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tbirdy said:
I mean just be honest with me , i took my post off right after I wrote it under your post:
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But here it is for you in private :

I can't believe this is coming from YOU.
I know why its coming from you but really I can't believe it IS really is coming from you.

What you saying is throwing science back like 30 years where indeed all people were thinking that all ED has psychological reasons. BECAUSE PSYCHOLOGY was THE NEW BIG THING, back then !

Todays year 2008 knowledge is that 80% of all ED is due to organic reasons.

Just enter the second half of my last sentence in google and educate yourself.

Give me a couple of days and I will rip apart every sentence in your post with modern studies, links to the best universitys and specialists for ED and Urology.

Why not tell the truth ? Penis Enlargement IS dangerous , it IS risky , people do get hurt.

You haven't met a single person yet who wasn't able to recover from ED ?

Make a visit to your own Forum injury section, I have like 20 guys on private messaging right now asking me for help because they end up with a lifeless penis after Penis Enlargement .



THEY DON'T HAVE NOCTURNAL ERECTIONS they fail these tests.

Are you saying in the night its their mind too wich doesn't allow the penis to fill up ?

My god , why ? all this ..just to promote some [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] sales and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] sales ?

Just so more " stupid rabbits " jump on this forum and a percentage of them will not educate and just go ahead and buy , blinded by YOUR absolutely UNIQUE gains ???

Can you sleep safely , knowing , that while your bank account goes up - other Penis EnlargementOPLES life are destroyed completely and forever ???

Is it worth it ???
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I mean comon , you DO know better, of course you do YOU ARE DLD you should know better than me that everything u said in that post is just bullshit to win back the credibility of your Penis Enlargement WORLD.

I mean you really don't give a fuck about those people , do you ? There are warning here and there , but admit it the advertisment for gains and the glitter in their eyes u put is 100 times bigger.


Is your way of thinking : If I don't rip off these fools , someone else will , so ok I rip em off ??? dayomn...

dld comon, I was looking up to you back in the days to , like everyone else , but this can't be serious now can it.

I mean its so obvious that you composed this post because people are digging deeper into what I say in my posts... its like a wise countermove but really why man I'm speechless...really its not right


you are a good person , you should take responsiobilty for your actions having the reputation wich u have...I mean , yeah sure , fuck the stupid masses but hey how they should ever wise up if intelligent people like you USE their intelligence for evil and scam eh ?

I realize its your forum , your toy of your life , i'm not fuckin it up for you or starting any wars...just want to know your honest opinion... has it all become so relative to you ...look at your last sentence

so much money to make....

You have no idea who I am or what I do. Your silly post on cellular growth and division was based on complete ignorance. Don't get an ego because you believe people are finally noticing you because you have gotten a response to you "sudden" involvement. I did not repost in the cell thread because your ignorance made it sickening and completely backwards. Someone who has a small amount of knowledge is much more dangerous than the man who has none. I never make a statement or opinion until I have exhausted my ability to understand what I am advising on. I have sacrificed more than you will ever know and I have contributed to a community for many years. You are a uneducated, envious fool. I am going to post this PM just to explore what your true motives are in this PM.

DLD>:(
 
PS: Next time you have a opinion, gripe or problem with me, be a man and post it publicly.
 
First all this PM actually WAS a post under your "Motivation, Belief, Dysfunction and Goals (my latest Blog)" thread. I took it off 5 minutes after I post it , because I realized - if its true what I am suspecting you off - I will get banned.


"You have no idea who I am or what I do."

I've been witnessing what you say and do on many different topics for 5 years, since I joined the Forum.

"Your silly post on cellular growth and division was based on complete ignorance."

It was based on science. Personal experience and things I've learned from YOU and others here on the Forum. Instead of saying I'm ignorant, go ahead and argument against it.


"Don't get an ego because you believe people are finally noticing you because you have gotten a response to you "sudden" involvement."

My sudden involvement ? You mean my sudden "more than average activity due to more time". Because I have been involved and making posts that Do help people and educate them since 5 years, since I joined here.

Ego ? Because of what ? This is YOUR playground, and if you and others will say : TBirdy - we don't appriciate your help nor do we need you here - I will instantly leave, I'm really surprised I'm not banned already.

"I did not repost in the cell thread because your ignorance made it sickening and completely backwards. Someone who has a small amount of knowledge is much more dangerous than the man who has none."

Stick to the facts. Comment me on what I said there.

"I never make a statement or opinion until I have exhausted my ability to understand what I am advising on."

Good ! Enter organic ED in google. Or ask a question ? How many men in the world have ED ? How big is the percentage of organic ED / psychological ED ?
Organic ED = 80 %. You say of 110 000 members not even ONE had/has or will have physiological damage - but its all menthal. Man , it CAN be menthal but its not in 80% of all cases.

"I have sacrificed more than you will ever know and I have contributed to a community for many years."

Thats exactly the reason why so many people love you and look up to you , and its also the same reason why you should take responsibility AND REALLY WARN EVERYONE about possible risks and only THEN advise them with your great knowledge on Penis Enlargement.

"You are a uneducated, envious fool. "

Comon. Everyone who can read and has read my posts will see several things:
My grammer is shit. English is my fourth language,
my tone of voice is sometimes offensive, but I'm sure as hell am NOT uneducated and not envious. Envious of WHAT could I be ?

"I am going to post this PM just to explore what your true motives are with this PM "


Man I can't believe you really post this public. What you achieve by this IS reveal YOUR OWN motives. And what these obviously are is: You changed. Money changed you like it has changed zillions before you.

Just look at this post : Motivation, Belief, Dysfunction and Goals (my latest Blog). The reason you post it is obviously because people were showing more and more attention AND listening to my theories and actual scientific facts.

To sum up everything I ever said here is : People you have one dick, don't gamble with it or risk it. Penis Enlargement is not a miracle where you can't ever hurt yourself. I did and thousands of others did too eventhough they followed every advise correctly, performed every technique correctly - they still end up with ED. Sometimes even with one single jelq session.

So you think to yourself: shit! if people start being carefull and quit stretching and clamping and squeezing how the hell am I supposed to sell my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] or other stuff ?

Lets use my reputation and credibility and make everything Tbirdy ever came up with look stupid, because If I say I had 110 000 members and none of them ever damaged themselves - everyone will believe me. people will continue to worship me AND buy my stuff.

You know what a really good counter move would have been ?
Take me in on the boat. Listen deeper to what I said. We both know the injury section SHOULD BE the most important Forum here. Thats a usual reply to any of my posts - people say EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS BEFORE STARTING Penis Enlargement. So if you would have been the bigger wiser man - you would have said : Shit he is right , I'm sorry folks I underestimated the risks of Penis Enlargement simply because I always was lucky not to damage myself organically. Go safe first and then try what I have to offer. You would have kept your reputation , Your sales, AND you could go and sleep without any thoughts troubeling you.

10 minutes pumping every other day is all that is needed to gain and remain with a healthy penis and none of the torture repertour techniques.


So as you see my true motive is and was , I wanted to hear from you : Yes Tbirdy I know what I wrote was bullshit I felt my Penis Enlargement Baby is attacked by you , and I did it just to make more money.

If you would have replied this to me , I would have gotten the fuck out of the main Forum again and return to booboos and bandaids (having lost the belief in mankind completely) and just stick to helping and educating the poor bastards who damaged themselves using your techniques without knowing what COULD happen to them.

By the way, respecting u and ur past - I did not insult you in anyway - I just showed a mirror to your face - reflecting your last action.

Its still not too late to be the bigger man and admit what is obvious to see for everyone anyways.
 
I still have. I totally depend on viagra for sex.
Without being on Viagra I can only produce a good erection once in a week.
I need to be fully regenerated and in top shape and even then its not 100 % hard

ON V - it its the same or even better than PRE Penis Enlargement (daily sex for hours) so its managable as in
No loss in quality of life. I don't mindfuck myself too because we all depend on water and sleep and food and stimulus and so on for erections so why bother about one less or more dependencys - aslong it dont hurt you.

I know the exact operation that I would need to have the same natural erection strength as I had before, but so far there is only one professor of ED in austrias biggest urology center who is able to guarantee permanent results with a new modified technique.

Instead of cutting veins (where they rechannel couple of month later through anastomosis - bridge veins) he goes and scleroses them at full length.

The amount of veins in the penis is limited - if you close them full length the bloodoutflow can't rechannel through bridges between superficial and deep veins or even bridges between arteries and veins, the ability of the penis to restrict the bloodoutflow is restored again and the ratio outflow / inflow is shifted towards inflow again. I'm young and healthy my arteries are perfect, nerves too I had everything checked and examined - its jsut that the blood flows out too quickly through this leak - unless I artificially shift the balance by usage of viagra.

I have a venous leak located on the left side, at the base of my penis.
This happened a couple of years ago after a jelq session. Resulting in this injury or a mild case of peyronies wich again is the same thing.


There is another surgery option where they cut out the scarred tunica part and insert a patch made of artificial tunica like tissue to restore the ability of the tunica to expand and restrict. Just like the "NESBID" Peyronies numberone treatment , only with a slight variation. Again this is very advanced and everything would have even more possible side effects.

So why gamble If I can fuck with 8x6 on viagra for the next 20 years till Im old and wrinkled anyways and will not care about sex most probably...

If I had an eye condition or wouldnt work on viagra - THEN the shit would hit the fan and I would have to consider these operation and if they fail end up with a penile implant - ultima ratio solution.

I'm happy it turned out the way it has - but damn I wish I had my healthy PRE Penis Enlargement dick back eventhough it was 6.3 x 5.2.

Nothing beats that natural throbbing vivid feeling of a spontanious erection wich all of us ED guys loose forever. Its somewhat simulatable on viagra but its not the same, viagra kinda numbs the dick too..wich is cool for performance but not so cool for feelings of intimacy, and the feeling of being able to perform as a man natural - so u see - I don't mindfuck around too much because of this - it would be a one way road to depression...
 
I like this forum specifically because of people's openess, but i can definately see how this can be detrimental when dealing with the all too eager and inexperienced Penis Enlargementers. When i approached Penis Enlargement i was very cautious and reasearched all I could, before I even found this forum. The openess within this forum can be a double edged sword at times, causing fresh Penis Enlargementers to injure themselves with advanced excersizes. However, most of the time, newbies are instructed to take it easy, at least for the beginning. I do not plan on using any of the more advanced and inherently more dangerous techniques, but feel that they should still be available for those that do. What tbirdy suggests with the warning section seems to be a good idea that can also help with potential legal issues (not familiar with how or if any legal trouble could come to DLD).

And tbirdy, if you have been here as long as you say you have you should know that DLD does not ban people unless they are disrupive uncontributing members which launch personal atacks which have nothing to do with a debate at hand.
 
TBirdy, seems as though both of you depend on it to be honest.

"The fastest and highest quality generic viagra (which I think is better than the real deal) is the link right here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]: Solid Viagra Source

I have been using them for a while and the service is great. Very discreet and they deliver a wonderful product."
 
I'm sorry you got hurt, but I've masturbated with greater force than I've ever Jelqed.

If you consider all the activities that you could do to yourself or the things that you could do that have the potential to hurt you other than simply jelqing; I think blaming an injury on a mild exercise and intuit that it's that way for all or most folks is not logical.

There are risks in everything Penis Enlargement included so I don't think anyone is dumb enough to pull on their wanker and not be a bit concerned to be careful so as not to hurt themselves.
Nor have I ever read anyone saying Penis Enlargement is safe with no regard to safety.

Heck when I run a jackhammer, which is repetitive it's more dangerous than that.

Just because people do get hurt I find it odd that you have attacked DLD the way you did. Your PM was insulting and called into questions his motives.

I'm sorry but even if your beef is legitimate since when did you become able to discern someones motives or to judge a persons character just by being on a site for 5 years?

Did you ever hear of giving someone the benefit of the doubt? Alot of stupid, needless arguments could be avoided if we stopped trying to win an argument for whatever reason, stopped judging people and their motives before giving them the opportunity to speak for themselves and simply give them the benefit of the doubt and treat them with respect.

I've been guilty of this too btw so I'm simply trying to be helpful.

anth
 
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Hey tbirdy just to let you know i had ed at 26 yrs old thats how i found this place to begin with. The exercises here brought my penis back to life and gave me hope for the future. If you can't get an erection don't blame it on dld or the exercises blame it on yourself. You must of done something terribly wrong along the way. I'm proof pe can cure ed for good. I've never had erections so firm and a penis so healthy as i have today. This stuff undoubtly works!!!
 
Wowwww,

Tbirdy everything in life must be well fought before doing it.
Im only 25 years old and after all the girls, jobs, cars(car aciddents), diseases, Ftraumas, and family problems i learn one thing for life!!! MODERATION IS ALL!!
Right now i am very apreensive in everything i do in life, i have very caution with my health because of all the problems i had from WANTING ALL IN ONE DAY! I CANT LIVE ALL MY LIVE IN ONE DAY AND ACHIEVE ALL MY GOALS IN ONE DAY! ITS IMPOSSIBLE!
I can give you an example! BODYBUILDING!! My god i was training harder, lift 160 kgs my self in spino, do a lot of cardiofitness, martialarts and finaly had time to my girl, family and friends!! I was getting bigger very fast and everyone was telling me that. One day while i was in the gym practsing i felt a hard pain in my chest!! My god i almost had a Hart attack, and never be good again, even today when i do to much sport i feel strange and inconfident in my hart, it make me a big TRAUMA, and after of two years i learn the answer is in: MODERATION!!
Do you think i keep all day pushing my cock harder and jelquing like a maniac?
I only work Penis Enlargement for three days a week when isnt less, and im very happy with my gains, VERY HAPPY. No i do not trust everyone and money is making a lot of souls geting lost forever but you have to adapt your self and eat only 50% of the cake.
Respect your body, respect your self.
:)
 
Good luck, T bird. I'm sorry you injured yourself. I didn't read your entire post, but do you jelq at all now? Does kegeling help? It certainly is not something that would cause injury--at least if it's done properly.

To separate the psychological from the physical is a tough route to take. They are so closely connected. Most scientific studies are questionable. That's the nature of science. In fact, we often pursue P.E. based on anecdote. I never belonged to a forum when I did my toughest routines and made my biggest gains, but I did begin slowly and carefully and eased into it.

I think of P.E. as an art. I do know that it gave me my erections back and still does to this day so long as I keep up with it. I use Viagra to induce proper engorgement for a workout and once in a while to make sure I'm ready for sex. But I tend to agree with DLD that at least for me, so much of my sexual wiring and response is in my head.

It's nice to know I don't need Viagra to get and keep it up. But I'm still glad it's there.

Do you work out? Do you have any other physical conditions? Could they be a factor in your E.D.?

I'm not discounting the M.D.'s, but my urologist, who is very competent, knows shit about E.D.

I sure am glad they came up with Viagra (and company). It kept me sexually active until I found P.E.

Good luck. I hope you reach a point where you are sexually o.k without the big V.
 
Guys,
in order to build any type of sensible opinion you can't judge me by this one post. Click my name and read through some of my posts - THEN come back and repeat whatever you accused me off.

I'm not after anything but helping the people with ED.

I have no problems in life whatsoever , I don't have any "conditions" but a medium ED wich as I said is also nothing I cry about - its managable.

This Beef if you want to call it this way IS A JOKE to me - understand.

DLD already depends on Viagra exactly like I do , and I know 10 years from now he will reading , re-reading ALL of my posts because there is valuable information in them to cure ED. You guys will do the same and I will welcome you AND help you if u ask me for help , same for DLD.


The intention behind my pm to dld AGAIN ! : was to question his beliefs and his single last action. It shocked and dissapointed me to say the least.

Again I only stand up for those guys with ED and what is better than trying to cure ED as a consequence of Penis Enlargement ?


PREVENTION !!!! Educate yourselfs, compare THEN come here and argument with me if you like, IF you want to be serious.

I don't hate DLD nor do I say anything against him - I just called him out on his single last action wich to me is obviously an act of "corruption because of money".

If he wouldn't mislead people BUT warn them EDUCATE them FIRST so they KNOW THE RISKS for real - I would not say a thing in the first place.

Example. A weapon is a good thing - it can be used for protection by law enforcement. You need to learn how to shoot it and NOT to aim it at your friends.

Would you give a weapon to a child ? or an aboriginee who never seen one ?
NO you wouldn't !

Pe is the same, why you guys WANT to make it seem its so harmless. Nothing in life is harmless and yes an idiot will damage himself with everything , and an uninformed person who is wise on different areas will too , and especially young guys.

I just feel sorry for them , they ruin their life being 18 - 22 and then fall in depression trying to recover.... and this is why I'm for prevention

if a young guy KNEW he could get more pussy by perfecting his GAME skills , he would never try Penis Enlargement in the first place and NOT risk any injury, understand ??? There are different solutions to the same approach and the most dangerous one is not always the best one.

Last but not least :

Boo Boo's and Band-Aids
Issues on Penis Enlargement Injuries and Remedies, Peyronies/Bent Penis, Premature Ejaculation & Impotence
Threads: 581, Posts: 4,174


THATS ALL I NEED TO SAY. ADD TO THIS THUNDERS, and OTHER FORUMS , ADD TO THIS ALL THE GUYS WHO ARE TO ASHAMED TO POST (they ask by PM) ADD TO THIS THOSE GUYS WHO END UP WITH ED AND CAN'T RELATE THIS TO Penis Enlargement LATER BECAUSE THEY LEFT THE FORUM PRE-GAINS and develope the ED LATER.

ADD TO THAT YOURSELVES TOO in a couple of years - there are no long term studies on Penis Enlargement the DLD way, but sure as hell the scar tissues are bulding up your venous systems are getting overstressed your tunicas are getting thinner and YOU WILL PAY THE PRICE for ignorance where as other will not...

Really this whole thing is a joke and makes no sense , you guys just arguement against yourself if you add you opinion without even knowing what I contributed to the Forum...

To others who speak up for me , and pm me , thank you but really save your breath.

Ask yourself one question EVERYBODY.


WHAT IS MY PROFIT IN ALL OF THIS AND WHAT IS DLD'S ?

ONE GETS MORE MONEY OR LESS MONEY AND THE OTHER is just trying to help injured people and prevent further injury of others....

thats most simple way of seeing THE REAL MOTIVES - ask yourself what is the profit for everyone involved !!!

Peace out ....
 
t birdy i fucked up my dick doing this shit and i can relate to you , i did not get ED yet BUT one thing i learned is you cant alter your body withougth doing damage

like you said just look at the boo boo section . BIG FUCKEN PROBLEM'S FROM THIS Penis Enlargement CRAP
 
tbirdy;292064 said:
Guys,
in order to build any type of sensible opinion you can't judge me by this one post. Click my name and read through some of my posts - THEN come back and repeat whatever you accused me off.

I'm not after anything but helping the people with ED.

I have no problems in life whatsoever , I don't have any "conditions" but a medium ED wich as I said is also nothing I cry about - its managable.

This Beef if you want to call it this way IS A JOKE to me - understand.

DLD already depends on Viagra exactly like I do , and I know 10 years from now he will reading , re-reading ALL of my posts because there is valuable information in them to cure ED. You guys will do the same and I will welcome you AND help you if u ask me for help , same for DLD.


The intention behind my pm to dld AGAIN ! : was to question his beliefs and his single last action. It shocked and dissapointed me to say the least.

Again I only stand up for those guys with ED and what is better than trying to cure ED as a consequence of Penis Enlargement ?


PREVENTION !!!! Educate yourselfs, compare THEN come here and argument with me if you like, IF you want to be serious.

I don't hate DLD nor do I say anything against him - I just called him out on his single last action wich to me is obviously an act of "corruption because of money".

If he wouldn't mislead people BUT warn them EDUCATE them FIRST so they KNOW THE RISKS for real - I would not say a thing in the first place.

Example. A weapon is a good thing - it can be used for protection by law enforcement. You need to learn how to shoot it and NOT to aim it at your friends.

Would you give a weapon to a child ? or an aboriginee who never seen one ?
NO you wouldn't !

Pe is the same, why you guys WANT to make it seem its so harmless. Nothing in life is harmless and yes an idiot will damage himself with everything , and an uninformed person who is wise on different areas will too , and especially young guys.

I just feel sorry for them , they ruin their life being 18 - 22 and then fall in depression trying to recover.... and this is why I'm for prevention

if a young guy KNEW he could get more pussy by perfecting his GAME skills , he would never try Penis Enlargement in the first place and NOT risk any injury, understand ??? There are different solutions to the same approach and the most dangerous one is not always the best one.

Last but not least :

Boo Boo's and Band-Aids
Issues on Penis Enlargement Injuries and Remedies, Peyronies/Bent Penis, Premature Ejaculation & Impotence
Threads: 581, Posts: 4,174


THATS ALL I NEED TO SAY. ADD TO THIS THUNDERS, and OTHER FORUMS , ADD TO THIS ALL THE GUYS WHO ARE TO ASHAMED TO POST (they ask by PM) ADD TO THIS THOSE GUYS WHO END UP WITH ED AND CAN'T RELATE THIS TO Penis Enlargement LATER BECAUSE THEY LEFT THE FORUM PRE-GAINS and develope the ED LATER.

ADD TO THAT YOURSELVES TOO in a couple of years - there are no long term studies on Penis Enlargement the DLD way, but sure as hell the scar tissues are bulding up your venous systems are getting overstressed your tunicas are getting thinner and YOU WILL PAY THE PRICE for ignorance where as other will not...

Really this whole thing is a joke and makes no sense , you guys just arguement against yourself if you add you opinion without even knowing what I contributed to the Forum...

To others who speak up for me , and pm me , thank you but really save your breath.

Ask yourself one question EVERYBODY.


WHAT IS MY PROFIT IN ALL OF THIS AND WHAT IS DLD'S ?

ONE GETS MORE MONEY OR LESS MONEY AND THE OTHER is just trying to help injured people and prevent further injury of others....

thats most simple way of seeing THE REAL MOTIVES - ask yourself what is the profit for everyone involved !!!

Peace out ....


what do you want to hear that you can get hurt from pe? well its true you can if you perform it wrong or push to far or try advanced routines when just starting off. you know what you can also hurt yourself when riding a bike so should they stop selling them? what is your point here ? that pe can be dangerous? if so its obvious that it can be, and its your fault you hurt yourself. you can hurt yourself in all aspects in life doing just about anything. dld isn't misleading anyone and for you to say so it sad. noone forced you to pe and hurt yourself. you accomplished that on your own.
 
Your tunica actually becomes thicker from Penis Enlargement, that's one reason why gains become more difficult over time. Also there was no scar tissue build up in the people on these Penis Enlargement boards who got themselves checked out.
 
i think we need to get this Penis Enlargement thing into a magnified perspective -

Penis Enlargement is a movement and we're on the crest of the wave. despite some of the literature strewn across the net binding Arab's to the source of penis enlargement and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words], this form of bodily exercise is in stage one of its evolution; it's new to the men of this world.

hand in hand with something that is brand new comes the ineludible trail and error phase. like it or not we are the gunnine pigs, the lab rats, the front-line of the expedition; and i'm sure nigh-on everybody who visits a Penis Enlargement site before they begin their adventure into this lifestyle realizes this, hence the million and one newbie's asking wearily if Penis Enlargement will break their dick.

we're adults here and should act accordingly(which is rich coming from me i know), but my point is that we willing allow this Penis Enlargement obsession into our lives and we are in total control of what we do with it thereafter.

so what advice, forewarnings, information should be clubbed into the mindset of a newbie?

READ and absorb the information at one's disposal here or at any other Penis Enlargement site.
ask questions when you are unsure or in need of help.
and last but by no means least, listen to your penis/body until you fully understand how it is communicating what is happening before, during, after a workout.

when i Penis Enlargement its MY hand on MY dick with the knowledge of the community here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] in my head.

we must be honest with ourselves and to each other if we really want to educate.

peace.


keep pushing
 
obviously if a couple people injure themselves doing Penis Enlargement it dont mean everybody else will. You cant discredit this shit just cuz of that. I don't really know what the deal so.
 
Ok, I'll chime in on this. T-birdy is not "blaming" Penis Enlargement for his ED. He's simply stating that his problem occurred while he was attempting to enlarge his penis. The sensible person realizes that Penis Enlargement has the potential to be dangerous. Lifting weights can be dangerous too, as I have a torn pec. major to prove that possibility to be quite real. I've been here for 5 years as well, and I have to say that there is a trend in the types of responses that DLD gives to these sorts of posts. I don't understand why he responds with "you don't know what I've sacrificed and what I've had to go through", and ultimately takes to attacking the credibility of the person. This is not an instance of him being "called out" about his pictures or any other such nonsense. This is a long standing member PMing him, which makes this a PRIVATE matter, and now it's public. I have to question the motivation behind such behavior. It's unnecessary and I think it makes DLD look childish and immature.

T-birdy, You keep posting what you know and keep helping others. In the end that's all we can do is try to help, just like DLD has done in the past. In my personal explorations of Penis Enlargement I've found a better way for ME to make progress and I shared it with ALL of the members here and I hope that there are others that can grow from it as well. In many respects there is not just one way to skin a cat, and I think that is what makes the world a great place as we're all a little bit different.
 
Tbirdy,

Like others have said I'm sorry you injuried yourself bad enough to get ED. But don't smash DLD and his thought on Penis Enlargement for your problems or anyone elses. Pe might not have even caused your leak, maybe it was genetics.

I myself was a big believer in intensity at one time, the harder the better, that is what I thought at one time. However I no longer practice this. I take Penis Enlargement with the less is more mind set.

I have pumped at over 20hg, for months on end, with long durations in the pump. I've squezzed my dick so hard I had veins pop on me. I've clamped so hard that I had a black circle around my dick where the clamp was, this black circle lasted at least a week or more. But I have never had a problem getting an erection, maybe after a hardcore session, but never the next day. Even with my dick bruised and all. So everybody is different, I am not the rule, and you are not the rule. We just have had different long term experiences with Penis Enlargement.

I like that you preach safety, which I do myself, it is the most important part of any activity, that could cause damage, if its playing ball, Penis Enlargementing, drinking, cutting baseboards for you house, driving a car, whatever, safety is number 1.

From everything I've done to my dick in the past 5 years, I cannot see how Penis Enlargement alone, can fuck up your dick for life? Again I am speaking from my experience, and this is what I know.
 
Very True CrazyEd

Injuries are a potential in anything we do. If you dont want to risk them dont mess with Penis Enlargement. Fair enough. If you do get hurt just admit it was because you were not listening to the vets (or your body) and eventually something had to give.

Penis Enlargement has given so many people so much, and DLD and many others are a part of this.
 
As it's been said many times, anyone with sense realizes that there is a potential for great harm when engaging in P.E.

It is about as risk free as a weight lifting session at the gym.

Some types of P.E are more dangerous than others ofcourse. Hanging for instance, can be extremely dangerous if not done correctly.

Pumping can also be dangerous if done overzealously at too high a pressure.

Then, there's clamping....

Yet, many of us still ignore these risks and plunge head on into the World of Penis Enlargement.

Why?

Because it freaking WORKS! :cool:

We all wanted larger penises, otherwise we would not be here, and Penis Enlargement provides the means of achieving it.

Sure there's surgery, but not all of us have thousands of dollars to drop on penile enlargement surgery, and most of us that have the wealth, still would never subject our one and only penis to the risks of going under a surgeon's knife.

Especially with the lackluster results that penis enlargement surgery provides.

Penis Enlargement can do it far better, and far safer! All it takes is our time and effort..

But, even with our full attention to safety, most of us injure ourselves at some point during Penis Enlargement.

We all think we can speed up the process if we push our penises harder and harder, but all we do is increase our chances of getting an injury.

And not everyone has the same threshold when it comes to injuries. Some guys can hang 30lbs on their penis for 30 minutes without serious injury, while others have their dicks turn black and blue after doing a mild jelquing session.

So yes, Penis Enlargement can be dangerous in and of itself, but often the most dangerous factor is our INABILITY TO REALIZE OUR OWN LIMITATIONS.

~Demolition Man​
 
this thread exhausted me, i'm going to just sa a couple of things. one, i don't get why people get injured and then blame the site and DLD. it is outlined in the routines and emphasized over and over again on this forum to warm up and down before and after every pe session. people have admitted that they don't warm up and then suddenly their pissing blood or they can't get up all the way because the tissue is ripped. i have been doin this since i was 17 and i ALWAYS warm up and down before every Penis Enlargement session and i never had those issues, as well as most of the big gainers here on this forum and many others. including DLD.
and yes, ED is also cause by psychological issues, i have had problems with it both mentally and physically. i find that Penis Enlargement helps out with that and therapy doesn't hurt. why not double up and get rid of the problem right? so i agree with people on that one.

as for DLD's intentions? i have a feeling that this guy is genuine. i have been in another site before and THAT guy i think...though he was sharing knowledge he wasn't as open as to say how he gained and kept everything secret. i noticed that all the innovations and methods are posted HERE on the FREE forum, and then later you pay for the routine that might be most affective for you. but there is nothing stopping someone from coming onto this site and getting ideas about what to do and making their own routine. people CHOOSE on their own free will to go and pay for those routines to give them a possible edge. it's true that DLD would say "go and sign up for membership", who would blame him? the guy did a lot of research and why shouldn't he benifit from it if a grown man opts for buying the routines. DLD also has his screen name up there so you can reach him, just to shoot the shit and or ask him for Penis Enlargement advice. i personally have him on my buddy list and i have talked with him in the past and shit, might talk with him again soon. the guy makes himself readily available.

and we all know about what happened with him and jen, and that right there is a sacrifice that i don't think most men would make, it takes a lot of courage to go ahead and continue in what you believe in at any cost. my father told me "stick with your path zack, those who are meant to be in your life with stick by you and walk that path with you." DLD stuck to his path, and continues doing so.

we are all men, and we are far from...FAR FROM fools. it was said that the paying members were scammed, i don't think i was scammed. i made an investment, and i don't regret it, and i'd fucking do it again too. if you don't believe in DLD then back off and or go find another site. or just stick to the free forums and find your own routine, do whatever it takes, but don't put the blame on other people or another source for your own problems. you think his intentions are unpure? then say to hell with DLD and move on.

all i know is that i'm glad i joined this forum when it was one unit and was about helping guys out. before it seemed to become a drama filled forum with guys going nuts and bitching and moaning. if i were a newbie or a long time watcher of the site, i would be very afraid to join the forum, and or the site.
 
Listen to your body, guys--and there is much less chance of hurting yourself. For me it was the fowfers--lazy ass stretches. I was trying to pull my dick up my backbone--visions of grandeur--and I hurt myself--sooooo, I'm real careful with that stretch. In fact, I rarely try it anymore. It just ain't worth it. Always err on the side of caution, I say.
 
Wow, I'm really surprised that all of the responses to T-birdy have been "don't blame anyone else, blame yourself". I've read his posts 2-3 times through, and I've read some of his other posts in the injury section and the guy is just attempting to make a point. It'd be different if the guy hurt himself after a 2-3 hour clamp session, but he did it jelqing. That's the easiest thing in Penis Enlargement to learn, and maybe he was doing it wrong and maybe he did everything correctly. There's no blaming going on, it seems to me that he wants DLD to acknowledge that Penis Enlargement is dangerous and can cause such a HUGE problem and so far DLD has balked at his claims and has responded back with "it's all mental" and now he's gone as far as to try to publicly embarrass and belittle a long standing member.
 
Penis Enlargement is dangerous, and that's why it's said that you need to warm up and know your body limits. i think dld as well as other members say that all the time, i know i preach it to whoever comes to me for help. other members do the same. i think dld tells people to warm up and warm down and does say it's dangerous if you don't know how much your dick can handle. that's why i say that he shouldn't blame everyone else and only himself, and why everyone else is saying it too
 
SAMZ, You're missing the bigger problem. DLD took a private matter and has made it a public issue. That's the problem that I have with this WHOLE thread. There was no open forum attack on DLD, but there has been an open forum attack on T-birdy instigated by DLD.
 
there are tons of attacks on DLD, i figure a man can only take so much. but i'm not lookin to beef with you or anyone.

also didn't he say that he made the same post or somethin on a public thread? i may be wrong
 
samzman;292179 said:
there are tons of attacks on DLD, i figure a man can only take so much. but i'm not lookin to beef with you or anyone.

also didn't he say that he made the same post or somethin on a public thread? i may be wrong

ya he did post it publically tbirdy even admitted it.
 
Why did I ever waste so much time, money and effort towards something that's will leave me limp for life... P.E. is too risky for my own health and I retire
 
millionman;292154 said:
Wow, I'm really surprised that all of the responses to T-birdy have been "don't blame anyone else, blame yourself". I've read his posts 2-3 times through, and I've read some of his other posts in the injury section and the guy is just attempting to make a point. It'd be different if the guy hurt himself after a 2-3 hour clamp session, but he did it jelqing. That's the easiest thing in Penis Enlargement to learn, and maybe he was doing it wrong and maybe he did everything correctly. There's no blaming going on, it seems to me that he wants DLD to acknowledge that Penis Enlargement is dangerous and can cause such a HUGE problem and so far DLD has balked at his claims and has responded back with "it's all mental" and now he's gone as far as to try to publicly embarrass and belittle a long standing member.

i know this thread is gonna probably go on for a while...and i read it earlier and already 20 more people chimed in...i just wanted to say that i agree with millionman...tbirdy didn't say noone should do pe...he didn't blame anybody...i believe he just want the equal amount of attention to be spent on the risk as it is on the benefits...he has been doing pe for a while...and noone can say he did anything wrong or he just overdid it...people need to wake up and realize this has a danger like anything else in life....someone taking a certain drug for the first time can kill them while the next man gets high as hell....someone can take a hit in football and break his neck and the next man take the same exact hit...and jumps right back up...all tbirdy was saying is he want it to be known how dangerous this could be...even for the vets....he has the right to speak his mind and he didn't sound preachy to me at all...and as for making it a public issue...well we see what that cause....dld and tbirdy are two mature adults and i'm sure they can resolve an issue they may have...i just thank dld...for the knowledge that he has provided and if i happen to do something to my body while using that knowledge..the only person to be blamed will be me...but i don't think a lot of new guys understand the risk...we just tell them be careful...don't over do it..go easy at first...but in reality it can be just as dangerous in any phase...i hope everyone hear practice healthy pe...and hope no serious injury occurs to anyone..respect
 
twins172_up--Cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health and they give a warning on every package sold. The warning is general without giving you every single detail of the dangers. Driving a car is dangerous and when you purchase a vehicle from a Car dealer the sales person don't give you every detail of the dangers of operating a vehicle before driving off of their car lot. Walking the streets in any part of the world is dangerous and the City Council don't give you all the details of the dangers when you purchase or rent housing in their area. That's why there is insurance in place to cover the dangers of these things when it goes wrong... in case shit happens!!!

You guys are really taking this way too personal. DLD simply exposed tbirdy for acting like a reformed smoker and wanting everyone to quit and not let the tobacco companies profit from it anymore.

Use your own judgement and let your feet do the talking for you.
 
this much is true in all cases Threak...i just don't want anyone jumping all over another member because they had choice words with dld...i've been here for a long time...and it get real old everyone coming out the wood work to gang up on one person because they feel like they have to come to dld rescue...dld is a big boy and can handle themselves....you are also right Threak...we take a risk by just walking out our door in the morning...but i feel if people were more informed on the risks..we wouldn't have countless threads after someone injure themselves complaining about it...but then again i can be wrong...anyway..i hope everyone stays healthy
 
twins172_up;292200 said:
this much is true in all cases Threak...i just don't want anyone jumping all over another member because they had choice words with dld...i've been here for a long time...and it get real old everyone coming out the wood work to gang up on one person because they feel like they have to come to dld rescue...dld is a big boy and can handle themselves....you are also right Threak...we take a risk by just walking out our door in the morning...but i feel if people were more informed on the risks..we wouldn't have countless threads after someone injure themselves complaining about it...but then again i can be wrong...anyway..i hope everyone stays healthy

you saying basically as much as we promote benifits of pe same energy in warning about the negatives and risks?
 
there should be a list of things to do posted up for EASY access, because it's out there, in every gainers routine there is warm up and warm down. so lets just post up a post right at the top of the Penis Enlargement thing saying
"EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RULES" or some shit, idk..that way this argument is moot.
 
twins172_up;292200 said:
this much is true in all cases Threak...i just don't want anyone jumping all over another member because they had choice words with dld...i've been here for a long time...and it get real old everyone coming out the wood work to gang up on one person because they feel like they have to come to dld rescue...dld is a big boy and can handle themselves....you are also right Threak...we take a risk by just walking out our door in the morning...but i feel if people were more informed on the risks..we wouldn't have countless threads after someone injure themselves complaining about it...but then again i can be wrong...anyway..i hope everyone stays healthy

tbirdy attacked dld and i am defending pe in general as it is basically do at your own risk. he blamed dld and in reality is his own fault, not dld just because this is his site. tbirdy didnt perform the exercises properly and therefore hurt himself. i feel bad for himself but hes to blame. he said pe doesnt cure ed when in actuallity it does. it has for me, and i haven't donated or bought a single thing from this site. tbirdy claimed money was dlds motivation to let people get hurt and make $$$ of them. its simply not true. tbirdy either did advanced routines to quickly or performed them very wrong to be in his situation. the % of people who get hurt here permenately has to less then 5 %.
 
Just a quick addition: Though the "80% of ED is organic" statisitc is basically accurate, the vast majority of this is caused by blood pressure and other cardiovascular issues, not internal damage to the penis. I was unable to find the journal article, but I actually read something about his long ago and it suggested that 'traumatic injury' and other issues directly relating to the penile tissue accounted for less than 5% of ED cases.

That being said, I don't have a particular side in this. I believe Penis Enlargement can be dangerous because this isn't some well-tested and researched practice. Penis Enlargement is practiced individually by huge assortment of guys who primarily communicate over the internet, where bullshit and miscommunication are unfortunately the dominant mode of operation.

Plus, and I hate to be crass, but the fact is a lot of guys on these forums and others aren't too bright, are impatient, don't follow instructions or understand biology, safety, etc, and are prone to do things in a way that will end up hurting them, no matter how much good information is out there.

The limited commentary from the members of the medical community that have ever looked at Penis Enlargement is mixed, but mostly negative, often suggesting that scar tissue and poor tissue health could be caused by some Penis Enlargement practices. In spite of that, men put their dicks through far more traumatic shit than jelqing all the time and don't suffer from ED, and there's a wealth of anecdotal evidence that suggests that Penis Enlargement is safe for most.

Nobody can ever say with 100% authority that Penis Enlargement is 100% safe for 100% of the guys that practice it -- but, I think we can say that if done carefully and properly, then it doesn't pose a huge health risk.

Also, I think that it's more than possible to injure yourself jelqing. Duration, intensity, natural tissue resistance and vascular health, ect, are all variables that could lead one guy to get hurt while another has no trouble with the exercise. There's no agreed upon exact definition of jelqing, so it's pretty naive to say that it can't possible lead to injury.
 
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My post stands on ED. I go by my experience and I have dealt with thousands of men. There is not ONE man I have ever helped with this issue that did not recover. That is my experience.

This post stands also. As was said, he was going to post this anyway.

DLD
 
@ REBER 187

hand in hand with something that is brand new comes the ineludible trail and error phase. like it or not we are the gunnine pigs, the lab rats, the front-line of the expedition; and i'm sure nigh-on everybody who visits a Penis Enlargement site before they begin their adventure into this lifestyle realizes this, hence the million and one newbie's asking wearily if Penis Enlargement will break their dick.
we're adults here and should act accordingly(which is rich coming from me i know), but my point is that we willing allow this Penis Enlargement obsession into our lives and we are in total control of what we do with it thereafter.
so what advice, forewarnings, information should be clubbed into the mindset of a newbie?
READ and absorb the information at one's disposal here or at any other Penis Enlargement site.
ask questions when you are unsure or in need of help.
and last but by no means least, listen to your penis/body until you fully understand how it is communicating what is happening before, during, after a workout.

YES ! Amen !


@ ITHIEL

obviously if a couple people injure themselves doing Penis Enlargement it dont mean everybody else will. You cant discredit this shit just cuz of that. I don't really know what the deal so.

You don't get the point ! Let me turn around your own words for you to see :

Obviously if most people don't injure themselves in the shortterm, while few others DO , it doesn't mean they will get out of Penis Enlargement with a healthy penis in the longterm. Besides no one is discrediting anything.


@ MILLIONMAN

T-birdy is not "blaming" Penis Enlargement for his ED. He's simply stating that his problem occurred while he was attempting to enlarge his penis. The sensible person realizes that Penis Enlargement has the potential to be dangerous. Lifting weights can be dangerous too, as I have a torn pec. major to prove that possibility to be quite real. I've been here for 5 years as well, and I have to say that there is a trend in the types of responses that DLD gives to these sorts of posts. I don't understand why he responds with "you don't know what I've sacrificed and what I've had to go through", and ultimately takes to attacking the credibility of the person. This is not an instance of him being "called out" about his pictures or any other such nonsense. This is a long standing member PMing him, which makes this a PRIVATE matter, and now it's public. I have to question the motivation behind such behavior. It's unnecessary and I think it makes DLD look childish and immature.

Yes ! Thankyou! You hit the nail on the head. Thankyou for your sharp mind and your ability to say all there is needed to say in a few simple sentences, whereas I always wind up writing epic storys in order to attempt the same, that just tires peoples eyes mostly ;)


@ CRAZYED27

Tbirdy,

Like others have said I'm sorry you injuried yourself bad enough to get ED. But don't smash DLD and his thought on Penis Enlargement for your problems or anyone elses. Pe might not have even caused your leak, maybe it was genetics.

I don't have anything about myself that I consider as problematic for myself.
I don't bash DLD as a whole Person - I critisize his single last action, for obvious reasons. Something I haven't seen from him EVER in 5 years here.
To me a person is always the SUM of all his deeds and actions. So what if he obviously fucked up on this "single last" action. No one is perfect and he could still chime in anytime , keep his face, and admit he just had a bad day.


@ AIRSHY and DEMOLITION_MAN

Injuries are a potential in anything we do. If you dont want to risk them dont mess with Penis Enlargement. Fair enough. If you do get hurt just admit it was because you were not listening to the vets (or your body) and eventually something had to give. Penis Enlargement has given so many people so much, and DLD and many others are a part of this. As it's been said many times, anyone with sense realizes that there is a potential for great harm when engaging in P.E.
Yet, many of us still ignore these risks and plunge head on into the World of Penis Enlargement. Why? Because it freaking WORKS! But, even with our full attention to safety, most of us injure ourselves at some point during Penis Enlargement. So yes, Penis Enlargement can be dangerous in and of itself, but often the most dangerous factor is our INABILITY TO REALIZE OUR OWN LIMITATIONS.

Yes ! I agree with everything you say. Especially the last sentence "THE INABILITY TO REALIZE OUR OWN LIMITATIONS"

Throw in the mix: Most guys who join here are A) VERY YOUNG B) ARE INSECURE ABOUT THEIR Penis EnlargementNIS SIZE C) BEING YOUNG AND INSECURE AND UNEXPenis EnlargementRIENCED IN LIFE IN GENERALL THEY ARE ---> D) DESPenis EnlargementRATE FOR A QUICK SOLUTION ! THEY---> E) ENDULGE IN Penis Enlargement AND COMPLETELY OVERSEE THE SMALL WARNINGS HERE AND THERE. THIS IS WHY F) WE, THE VETERANS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO WISE THEM UP AND IF NESSESSARY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT Penis Enlargement IS NOT THE SINGLE SOLUTION FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED PROBLEMS AND NEEDS OF THE YOUNGSTERS. GETTING A NEW MINDSET, UPPING THE DATING GAME SKILLS AND CHANGING THE GIRLFIREND WILL LEAD TO THE SAME HAPPINESS IN MOST CASES ! ESPenis EnlargementCIALLY BECAUSE ALL THE INFO HERE IS FREE AND EASILY ACCESSABLE THE WARNINGS AND THE EXACT REASONS FOR THE WARNINGS SHOULD BE TRIPLE THE SIZE AND TRIPLE THE IMPORTANCE OF ANY ADVERTISMENT OR PROGRAMM OR Penis Enlargement-TECHNIQUE !


@SAMZMAN

I'm sorry you completely missed the point.
The love you have for DLD is shared by all of us, and the feeling that he is genuine too ! Lets make sure it STAYS THAT WAY.


@ goinfor11x7 AGREED 100%


@ MILLIONMAN

Wow, I'm really surprised that all of the responses to T-birdy have been "don't blame anyone else, blame yourself". I've read his posts 2-3 times through, and I've read some of his other posts in the injury section and the guy is just attempting to make a point. It'd be different if the guy hurt himself after a 2-3 hour clamp session, but he did it jelqing. That's the easiest thing in Penis Enlargement to learn, and maybe he was doing it wrong and maybe he did everything correctly. There's no blaming going on, it seems to me that he wants DLD to acknowledge that Penis Enlargement is dangerous and can cause such a HUGE problem and so far DLD has balked at his claims and has responded back with "it's all mental" and now he's gone as far as to try to publicly embarrass and belittle a long standing member.

Thank you for understanding. There is NO BLAMING going on from TBIRDY to/ON DLD for TBIRDYs PROBLEMS (tbirdy don't have any problems right now) ---> BUT FROM TBIRDY TO DLD FOR NOT HAVING THE RESPONSIBILITY HE SHOULD HAVE BEING THE OWNER , CREATOR OF THIS SITE AND THE LEADER OF THIS PACK. I EXPenis EnlargementCT THE BEST (INTENTIONS) FROM HIM AND NOTHING LESS.


AGAIN @ MILLIONMAN

SAMZ, You're missing the bigger problem. DLD took a private matter and has made it a public issue. That's the problem that I have with this WHOLE thread. There was no open forum attack on DLD, but there has been an open forum attack on T-birdy instigated by DLD.

Exactly ! This is what happened : I wrote a rather epic reply on the "Cell growth and a video" thread. As an (inofficial but obvious) response to this DLD wrote his "Motivation, Belief, Dysfunction and Goals (my latest Blog)"

As a response to THIS , I wrote the same thing I wrote in the PM TO DLD, as a post/reply undernieth his thread. I copied the whole thing and took it off 5 minutes later to send it to him in private. The reason for my action was because I realized several things. I don't want to start any open wars/beefs. I have to respect DLD for what he was and is and keep it private. Most of all : THIS IS NOT MY FORUM - Its his Baby , okay. Who am I to mess with the owner of something. Last but not least the fear of getting banned.
You can imagine I was surprised that he made this public. Thats like shooting once own leg , judging from the responses here - its all so clearly isn't it ?



@ Penis EnlargementPenis Enlargement

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Originally Posted by samzman View Post
there are tons of attacks on DLD, i figure a man can only take so much. but i'm not lookin to beef with you or anyone.

also didn't he say that he made the same post or somethin on a public thread? i may be wrong
ya he did post it publically tbirdy even admitted it.


Correct Penis EnlargementPenis Enlargement , but same as above . I did post it public for 5 minutes !!! then re-edit it, copied and send to dld by PM !



@twins172_up

i know this thread is gonna probably go on for a while...and i read it earlier and already 20 more people chimed in...i just wanted to say that i agree with millionman...tbirdy didn't say noone should do pe...he didn't blame anybody...i believe he just want the equal amount of attention to be spent on the risk as it is on the benefits...he has been doing pe for a while...and noone can say he did anything wrong or he just overdid it...people need to wake up and realize this has a danger like anything else in life....someone taking a certain drug for the first time can kill them while the next man gets high as hell....someone can take a hit in football and break his neck and the next man take the same exact hit...and jumps right back up...all tbirdy was saying is he want it to be known how dangerous this could be...even for the vets....he has the right to speak his mind and he didn't sound preachy to me at all...and as for making it a public issue...well we see what that cause....dld and tbirdy are two mature adults and i'm sure they can resolve an issue they may have...i just thank dld...for the knowledge that he has provided and if i happen to do something to my body while using that knowledge..the only person to be blamed will be me...but i don't think a lot of new guys understand the risk...we just tell them be careful...don't over do it..go easy at first...but in reality it can be just as dangerous in any phase...i hope everyone hear practice healthy pe...and hope no serious injury occurs to anyone..respect

Again. Thankyou for understanding. Thats exactly how I feel about it.


@ THREAK-X

wins172_up--Cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health and they give a warning on every package sold. The warning is general without giving you every single detail of the dangers. Driving a car is dangerous and when you purchase a vehicle from a Car dealer the sales person don't give you every detail of the dangers of operating a vehicle before driving off of their car lot. You guys are really taking this way too personal. DLD simply exposed tbirdy for acting like a reformed smoker and wanting everyone to quit and not let the tobacco companies profit from it anymore.

MY GOD THIS IS GENIOUS COMPARISON / EXAMPLE MY MAN !

Yes I admit : I am acting like a reformed smoker who wants everyone to quit !

But what does THIS SAY about DLD ? -> HIM ACTING LIKE A TOBACCO COMPANY and PRETENDING TO BE A BIG FAMILY ? Look at my PM to him the same thing YOU accuse him of is the same thing I accuse him off !
---> NOT GIVING A FUCK ABOUT THE Penis EnlargementOPLE WHO JOIN HERE, FOR MATERIAL REASONS, ONLY DOING THE LEAST NESSESSARY EDUCATION/WARNING as IN warnings on ciggerate packets , that don't give you any reasons , but fullfill the premise of being a warning. Beautiful , eh ? :-D


AGAIN @ TWINS127UP


this much is true in all cases Threak...i just don't want anyone jumping all over another member because they had choice words with dld...i've been here for a long time...and it get real old everyone coming out the wood work to gang up on one person because they feel like they have to come to dld rescue...dld is a big boy and can handle themselves....you are also right Threak...we take a risk by just walking out our door in the morning...but i feel if people were more informed on the risks..we wouldn't have countless threads after someone injure themselves complaining about it...but then again i can be wrong...anyway..i hope everyone stays healthy

Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-----> WHY NOT STOP THIS WHOLE ARGUEMENT RIGHT HERE AND TRANSFORM ALL OF THIS THREAD INTO A POSITIVE ACTION ?

Let me keep my face AND let DLD keep his face = No winners or loosers , WE ALL WIN ! Lets change the APPenis EnlargementARANCE OF THIS FORUM and INSTALL BETTER WARNINGS AND BETTER EDUCATION/ REASONS FOR THE WARNINGA AND ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION FOR YOUNG GUYS PROBLEMS (wich they think manifest in a small penis) but infact are only symptems of something different for example : The need for a girlfriend , the need for acceptance , the need for more happiness in their life - wich only a mature mind will give them and not ONE SINGLE UNIMPORTANT DETAIL ABOUT THEIR PHYSIQUE !
Lets SHIFT THE GENERALL ATTITUDE TOWARDS Penis Enlargement.


@atlyroc

you saying basically as much as we promote benifits of pe same energy in warning about the negatives and risks?

I look at the pic of your avatar and I must say : HALLELUJAH ! PREACH BROTHER PREACH :-D :-D :-D !!!!!! YES IN DEED !!! EXACTLY THIS ATTITUDE !!!!!!!!!

@Penis EnlargementPenis Enlargement ok is not important to add anymore but still every sentence there is uncorrect and mere speculation. Or were you sitting next to me, watching over my shoulder while I was jelquing my dick, watching if I performed correctly so you can report back , now, 4 years later ?? ? :-D Comon..take it easy----am joking ;)



Perfect time for DLD to make a DLD worthy move and let all of this be something positive and not a waste of time and energy and effort and wisdom and wise minds...

Peace @ Everybody !
 
the guy posted it, but again so was tbirdy. i'm sure that dld can see posts that were deleted or something, and saw it up there...idk that's what i think. seeing how he runs the whole site right?

this truely is like shoveling shit against the tide. if you don't like the methods or somethin is lacking from dld, then to hell with him. as adults it's up to us to separate truth from bullshit. and i know you're standing firm and speaking out and that's commendable seeing how it's against the head of the site. however also know when a battle is or isn't worth fighting. i don't have anything against you tbirdy, i'm not trying to start anything up. and i'm just putting out advice, take it or leave it, it's up to you.

all i know is that publicity like this isn't good for the forum's new members and might deter older members as well. so point the finger at whoever it takes, but it's true.
 
^^^

a downright gentleman is what you are.

some of the troops did jump in the tank and start firing without actually READING what you originally wrote, but you have replied with grace and dignity.

someone remarked on it in this very thread, but i am of the opinion that impatience is the biggest problem in Penis Enlargement and really needs to be addressed in comprehensive detail.


keep pushing
 
Reber187;292261 said:
^^^

a downright gentleman is what you are.

some of the troops did jump in the tank and start firing without actually READING what you originally wrote, but you have replied with grace and dignity.

someone remarked on it in this very thread, but i am of the opinion that impatience is the biggest problem in Penis Enlargement and really needs to be addressed in comprehensive detail.


keep pushing

the highlighted post is for tbirdy... in case there was any confusion... which there probably wasn't... bye...


keep pushing
 
For laughs, but with a true core :

@ samzman

I'm obviously posessed - it flows out of me ! :-D :-D :-D

Can't you see the Duality of things ?

Christ Antichrist
DLD TBIRDY
good evil
ying young
men woman
fire water
earth wind

we need each other for balance and to perfekt each other on a larger scale...

seriously now :
Duality is how we experience life. We need to see both day and night to see the contrast. We must have hot to show us what cold is. Without these contrasts we would exist in a undifferentiated lukewarm soup, of no contrasts.

Many think hate is the opposite of love, but hate is just an expression of fear. Those who hate see only themselves as trustworthy and so only love themselves and seek their own good. They push others away because they feel threatened and like a flower they close up and shut the door of their feelings and compassion. Fear paralyzes the mind as fear creates more fear.

Good and evil are illusions, and places a person, or event in either one of two categories.

This pattern is seen in the history of war. There are always good guys in white hats riding to the rescue, generation after generation, while the bad guys wear the black hats and are called the villians. In reality there is only One human family, no matter how much humanity tries to separate and categorize each other.

This is why we have been warned not to judge others. In a world of illusions where so many thing seem the opposite of what they really are.

Leaving dual thinking opens the way to see the Oneness of everything. When the twin poles of black and white merge we stop putting people and events in two piles, we stop judging between them on some arbitrary scale, therefore we don’t bring judgement on ourselves.

What is good to one is not good to another. It is good for the employee to get a raise from her perspective but to the boss it is not good and he tries to avoid it. Its all perspective.

Observing another’s choice does not mean adopting that choice as your own. We can later thank that event or person for providing us the contrast we needed to see that their path was not the right one for us.


Really want me to leave ? It would become emptier...wouldn't it...
time would pass another Tbirdy would step up...


It is plain that the negative path is allowed or it would not be present.
Everything serves a purpose and not knowing the purpose does not mean it does not have a purpose.
The purpose of my existence on this Forum is to give contrast and provide you a choice.
 
i don't get what you were sayin bout laughin with the true core. that wasn't an attack on you or anyone. but if you wanna play anti christ ok. whatever, i just feel bad for the newbies
 
tbirdy;292267 said:
p.s.

---------> Little strokes fell big oaks.
Constant dripping wears the stone. :-D




So Do I - thats why I'm here trying to improove their chances...

i dont know why you feel bad for newbies when its known that it takes time to gain. you get what you put into it , just like lifting weights. i tell people that pe is not a quick fix its a long term one.
 
T-birdy, I stand with Reber187 in commending you on your responses as well as your passion for what you are saying. I, much like yourself, have taken a different perspective to Penis Enlargement as I've grown up over the last 5 years. I've learned a lot, being in college does help in some ways, and I've developed my own way of doing things. I've watched the cell division video, and it takes me back to my introductory biology class, and it's interesting to observe what's really going on internally as cells replicate, divide, and begin again. The truth of the matter is that Penis Enlargement takes time. In all likelihood even with the proper warning labels etc men would still get in a hurry and injure themselves. That's the sad reality of the world we live, as it seems no one wants to enjoy the journey anymore.

The other glaring truth, at least something that I've seen all too regularly, is that DLD doesn't need defenders. He's grown, and just like the rest of us he has people that take issue with things he says and does. That's life and it happens to everyone. The "family" needs to sit down and take a minute before jumping all over a guy for disagreeing with "the man of the house". This issue is not really that big of a deal until 100 or so guys start chiming their .02 cents in on DLD's behalf. It's ridiculous that so many men feel the need to "protect" DLD. He can handle himself and I've seen him deal with worse on SEVERAL different occasions. If anyone wants proof that this isn't his first rodeo take a venture over to Thunder's and see how many THREADS are ATTACKS on DLD even 3 years after he left. Come on now, he really doesn't need the help. I'm sure it's appreciated but if you don't understand what's ACTUALLY going on then don't post a response out of some need you have to "protect" DLD.
 
Just remember DLD has a fucking machine gun at his crib, he's obviously expecting some shit one day with an army of limp dicked men.
 
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