Is it possible for some people to just never gain?

Has there been anyone that has tried Penis Enlargement and done it correctly for a long time and seen no gains? Does genetics or the way my body already is have any effect on how much I can gain? I heard people talking about LOT and Im not sure what that is. Does it effect how well certain people gain?

little penis said:

Has there been anyone that has tried Penis Enlargement and done it correctly for a long time and seen no gains?

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I think so, at least there has been plenty of people in various forums that claim to never have gained. Of course, among those who have worked hard and consistently there seems to be more of those who have gained, even if it might not be massive gains. (1/2" might not sound like much but it makes a huge difference.)

little penis said:

Does genetics or the way my body already is have any effect on how much I can gain?

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I'm sure it does. Some people have an upset collagen/elastin ratio which will make ligament stretching harder but never let that limit you. Think mind over matter and perform the work. It's not like you can actively modify your genetic limitations so just work without giving them much thought.

little penis said:

I heard people talking about LOT and Im not sure what that is. Does it effect how well certain people gain?

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I never liked LOT because I don't agree with the physical explanation for the phenomenon of "tugback" and the fanatical pundits it has brought out. I think there's always room for ligament gain. And once you hear DLD talk about always stretching the ligs despite his low LOT...

There are some who claim to never gain, but it is hard to judge since you are the only one pulling your dick. Do manual stretching length work every day. Be consistent. Do this for months. If you still have not gained, you may need to use weights or the power assist to up the intensity.

I credit a lot of Penis Enlargement to determination and belief. I've read about guys who "gave it a shot" and got no gains. Like Yoda says, "Do not try. Do." I went into Penis Enlargement knowing I was going to gain. When I think a project is worth my effort, I KNOW it will work or I don't attempt. I have had modest gains, but I consider myself a hard gainer. An inch and a half length and an inch and a quarter in girth cemented over the years has been worth it to me.

Guys like Bib and DLD are among the "lucky" if you want to call them that, who have gained greatly. But I'll be the first to admit, I haven't put in near the work or effert those guys have. If I had, maybe I'd be 12 inches by now, but who knows?

Genetics plays a role, but to a limit. Not all bodybuilders have the genetics to be Mr. Olympia, but they sure as hell can gain some serious muscle if they bust their ass and eat right.

IMHO, if you honestly believe in your mind that you WILL gain, work very hard at Penis Enlargement, eat right and exercise, keep your body fat as low as possible, you will see gains. If it's only a half inch in flaccid length, that can be huge mentally. That first gain shows you that it WILL work, and use that knowledge to your advantage.


And change your user name. It's mental. Think you have a little penis? Guess what? You do. Think you have a big penis (or at least one that is big enough to pleasure your lover) and guess what? You do.

Think and grow big.

philadelph said:

There are some who claim to never gain, but it is hard to judge since you are the only one pulling your dick.

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Very true. I have worked with many non gainers who swear that they are doing everything right but after we spend some time looking closely at their routine, intensity, beliefs or psychological position we can find where they are lacking. Penis Enlargement is a balance of the mind and body and even the smallest most insignificant detail can make a monumental difference when trying to critique someone's program.

I believe everyone can gain.

doublelongdaddy said:

Very true. I have worked with many non gainers who swear that they are doing everything right but after we spend some time looking closely at their routine, intensity, beliefs or psychological position we can find where they are lacking. Penis Enlargement is a balance of the mind and body and even the smallest most insignificant detail can make a monumental difference when trying to critique someone's program.

I believe everyone can gain.

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i believe everyone can gain also.it takes focus,determination, and intensity.with all 3 of these theres no way you wont gain.

That was beautiful dld...man I love you.

aares said:

That was beautiful dld...man I love you.

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i feel ya

Think anybody that does pe in a way will gain. Some with dramatic size and some not. I have done basically the simplest routine in my year of pe and have made satifactory gains (in my eye's). Some people on here have pe'd for multiple years and made big gains while others have pe'd for a year and made great gains genetics plays a part in this process but only as ruler size matters. anybody should be able to make gains in some sort of way.

Its really hard to believe something without seeing it (for me anyway) but I got some red spots today and instead of being scared I was like, damn, somethin must be stretchin down there, guess it will just take some time.

I've only been at it a few days, and I think after my first gain it will really give me a boost in every aspect you mentioned of my routine.

Great advice from everyone, thanks guys.

Is it possible for some people to just never gain?

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Yes. I do believe some folks can't gain. Atleast the force needed to apply growth is past the pain/injury threshold. Some guys have had good routines and hanged very heavy (talkin' 35+ pounds), and after (in some cases years) gained nothing but extra skin. They exist...

Ulcasterdropout said:

Yes. I do believe some folks can't gain. Atleast the force needed to apply growth is past the pain/injury threshold. Some guys have had good routines and hanged very heavy (talkin' 35+ pounds), and after (in some cases years) gained nothing but extra skin. They exist...

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I remember Falcon (he occasionally visits here, but mostly posts and moderates at the mens-network forums) telling me that he had been hanging insane amounts of weight without gaining anything but base girth. Prior to that, he had gained an inch BPenis EnlargementL with manual stretching, though, and when his gains slowed down, he decided to try hanging. I remember him saying it was like his ligs had become steel, and he just could't squeeze out an extra fraction of an inch no matter how much weight he used or how long he hanged.
I haven't been to the MN forums in a while, nor have I talked to him, so he may have gotten further gains by now, though.

Anyway, I do believe everyone can gain at least a little. There may be physiological factors that limit a man's gains to a degree that he is only able to gain a miniscule amount (elastin/collagen ratio gone bad, like ebon said) of length, and that man may also have an insanely tough tunica, preventing him from gaining much girth, but he can and will gain at least a little if he puts in a lot of determination and hard work. However, it should be considered whether it's worth investing months or years for such a tiny change in your penis. For some, it may be. Personally, I've found I can't make huge changes in my penis size, and I'm not going to ruin my life over it. As long as I get to my goal of 7.5" BPenis EnlargementL and 6" EG eventually (hell, I'll settle for 5.75" EG if things start to look tough), I won't complain. If I never do, then at least I gave it my best shot.

I believe it is important to try multiple ways to make your dick grow. One way will not work for everyone. I believe some peoples dicks will not respond to hanging heavy weights. In some it will make the ligs strengthen so fast and hinder gains for the long run. More and more I am starting to think that manual stretching along with light tension over time (which is medically proven) by using an extender is the way to go.

Shafty said:

Personally, I've found I can't make huge changes in my penis size, and I'm not going to ruin my life over it. As long as I get to my goal of 7.5" BPenis EnlargementL and 6" EG eventually (hell, I'll settle for 5.75" EG if things start to look tough), I won't complain. If I never do, then at least I gave it my best shot.

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Dont take offense or anything but you should always keep the "can do" attitude.If not youve already defeated yourself as theres mental aspects to p.e as we all know.You should just work until you get what you want as far as gains go.No one quits at halftime bro

poonologist said:

Dont take offense or anything but you should always keep the "can do" attitude.If not youve already defeated yourself as theres mental aspects to p.e as we all know.You should just work until you get what you want as far as gains go.No one quits at halftime bro

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I had that attitude... and I lost it somewhere along the way when it didn't do shit for me. I've Penis Enlargement'd with a good attitude and I've Penis Enlargement'd with a negative one (still doing the same amount of work). I haven't gained much either way. There's a difference between being carefully pessimistic and realistic versus being outright self defeating and negative, just as there is a difference between megalomanic optimism and reasonable timetables that can be acheived. My first year of Penis Enlargementing I was going at it like a madman, all the while being 100% sure I'd be at least an inch bigger in both length and girth with the amount of work I was putting in. You can imagine how disappointed I was when I finally measured and I had barely gained at all.

I've noticed a trend here at MoS that guys who make good gains have a hard time coming to grips with the reality that some guys just can't acheive the same gains with equal effort. It is ALWAYS chalked up to lack of motivation or a lack of the right mindset. At a certain point, however, you HAVE to take into consideration the possibility of you having less potential to gain than the next guy for whatever physiological reasons (tough tunica, bad collagen/elastin ratio, whatever). I mean, there are obvious physical differences in what type of gains guys get the easiest- some gain girth easy, yet struggle with length, while others gain length but not much girth. I don't hear anyone disputing that, or trying to write it off as being the result of poor motivation or whatnot. Why couldn't it be possible for some guys to truly have poor "penis genetics", i.e. that they struggle with gaining both girth AND length?

Anyone can gain in pe, most of the battle is with the mind.
Once the mind is on the right track the rest comes easy.
Dedication, time, patience, consistency, intensity all play roles....but the mental chess game is the BIG factor. The mind affects the body, and with a negative mind the body wont perform positively, it will perform negatively. Anyone can gain....its in us all.

Shafty you make alot of valid points.But if youre going at a workout with any mindset at all its gotta be positive or you can expect to get negative results.I know saying thats easy if im not in your position.I have alot of experience with negativity and pessimism in my life and i can tell nothing good has ever came from it for me.As a matter of fact once you get into that rut it takes a herculean effort and quite an investment time and money wise to snap out of it(in my case and many others).

I think as Red says that anyone can gain but not on the same timeframe as others.Some can almost just think about gaining and a month later have half an inch.Others work for a year real hard and get a quarter of an inch gain.But i do believe just about anyone should be able to gain if they really want it.

Shafty said:

I've noticed a trend here at MoS that guys who make good gains have a hard time coming to grips with the reality that some guys just can't acheive the same gains with equal effort. It is ALWAYS chalked up to lack of motivation or a lack of the right mindset. At a certain point, however, you HAVE to take into consideration the possibility of you having less potential to gain than the next guy for whatever physiological reasons (tough tunica, bad collagen/elastin ratio, whatever). I mean, there are obvious physical differences in what type of gains guys get the easiest- some gain girth easy, yet struggle with length, while others gain length but not much girth. I don't hear anyone disputing that, or trying to write it off as being the result of poor motivation or whatnot. Why couldn't it be possible for some guys to truly have poor "penis genetics", i.e. that they struggle with gaining both girth AND length?

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Like I posted above, no one has the same genetics nor "potential" to achieve great gains. I know guys that have sweated their asses off a gyms for years and eat very clean diets, and you barely notice. I also know others the same age whose metabolism and genetics are such that they can eat crap and hardly work out three times a week and look like Greek gods.

Same with Penis Enlargement. That's why I think guys are making a big mistake by sticking with one routine even if they're not getting gains. I've always changed up my routine to keep my unit "shocked" and not knowing what to expect next. That what causes growth. If the dude hanging for years would try something new for a change, I'd bet he'd see some gains. I can jelq exclusively for months and get to the point where there's not even a temporary gain, it gets used to the routine and adapts to it. Then I clamp for 30 minutes and get huge temporary gains (leading to permanent gains) because my body was not used to clamping.

A while back, we used to do "shock sessions" where we take off a few days, then do one Penis Enlargement session (mostly stretches and jelqs) that would last for hours and hours, one guys did a 7 hour session, then take off about a week. Our temporary gains were incredible, with some guys getting temp gains of an inch in length and 2 inches in girth. We concluded that if we only did shock sessions like twice a month, we might see permanent gains quicker.

My point is, we gain from different exercises and we all gain differently. Don't get stuck in rut and wonder why you've plateaued.

Penis Enlargement - masturbation with a purpose.

Nice point WoodieLong

WoodieLong I appreciate your post above as well especially in the expiermental side of things. great post.