Thanks very much for contributing your views million man and I appreciate that you've taken the time to go through some of that chaos!

I think your attitude is indeed right on the money here and you really see the heart of the issue.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to pursue in the future.
 
My foreskin is getting longer due to Penis Enlargement (pumping, hanging and jelqing) and I like the look of it too.

But I never felt inadequate before hand nor did I find it a hinderance in everyday life or sex.

I am not taking sides here.

The last couple of days I have been reading the threads where Kong and swank have been debating and I don't think swank was being personal against kong.
Swank put his points across well and in a civilised manner and it was a shame to see him get called names but encouraging to see swank not retalliate.

There is no need for kong to leave the forum but I think it is important to hear both sides of an argument.
Surely you can stay even if a few people here at FR do not agree with everything you type? That would be too easy, wouldn't it?
 
I agree bluenun, there is no reason for Kong to leave. As I understand it this is pretty much his forum and he does the vast majority of posting around here.

I do believe that FR is not only possible, but a worthwhile pursuit if men are interested in it for whatever reason. Especially now that I've said me piece and there is a little wider breadth of opinion available on the matter, I would encourage Kong to continue advising men and sharing his experiences regarding FR.

I've read plenty of accounts from men on the internet who have successfuly restored and are quite satisfied with the result for a variety of reasons. Though I'm not sure it's directly Penis Enlargement related, there certainly ought to be a place for it at a foum like this, and Kong has shown himself to be the man interested in keeping it running.
 
Indeed...and cheers for that last post swank. Kong is the primary reason that this part of the forum exists. He has done a majority of the posting here, and has been the one to help guys when they needed it. I am with bluenun on this issue as well. If you have enough slack skin that it already looks like you may be uncut, you might as well go for it. But I feel like maybe if Kong takes some time to cool down a bit, and to see that this was about balancing the perspectives and not an attack on him as an individual, hopefully he will return. In all honesty I truly think that the heart of this matter is not whether or not to restore, but it is do we circumcise our children. That is what the articles were discussing, and that is what is so hotly debated. I think that should be put into context as well.
 
Jason1 said:
I was scratching between my balls the other day and I already had a semi. Well I noticed that my CS behind my balls goes far over to the side. Directly over one of my CCs.
Man doesn't that feel good!...i just love to scratch behind my balls!! LMAO LMAO LMAO
 
It is a pertinent topic.

The way I see things right now, there is no medically justifiable reason to do it.

The only argument to be made for it, and this is a rather trite one, is that it seems, according to some sources, that American women have certain ideas about it and the old qualifier of 'locker room' situations.

Personally I don't think either of those are good enough alone.

I do believe in universal use of pain blockers for infants. Not because I think the procedure leaves mental trauma, but in the interests of preventing undue cruelty. I have stated before that due to the nature of our brain development, we can't remember any of are experiences from that age, nor have I ever seen much evidence to suggest there are latent effects from anything that happens in the days immediately after birth. Though things like mother bonding and such occurr at this point, whether or not these conditions persist past infancy and to what degree they are instinctual and reactionary have been debated in very heavy texts that I'm not qualified to discuss. What I do know is that the physical trauma of birth and removal from the womb would make us all insane if we were mentally affected by it, so I doubt if mental damage from circumcision shows up in grown men. Irregardless, I think pain blockers are a necessity.

Another difficulty for parents is the question of 'what about later on?' The advantage of the infant procedure is that the child heals most quickly and naturally from that age, nor does he have any recoverable experience with an uncircumcised penis to contrast, as in if he were to have the procedure as an older child or adult. A parent may also worry or debate about whether or not the child may feel resentment for having a penis that he discovers is different (though he will likely get over this, where as it would seem men unhappy with their parents due to circumcision have the potential for a far more extended period of anger). It is, however, something that new parents must certainly consider when making the decision.

I myself have not decided what it will be when the day comes, but I would expect to discuss it in great detail with my wife/girlfriend and our doctor. If we were to do it I would insist on a careful and delicate operation in advance, as well as the painblockers. If we are going to cut my son's penis (if I ever have a son), we're going to do it right! But to be clear, I'm not to keen on the idea to begin with.
 
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Well said.

I have to add that it is my opinion we have all been rendered insane or left with an inherent sedated mentality when it comes to this. It's a Fucking crazy idea to me! TO even debate it. (I'm not speaking to you Swank or anyone really just yelling at the wall) Cutting something off of a little baby's reproductive organ??? Okay, I'm just going to meet you guys on the dark side of the moon because my mind just exploded once I tried grasping it all.
 
Indeed, the origins are opaque and there is no need for the procdure in modern society.

I do believe it probably came about as necessary hygene condition for ancient desert peoples (I have read accounts, and I do not vouch for their accuracy, of historical texts describing many sever foreskin conditions that develop due to dry sandy climates and lack of proper bathing facility, appearently affecting alrge numbers of people). I believe this is how the practice probably found it's way into religious rites.

It's inclusion in modern Western culture is a remnant of less informed times and a strange story to say the least.
 
Swank said:
Indeed, the origins are opaque and there is no need for the procdure in modern society.

I do believe it probably came about as necessary hygene condition for ancient desert peoples (I have read accounts, and I do not vouch for their accuracy, of historical texts describing many sever foreskin conditions that develop due to dry sandy climates and lack of proper bathing facility, appearently affecting alrge numbers of people). I believe this is how the practice probably found it's way into religious rites.

It's inclusion in modern Western culture is a remnant of less informed times and a strange story to say the least.



I would never NEVER in a million years have my son circumcised. I is wrong, it is genital mutation, but it is legal.

Me being uncut I was laughed at in the locker rooms growing up, and even had a few girls freak out once they saw my cock. I don't see how circumcision can cause emotional trauma in young kids, hell there not the ones getting laughed at in the locker room. Though i gotta say most of the little fucks laughing at me cause I had extra skin down there had smaller cocks than mine, so it stopped bothering me, cause I'd come back with " Shut up you little dick fuck".

Circumcision should be stopped, and should be made illegal. It is like cropping a Dogs ears and Tail??? Why for show??? Bullshit.
 
Could you imagine being the first in line for the first circumcision lol of those desert cultures...I'd be like no no no I can take it I can take...I can take the pain..get that thing away from my dick...
 
Last would be worst...hearing all those screams and begging...I would run like the desert hare!
 
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