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pnoewbe;337559 said:
No, if you really follow the guys' history...or track him down on the bibhanger forum which he still posts on almost daily, he will tell you he gained way before that. He worked up over time to 43lbs, but never used that much weight for very long. It was more to test how much he could hang, and how much weight his hangers as they evolved could handle. LOL, no offense but it's entertaining to see how stories evolve over time, as facts get left out.
Funny how the op disappeared after he realized his goof got him exposed.
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Rocket, is it difficult to hang 40 pounds for 10 minutes due to pain? Don't do pain. Pain from hanger or wrap problems should not be ignored or injury is sure to result. It should be easy and enjoyable to hang if you have good wrap and hanger and took long enough to get to whatever weight. I started at 8 lb and worked up in 1/2 pound increments after five hanging days at each half pound. That's too fast for a lot of people, so another way to measure is five days or until I couldn't feel any tiredness or soreness. Actually at higher weights I did more than five days at a weight because I varied type of hang more, like su, sd, so, all around, bundling.
I think Bib said he didn't hang beyond 43 or 44 pounds. It's like gas mileage, less weight or fuel is better per mile or inch gained. I think BiB's style was hang heavy until fatigued, then do a lot of sets at lower weight.
I'm always experimenting. I cannot do a useful set with qi-gong noose with noose set at glans rather than between sac and body like qi-gongers do it. I can only hang 70 pounds for a minute with a noose and a cloth wrap, or just about time to take a picture. Useless except for lig pops. I use a comfortable hanger up to 155 pounds, and then I can do six sets of a minute or two two minute sets, again probably not worth a lot but I put several months into hanging 90-155 pounds for four to six one minute sets. I also hung from a pipe and lifted one foot off the ground, and both feet now and then, short sets there, too, like a minute. Sometimes I get a good soreness but a lot of time went into lig stretching and some lig pips now and then. I am thinking maybe inner p comes out after suspensory stretching.
Lately I've backed off 30% on weight so I can do 25+ sets(minutes) a day once or twice a week. It's mentally hard to get there more than once or twice a week. At 30% less than max weight I can pulse the weight, using my legs. 25 minutes is conventional, though in one minute sets. Pulsing is probably extremely dangerous but at reduced weight I can feel when a pulse is right about good stress level not about to snap something.
This is experimental, after getting stuck at 42 pounds with BiB hanger and 20 minute sets. No results worth documenting. Lots of bruising.
I think Bib said he didn't hang beyond 43 or 44 pounds. It's like gas mileage, less weight or fuel is better per mile or inch gained. I think BiB's style was hang heavy until fatigued, then do a lot of sets at lower weight.
I'm always experimenting. I cannot do a useful set with qi-gong noose with noose set at glans rather than between sac and body like qi-gongers do it. I can only hang 70 pounds for a minute with a noose and a cloth wrap, or just about time to take a picture. Useless except for lig pops. I use a comfortable hanger up to 155 pounds, and then I can do six sets of a minute or two two minute sets, again probably not worth a lot but I put several months into hanging 90-155 pounds for four to six one minute sets. I also hung from a pipe and lifted one foot off the ground, and both feet now and then, short sets there, too, like a minute. Sometimes I get a good soreness but a lot of time went into lig stretching and some lig pips now and then. I am thinking maybe inner p comes out after suspensory stretching.
Lately I've backed off 30% on weight so I can do 25+ sets(minutes) a day once or twice a week. It's mentally hard to get there more than once or twice a week. At 30% less than max weight I can pulse the weight, using my legs. 25 minutes is conventional, though in one minute sets. Pulsing is probably extremely dangerous but at reduced weight I can feel when a pulse is right about good stress level not about to snap something.
This is experimental, after getting stuck at 42 pounds with BiB hanger and 20 minute sets. No results worth documenting. Lots of bruising.
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extreme;320865 said:
We're almost exactly the same. 40 pounds not doing anything for either of us, and with your hanger I could take the same pic with 100(wouldn't have the bulging flaccid though). Your productive sets are 50-75 lbs, 10 minutes 2x per day. My current workouts are 25 one minute sets. I will also continue to come down toward your ten minute sets because you're gaining.
I'm thinking about some sort of compression sock or wrapping cord to prevent rolling skin over the glans or rolling the glans itself(interesting bullseye bruise I hope it's not permanent). It's too tedious to wrap cord first but some kind of firm compression sock/wrap before hanger/wrap. For now I'm just starting over if I get a big skin rollover. I'm sure the qigong girth hitch noose could pull the glans off but they don't seem to use it there, but instead above the ball sack.
Brown discoloration will go away. Chafing seems to turn areas brown. Manual work takes on new meaning as extreme hangers battle to keep blood clots from causing sudden brain death etc. Manual pe then becomes massage for circulation and oxygenation.
It seems like the chi is protecting my penis from stretching, but it's just that I can't stand to do enough time at max weight. Productive sets seem to be longer with less weight, but instead of that meaning 20 pounds like most people, for us less weight means 50 pounds or more.
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doublelongdaddy;434428 said:
I read the whole thread and he may be talking about extreme's 100 lb pic, because of the pumpy looking flaccid. If it was 1000 lb, think photoshop, but extreme's statements all go together consistently and qi gongers are hanging up to 400 lb so give a poor American a job hanging 100 lb.
As far as thick flaccid while hanging in extreme's pic, a longer flaccid p holds blood in between erections for a longer time, trapping it, so there's a heavy dick hanging around more of the time. The physics is that a flaccid offers less resistance in the first place and after erection, no pressure to squeeze blood out, so hey, stick/hang/poke around a while, heavy dick.
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For me it seems like no matter how heavy the weight, no gains unless sets add up to 20 minutes one day, not everyday.
One way to do that is like BiB, hang heavy until fatigue then back off the weight to get total time desired.
When I started doing it that way, I got a little gain, but noticed snapback to discouraging loss a lot of times. The gain would show up next day after an easy day. I have some enthusiasm so I'm doing at least four one minute sets a day and up to 25 one-minute sets a day. Snapback happens a lot.
I think it helps not to have more than one rest day a week. Just a set or two at heavy weight might keep gains over a light day.
One way to do that is like BiB, hang heavy until fatigue then back off the weight to get total time desired.
When I started doing it that way, I got a little gain, but noticed snapback to discouraging loss a lot of times. The gain would show up next day after an easy day. I have some enthusiasm so I'm doing at least four one minute sets a day and up to 25 one-minute sets a day. Snapback happens a lot.
I think it helps not to have more than one rest day a week. Just a set or two at heavy weight might keep gains over a light day.
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doublelongdaddy;437370 said:
Yes and you're doing manual stretches after every hanging set which repeats the idea of shocking and follow up lighter, like tapering down in the overall series. Then on a day by day basis, same thing, heavy days followed by keeping the pressure on with lighter days instead of rest days. Relentless!
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Sooooo, how about two to three sets of 15-20 minutes each? Why all the talk about 3 minute sets? Unless I misread. Are we doing this for a fetish or gains?
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stillwantmore2;437667 said:
We're talking about extreme weight that we can't hang for 15-20 minutes, so we go as long as we can for each set and then do multiple sets to add up to 20 minutes or more a day, so as to go for gains not fetish. There is also a strategy of adding longer sets at less weight after extreme weight sets have shocked the tissue and maybe we can't stand to hang at that max weight any more that day. 'extreme' and DLD have given explicit programs.
As far as going for "fetish", if I do one or two sets at extreme weight, no gains are going to result that day or longterm with that, but, for about a day I have hormones and chi and better control. Tesla sex is cool but I want gains too.
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pnoewbe;437684 said:
Ah ok, I get it now. I hoped that was the direction you were aiming at
Technique that you may want to try that has helped me break weight barriers in the past is to actually hang a little less. Then, in this example let's say it's 15lbs you're hanging. This is your normal weight you can currently hang comfortably for a couple sets before you hit fatigue. During a set, use a foot, or hand to push down on your hanger for a minute or two at a time (going by an actual clock), ease up and repeat a couple minutes later. Do this throughout at least two sets per day for a few days. After that few days, go back up to the higher weight you are trying to add more time to. You should be able to eventually add more time. I definitely understand and have experience with the more time and lower weights concept of hanging, and changing my thinking to accept the more weight/less time approach has been a little tough. Like I've told many guys in the past, most of my 2" length gain from hanging came from working with 15-17.5lbs. Granted, I invested way too much time (3-4 hours total daily, 5-6 days per week with at least a couple sets per weekend day as well) back then into my hanging, but I was sold on this approach, and it worked for me. If I could do it all over, the progressively more weight with less time would have been my approach. I'll be using this method when I begin again soon.
Also, I don't know how many hangers actually keep physical track of their hanging. I would keep a small notebook/memo pad specifically for hanging where I would keep track of the date, time hung, sets hung, weight hung per set, any increases/decreases, observations/thoughts, etc for each day I'd hang. It makes progressing easier because you have something you can actually see and reflect on. I'll be keeping a notebook when I start again in a couple weeks or so.
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"let's say it's 15lbs you're hanging. This is your normal weight you can currently hang comfortably for a couple sets before you hit fatigue. During a set, use a foot, or hand to push down on your hanger for a minute or two at a time (going by an actual clock), ease up and repeat a couple minutes later. Do this throughout at least two sets per day for a few days. After that few days, go back up to the higher weight you are trying to add more time to. You should be able to eventually add more time -stillwantmore2"
That's great. It's easy to add a loop or belt for a foot. Handles on LengthMaster(sticky thread) can be leaned on I guess but I don't have one yet.
That's great. It's easy to add a loop or belt for a foot. Handles on LengthMaster(sticky thread) can be leaned on I guess but I don't have one yet.
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pnoewbe;438140 said:
Very true, you can get a lot of extra intensity using the handle bars on the LengthMaster.
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