Do you believe in god? the gods discussion thread

[Priapus90]

I believe God exists!! I can't prove it to you, never saw him... but I know what i feel inside me! I know a lot of people may argue with that! I used to work in a nursing home and I've seen some die screaming, not cause they were in pain but cause they saw something comin at the end! Others I've seen die in peace and slip off with a smile on their faces! I think there is a God and I think in the end we will all meet him!! Not tryin to argue, just how I believe!!

 

[Crazy Doc]

(chuckles)
Believe me, nothing you've posted is new. Nothing.

It's statements like that that prove my point, you know it all max

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Naw, you're just predictable.
& redundant.

It's statements like that that prove my point, you know it all max

 

[Crazy Doc]

Naw, you're just predictable.
& redundant.

Sorry, let me revise: You know everything and you'll disagree with whatever I say lol. It's amazing how small one's body of knowledge is when they think they cannot learn from 99% of the population! Oh, but you already knew I'd say that... and you knew I'd tear your sili "burning airplane" argument to shreds too... that's why you said all that stuff and watched me make it look idiotic, perhaps it's a masochism fetish... oh wait, you already knew I'd say that. Yes, I truly DO believe you've learned nothing from me Max lol.

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Just can't separate the post from the person, can ya?

 

[Crazy Doc]

Just can't separate the post from the person, can ya?

Do you always talk in slogans? Hmm former AA member maybe max or just unoriginal?

 

[Alex78]

Hey guys get this on topic, go to mail chat, this bitter attacking on one another is not really the god like way for us to contribute to these posts!
Topic was all scientific and spiritual now it is going on the street...

 

[Crazy Doc]

Hey guys get this on topic, go to mail chat, this bitter attacking on one another is not really the god like way for us to contribute to these posts!
Topic was all scientific and spiritual now it is going on the street...

Um, I'm pretty sure it started with a "gold level support" member calling me a liar. I guess moderators don't have to follow the rules. I was just defending myself Alex.

 

[stillwantmore]

You're not listening very well- I already explained that Buddhists are mostly Atheists, so we have NO view of god, god is a contradictory concept to our fundamental beliefs. My point was that guys that try to twist god into something that really contradict the very foundation of what a god is... are kind of like closet gays... they do all these things that are gay, but then try to deny they are gay lol. It's better to simply know the self and just come out with whatever you are or believe. Also-there are many ATHEIST faiths, so again your statement appears a bit ignorant. None of those believers has ANY view of any god, period.

I was replying in a very generalized way. Also replying on what I have experienced personally. I've never met an atheist with a faith, that sounds interesting.

I'd like to point out the fact that having a logical discussion does not include repeatedly pointing out ignorance. Rather, enlighten someone if you feel you have an opposing or more informed point of view

 

[REDZULU2003]

Lets respect each other and realise we have our OWN views. Keep this civil and professional guys. Come on this is a good thread dont ruin it.

 

[Priapus90]

Lets respect each other and realise we have our OWN views. Keep this civil and professional guys. Come on this is a good thread dont ruin it.

I agree RED! Lets just all say weather we believe or not, why or why not, and leave it at that!! LOL!! :D

 

[Crazy Doc]

I was replying in a very generalized way. Also replying on what I have experienced personally. I've never met an atheist with a faith, that sounds interesting.

I'd like to point out the fact that having a logical discussion does not include repeatedly pointing out ignorance. Rather, enlighten someone if you feel you have an opposing or more informed point of view

I hear you there... but it's pretty rude for a bunch of people to say "no, you do too have a higher power!" lol... It get's old.

 

[DLD]

In my opinion it is smart to believe in God because if you don't and he is real it would really suck when you pass I would rather have faith and play it safe.

 

[Alex78]

In my opinion it is smart to believe in God because if you don't and he is real it would really suck when you pass I would rather have faith and play it safe.

This is exactly what a preacher wants you to!
Does not care if you do, just say you do, so that you encourage others..
If God exist he gave you free will and part of it is that you can believe what you want...


This kind of thinking is not God knowing, you cannot insult an entity that exists everywhere and nowhere at once, your mind cannot comprehend what god is only what he is not!
How can you insult God by saying something against God!
How can you do it? Can you even point a finger and say i insult you!
looks like we only insult what we think God is!

 

[Crazy Doc]

In my opinion it is smart to believe in God because if you don't and he is real it would really suck when you pass I would rather have faith and play it safe.

That's seemingly a good argument DLD-but I bet you haven't really thought it out. Now if there were only 2 choices-God or No God, you'd (from a logic standpoint) be correct.... it would be safer to hedge your bets and believe in God.

But the reality is, there are hundreds of gods.... so this means that the odds just got much worse-if you pray to the wrong god, or make up your own god (still praying to the wrong god unless you got lucky) you're still gonna piss him off and get his wrath ya?

So now that we've stretched the scenario to realism-which is hundreds (really THOUSANDS) of god choices... there is only one logical choice to make, all else held equal:

Choose the god with the WORST PUNISHydromaxENT as you are guaranteed at least now, not to get the worst punisHydromaxent. And guess what, it ain't the christian, jewish, or islamic god-those are all child's play compared to the punisHydromaxents some gods give out.

 

[Crazy Doc]

I'm shocked nobody has commented on the burning monk-who sits still and doesn't make a sound. Arguments aside-this has got to be one of the most fantastic demonstrations of mental control in history.

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Here's my original response, from about a year-and-a-half ago.
I think it still applies:

Re: do you believe in God?
In response to this question I usually have to ask for clarification:
"To which particular definition of God are you referring?"

And remember; belief, by its nature and definition, requires no proof, simply belief

 

[Alex78]

David Halberstam wrote:

I was to see that sight again, but once was enough. Flames were coming from a human being; his body was slowly withering and shriveling up, his head blackening and charring. In the air was the smell of burning human flesh; human beings burn surprisingly quickly. Behind me I could hear the sobbing of the Vietnamese who were now gathering. I was too shocked to cry, too confused to take notes or ask questions, too bewildered to even think... As he burned he never moved a muscle, never uttered a sound, his outward composure in sharp contrast to the wailing people around him.[24]

After his death, his body was re-cremated, but his heart remained intact.[2][3] This was interpreted as a symbol of compassion and led Buddhists to revere him as a Bodhisattva, heightening the impact of his death on the public psyche.

Looks like he achieved some higher states of conscience, he could detach from the body in order to stay calm and feel no pain..
Truly a remarkable feet of strength and body control!

 

[DLD]

That's seemingly a good argument DLD-but I bet you haven't really thought it out. Now if there were only 2 choices-God or No God, you'd (from a logic standpoint) be correct.... it would be safer to hedge your bets and believe in God.

But the reality is, there are hundreds of gods.... so this means that the odds just got much worse-if you pray to the wrong god, or make up your own god (still praying to the wrong god unless you got lucky) you're still gonna piss him off and get his wrath ya?

So now that we've stretched the scenario to realism-which is hundreds (really THOUSANDS) of god choices... there is only one logical choice to make, all else held equal:

Choose the god with the WORST PUNISHydromaxENT as you are guaranteed at least now, not to get the worst punisHydromaxent. And guess what, it ain't the christian, jewish, or islamic god-those are all child's play compared to the punisHydromaxents some gods give out.

I have thought it out and I still stand by it; Better to believe in God than not, if it turns out he does not exist you lose nothing, if he is real you gain everything...I will play it safe and praise my God.

 

[DLD]

And remember; belief, by its nature and definition, requires no proof, simply belief

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