Anyone tried HGH and PE?

Hey guys,
Been doing some research-esque readings on the subject matter and have only found conflicting reports so far. Some say it works, other say it doesn't!

Let me firstly say that I am a total noob in this matter, and only basing my assertions on logic. I am forced to align with the pro hgh PE faction, based on these simply facts:

HGH has an immediate effect on water retention (kinda like creatine)resulting in a feeling of increased muscle/tissue mass, resulting in huge expansions. A good argument would be how can we be sure that water will be retained in the penis, and not some other part of the body. well I'd say based on the effects of pumping and how engorged the penis usually is after a session due to fluid/blood build up, I think if combined with the use of HGH this could be very effective.

Another interesting concept would be that since PE (manual stretching, hanging, pumping) is aimed at breaking down tissues to enable growth or formation of new tissues, and HGH's primary function is to spur growth in children and adolescents (adults too), promote muscle and bone growth in individuals regardless of age. Won't it make sense to combine these two.

Also read somewhere that "Human growth hormone also has lipolytic effects: subcutaneous fat decreases rather quickly and the muscles look more defined and increased in volume". . . This might help with getting rid of the FAT PAD, to help reveal the real length of your nbpel penis.


I have never experimented with HGH or Roids simply because I don't like needles, not scared of the pain. . Just not sure how to inject me-self
So I was wondering if anyone has experimented with this and would like to share their observations or results.

See link below for a good read

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Benefits of HGH....could you get a BIGGER penis? How do I make HGH more effective?

I can't afford HGH but I was doing GHRP-6 for awhile, and I'm about to start IPAM/CJC no dac. With the GHRP-6 I gained a lot of muscle and lost fat, but I didn't see any penis size changes but I'll see if the IPAM/CJC no dac combo does anything. Although I'm also going to be doing a steroid cycle, DHT cream, and tb-500 so it'll be hard to know which is doing what. For me, the tb-500 seemed to help my gains from stretching, but I had to stop using it cuz I ran out of money.

ShadedSam;653045 said:

I can't afford HGH but I was doing GHRP-6 for awhile, and I'm about to start IPAM/CJC no dac. With the GHRP-6 I gained a lot of muscle and lost fat, but I didn't see any penis size changes but I'll see if the IPAM/CJC no dac combo does anything. Although I'm also going to be doing a steroid cycle, DHT cream, and tb-500 so it'll be hard to know which is doing what. For me, the tb-500 seemed to help my gains from stretching, but I had to stop using it cuz I ran out of money.

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Read your progress log thread congrats on the huge gains bro. BTW, isn't HCG suppose to be the bad estrogenic stuff produced during pregnancy? Heard it ramps up estradiol in men and causes man boobs n shit. Like I said I am a total noob, so might be wrong.

I tell you the internet is one madhouse! I just found this and now I am even more confused.
study showed a growth of .80% WHOA!!!

Penile Growth in Response to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) Treatment in Patients with Idiopathic Hypogonadotrophic Hypogonadism

Yeah, that's why I took nolvadex while on it. For my steroid cycle I'm going to be taking arimadex to block estrogen and nolvadex just in case. Nolva blocks estrogen effects in breast tissue, arimadex blocks all estrogen so you don't NEED nolva while on it, but better safe than sorry. HCG doesn't increase estrogen enough to need arimadex. The HCG study you cited is about people who have a disorder so they don't go through puberty. If you never went through puberty, you're dick still has puberty gains available to it. That's one of the reason I did it, to see if I had used up all my "natural" gains (I had so I didn't gain much that way. Maybe a little girth, but couldn't really tell).

hgh makes all tissues grow, but very slowly. its also very expensive so that combined with the fact it doesnt give you a boost for weight lifting it probably isnt worth it.

There's lots of hormone talk lately. If yall just want easy gains then I wouldn't get my hopes up too much because you do need to put in the effort also.

true, there is no instant gratification with this

I think the question should be has ANYONE TRIED HGH AND gained?

doublelongdaddy;654106 said:

I think the question should be has ANYONE TRIED HGH AND gained?

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Well me obviously, but I don't inject shit into my dick and anybody who does that is asking for trouble imo

I was on 8 i.u. of pharma grade hgh for 5 straight years while I was a competitive bodybuilder and I saw zero penis growth while using it.
It made the unit slightly more vascular but that's about it.

The one combo I think may work is gonadotropin releasing hormone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle stimulating hormone.

Those are the 3 main hormones that kick start male puberty.

H.c.g. mimicks LH, and the other 2 hormones are available from a small list of research companies.

timber1981;655430 said:

I was on 8 i.u. of pharma grade hgh for 5 straight years while I was a competitive bodybuilder and I saw zero penis growth while using it.
It made the unit slightly more vascular but that's about it.

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That's the potential power of the net & forums where ppl who take action are willing to post candidly about their experiences.
There's your answer.

Don't know if timber1981 will know or agree that you can also boost the natural release of HGH by your body, as you can for other hormones such as Testosterone.
I tried boosting my HGH production through high intensity reps -fastest as I could repeat without injury- lifts of my own body weight one hour before bed or when my body felt like it during the day. What lifts? Military presses then immediately to good form solid pullups from front of body and behind my head.
I think this did release HGH effectively as I grew in size... but it didn't help my penis grow any faster as my body using its resources growing my body over my cock.
I didn't try lowering the no. of reps to see if there was a minimum that would still induce HGH being put into the bloodstream but not end up with the focus of growth that night going to my body over my groin. It makes survival sense that the body would prioritise growing the muscles over your penis.
I've had just as much growth or more now I've cut down on the physical training and have done only PE. Which certainly tallies with other guys experiences here. Maybe HGH actually clashes with the T and DHT release that is required in the bloodstream to activate a change: growth of the sexual organs.
I've made all the mistakes and tried all the approaches and have grown fast, and then not at all. I'm now confident I've understood the limiting factors in the body to allow me to grow by 1.5"+ length and close to 2" girth at the base over the next year with only 30 minutes on average a day.
I started small. I had to PE myself to an avg. sized penis and now I'm going to the threshold of huge.

first and foremost i would like to make some statements about roids.

roids is not the "quick fix"
if you use it like that you will most likely tear something apart as you haven't learned to use the body correct yet.

roids should be used when you have archived great fitness and realized that you can't go any further from there.

thats where i would recommend roids.

if diet and training isn't in check.

you are asking for trouble.

with that being said.

even though we haven't found any steroids that can increase the penis yet. i believe that is just a matter of time.

as already stated HGH increases the size of just about anything on your body (including the heart. which can cause major issues)

so obviously it can have an effect on the penis aswell.

and eventually some doctor will find some way to isolate what does that and tadaa we have the penis pill.

however i believe that it's important that we categorized the ways the different roids could effect the penis by

making the tissue more flexible.

helping recovery.

making the cells grow

for me this is the 3 ways a roid could theoretically help you enlarge the penis.

TB500 could be the potential for the 2 first categories.
HGH could be the one for the last one (also the 2nd one)

but basicly the question i want to ask is: why should this work?
what mechanism do we expect to happen?

i mean with tb500 which helps with flexibility and recovery.
nothing would happen if you didn't do any form of workout.

where as the HGH should enlarge the penis (even 1mm over longer period) without working out.

just some thought really

Aimingforthetop;655438 said:

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where as the HGH should enlarge the penis (even 1mm over longer period) without working out.

just some thought really

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I second your warning about steroid use.
While some ppl claim they can dose themselves at safe levels it has been shown to me that the body has so many interrelated systems, and thresholds controlling those systems, that introducing something that may have had a positive effect on someone else's -or even on almost everyone else's body- may have the OPPOSITE effect on yours. You have to be very expert to do that kind of thing and it is no joke, you can really fuck yourself up long term: BE WARNED WANNABE CHEM USERS.

So I strongly urge that people stick to trying to encourage greater production of their body's natural hormone supply through exercise and supplementing substances which your body naturally produces.
Seek expert advice or read up on this guys as it isn't something you can work out for yourself.

I've been testing encouraging HGH, T (testosterone) & DHT ( dyhydrotestosterone ).

HGH isn't just a cell signaller for growth, it is part of the body's healing maintenance and repair. It is mostly put in the bloodstream during REM sleep - deep sleep.

Growth in animals is controlled by 3 proteins and hormones in an intricate process which seems to prevent it happening by accident.

So merely acting on, or boosting HGH synthetically, UNLESS you are suffering from a lack of the necessary amount won't have any effect.
I have found having T and DHT in the blood that you move and hold in the penis more key for growth of those tissues. Someone said the receptors in the sexual organs are 'keyed' to T and DHT.

Best natural way to boost growth hormone levels post workout is GABA. 4mg per night.

GABA quadruples post-training growth hormone production

timber1981;655445 said:

Best natural way to boost growth hormone levels post workout is GABA. 4mg per night.

GABA quadruples post-training growth hormone production

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Thanks timber. As I pointed out that's a boost in what the body generates in response to needing to repair the body after the intense enough workout.

Just be warned: the gaba gives you extreme CNS stimulation. Your entire body gets very itchy once it kicks in. Some people get very sleepy after taking it as well.

If I'm having a hard time relaxing when I go to sleep, I take gaba, valerian root and melatonin. After that I could probably sleep through a hurricane.

That really deep sleep is great for hgh production.

^ I've taken melatonin in sippin surp it knocks me out fast like a half pill of seroquel.

About roids all I've heard is that it yields big muscle growth, but not tendon growth so people end up snapping their shit up from so much strain. If you lift naturally all the tissues evolve evenly so its a more rounded package.

timber1981;655430 said:

I was on 8 i.u. of pharma grade hgh for 5 straight years while I was a competitive bodybuilder and I saw zero penis growth while using it.
It made the unit slightly more vascular but that's about it.

The one combo I think may work is gonadotropin releasing hormone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle stimulating hormone.

Those are the 3 main hormones that kick start male puberty.

H.c.g. mimicks LH, and the other 2 hormones are available from a small list of research companies.

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did you see growth overall? not trying to say your gear was bad, but i have only been blasting gh 2 maybe 3 years and im about to need size 14 shoes...

timber1981;655445 said:

Best natural way to boost growth hormone levels post workout is GABA. 4mg per night.

GABA quadruples post-training growth hormone production

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take with L-arginine
deer antler velvet is also good for natural gh