What has been the feed back people have received while using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with one of the comfort methods versus the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words], I use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] on and off. If I can be more religious with is I'm sure I will have some nice gains. I feel immense burning at the base and try and increase as much tension as possible I try to rest for an hour or so, my usual timeframe is an hour to two and a half hours. I almost have all bars in use, the medium bars are the only ones left.

Patiently waiting for those so called 2300g tension bars to be released.

Also I'm looking for something to help stay elongated with, I've done [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]UJW[/words], but I have also heard or the divo suit and the stealth. Can't anyone give advice on that?
 
I used the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with the silicone tube and the velcro strap and I got decent results with it and with prety good confort, I can wear it for 1h sets with the silicone tube and 3 hours sets using the velcro. I don't own a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Tugger[/words] so I can't give you info on that but from what guys have reported around here it seems to be the most confortable attachment for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and can be worn day-long so you must be doing something wrong if you can't go for more then 1 hour with it.

I never felet any "base pain" as you decribe it and I used the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] at 1500 grams with original springs and at 3200 grams with custom springs so far, where do you feel the pain and how long into the set it appears? I may be caused by the skin being streched by the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].

And finaly, wearing it 2h/day will not produce much gains, at least not at 1500g of tension with the original springs. You need at least 4 hours of continuous usage with a maximum break of 10 mins between sets to get good results, I found that the penis gets into a different state after the 3-4 hour mark witch is more pliable and strechy and with a temporary increse in FSL of about 0.2 inches witch does not happen in less then 3 hours and I belive this is what got me the gains.

~Blue.
 
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Since you have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] why not just use that at a lower tension to remain elongated after training? This is a great method and easily accomplished. Using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] you can easily get in and out quickly. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] also comes with it's own [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] system that can be used as an elongation method also.
 
Blueballs;606757 said:
I used the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with the silicone tube and the velcro strap and I got decent results with it and with prety good confort, I can wear it for 1h sets with the silicone tube and 3 hours sets using the velcro. I don't own a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Tugger[/words] so I can't give you info on that but from what guys have reported around here it seems to be the most confortable attachment for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and can be worn day-long so you must be doing something wrong if you can't go for more then 1 hour with it.

I never felet any "base pain" as you decribe it and I used the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] at 1500 grams with original springs and at 3200 grams with custom springs so far, where do you feel the pain and how long into the set it appears? I may be caused by the skin being streched by the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].

And finaly, wearing it 2h/day will not produce much gains, at least not at 1500g of tension with the original springs. You need at least 4 hours of continuous usage with a maximum break of 10 mins between sets to get good results, I found that the penis gets into a different state after the 3-4 hour mark witch is more pliable and strechy and with a temporary increse in FSL of about 0.2 inches witch does not happen in less then 3 hours and I belive this is what got me the gains.

~Blue.

The base pain feels like a very intense lig stretch, it hurts so good type of feeling not a ouch painful. I try to stretch hard and believe in higher tension then lower, only thing is after the session i do have the usual sensitivity that is mentioned (for those who are circumcised) after taking off the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the massage and rub down with some heat pad therapy always helps recuprate quickly. I think if people are wearing their [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] all day then they might have it at lower tension and or the leg strap that comes with it, it is comfortable I cannot deny that at all. I need better springs too I think because mine they feel extremely flimsy so I have to push out arm screw and my tension screw to the limit so I can feel a good stretch. Do you know where I can get a new set of tension springs or will I have to purchase a whole new unit?

Oh and I repeat my 1-2 hour intervals at least 3-4 times a day and manual stretching when I can get it in as well, working as nurse sometimes warps all your energy. But maybe I can play with increased tension for 45 minutes high tension and then hour low tension and just repeat until I have to pee.

Oh and I snapped my silicone tube early on which I decided to never repurchase lol. Velcro strap are a great buy though and I have seen other peoples progress with them and it speaks for itself. I like the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] because my theory is that its pulling the inner penis and provides and intense stretch that I never felt with any of the comfort methods.
 
doublelongdaddy;606839 said:
Since you have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] why not just use that at a lower tension to remain elongated after training? This is a great method and easily accomplished. Using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] you can easily get in and out quickly. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] also comes with it's own [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] system that can be used as an elongation method also.

DLD, dude I would love to stay in it lower tension but the shaft skin I have to use to make the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] becomes so sensitive that I have to rub down and use the heating pad before I can put it back on. This picture was from earlier today and I will be back in it for my second run in a little bit. I have always wondered if I am using the right device but I have been told a long time ago from someone circumcised as I am that I want to use this model for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] purposes and not for the foreskin restoration reasons.<br>View attachment 29484</br>

Well here is the picture of me in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with the attachement<br>View attachment 29485</br>
 
The connection looks excellent, how long are you wearing before it becomes uncomfortable? Or is it only when you go light that it causes issues?
 
doublelongdaddy;607074 said:
The connection looks excellent, how long are you wearing before it becomes uncomfortable? Or is it only when you go light that it causes issues?

There really isn't any certain timeframe. I try to stay in it for two hours minimum each set. It's more so just the shaft skin I have to manipulate to cover the head since I'm circumcised that gets uncomfortable. Where it is white at is the discomfort probably from lack of blood flow.

My girlfriend sees me in it and bugs out thinking I'm gonna rip my cock off hahaha. But lately using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] had made my erections massively strong. I have been trying to kegel as well while in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] since I have to have a massive base too and I could have sworn I heard kegels during [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] helps
 
i am trying to figure out a good way to use my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bulb with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]
 
youknowme123321;607188 said:
i am trying to figure out a good way to use my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bulb with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

Is there a hook at the end? I've never used the phallosa bulb. If there is a hook the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words]/tlc [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] site might have a clip. What kind of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] do you have? And what's the pros on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bulb?
 
youknowme123321;607188 said:
i am trying to figure out a good way to use my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bulb with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

Just strap the silicone tube over it in the space between the bell and the pump and It will work fine, I saw some other guy around here doing the same.

~Blue.
 
Neversettle;607187 said:
My girlfriend sees me in it and bugs out thinking I'm gonna rip my cock off hahaha. But lately using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] had made my erections massively strong. I have been trying to kegel as well while in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] since I have to have a massive base too and I could have sworn I heard kegels during [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] helps

Haha! PE is a strange thing to those who don't know, good to know you have a girl that accepts your PE.
 
Blueballs;607207 said:
Just strap the silicone tube over it in the space between the bell and the pump and It will work fine, I saw some other guy around here doing the same.

~Blue.

You did not see my post I have posted my picture. Combined my x4 to my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. And also using mu [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] as lg hanger. 14 pounds I have lifted while watching tv for hours. BUT avoid water retention.
 
master_mind;607336 said:
You did not see my post I have posted my picture. Combined my x4 to my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. And also using mu [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] as lg hanger. 14 pounds I have lifted while watching tv for hours. BUT avoid water retention.

Intresting... How long are your sets and did you tried to go for16-17lbs? and how do one avoid water retention with this device? I consider getting one but the price scares me, and unlike my old [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] this has some maintanance costs that come with the replacement of the condoms and sleeves.

~Blue.
 
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Blueballs;607344 said:
Intresting... How long are your sets and did you tried to go for16-17lbs? and how do one avoid water retention with this device? I consider getting one but the price scares me, and unlike my old [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] this has some maintanance costs that come with the replacement of the condoms and sleeves.

~Blue.

Well I had water retention because i fell asleep while I was using x4 and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. I learnt one thing to do small sets and maintain blood flow with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and hanging. And then wear [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for long hours. To avoid water retention I will use a larger silicon cap for glans. I saw a modification in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to make condom sleeve. He also never pumps the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to create vaccum he just locks the pump and it works. I will start my p.e in next 4 to 5 days and will post all.
 
Blueballs;607344 said:
Intresting... How long are your sets and did you tried to go for16-17lbs? and how do one avoid water retention with this device? I consider getting one but the price scares me, and unlike my old [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] this has some maintanance costs that come with the replacement of the condoms and sleeves.

~Blue.

Check comfort modification for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] by 9inchtail you will get all answers
 
doublelongdaddy;607319 said:
Haha! PE is a strange thing to those who don't know, good to know you have a girl that accepts your PE.

Oh she still has plenty of questions still and is baffled that there are men out there who would do this. But who wouldn't want to make a better version of themselves.

So DLD I have a question bro, what is up with these 2300g tension springs, it feels like they're some mythical bigfoot lol heard about them but never seen them. I love getting intense stretches so thats why I would want better springs.

I also might need to make a change in the white [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Tugger[/words] body, sometimes just feels like I dont have the best . Do you also use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]? If so how does your white cone body fit?
 
Neversettle;607799 said:
Oh she still has plenty of questions still and is baffled that there are men out there who would do this. But who wouldn't want to make a better version of themselves.

So DLD I have a question bro, what is up with these 2300g tension springs, it feels like they're some mythical bigfoot lol heard about them but never seen them. I love getting intense stretches so thats why I would want better springs.

I also might need to make a change in the white [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Tugger[/words] body, sometimes just feels like I dont have the best . Do you also use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]? If so how does your white cone body fit?

The more powerful springs have been talked about for a while and a few men have managed to find them generically through suppliers but still there is nothing available, production wise, yet. I have talked with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] about it and it has not been forgotten, they are still working on it. Once they are are available we will have a link...maybe a month or two.
 
doublelongdaddy;607804 said:
The more powerful springs have been talked about for a while and a few men have managed to find them generically through suppliers but still there is nothing available, production wise, yet. I have talked with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] about it and it has not been forgotten, they are still working on it. Once they are are available we will have a link...maybe a month or two.

ah for sure, but in the mean time do you think these can work out well https://www.x4labs.com/acc-tension-springs.php
 
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strrreeeetch! trying to keep the tension up and steady. feeling some good stretching at my base and in my pelvic region

my ultimate pet peeve is having to pee so bad when Im in such a good stretch mode. lol
 
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Neversettle;607837 said:
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strrreeeetch! trying to keep the tension up and steady. feeling some good stretching at my base and in my pelvic region

my ultimate pet peeve is having to pee so bad when Im in such a good stretch mode. lol

Yeah but it is so quick off and on that it is not that big of a deal. I can see the enormous stretch you are getting, keep it up, stretch to the moon!
 
doublelongdaddy;607854 said:
Yeah but it is so quick off and on that it is not that big of a deal. I can see the enormous stretch you are getting, keep it up, stretch to the moon!

Yea I am trying to keep that stretch which is why I asked about if its possible to exchange X4 springs into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] instead.

One thing I have been meaning to also mention DLD is that I stretch then after my time marker I take a break, rub down, piss, etc etc, But when I go back in I am having trouble with keeping the skin I have to pushed in place so that my clear cone can stay snug and sometimes some of the skin will tug out and its not the most comfortable feeling and especially when I am increasing the tension the bars will shift the clear cone and sometimes cause some slippage. I'm not sure if that is cause for a remeasure and replace. Can you shed some light?
 
Neversettle;607861 said:
Yea I am trying to keep that stretch which is why I asked about if its possible to exchange X4 springs into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] instead.

One thing I have been meaning to also mention DLD is that I stretch then after my time marker I take a break, rub down, piss, etc etc, But when I go back in I am having trouble with keeping the skin I have to pushed in place so that my clear cone can stay snug and sometimes some of the skin will tug out and its not the most comfortable feeling and especially when I am increasing the tension the bars will shift the clear cone and sometimes cause some slippage. I'm not sure if that is cause for a remeasure and replace. Can you shed some light?

From the way it sounds you may need a new cone soon. Over time the cones may stretch out or lose elasticity so maintenance will become necessary at one point. If you can get the tension you show in the picture every time you are in the right place but if there is slippage it may be time to get a new cone.
 
doublelongdaddy;607865 said:
From the way it sounds you may need a new cone soon. Over time the cones may stretch out or lose elasticity so maintenance will become necessary at one point. If you can get the tension you show in the picture every time you are in the right place but if there is slippage it may be time to get a new cone.

Yea and I definitely don't want to go into the boo boos and bandaids section any time soon lol. What about the spring set up I mentioned, the reason I ask is because I am at the end of the screws and pistons?

x4 springs switched into my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]? Is it capable? If so I'll be ordering them extremely soon.
 
Neversettle;607869 said:
Yea and I definitely don't want to go into the boo boos and bandaids section any time soon lol. What about the spring set up I mentioned, the reason I ask is because I am at the end of the screws and pistons?

x4 springs switched into my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]? Is it capable? If so I'll be ordering them extremely soon.

I no longer have the X4 but from my memory I believe the springs are the same size, as the bars are the same size.
 
Neversettle;607869 said:
Yea and I definitely don't want to go into the boo boos and bandaids section any time soon lol. What about the spring set up I mentioned, the reason I ask is because I am at the end of the screws and pistons?

x4 springs switched into my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]? Is it capable? If so I'll be ordering them extremely soon.

You need springs tell me your address I will post free for you. In my industry i have springs and springs, from the tiny to springs used in trains.
 
doublelongdaddy;607873 said:
I no longer have the X4 but from my memory I believe the springs are the same size, as the bars are the same size.
awsome thanks DLD. Dude I just feel like Im slowly making some headway in my journey. slowly but surely :D
 
master_mind;607875 said:
You need springs tell me your address I will post free for you. In my industry i have springs and springs, from the tiny to springs used in trains.

What tension do your springs go to? the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] springs are supposed to 2300g and the x4 are 2700g. I would like springs to be stronger and produce a much stronger pull.
 
Neversettle;607886 said:
What tension do your springs go to? the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] springs are supposed to 2300g and the x4 are 2700g. I would like springs to be stronger and produce a much stronger pull.

I don't know about the g but can give you more powerful springs as I have x4 I know the power. I will give you 6 to 8 inches length around 4 lengths of various tensions. What ever suits you cut and use them.

Check miracle slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 50 usd you need no springs. I will buy that. There is a thread for that in here with a vedio.
 
I can also do hard chrome on spring or nickel coating so that it won't rust and its tension will stay for a very long time. And when ever any one else also needs them you can cut them and also help our brothers in here.

You have to pay me a cost. Your 7 pubic hair and 3 hair of your head. I need it. You keep on doing p.e and I will do black magic with you hair and steal your penis size. Loooooooooooooool. Hhahah
 
master_mind;607890 said:
I don't know about the g but can give you more powerful springs as I have x4 I know the power. I will give you 6 to 8 inches length around 4 lengths of various tensions. What ever suits you cut and use them.

Check miracle slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 50 usd you need no springs. I will buy that. There is a thread for that in here with a vedio.

Lol no need for a another [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] just better springs to replace what I have so that I can that tug and pull going. But what do you have that can be of use. can you post some pictures of the parts by chance?

And no black magic for my gains lol
 
Neversettle;608025 said:
Lol no need for a another [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] just better springs to replace what I have so that I can that tug and pull going. But what do you have that can be of use. can you post some pictures of the parts by chance?

And no black magic for my gains lol

Ok I will post pictures and will send my engineer with my x4 spring to the market so he can get full length 8 to 12 inches of the spring whose diameter will be of x4. But the tension will be more. Simple rule if you need more tension the wire used in the springs have to more thicker and of more harder quality.

Then will post you after I am satisfied with the quality if the spring.
 
master_mind;608218 said:
Ok I will post pictures and will send my engineer with my x4 spring to the market so he can get full length 8 to 12 inches of the spring whose diameter will be of x4. But the tension will be more. Simple rule if you need more tension the wire used in the springs have to more thicker and of more harder quality.

Then will post you after I am satisfied with the quality if the spring.

Looking forward to your determinations, it will be awesome to have some swap out options for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words].
 
master_mind;608394 said:
Springs is higher tension than x4. In the picture the smallest spring is of my x4.

What are the tension of the other 4 springs?
 
doublelongdaddy;608419 said:
What are the tension of the other 4 springs?

You cut them to your required size and test them with you finger for the tension. Lol . I don't know the tension.

Let me find the device to test the tension and then can tell you. My friend has a industry who only makes spring.

Besides I can get the springs made in a scientific way with proper hard chrome to avoid rust. Any g can be done 2400 2450 2700 3000.
 
master_mind;608460 said:
You cut them to your required size and test them with you finger for the tension. Lol . I don't know the tension.

Let me find the device to test the tension and then can tell you. My friend has a industry who only makes spring.

Besides I can get the springs made in a scientific way with proper hard chrome to avoid rust. Any g can be done 2400 2450 2700 3000.

Lol its like MTV's pimp my ride but this is [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] pimp my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] lol. I want spinner caps and strobe lights on my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] lol.
so lets see the tension that you can get from each of those bad boys. If the tension can be a in the 2000's just resting then that is probably going to be yielding some insane results. And in regards to cutting the springs I'm not sure that will be the most beneficial to the spring as it would be to just let it be in its normal original state maybe also try and reinforce the already current springs to see what tension it can yield.

Either way I am anxious to hear what these results will be. Please keep up informed my friend.
 
I made 3200g custom springs by adding 2 pencil springs inside the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] larger springs witch now act as 2 springs in each piston and I used a food scale to measure the tension.

~Blue.
 
Blueballs;608858 said:
I made 3200g custom springs by adding 2 pencil springs inside the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] larger springs witch now act as 2 springs in each piston and I used a food scale to measure the tension.

~Blue.

Wow that tension sounds quite intense and do you have any idea how much tension at each marker on the hex piston yields?
 
Yes, I measure all 3 and it turned out they put out 1500, 2600 and 3200g at max compression, so at first maeker I have the max factory tension. Anyway even 2600 feels outrageous, it;s too much or maybe I'm not use to it.

~Blue.
 
Blueballs;608868 said:
Yes, I measure all 3 and it turned out they put out 1500, 2600 and 3200g at max compression, so at first maeker I have the max factory tension. Anyway even 2600 feels outrageous, it;s too much or maybe I'm not use to it.

~Blue.

Do you feel the stretch becomes harder as you go up in spring tension? I mean, at what point do you think a stiffer spring would not be productive?
 
3200 feels way to much tension and it's painfull after 30mins or so, usually I can wear it at 1500 for 2-3 hours with the velcro. I belive that going up in tension is only necesary if you feel you hit a plateou at lower tensions like 1200-1500. For me 2000 feels like the perfect amount but I use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 10 months at 1500, I belive that for someone that never used an ectender will be too much.

However... I wonder if higher tension for lower time under tension will produce the same plastic deformation and growth stimulation in the penis as longer sessions at lower tension, for example 2h at 3000g vs 4h at 1500. I think that if can get the same plastic deformation post workout with both sessions(for me was around +0.2 fsl after 5h at 1500) we can conclude that this stands true.

~Blue.
 
Blueballs;609007 said:
3200 feels way to much tension and it's painfull after 30mins or so, usually I can wear it at 1500 for 2-3 hours with the velcro. I belive that going up in tension is only necesary if you feel you hit a plateou at lower tensions like 1200-1500. For me 2000 feels like the perfect amount but I use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 10 months at 1500, I belive that for someone that never used an ectender will be too much.

However... I wonder if higher tension for lower time under tension will produce the same plastic deformation and growth stimulation in the penis as longer sessions at lower tension, for example 2h at 3000g vs 4h at 1500. I think that if can get the same plastic deformation post workout with both sessions(for me was around +0.2 fsl after 5h at 1500) we can conclude that this stands true.

~Blue.

Oh yea I would like to stay at 1500 without a shadow of a doubt, its just when I am in my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG attachment I go to 1500 and then the next thing I know its eases up tension decreases and I then I cant increase my tension without taking it off adding bars going through the shpeel of the putting it back on and off, Which is why I am so interested in increasing my resting point of tension so that it will be starting at 1500 instead of 900, because in all honesty I dont feel any reall tug or pull until I go to 1500, the other two settings just feel like nothing at all.

If you are up to it I'd say challenge yourself to test out that theory, do your usual routine and then implement a 2H's at 3000 after every 4H's at 1500 or for every two sets of 4H's at 1500 you do one 2H's at 3000. See what results you can yield.

Your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] guides to progression and stretching for newbies is detailed and I think if this can yield good results and provide a better stretch it can be almost an intermediate stretching routine for those who seek the more intense stretching routine.

Im waiting for my x4 labs springs to come in and see what I can create with these bad boys, if I like it and see a plateau maybe then I'll do what you did and try to compile the springs from pens or pencils and intensify that routine.
 
If you're feeling hat 1500 dosen't give you significant stress levels(most men will stop seeing gains with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] after 8-14 months) there are other things you can do, first off add heat into the ecuation to speed up plastic deformation of tissues, this link will explain why that is important: https://iit.edu/arc/workshops/pdfs/MaterialsCreep.pdf

Seccond, use different strech position, bundeled and v-streches using a pen or something similar to create a fulctrum at the middle of the penis will dramatically increass the stress.. basically any strech position that your penis has not experienced before will kick-start your gains again.

~Blue.
 
Blueballs;609381 said:
If you're feeling hat 1500 dosen't give you significant stress levels(most men will stop seeing gains with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] after 8-14 months) there are other things you can do, first off add heat into the ecuation to speed up plastic deformation of tissues, this link will explain why that is important: https://iit.edu/arc/workshops/pdfs/MaterialsCreep.pdf

Seccond, use different strech position, bundeled and v-streches using a pen or something similar to create a fulctrum at the middle of the penis will dramatically increass the stress.. basically any strech position that your penis has not experienced before will kick-start your gains again.

~Blue.

I feel the stretch at 1500g but for some reason the tension when increased to 1500 for some reason goes back to somewhere between 900-1200 and my stretch doesnt feel as intense so I have to increase not on the pistons but my hex thumb screws to max out and then I feel the stretch again but it becomes flimsy feeling and don't want the screw to pop out the hex piston.
 
That's because your connective tissue is deforming under the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] and it's the fundamental principle under the light-traction/long-duration streching devices(extenders) and the normal thing you should experince when using it. In other words YOU'RE GAINING DUDE.

The ideea is to start at 1500 and check tension every 15-20mins or so and increase it if the penis got more loose and turn up the tension to 1500 and continue to do so until the end of the set. Once you see the threads of the screws comming out of the hexagonal chamber it's a sign that's time to add another 0.25" bar and continue he process.. That's how you use an extener the right way, it's not rocket sience but very few man get it right.

~Blue.
 
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Blueballs;609391 said:
That's because your connective tissue is deforming under the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] and it's the fundamental principle under the light-traction/long-duration streching devices(extenders) and the normal thing you should experince when using it. In other words YOU'RE GAINING DUDE.

The ideea is to start at 1500 and check tension every 15-20mins or so and increase it if the penis got more loose and turn up the tension to 1500 and continue to do so until the end of the set. Once you see the threads of the screws comming out of the hexagonal chamber it's a sign that's time to add another 0.25" bar and continue he process.. That's how you use an extener the right way, it's not rocket sience but very few man get it right.

~Blue.

I start with both long rods and then use the .25 and then the .5.

So that just means its time to purchase some more rods as well since I have used my .25 already and then my .5. Yea I just have to stay up and continue my stretching and my extending. Gaining is one thing I just want to continue. Yea I just hate having to screw the hex screws to that extent, but it means making gains and opening the doorway to more length then so be it
 
So my X4 Lab springs came in. And they are quite a bit more stiff then the stock [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] springs. I only was able to play with them in my hands yesterday and assemble it into my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and test tension since I had to go to sleep earlier for work. But I will definitely be trying these bad boys out and I'm hoping I can still add my close to usual bars and keep my tension between the "1200" and "1500" markers which will be approximately 1800-2700g of tension. Yep I can see the gains now. :)

I'll make sure to post pictures when I get home of the springs and the device assembled and in used.
 
Neversettle;610221 said:
So my X4 Lab springs came in. And they are quite a bit more stiff then the stock [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] springs. I only was able to play with them in my hands yesterday and assemble it into my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and test tension since I had to go to sleep earlier for work. But I will definitely be trying these bad boys out and I'm hoping I can still add my close to usual bars and keep my tension between the "1200" and "1500" markers which will be approximately 1800-2700g of tension. Yep I can see the gains now. :)

I'll make sure to post pictures when I get home of the springs and the device assembled and in used.

Cool, it will be interesting to hear how different they are but even more I would like to know how even stiffer springs would work. I think at a point they would become too stiff. People have been talking about 10,000 g springs and I do not think these would work due to stiffness. I guess what I am trying to figure out is at what point would the stiffness be too much.
 
I have been having trouble with my white [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] body of the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] so I may need a slight resizing or possibly some more stretching previous to using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words].
Here are the springs I have, the one on the bottom is the original [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] spring and the one on the top is the x4 labs. significant tension difference just using my fingers. I am anxious to use the new springs and see what gains may come and at what the difference in timeframe would be.

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