Masturbation is counterproductive

masturbation +a negative state of mind =poor gains.

masturbation can have a negative effect when we jack our dicks off 3x a day or something..
 
kyomoto;676692 said:
If I did my length workout with the 3x-4x masturbation then I would see no results because masturbation counters the reaction of length gaining. Thats why I did it without length exercise. What you propose doesn't make any sense and how it would validate my point. Doing length training and masturbating you wont see the actual truth. You can only see the truth when you stop doing the length and notice a loss of gains due to masturbation.
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Many men report making gains while doing length and ejaculation regularly. A study size of only one is to small to say with any validity that masturbation is counterproductive and to share that information like it is fact. And if a person has never masturbated 3-4x/week and done length exercises at the same time it is impossible to know for certain if masturbation is counterproductive to their gains b/c like I said many men have reported losing size after stopping length work no matter how much they masturbate. In this case one could simply conclude that it is counterproductive to length gains to not perform length work.
 
shortdick;676694 said:
masturbation can have a negative effect when we jack our dicks off 3x a day or something..
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maybe, maybe not. Some men masturbate to weaken their tissue to allow for better stretching. PE gains are to individualized and to many men report different results to say with any certainty that masturbation halts or reverses gains
 
huge-girth;676721 said:
Shortdick you and I will have to quit masturbation for one month. Are you ready?
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Ohhh shit big balls over here gentlemen
 
Throw a rock in a pigpen, and the pig who squeals is the one you hit
 
huge-girth;676721 said:
Shortdick you and I will have to quit masturbation for one month. Are you ready?
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Count me in too.No masturbation today,not planning on ejaculating this month :)
 
youknowme123321;676697 said:
Many men report making gains while doing length and ejaculation regularly. A study size of only one is to small to say with any validity that masturbation is counterproductive and to share that information like it is fact. And if a person has never masturbated 3-4x/week and done length exercises at the same time it is impossible to know for certain if masturbation is counterproductive to their gains b/c like I said many men have reported losing size after stopping length work no matter how much they masturbate. In this case one could simply conclude that it is counterproductive to length gains to not perform length work.
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Yeah and the reason for your first statement, in response, is because those people who report regular ejaculation with gains is due to the intensity being more than the possibility of losing gains. I'll update my first post to make it easier to understand this. And of course a study of 1 is not enough. I'd like for you guys to test this yourself. No length exercises for 1-2 months, wack it 3-4 times a week and tell me. It's also just one of my beliefs that I tested so yeah.

I never said it was a fact I have said several times it is my opinion and my belief.

Listen if you stop doing PE one day and wait for a month, you're not going to lose gains. It takes around 3-4 months for that to show. It's a possible factor but masturbation quickens that process.

ChilDsh;676738 said:
Count me in too.No masturbation today,not planning on ejaculating this month :)
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I'm doing a 6 month no masturbation period. Good luck to you guys!



I clarified my post so people have a better understanding of what I mean.
 
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This may be a bit off topic, but masturbation itself is probably a human perversion that is not intended to be done. Ejaculation is intended to be inside a woman. The longer one goes without ejaculation the more desire he will have to find a woman to mate with. For all of you out there with no gf, I think not masturbating can lead to good things even if it doesn't effect PE gains.
 
boohoohoo;676783 said:
This may be a bit off topic, but masturbation itself is probably a human perversion that is not intended to be done. Ejaculation is intended to be inside a woman. The longer one goes without ejaculation the more desire he will have to find a woman to mate with. For all of you out there with no gf, I think not masturbating can lead to good things even if it doesn't effect PE gains.
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It is off/on topic. I'm not saying everyone should stop masturbating and everything you know? All I did was a test to see if masturbation was counterproductive. For me it was. And I wanted you guys to test this as well. I'm not here to force people to think like me or force people to believe what I believe. I just want people to have an open mind and consider this as a possiblity, let them do the research, test it, and see if they want to continue masturbating daily or keeping it to a minimum. I'm just here to inform brother. Not here to force beliefs.
 
kyomoto;676788 said:
It is off/on topic. I'm not saying everyone should stop masturbating and everything you know? All I did was a test to see if masturbation was counterproductive. For me it was. And I wanted you guys to test this as well. I'm not here to force people to think like me or force people to believe what I believe. I just want people to have an open mind and consider this as a possiblity, let them do the research, test it, and see if they want to continue masturbating daily or keeping it to a minimum. I'm just here to inform brother. Not here to force beliefs.
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Everyone will find what works best for them. Masturbation can be a huge killer of motivation if not respected properly. Too much adult entertainment will desensitize the mind and cause a huge lack of libido. Discipline needs to be used and if you do not have discipline you will need to work on it. Masturbation for me is always post-cursor to girth work. Once a day is fine for me, especially after hours of holding an erection!
 
huge-girth;676721 said:
Shortdick you and I will have to quit masturbation for one month. Are you ready?
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One month dec 3 to jan 3 ok lets do it hope i can make it...:blush: but just want you to know im not promising anything here ok?
 
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youknowme123321;676698 said:
maybe, maybe not. Some men masturbate to weaken their tissue to allow for better stretching. PE gains are to individualized and to many men report different results to say with any certainty that masturbation halts or reverses gains
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maybe but i have realized that penis gets rubbery when i do it more than twice a day..IMO but as you have stated can help to really weak the tissue n turn the penis into a more malleable state....
 
kyomoto;676771 said:
Yeah and the reason for your first statement, in response, is because those people who report regular ejaculation with gains is due to the intensity being more than the possibility of losing gains. I'll update my first post to make it easier to understand this. And of course a study of 1 is not enough. I'd like for you guys to test this yourself. No length exercises for 1-2 months, wack it 3-4 times a week and tell me. It's also just one of my beliefs that I tested so yeah.

I never said it was a fact I have said several times it is my opinion and my belief.

Listen if you stop doing PE one day and wait for a month, you're not going to lose gains. It takes around 3-4 months for that to show. It's a possible factor but masturbation quickens that process.



I'm doing a 6 month no masturbation period. Good luck to you guys!



I clarified my post so people have a better understanding of what I mean.
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OK I see where you're coming from now. I previously felt like you were sharing your info as pretty solid fact. And I didn't see your sentence in post #1, "Of course this was a test I did myself and perhaps your experience is different" the first time I read through it. I think your thread title "masturbating is counterproductive" probably set my mind to thinking you were discussing this as fact as I first began to read. If it had said "masturbation can be counterproductive" my initial thought process may have been different.

And I don't feel anyone can say with certainty that the men who report making gains while masturbating regularly only did so b/c of length workout intensity being enough to overcome their masturbation intensity. That would take a giant study to be able to determine with any sort of validity and to many individual variables exist to determine that anyways.

Good edits to the first post. Appreciated.
 
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shortdick;676806 said:
maybe but i have realized that penis gets rubbery when i do it more than twice a day..IMO but as you have stated can help to really weak the tissue n turn the penis into a more malleable state....
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Yeah I've read of men experiencing that as well. Some men like it b/c they feel it makes them more responsive to PE and others feel the opposite. DO you like to jerk off right before a stretching or hanging session? I do. I feel I get fatigued more quickly and it feels as though I am getting a better stretch. I rarely jerk off before PE though b/c I'm not that into it anymore. I prefer sex or getting jerked off by my massage therapist.
 
youknowme123321;676818 said:
OK I see where you're coming from now. I previously felt like you were sharing your info as pretty solid fact. And I didn't see your sentence in post #1, "Of course this was a test I did myself and perhaps your experience is different" the first time I read through it. I think your thread title "masturbating is counterproductive" probably set my mind to thinking you were discussing this as fact as I first began to read. If it had said "masturbation can be counterproductive" my initial thought process may have been different.

And I don't feel anyone can say with certainty that the men who report making gains while masturbating regularly only did so b/c of length workout intensity being enough to overcome their masturbation intensity. That would take a giant study to be able to determine with any sort of validity and to many individual variables exist to determine that anyways.

Good edits to the first post. Appreciated.
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Yeah we need a bigger study. I just wanted to try it myself to see what happened. I'd like to get more information on this though.
 
youknowme123321;676819 said:
Yeah I've read of men experiencing that as well. Some men like it b/c they feel it makes them more responsive to PE and others feel the opposite. DO you like to jerk off right before a stretching or hanging session? I do. I feel I get fatigued more quickly and it feels as though I am getting a better stretch. I rarely jerk off before PE though b/c I'm not that into it anymore. I prefer sex or getting jerked off by my massage therapist.
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yep i do jerk off before my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] session cause is better whit a totally flaccid penis,if i dont the penis gets engorged n its kinda painful.

having a therapist like yours sounds great how do you get that :)
 
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