LG Hanger review

[coogi]

Hey guys just got the LG hanger and thought I would put a quick review up!

First off i've been in Penis Enlargement for about 7-8 months, I started off with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] (which was a pain the ass) logged over 400 hours over 4 months and saw minimal gains, then plateaued in FSL, which was the only thing I gained no EL, and it was fucking up my dick with the circulation issues. then for the next 3 months have used only a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words].

For those who dont know the lg hanger is a new type of vacuum hanger, like the grip sytem which uses a vacuum. I had considered purchasing the grip system, and wrote them a few emails but the customer service was so bad, the replies were written in slang; "wat exactly u want 2 kno", someone named shannon, anyway put me off completely. Aside from that I have also heard from Kingsnake that the sleeves wear out very fast and costs a lot to keep ordering. So I just recently purchased the LG hanger, first off Dr Richard (creator) super friendly replied to all the emails, and answered my questions personally, which is pretty cool considering hes the maker. The shipping was fast even to New Zealand, about 4 days, it came in a plain box with the details on the front and the item description as "medical device" which was cool. every item was separate in a sealable bag wrapped in bubble wrap. I ordered the package A with every thing you need, the pump, the sleeve, bands, starter weight, the hanger, instructions are sent via email, and when you order make a note through paypal (instructions to seller) your ERECT girth taken directly under the glans.

The first I used it was the first time I have hung, I didnt wrap my glans as dr ric advises for the first 4 weeks, as its at low vacuum, I used 5 HG then attacthed the weight to make about 7 HGs of pressure. I had an extremely comfortable, 3 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] mins set of hanging with big glans, when I came out flaccid, as the LG hanger opposed to the bib or regular hangers expands the glans to create the friction to keep it on. Fluid retention was low even for no wrapping too, and no signs of blister or anything like that. So my first impressions are an effective, very comfortable way to apply a tension to your penis, and I love the device. Each one is made to order, and lathed from a single piece of hard poly whatever (not sure of the scientific name!), obviously being made from a sinlge piece as opposed to couple of items attached together, I beleive, greatly increases the hanger dome durability and strength. To put it on (without wrap) takes about 30secs - 1 minute. Taking it off is a bit of a pain but not that much (mostly the silicone sleeve which can pinch your skin)

Now as far as I see it there are two downsides, 1 the price, as most guys will know though when you are starting a new business it takes a while to setup supply lines, find cheap supplies, refine your construction, and ultimately reduce your costs, I hope in time, these reductions in costs will be passed on to us the customers. and number two, resizing, once you grow you need to get your hanger resized so you can fit. Solution may be, having something to insert, so you can order a bigger, hanger, and then take these inserts out as you grow. I'm not a hanger designer so i'm just brainstorming here. Or just focusing on your length, and you once you reach your length goals, girth work from there on.

Personally though I love the hanger, its perfect for me, hanging BTC on the edge of my bed before work, watching breaking bad, ufc or whatever your into. I couldn't be happier with it as I could never use a bib or something like that, my penis, just ins't built for it.

For those interested I have posted the link below, as a side note dr ric said he would be coming to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] soon, I hope he and DLD can arrange a discount for members, for the package a and B, resizing and for ordering other products, as I really want other guys to try this hanger.

Thank guys

http://www.yourpenisdoctor.com/lg-hanger-a-technological-leap-forward-in-penis-hanging/

 

[Baba_Booey]

I've been using the LG for a few months and it's definitely the best Penis Enlargement tool I've used.

I'm doing fulcrum hanging 2 sets a day, each set is 1 hour, and I'm using over 13 lbs. No blisters, just a really comfortable hanging experience.

@coogi At first I experienced the silicone pinching the skin, but it's because I was pulling the silicone onto the dome, then pulling it down onto my shaft, which is what the instructions say. To avoid the pinching, simply roll the silicone onto the dome like a condom, enter the dome and press your glans against the back of the dome, pull back any excess skin to keep it from being bunched up, then roll the silicone down. I then fold the silicone down over itself a little to help keep a seal. When I take it off, I unfold the part I had folded over itself, then roll the sleeve up like a condom and it easily comes off.

 

[coogi]

hey baba booey thanks for the info, and yeah the hanger is very good, could you please tell me how you wrap your glans for the LG? im circumsized by the way and having a bit of trouble with it. Thank in advance

 

[Baba_Booey]

I copied this from a post I put on Penis EnlargementGym and made a few changes. After using the hanger for a little while I learned a few little things that have helped me.

I wrap with a 3" x 8" piece of Co-Flex and it works great; I got a case of it on Amazon. I just start a little below my circumcision scar (this leaves some wrap going past the end of my glans), wrap horizontally, then fold the extra at the end down to protect the meatus and squeeze so the wrap adheres to itself.

I'm always completely flaccid when I wrap and attach the hanger, so you don't need to be erect at all. The vacuum will draw blood into the glans unless you're using a wrap that doesn't allow this to happen.

Here's what I do: I wrap, roll the silicone onto the dome, press my glans against the end of the dome, pull back any excess skin, roll the silicone down onto my shaft, fold the silicone over itself a little, attach the pump, slowly pump up to 10 hg (allowing the glans to adjust to the vacuum), remove the pump, then attach the weight slowly.

Usually, the glans will slightly pull away from the end of the dome (probably the glans is still adjusting to the vacuum). When this happens, I remove the weight, reattach the pump, pump up to 10 hg again, remove the pump, and attach the weight again. Then, it usually holds very well, if not, I repeat until it does.

 

[coogi]

awesome thanks a lot baba booey and rnizza

 

[KingD]

Thanks alot for posting about your experience with the.LG Hanger. Ever since Max-Vac stopped producing their vaccum hanger, I was wondering where they could.be purchased now. I believe the creators split ways and the owner of the Max-Vac site started gearing towatds strictly surgical penis enlargement while the partner wanted to go towards a more natural route.

 

[coogi]

just an update guys

still using the lg and seeing great results, im now up to hanging 6.8 pounds with ease and comfort.

I still havent got any blisters from vac hanging and ive done back to back 90 minute sets and 4 1 hour sets with over 5 pounds. the wrap is very important though, but extremely easy particularly in comparison to wrapping for a bib or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].

i'll update again when i'm hanging 10 pounds.

 

[longstretch]

Thanks for the review. I know its early into being released and you don't have much experience, but I think thats what gives this thread so much potential. We'll be able to see how you grow and adapt using a specific hanger. I have experience with the Max-Vac and have just bought The Grip. I'm currently slowly getting back into Penis Enlargement but I do plan on starting to hang again in maybe 3 months. If the Grip doesn't work out I might see how the LG Hanger works on down the road and I think this thread will help others make an informative decision. Getting the right setup and wrap, especially with vacuum hangers, can take some time and experimentation. I wish all the best for you

You can view my setup on page 4 of my journal here Stretch For the Stars... Land in the Cul De Sac!!! Page 4
The best way I learned to tape might have been from Penis Enlargement gym I can't remember exactly where I got the idea but its on page 5 with pictures on page 6.

Once I got the setup and taping down I was able to hang better all around. More time, more weight, more comfortably, with little to no fluid buildup.

 

[Baba_Booey]

Here is my LG routine:

Set 1:
30 mins over a 1.5” PVC fulcrum (positioned behind the balls)
15 mins standing with weight straight down and swinging front to back
30 mins fulcrum

Set 2:
Same as Set #1

This gives me 14 hours per week over a fulcrum and 3.5 hours per week SD swinging. 17.5 total hanging hours per week.

I start with about 16 lbs 6 oz and reduce the weight by 1 lb whenever I hit fatigue. After a day where I no longer reach fatigue in the first 30 mins, I’ll increase by an ounce or two the next day. I have fishing weights, which is a great way to slowly increase the weight.

A month ago I don't think I was hitting fatigue at all, so I wasn’t expecting to make any gains. Now that I've begun hitting fatigue, I expect to start gaining, but I’m sure it will be a slow process since I’ve already gained 2+ inches over the years. No idea what rate I’ll gain at, but I’m planning to stick with this routine for at least a few months and see where I am.

 

[coogi]

Thanks for the review. I know its early into being released and you don't have much experience, but I think thats what gives this thread so much potential. We'll be able to see how you grow and adapt using a specific hanger. I have experience with the Max-Vac and have just bought The Grip. I'm currently slowly getting back into Penis Enlargement but I do plan on starting to hang again in maybe 3 months. If the Grip doesn't work out I might see how the LG Hanger works on down the road and I think this thread will help others make an informative decision. Getting the right setup and wrap, especially with vacuum hangers, can take some time and experimentation. I wish all the best for you

You can view my setup on page 4 of my journal here Stretch For the Stars... Land in the Cul De Sac!!! Page 4
The best way I learned to tape might have been from Penis Enlargement gym I can't remember exactly where I got the idea but its on page 5 with pictures on page 6.

Once I got the setup and taping down I was able to hang better all around. More time, more weight, more comfortably, with little to no fluid buildup.

Hey long stretch I actually have a detailed progress thread

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?80560-Coogi-s-hanging-amp-pumping-progress-thread

Probably the best place to see any progress I make. Im in week 9 now and I've missed only 1 day of hanging so far. Cant wait to reach my goals.

 

[Zambrodom3]

So how did these few months using the LG hanger go? Interested!

 

[coogi]

So how did these few months using the LG hanger go? Interested!

.125 inch gain in BPenis EnlargementL for 1.5 months hanging, check out the link above your post Zam its all there

 

[DLD]

.125 inch gain in BPenis EnlargementL for 1.5 months hanging, check out the link above your post Zam its all there

AWESOME! 12 months for an inch! I will take a large order please!

 

[DLD]

.125 inch gain in BPenis EnlargementL for 1.5 months hanging, check out the link above your post Zam its all there

AWESOME! 12 months for an inch! I will take a large order please!

 

[Zambrodom3]

AWESOME! 12 months for an inch! I will take a large order please!

rofl! This device gets me more and more interested since I heard that it provides the most comfortable hanging sessions ever and an awesome grip (vaccum pumping) as well. I'd love to hear poeple that have been using different devices as well. But I guess what keeps me off the most is the fact that the device should be changed (replaced) every 1-2 months or so (as coogi already said).

 

[coogi]

rofl! This device gets me more and more interested since I heard that it provides the most comfortable hanging sessions ever and an awesome grip (vaccum pumping) as well. I'd love to hear poeple that have been using different devices as well. But I guess what keeps me off the most is the fact that the device should be changed (replaced) every 1-2 months or so (as coogi already said).

Hey zam i never said it has to be replaced every 1-2 months, i said that if you gain in girth you might not fit in the Hanger anymore, because the size is set. If you dont gain more than say .5 inches of girth then you dont need to change it, you could use it forever. So far i still fit in it with ease and haven't outgrown it. The sleeve is only replaceable part that might need to be replaced, i have two, and have only used one for my entire hanging time, and its still fine. I would say the sleeves would last for 6 months or so of consistent hanging but thats only an estimation.

However with the resizing issue, you can either postpone girth work, or do less, or wrap tighter to reduce your circumference so can fit easier, or you could add .1 inches to the measurement you provide to them (that what i did), that way your hanger is slightly bigger.

So point is it doesn't need to be replaced every couple of months

Additionally the only other mainstream vac hanger that i know of is the grip system and I stated my opinion and kingsnakes recent opinion at the top

Hope that helps Zam, hanging requires time, privacy, a comfortable environment and a means of entertainment, tv, ps3, computer, is how i do it, And four hours of lying on back BTC flys by and isnt laborious at all. i think the key with pe is that is doesnt feel like hard work, its so easy for me, i'm not desperate for gains, this way its easier to see it through and hang everyday. Get the LG hanger if it fits to your life.

 

[Zambrodom3]

Great! Thanks for the advices. Yes, the resizing was my only problem with it since it is quite expensive, but I guess that is not that bog of a problem. You feel the hanging session comfortable right?

 

[longstretch]

Thanks Coogi. I really hope the sleeves don't wear out too fast on the Grip. I know I'm not ready to jump into hanging but it will suck if when I am I'm replacing the sleeves every month. I don't know if you could get replacement sleeves from http://www.absilicone.com/ but I sure hope so.

 

[Baba_Booey]

My last sleeve lasted about 2 months, but it depends on amount of time and amount of weight. I currently do 2.5 hours per day and I'm getting close to 17 lbs, so mine will wear out faster than the average user. Extra silicone sleeves are $24, but these are 8" long, which I cut in half. That means I'm paying $6 per month, which is well within reason for what I'm getting.

The sleeves on the Grip System are really thin and need to be changed much more frequently. Combine that with the fact that the Grip can't easily handle more than 8 lbs, and there's absolutely no reason to buy the Grip over the LG.

The LG has been by far the best piece of Penis Enlargement equipment I've ever used, and I've tried almost everything.

I get better fatigue with the LG than I’ve ever gotten with manual stretches, jelqing, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], air pumping, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], Grip System, or Bib hanger. This just feels totally different.

 

[coogi]

Great! Thanks for the advices. Yes, the resizing was my only problem with it since it is quite expensive, but I guess that is not that bog of a problem. You feel the hanging session comfortable right?

Yes hanging with the LG is very comfortable.

 

[coogi]

ok quick update hanging 11 pounds now or a 5 kg plate. quite a milestone for me. still very comfortable the only thing I would like to add is that if you hang you need an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. Hanging without and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is just like going to the gym and working out, but then not having a good meal after or a good sleep, i.e. gains are harder to make. Getting the ESL40 has push me [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]pa[/words] ssed a plateau I had and i am now pushing just over 7 BPenis EnlargementL! i'm super happy about that by the way

 

[coogi]

another update here, hanging 13 pounds currently, I had some problems with seperation and got to a point where no matter what I did I couldnt hold any amount of weight for extended periods, so I made a couple changes, first I used a new sleeve, the old one I had used 3 months + so I think it wasnt sealing very well anymore, its very pliable but not torn. then I used teflon tape on the valve thread to increase the circumference to help prevent any suction loss and made a few other tweaks (adding a small square of toilet paper to absorb any fluid from urethra) now have zero separation and hanging 13 pounds with ease.

Just a note, poor technique with hanging (bib or vac) will only get you so far, you have to adjust your technique, and improve in order to keep going up in weight and hang longer sets more often. Bad technique will only get you so far, before you have to improve, or drop down in weight / set duration. Unfortunately though you only reaslise the things you could do better when you get to these higher weights, when they cause problems.

 

[Baba_Booey]

I had to increase the amount of vacuum as I got into higher weights. I always pumped up to 10 hg, but I eventually reached a weight that caused pullback from the end of the dome. Currently, I pump up to 15.5 hg and it holds my starting weight (more than 19 lbs) just fine.

I use teflon tape too, but I don't think my hanger actually needed it; seemed to seal fine before.

 

[8incyclops]

Update?

 

[coogi]

Update?

OK update time, so I have taken a break from hanging, it was putting a bit of stress on my relationship as it is a time commitment, I don't think i'm going to do anything more than light pe while i'm in a relationship. the main reason however was that just after the last update I posted, after I had a hard time holding weight I went straight back into it with about 6 kg, and after about an hour set I took the hanger off and had blood on the inside of my wrap from my urethra, I peed after that and it was clear, no more signs of blood, so the next day I hung again and it was uncomfortable, usually this is never the case with the LG in my experience, but my glans were painful. So I stopped hanging and decided to let it heal, on top of that it was around christmas time that this happened so I was busy with family stuff, and I honestly haven't a spare minute since.

all in all my Hanging time took me from a BPenis EnlargementL of 6.75 to 7.125-7.25 (everything after the 7 though was uncemented and lost), i'm now at 7 BPenis EnlargementL. One thing to note I think you are pissing in the wind if you dont hang and use some kind of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] frequently, my gains sped up pretty dramatically using my ESL40 although I dont beleive it to be the best [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].

 

[truant]

OK update time, so I have taken a break from hanging, it was putting a bit of stress on my relationship as it is a time commitment, I don't think i'm going to do anything more than light pe while i'm in a relationship. the main reason however was that just after the last update I posted, after I had a hard time holding weight I went straight back into it with about 6 kg, and after about an hour set I took the hanger off and had blood on the inside of my wrap from my urethra, I peed after that and it was clear, no more signs of blood, so the next day I hung again and it was uncomfortable, usually this is never the case with the LG in my experience, but my glans were painful. So I stopped hanging and decided to let it heal, on top of that it was around christmas time that this happened so I was busy with family stuff, and I honestly haven't a spare minute since.

all in all my Hanging time took me from a BPenis EnlargementL of 6.75 to 7.125-7.25 (everything after the 7 though was uncemented and lost), i'm now at 7 BPenis EnlargementL. One thing to note I think you are pissing in the wind if you dont hang and use some kind of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] frequently, my gains sped up pretty dramatically using my ESL40 although I dont beleive it to be the best [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].

The lg hanger sounds interesting I'll check it out.

On a different note referring back to your DMSO/PABA thread. You mentioned getting a perfect mixture. Did you ever obtain that again?

 

[8incyclops]

Coogi was that hanging btc or straight out?

 

[coogi]

Coogi was that hanging btc or straight out?

all of my sets were BTC, I have a pretty sweet setup where I can lay on the edge of my bed and hang. BTC kind of sucks in that you cant move around like SD but if you have solid means of entertainment that can make time fly, its easy. I really cant stress enough though how important it is to try and make time fly while hanging BTC, because of that i'm not reluctant at all to return to hanging at some time.

@truant In the end what I did was stop mixing DMSO PABA and just used 70/30 DMSO on my dick, and I took oral PABA. I never really hit that absorption sweet spot when I was mixing, but I think just adding a lttle bit of PABA to the DMSO would be fine i.e. before saturation. Also something that annoyed me was that becasue it was liquid it was harder to apply than a DMSO cream, but the only creams they sell are in plastic jars, which is a big no no. I'm thinking now that buying a 100% DMSO gel, then adding PABA, and diluting it a bit with something natural or beneficial to pe, that also has thick consistency, would make a DMSO cream/gel that would be easy to apply, not be 100% concentrated and burn your dick, and also absorb well.

and yeah the LG is solid, the fact that you cant vary the size like you can with a bib is a downside, and the price is a downside, but you dont have to take breaks every 20 mins, and its way more comfortable, less time with wrapping etc

 

[8incyclops]

People still use the dmso from plastic bottles on other parts of their bodies It shouldn't hurt that much really I mean we eat and drink out of plastic containers everyday.

 

[Vetiver]

People still use the dmso from plastic bottles on other parts of their bodies It shouldn't hurt that much really I mean we eat and drink out of plastic containers everyday.

The important thing is, we're putting this compound onto our dicks, and it's best to cover your ass by purchasing laboratory grade DMSO. The stuff you buy in the plastic bottles, and even some glass products aren't always certified 99% DMSO. With stuff like this, always go with the best quality and do research, don't want to take risks with your health.

 

[truant]

all of my sets were BTC, I have a pretty sweet setup where I can lay on the edge of my bed and hang. BTC kind of sucks in that you cant move around like SD but if you have solid means of entertainment that can make time fly, its easy. I really cant stress enough though how important it is to try and make time fly while hanging BTC, because of that i'm not reluctant at all to return to hanging at some time.

@truant In the end what I did was stop mixing DMSO PABA and just used 70/30 DMSO on my dick, and I took oral PABA. I never really hit that absorption sweet spot when I was mixing, but I think just adding a lttle bit of PABA to the DMSO would be fine i.e. before saturation. Also something that annoyed me was that becasue it was liquid it was harder to apply than a DMSO cream, but the only creams they sell are in plastic jars, which is a big no no. I'm thinking now that buying a 100% DMSO gel, then adding PABA, and diluting it a bit with something natural or beneficial to pe, that also has thick consistency, would make a DMSO cream/gel that would be easy to apply, not be 100% concentrated and burn your dick, and also absorb well.

and yeah the LG is solid, the fact that you cant vary the size like you can with a bib is a downside, and the price is a downside, but you dont have to take breaks every 20 mins, and its way more comfortable, less time with wrapping etc

I just got off the phone with the guy at the lab that sells the DMSO. I origionally ordered the 70% solution in the glass bottle.

I asked if the gel would be better or if the strongerr ones like the 90 or 99 would be better for saturation rate. He said the gel really doesn't do anything and that the 70% is really the best they have and you don't need to dilute it any further it's safe to put on the skin. What you did coogi so I guess your onto somthing.

He didn't really know much about mixing PABA but he said the 70 solution is ok to put directly on the skin cause they dilute it already.

I already ordered the PABA and it shipped (250g) so I might return it if I find out I don't even need to mix it and I might just get oral PABA.

What do you guys think should I return the power to pure bulk and just get oral PABA? Also what's a good brand? Thanks

Oh your comparing the lg to the bib ok. What do you think about hanging with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]? Is it worth it to get the bib or lg if you had a choice?

 

[coogi]

@cyclops the thing that is important to note is that DMSO is a powerful solvent, and will break down the plastic container, so its a bit different from food or water in plastic (I try to only drink out of glass but im not really anal about it) on top of that DMSO will carry whatever is inside it through your skin and body into the bloodstream, tissues etc

@truant the LG is great in its own right, so is the bib, they are just the two hangers I would get out of all of the other ones, so I like to compare them. I think if you're going to buy either, you're going to gain. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] (length master?) i'm not sure, but I think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] has less surface area that it uses to clamps too the penis compared to the bib starter, which I would imagine would be less comfy than a bib. I wasn't really able to see pics of it though, can you link it to me?

 

[truant]

@cyclops the thing that is important to note is that DMSO is a powerful solvent, and will break down the plastic container, so its a bit different from food or water in plastic (I try to only drink out of glass but im not really anal about it) on top of that DMSO will carry whatever is inside it through your skin and body into the bloodstream, tissues etc

@truant the LG is great in its own right, so is the bib, they are just the two hangers I would get out of all of the other ones, so I like to compare them. I think if you're going to buy either, you're going to gain. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] (length master?) i'm not sure, but I think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] has less surface area that it uses to clamps too the penis compared to the bib starter, which I would imagine would be less comfy than a bib. I wasn't really able to see pics of it though, can you link it to me?

Yeah your right the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is more simple and yes it works exactly how you say just with 2 big screws and wingnuts clamped on.

I had to put more padding on it but its great and works well with the silicone sleeves.

I'm going to be using the chamber and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] for light stretching with my PABA/DMSO treatments.

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is good mostly for stretching cause theres nothing like it when it comes to that but its basic on the hanging side like coogi says just ''clamps to the penis''.

I'm actually interested in length and hanging can be one of the big factors so

I'm also considering buying a product like the LG or BIB instead of blowing it on something else so this may be a good investment.

Coogi can you point me in the right direction? The BIB or the LG?

Also what do you think about using gause to apply the DMSO and adding a douse of PABA to the soaked gause? You can anwer it in mikes thread I asked the question I believe. Thanks

 

[truant]

Got my answer on the dmso I'm just going to rub it on the clean skin cause the 70% is already diluted and safe. The PABA idk if I should ingest or not or just return.

 

[8incyclops]

Coogi would a normal pump used for penis pumps fit the lg hanger? Or do you have to buy there's?

 

[coogi]

@ truant it depends for the bib or LG, but in a word I would say the LG, with that being said however, if you could only afford the LG and nothing else, then I might recommend the bib and a good [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] like the C-flex sleeve from the gripsystem, with a few contact sleeves, and one leg pulley system. Or the LG with cheap [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] like the ESL40 or ABsilicone sleeve, etc.

@cyclops i'm not sure man, the one they gave me was just from a brake bleeder kit, with a clear hose, and a fitting on the end that fits into the LG dome valve. I guess the only important part would be that fitting, your best bet is to email dr ric howard, he'll be able to tell you more specifically

 

[8incyclops]

Tx I've got a pump and it's a pretty popular attachment

 

[coogi]

Update. my current circumstances allow for some pe for a while, so i'm back in it. As talked about before, i stopped hanging partly because it christmas and I didn't have time, and mainly because i injured myself somehow. I just hung like normal but took the wrap off and got blood coming from my urethra. After that injury it was difficult to hang, and was very uncomfortable, so i took time off for it too heal.

I started back up now, my routine is way different, I want to experiment and see what works for me. And i'm glad I did decide to experiment, as I have some interesting results so far.

My routine is 1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] mins downward tunica fulcrum hanging set at no less than 5kg (before I would hang 1-3 hours a day, i'll say later why i'm only doing 20 mins), more if i can handle it. I have a 1/2 inch diameter pvc pipe a metre long wrapped in a towel as the fulcrum, i wanted it that long so it could rest comfortably on top of my thighs, I can hang sitting down like this. I also use a hot water bottle during my set.

What i've noticed so far from this interestingly is increased girth and width, as well as length. Usually hanging btc I found that my girth was quite thin, now its the opposite. because of the fulcrum my dick gets flattened out, so fulcrum hanging could help with width, it has from my experience so far.

Additionally i'm wearing the ESL40 for 90-95% of the day every day at a lowish tension, that includes while i'm sleeping. I figure that if my penis never retracts, then i dont really need hours and hours of hanging, just one set at high weight, and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] for healing. Even wearing the ESL40 for such long periods, once 10 hours without taking it off, I get minimal swelling, and havent had a blister. i'm average height and inseam, so low tension for those who have and esl40 would be fastening the leg strap right below the knee, not on the calf. my eq is also great. i'm not really to worried with measurements this time around, if it looks huge, i'll measure, but visually i'm very happy after just 1-2 weeks of this protocol.

 

[8incyclops]

Update. my current circumstances allow for some pe for a while, so i'm back in it. As talked about before, i stopped hanging partly because it christmas and I didn't have time, and mainly because i injured myself somehow. I just hung like normal but took the wrap off and got blood coming from my urethra. After that injury it was difficult to hang, and was very uncomfortable, so i took time off for it too heal.

I started back up now, my routine is way different, I want to experiment and see what works for me. And i'm glad I did decide to experiment, as I have some interesting results so far.

My routine is 1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] mins downward tunica fulcrum hanging set at no less than 5kg (before I would hang 1-3 hours a day, i'll say later why i'm only doing 20 mins), more if i can handle it. I have a 1/2 inch diameter pvc pipe a metre long wrapped in a towel as the fulcrum, i wanted it that long so it could rest comfortably on top of my thighs, I can hang sitting down like this. I also use a hot water bottle during my set.

What i've noticed so far from this interestingly is increased girth and width, as well as length. Usually hanging btc I found that my girth was quite thin, now its the opposite. because of the fulcrum my dick gets flattened out, so fulcrum hanging could help with width, it has from my experience so far.

Additionally i'm wearing the ESL40 for 90-95% of the day every day at a lowish tension, that includes while i'm sleeping. I figure that if my penis never retracts, then i dont really need hours and hours of hanging, just one set at high weight, and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] for healing. Even wearing the ESL40 for such long periods, once 10 hours without taking it off, I get minimal swelling, and havent had a blister. i'm average height and inseam, so low tension for those who have and esl40 would be fastening the leg strap right below the knee, not on the calf. my eq is also great. i'm not really to worried with measurements this time around, if it looks huge, i'll measure, but visually i'm very happy after just 1-2 weeks of this protocol.

So just one 20 min fulcrum set and heal in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] no straight out or other angles?

 

[coogi]

thats right, just one fulcrum set a day, no other angles.

 

[FishScale]

Congrats on your gains. What is your current LOT? have you BPFSL increased as well as your BPEL? or are they just EQ gains? Do you do 1 hour sets now or still 20 minute sets. Do you wear the ESL40 with the leg strap or the chest strap? I have a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words], which is mostly for the tunica, and I stretch to the sides, is it going to make a difference in the effectivity of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] you think?

 

[coogi]

Congrats on your gains. What is your current LOT? have you BPFSL increased as well as your BPEL? or are they just EQ gains? Do you do 1 hour sets now or still 20 minute sets. Do you wear the ESL40 with the leg strap or the chest strap? I have a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words], which is mostly for the tunica, and I stretch to the sides, is it going to make a difference in the effectivity of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] you think?

Hey fishscale, i never really understood lot, I understand the basics though that if you have a high erection angle then you should hang btc (because you have potential lig gains), until you have an erection that points straight out, and then move on to upward angles and fulcrum for the tunica. I dont measure BPFSL, I used to when I had an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], because all I gained was BPFSL, i didnt gain any EL though so now I dont care about it and just measure for erect gains. just one 20 mins set a day for hanging. Leg strap for ESL40. the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] seems like a really cool device, I may get one, but a few things put me off like that you can't choose the sizes you get, I dont want to pay for the small size if i'll never fit in it, or a small condom i'll never use, and I think they need to include more condoms, then i'll get one. In my experience a combination of heavy tension on your dick for short periods (5kg+), and lighter tension for the rest of the time works best. But something like and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on it's own isn't enough to gain effectively. However If you wear the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] 24/7 I think you'll gain, and if you hang as well, I think you'll gain even better.

 

[Zambrodom3]

Hey fishscale, i never really understood lot, I understand the basics though that if you have a high erection angle then you should hang btc (because you have potential lig gains), until you have an erection that points straight out, and then move on to upward angles and fulcrum for the tunica. I dont measure BPFSL, I used to when I had an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], because all I gained was BPFSL, i didnt gain any EL though so now I dont care about it and just measure for erect gains. just one 20 mins set a day for hanging. Leg strap for ESL40. the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] seems like a really cool device, I may get one, but a few things put me off like that you can't choose the sizes you get, I dont want to pay for the small size if i'll never fit in it, or a small condom i'll never use, and I think they need to include more condoms, then i'll get one. In my experience a combination of heavy tension on your dick for short periods (5kg+), and lighter tension for the rest of the time works best. But something like and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on it's own isn't enough to gain effectively. However If you wear the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] 24/7 I think you'll gain, and if you hang as well, I think you'll gain even better.

Well the potential can be see n by 3 tests. 1- Mirror test (where you see how high you skin exit point is), 2- the palpation test (where you feel and measure from the bottom of the pubic bone to the skin exit point, and 3- LOT (where you stretch your penis lightly, having it point at 12 "o'çlock" and decrese "time". Wherever you see that when you kegel you experience no tugback (the glans getting pulled) this is your LOT). I think that is a good way to describe, but I might not have been clear enough at some places rofl.

 

[Bravo]

anyone got a max weight they have reached with the lg? could it be a contender for hard core hanging?

 

[Baba_Booey]

The mirror test is the best way to determine what angles to use; if you exit below the bottom of your pubic bone and there is an indent above your exit point, then the ligs are stretched out.

The LOT theory doesn't work for everyone, it's difficult to determine, and the parameters have changed over the years. Bib originally said that it is when there is no tugback, then changed it to the first reduction in tugback.

I don't go by the LOT theory anymore, but I learned the hard way by continuing to hang BTC after my exit point was low. My LOT still indicated that I could gain from ligament stretch, but I couldn't. The only upside to this is that my ligament gains are cemented.

I start to get a reduction in tugback at around 8:00, but my exit point is well below the bottom of my pubic bone and I have an indent above my exit point. I showed Bib a picture and he couldn't explain it, but still insists that the LOT theory is sound.

 

[Zambrodom3]

The mirror test is the best way to determine what angles to use; if you exit below the bottom of your pubic bone and there is an indent above your exit point, then the ligs are stretched out.

The LOT theory doesn't work for everyone, it's difficult to determine, and the parameters have changed over the years. Bib originally said that it is when there is no tugback, then changed it to the first reduction in tugback.

I don't go by the LOT theory anymore, but I learned the hard way by continuing to hang BTC after my exit point was low. My LOT still indicated that I could gain from ligament stretch, but I couldn't. The only upside to this is that my ligament gains are cemented.

I start to get a reduction in tugback at around 8:00, but my exit point is well below the bottom of my pubic bone and I have an indent above my exit point. I showed Bib a picture and he couldn't explain it, but still insists that the LOT theory is sound.

Well, if you showed it to him and he couldn't explain it that may be a hole in the theory- yes. But the morror test might be the most accurate one- yes

 

[FishScale]

Hey fishscale, i never really understood lot, I understand the basics though that if you have a high erection angle then you should hang btc (because you have potential lig gains), until you have an erection that points straight out, and then move on to upward angles and fulcrum for the tunica. I dont measure BPFSL, I used to when I had an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], because all I gained was BPFSL, i didnt gain any EL though so now I dont care about it and just measure for erect gains. just one 20 mins set a day for hanging. Leg strap for ESL40. the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] seems like a really cool device, I may get one, but a few things put me off like that you can't choose the sizes you get, I dont want to pay for the small size if i'll never fit in it, or a small condom i'll never use, and I think they need to include more condoms, then i'll get one. In my experience a combination of heavy tension on your dick for short periods (5kg+), and lighter tension for the rest of the time works best. But something like and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on it's own isn't enough to gain effectively. However If you wear the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] 24/7 I think you'll gain, and if you hang as well, I think you'll gain even better.

thanks for replying. i dont see how that makes sense. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] should definitely give u better EL ad BPFSL gains together than hanging, before stop gaining of course. so u dont think the angle of hanging and the angle of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] matters? if i do BTC or OTC with hanging and then wear [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] 12-20 hours a day but on left/right side, they're not helpig one another no? im looking to start hangig pretty soon, but even when i hang i wanna work up to 7-8 hours a day for sure with 1 hour sets instead of just 20.

 

[Zambrodom3]

thanks for replying. i dont see how that makes sense. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] should definitely give u better EL ad BPFSL gains together than hanging, before stop gaining of course. so u dont think the angle of hanging and the angle of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] matters? if i do BTC or OTC with hanging and then wear [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] 12-20 hours a day but on left/right side, they're not helpig one another no? im looking to start hangig pretty soon, but even when i hang i wanna work up to 7-8 hours a day for sure with 1 hour sets instead of just 20.

Nononononononon! I think you got it wrong mate! I mean- what is most important in gaining length is choosing the right angle (which is a MUST if you want to gain. 1-st ligament stretching and THEN tunica. This is the way it goes if you want to see best gains. Plus, there is no better ligament gaining position than BTC (and maybe no better tunica than some fulcrum or maybe OS) to stretch in and increase weight. While [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] can give some good stretch, they can not go up to 50 lbs (that is crazy, but is just an example). If you wear a hanger- you can increase/decrease weight with ease and you know EXACTLY how much force you apply (the weight you attach to the hanger).

I am not saying that getting and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/extender is a bad idea! I am just saying that in terms of length (this is just MY wicked opinion rofl)- a hanger is the best device you can get! . If you really want to get the best- why not hang and extend/ADS after the hanging session itself .

 

[FishScale]

i see what u mean. my angle of erection is parallel to the ground, and i cant feel the tug at 7-6:00, so i guess i will have to do tunica hanging. u didnt answer my other question, if i target the tunica with hanging, what should i do to follow up with it, as in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. say i do an hour or two of OTS, then i put the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] on, thing is it is stretching one side at a time. so do u think it will still be effective to wear an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] after hanging?

 

[coogi]

yeh its best to wear an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] after tunica hanging, I think its the best way to gain, regardless of the angle