http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2571870/pdf/jnma00281-0075.pdf\

Medical discussion of priapism-- discusses a sickle cell patient who "did not develop impotence despite the fact that he had several episodes of priapism," (473). "During an episode of priapism, the penis further increased in size [beyond its previous maximum] and got very tender," (473).

The key to priapism-induced growth (and avoiding injury):
It appears that the degree of venous obstruction in our patient was such as to produce filling and engorgement of the cavernous spaces resulting in prolonged erection and at the same time the obstruction was not complete so that the circulation through the cavernous spaces continued to the extent that ischemic injury did not occur. Lack of ischemic injury to the cavernous tissue was possibly responsible for the preservation of potency (237).

[R]epeated episodes of mild hypoxia resulting from the transient partial venous obstruction in our patient might have been a stimulus for the hypertrophy of corpora cavernosa, because hypoxia is known to result in hypertrophy of tissues.

So, what is Hypoxia? Essentially a medical term for lack of Oxygen to a part of the body. Clearly, when this part is extrapolated for use in Penis Enlargement, it has to be to a milder extent-- suffocating the penis would be bad. Temporarily squeezing it, however, might be beneficial.

I believe with a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words], cable clamp, and natural penis pills , this could safely be attempted. The important parts would be nutrition, hydration, cum control, a solid 4 hours and 15 minutes of privacy, and level of oxygenation. 8 sets of 30 minute clamping and pumping sets (alternating between the two) with ten erect Ulis in between each seems like the best way to go to me. The pump would need to be at a low pressure-- probably around 3 Hg (however much is needed to sustain a 110% erection).

Well, that's it for now. Let me know if you guys think this is a crazy rant or actually doable. To me, if it can happen to some men by nature, it can happen to others by the science of Penis Enlargement. What they experienced sounds like a long clamping session to me.
 
"In the middle of the spectrum there appears to be various degrees of partial venous obstruction, resulting in priapism associated with adequate oxygenation of the cavernous tissue because of continued circulation in the presence of incomplete venous occlusion."

I guess this would be the perfect state:)
 
basically doing whole day Penis Enlargement. mixing exercises. having an errection as often as you can.
I tried something like this the last days. I would have a 30 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session with low to medium pressure. then I would edge for another 30 minutes. I would push as much blood into my dick holding a reverse kegel for a big amount of time. My head started to explode as did the head of my dick.
Next thing I did was having a light clamp(velcro strap) for 30 minutes and whenever I felt that too much blood was leaving I would kegel more in or wank. then I would end this set with some jelqs.

This I did 3-4 times a day. Im planing to mix this programm with some heavy workout every 3-4 days to expand the ability of my dick(like heavy [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches on max pressure).

I did this cause for me it felt to hard to have everyday a to the max workout and on the other hand I dont want to pause a day.

Im thinking about documenting my journey more with every day pictures cause when I stick to my workout regimen and intensity I most certainly will get some good gains.

Ps. a friend of me who has a really big dick is for real palying with his dick all the day since I knew. Also our dicks grow the most in puberty(sure some hormones play into it too..). I can remember whole puberty was like priapism :D
 
dickerschwanz;459856 said:
basically doing whole day Penis Enlargement. mixing exercises. having an errection as often as you can.
I tried something like this the last days. I would have a 30 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session with low to medium pressure. then I would edge for another 30 minutes. I would push as much blood into my dick holding a reverse kegel for a big amount of time. My head started to explode as did the head of my dick.
Next thing I did was having a light clamp(velcro strap) for 30 minutes and whenever I felt that too much blood was leaving I would kegel more in or wank. then I would end this set with some jelqs.

This I did 3-4 times a day. Im planing to mix this programm with some heavy workout every 3-4 days to expand the ability of my dick(like heavy [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches on max pressure).

I did this cause for me it felt to hard to have everyday a to the max workout and on the other hand I dont want to pause a day.

Im thinking about documenting my journey more with every day pictures cause when I stick to my workout regimen and intensity I most certainly will get some good gains.

Ps. a friend of me who has a really big dick is for real palying with his dick all the day since I knew. Also our dicks grow the most in puberty(sure some hormones play into it too..). I can remember whole puberty was like priapism :D

Document it for sure. Many have tried controlled Priapism but none have accomplished it. In most cases Priapism will last 3-7 days. These episodes may happen 10-15 times a year. Overtime the penis is forced into enlargement. Keep in mind also that most men who have Priapism end up with ED problems. The case in discussion is rare, as it stated, but it would be great to find a way to safely mimic it.
 
doublelongdaddy;460011 said:
Document it for sure. Many have tried controlled Priapism but none have accomplished it. In most cases Priapism will last 3-7 days. These episodes may happen 10-15 times a year. Overtime the penis is forced into enlargement. Keep in mind also that most men who have Priapism end up with ED problems. The case in discussion is rare, as it stated, but it would be great to find a way to safely mimic it.

I sure dont want to have a real priapism as the price and risk is too high. what I want to do is to get the "healthy" way near to it. I have much time. I think I will do my workout 3-4 times a day and in between I try to hold an errection as long as possible and/or stay in an engorged state(cock ring, strap). then every 2-4 days a heavy workout. lets see what happens. only following this kind of workout sicne some days.
 
dickerschwanz;460020 said:
I sure dont want to have a real priapism as the price and risk is too high. what I want to do is to get the "healthy" way near to it. I have much time. I think I will do my workout 3-4 times a day and in between I try to hold an errection as long as possible and/or stay in an engorged state(cock ring, strap). then every 2-4 days a heavy workout. lets see what happens. only following this kind of workout sicne some days.

If you have the time an can keep it up for ever, go for it!
 
What I have done that worked on numerous occasions is sit constricted in an Air Pump while laying in the bath tub for about an hour then cable clamping for an additional 30 minutes. If I were to go all day clamped, I would break every 40 minutes and do helicopters to restore blood flow and ease up for 20 minutes before going back at it. I have seen significant growth in girth or overall penile volume. I used to suffer the dreaded DONUTS effect until I found the solution in a pair of thin nylon wave caps made of pantie hose material. By wrapping around the back of the glands while being clamped at the base, I eliminated the Donuts. And now that I've added an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] into my regimen, I have to be wrapped good to avoid pinching, pain and priapism from the prolonged stretch n lock down.

I know I'm making Progress because:

1. I can't extend after pumping or clamping...(won't fit through the ring)
2. If I do REDZ FRENDOS and then Clamp..I'm too big to fit inside the pump

To run my whole program I must Extend>Pump>Redz Frendos>Clamp

I don't do the hanging thing because I don't have enough privacy.

Thanks to brothers like DLD, Red Zulu, Still Want More and reading about other fellow members' shared experiences with various manual P.E. exercises, methods of pumping, hanging, stretching, clamping & crushing has given me a blue print to a bigger penis without expensive surgery.
 
I'm bringing this thread back to fucking life. I'm slowly working my way up using an ADC at while I work. So far I've been keeping a 50-70% erection for 3-6 hours everyday for two weeks. My clamp is on weak enough that if I become distracted my clamp is on weak enough that EVENTUALLY blood can escape (it takes a little while). I will tighten and increase erection levels slowly over the next few months.

Why am I doing this? Ive been spending too much time PEing late and to be honest I don't have time for it. I'm so busy at work I skip lunches. So if I can keep up an all day light clamp and get PE girth work done while I work I will be very happy.

I'm documenting measurements and results of course if anything amazing or bad happens lol. Safety first! ⛑️

I must add that most of the time I have to do 2 hour sets and split them up throughout the day... unfortunately.
 
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Egghed;750967 said:
I'm bringing this thread back to fucking life. I'm slowly working my way up using an ADC at while I work. So far I've been keeping a 50-70% erection for 3-6 hours everyday for two weeks. My clamp is on weak enough that if I become distracted my clamp is on weak enough that EVENTUALLY blood can escape (it takes a little while). I will tighten and increase erection levels slowly over the next few months.

Why am I doing this? Ive been spending too much time PEing late and to be honest I don't have time for it. I'm so busy at work I skip lunches. So if I can keep up an all day light clamp and get PE girth work done while I work I will be very happy.

I'm documenting measurements and results of course if anything amazing or bad happens lol. Safety first! ⛑️

I must add that most of the time I have to do 2 hour sets and split them up throughout the day... unfortunately.

Good luck and I hope you find success! I loved this idea from the start but no one has been able to do it. I came close, I was doing 4-6 hours a night with an erection. I was able to keep it up for about 8 weeks and then it just got to be too much for me. Then I got sick and had to stop everything. If someone can successfully hold an erection for 4-5 hours in a row, over a six month period I guarantee you make the biggest gains possible.
 
So it doesn't seem as though anyone had much luck with this. I would like to try a 4 hour clamping session with viagra, but I don't have a prescription for it. Will see if I can find some around my city somehow.

Also does anyone have a link to purchase these clamps?

Blue Whale;412368 said:
Here are the pics of the clamp in my opinion the main advantage is the handle that is positioned vertically to the floor(pubic bone) which makes it easier to press down,deep as close to the pubic bone as possible and it fits perfectly around the penis.

Blue Whale;412719 said:
Clamps are produced by company called Kupp and is located in Germany.

Googling gave no results for this at all. The clamps sound great though.
 
I think I went the furthest in this experiment and I was able to get to 4-6 hours with the help of Viagra. I did this for about 3 months, some nights I was not able to hold for that long but most night I could. After all that time and effort I have nothing to show for it. I am really thinking Mega-Phallus happens when someone has priapism for days at a time, this is the only thing that would make sense. So I am not discouraging you, I am saying get prepared to hold an erection for days of this is going to work.
 
doublelongdaddy;752185 said:
I think I went the furthest in this experiment and I was able to get to 4-6 hours with the help of Viagra.

just going to ignore the 'for an erection lasting over 4 hours, seek medical attention' warnings?? lol
 
You seem to gain well normally though, so how did these extended PE sessions not result in some gains?

I sure as hell don't have multiple days to spend on PE for 4 hours. I was thinking maybe I'll try a single 4 - 6 hour session and maybe get something permanent out of it. I'm not prepared to do it daily though.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;752188 said:
just going to ignore the 'for an erection lasting over 4 hours, seek medical attention' warnings?? lol

Complete ignore that bullshit, let me dick stay hard for 2 weeks! :)
 
stillwantmore2;752331 said:
Just make sure the cock ring is removable and not metal. You don't want to get too swollen and it getting stuck.

Indeed, get a quick release ring that can be unhinged or loosened by it's own mechanism. A clamp is a perfect example.
 
yea well i have a bunch of different-sized OXBALLS cock rings, work pretty well

i'm just trying to understand which would be more effective as a clamper:

a good tight cock ring or something like a cable clamp? it's just that it is recommended to wrap the base if using a cable clamp. but perhaps a cock ring is just better?
 
ULTIM8GAINZ;752603 said:
yea well i have a bunch of different-sized OXBALLS cock rings, work pretty well

i'm just trying to understand which would be more effective as a clamper:

a good tight cock ring or something like a cable clamp? it's just that it is recommended to wrap the base if using a cable clamp. but perhaps a cock ring is just better?

I would say anything will a quick release like a clamp. There are cock rings with hinges and other types of release mechanisms. But the clamp will be cheapest, I do not advice clamps generally but in this case it may be the safest option.
 
Dropped in to breathe some air to this thread too since I've been playing around with this concept for a bit now, but just found this thread and read it.

I've been doing this kind of thing on and off for about year and a half but for the last six months I started to dig into it some more. My aid has been some supplements along the lines of L-arginine and such but not yet Viagra because I haven't got the prescription for it yet. It's on the horizon though so I have some really exciting things to look forward to!

Also my girth work is on hold at the moment because my old enemy the turkey neck came back because of some neglect and an old scar from earlier expansion tying the skin on the lower shaft. So I have to take care of business before I can get back to the sweet, sweet cake. But luckily this gives me some time to sort out some money troubles and purchase meself some nice DMSO and PABA to loosen up that tunica for those Viagra-driven clamping sessions lurking about in my future!

Also on the priapism-side of things:

I too strongly believe that it is not necessary to hold a 100% erection even through out the three to four hour session because you can so easily pump up from 90% or even 70%. The full blown four hour clamping session sounds a bit rough too to my ear but go for them if you're up to the task! But the feeling of holding an 60-100% erection for eight to ten hours a day is pretty amazing to say the least.

And it is starting to show!
 
BassJasso;761818 said:
Dropped in to breathe some air to this thread too since I've been playing around with this concept for a bit now, but just found this thread and read it.

I've been doing this kind of thing on and off for about year and a half but for the last six months I started to dig into it some more. My aid has been some supplements along the lines of L-arginine and such but not yet Viagra because I haven't got the prescription for it yet. It's on the horizon though so I have some really exciting things to look forward to!

Also my girth work is on hold at the moment because my old enemy the turkey neck came back because of some neglect and an old scar from earlier expansion tying the skin on the lower shaft. So I have to take care of business before I can get back to the sweet, sweet cake. But luckily this gives me some time to sort out some money troubles and purchase meself some nice DMSO and PABA to loosen up that tunica for those Viagra-driven clamping sessions lurking about in my future!

Also on the priapism-side of things:

I too strongly believe that it is not necessary to hold a 100% erection even through out the three to four hour session because you can so easily pump up from 90% or even 70%. The full blown four hour clamping session sounds a bit rough too to my ear but go for them if you're up to the task! But the feeling of holding an 60-100% erection for eight to ten hours a day is pretty amazing to say the least.

And it is starting to show!

Awesome to hear someone is actually following through. I gave up long ago with many others. Thank you for taking this up and letting us know how it is going. Have you made any measurable gains thus far?
 
doublelongdaddy;761921 said:
Awesome to hear someone is actually following through. I gave up long ago with many others. Thank you for taking this up and letting us know how it is going. Have you made any measurable gains thus far?

I dare not try this
 
huge-girth;761967 said:
I dare not try this

No one so far has been able to do it. I made it like 3 months I think holding an erection for 3-6 hours a night with absolutely no growth so I gave up.
 
doublelongdaddy;761921 said:
Awesome to hear someone is actually following through. I gave up long ago with many others. Thank you for taking this up and letting us know how it is going. Have you made any measurable gains thus far?

I'm actually on hiatus from measuring because I kinda went nuts with it and it got in the way of the more real things I should be focusing on. But I don't think I've gained all that much from this. Not that I could say I've been absolutely dedicated to it this whole time but I have had few longer phases with it. I plan to do a three month period later this year to try this "little three letter thingy" I found here on the forums and I thought I'd corporate the priapism training with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words].

My plan was to try and cement my pretty decent temporary girth gains with this. But then again if I find some better means to do that I think I'd prefer that because as many have said it earlier: It is really, really risky and I would like to keep my li'l fellow for many more years to come so I'm not sure how far I will go with this.
 
Yea I made it to 2-3 hours a day and saw no additional benefit over just clamping at max engorgement with a low dose (25mg-50mg) of generic viagra. No prescription needed, see the viagra sub forum. 30-45 minutes a day 5 days on, 2 off was my recipe for girth.
 
I typed an answer earlier to this but I'm not sure what happened to it. Anyway I've been thinking more about this and I'm starting to turn to something stillwantmore2 mentioned.

Of course the idea of high-flow priapism is extremely tempting, at least to me. Especially because it wouldn't much affect my lifestyle anyways, it being reshapen with the idea of being able to live a life of PE. But the risk of causing myself a low-flow priapism and some possible damage seems more high and scary than the possibility to hold an all-day hard-on. And since so many of you seem to get no gains from this I don't feel I want to risk myself to this.

So I'm gonna stick with what I've been doing with clamping and supplements and will boost it with Viagra. And I do need a prescription to it here in Finland, but I don't think it will be a problem to get one.

Also: I read my earlier post and it is a bit misleading. I haven't actually lived six months of priapism as much as six months of somewhat dedicated PE. Since I'm unemployed I have a lot of free time and what better way to spend it than PE and other kind of self-improvement!
 
BassJasso;762080 said:
I'm actually on hiatus from measuring because I kinda went nuts with it and it got in the way of the more real things I should be focusing on. But I don't think I've gained all that much from this. Not that I could say I've been absolutely dedicated to it this whole time but I have had few longer phases with it. I plan to do a three month period later this year to try this "little three letter thingy" I found here on the forums and I thought I'd corporate the priapism training with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words].

My plan was to try and cement my pretty decent temporary girth gains with this. But then again if I find some better means to do that I think I'd prefer that because as many have said it earlier: It is really, really risky and I would like to keep my li'l fellow for many more years to come so I'm not sure how far I will go with this.

Take it slow at first and build up time so as not to cause injury. I really want someone to do this with success so the whole Brotherhood has confidence in something we have been hard pressed to solve.
 
stillwantmore2;762276 said:
True. I still feel there's no need to train girth for more than 45 minutes a day from my first hand experience.

Plenty of time. But in order for controlled priapism I think we would need to go like 8 hours + a day to see any changes.
 
doublelongdaddy;762495 said:
Plenty of time. But in order for controlled priapism I think we would need to go like 8 hours + a day to see any changes.

Only 45 minutes a day? I need to do some reading!

The more I think about my gains and the attempted priapism the more I feel my gains aren't as much from the "priapisming" as they are from manual excercises. Also a lot of the time I use clamping to keep the erection going and of course it means I can't do it in public and so on.

I some how feel I came out too strong with this, but I'm glad I did so it got me thinking. This is still an interesting idea and could be pretty fun lifestyle if succeeded and if one didn't have any other aspirations that needed time.

Oh, and stillwantmore2: Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out.
 
BassJasso;762661 said:
Only 45 minutes a day? I need to do some reading!

The more I think about my gains and the attempted priapism the more I feel my gains aren't as much from the "priapisming" as they are from manual excercises. Also a lot of the time I use clamping to keep the erection going and of course it means I can't do it in public and so on.

I some how feel I came out too strong with this, but I'm glad I did so it got me thinking. This is still an interesting idea and could be pretty fun lifestyle if succeeded and if one didn't have any other aspirations that needed time.

Oh, and stillwantmore2: Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out.

No, 45 minutes of traditional girth work. Controlled priapism needs to be more than 4-5 hours a day and more than 4 months as that is how far I went with no measurable results.
 
doublelongdaddy;762698 said:
No, 45 minutes of traditional girth work. Controlled priapism needs to be more than 4-5 hours a day and more than 4 months as that is how far I went with no measurable results.

Hahah! Yes, of course. My English is a bit rusty and I have the bad habit of just writing a post and posting it without reading it through.

But 45 minutes of traditional GW seems so low to me. But then again it IS a workout when you do it right!

And on priapism again: I do too think it would have to be 4-5+ hours to achieve the effects of priapism. Maybe even more because as I said earlier I've been able to do close to twelve hours a day. Not 100% of course, but I'd say the range was from 40% to 100%. My problem has been consistency because I have to give time to music too and it's extremely exhausting to keep doing it from day after day after day as DLD mentioned earlier.

But the journey continues and future will show where it will lead me!
 
BassJasso;763093 said:
Hahah! Yes, of course. My English is a bit rusty and I have the bad habit of just writing a post and posting it without reading it through.

But 45 minutes of traditional GW seems so low to me. But then again it IS a workout when you do it right!

And on priapism again: I do too think it would have to be 4-5+ hours to achieve the effects of priapism. Maybe even more because as I said earlier I've been able to do close to twelve hours a day. Not 100% of course, but I'd say the range was from 40% to 100%. My problem has been consistency because I have to give time to music too and it's extremely exhausting to keep doing it from day after day after day as DLD mentioned earlier.

But the journey continues and future will show where it will lead me!

I did much longer girth work also when I was actively training, about 2 hours a day. But you are right, 45 minutes of a exercise done right is better than hours of doing an exercise wrong. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words]/SlowSquashJelq routine, called the 5x5x3 found in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] is the best use of your time for girth work. Nothing will bring more expansion.
 
I feel like I need at least 30+ minutes a day to get a good reaction the next day. That full flushed hang.
With around 45minutes-1 hour it feels right. After that edema and other problems start. That's with pumping and clamping.

Getting a 4h+ Priapism style expansion is nuts. I probably would go for some lighter expansion in the clamp.
I think I could manage it without chemicals, just clamping and some adult entertainment. I probably did some 2 hours edging already.

Would you guys say it should be uninterrupted? I think these priapism cases had the erection going without any downtime.
 
I feel like I need at least 30+ minutes a day to get a good reaction the next day. That full flushed hang.
With around 45minutes-1 hour it feels right. After that edema and other problems start. That's with pumping and clamping.

Getting a 4h+ Priapism style expansion is nuts. I probably would go for some lighter expansion in the clamp.
I think I could manage it without chemicals, just clamping and some adult entertainment. I probably did some 2 hours edging already.

Would you guys say it should be uninterrupted? I think these priapism cases had the erection going without any downtime.

Sometimes I went longer than four hours! I really want to make this work and I was just so disappointed that I was not making gains because of it. But when I looked deeper into priapism and how mega phallus happens it usually is over a few days of having an erection. The danger in this is over that long period of time some men would be able to still get an erection after it subsided but many would end up Impotent.
 
Yeah you only hear about the guys who ended up healthy and lucky.
It's not like we need to do this. Our methods work anyway.


That’s a very good point! I would say that 90% of the men do have priapism for days on end will end up impotent to some existent if not completely.
 
Yeah it was sort of just us throwing ideas around in the day, but who knows, it may have promise?
It shows that the right amount of time and intensity can give plastic deformation(permanent) of the penis tissues.
Elastic expansion we get with every erection and moreso with all PE. If that erection is held for a lot it possibly reaches plastic deformation like with priapism. The plastic deformation range though is short and if you go too far it enters injury range.

If we do consistent PE the elastic expansion will add on over weeks and we get plastic deformation. 1 cell at a time. If frequency of PE is too low coupled with too low intensity of each exercise then it will always go back to square one again and again with little progress.

I know I will only gain with high frequency and good intensity while avoiding injury. Often we suddenly see gains.. I think that's when we reached critical mass.

I agree with swm that proven techniques applied consistently is a safe bet for gains.
But it tickles me to mimick a priapism-like- event from time to time.
 
I agree, but in the past we didn't have proven techniques, and had to experiment! if I had money for the amount of times my dick went purple through the early days of constrictors now known as clamping, I would be rich.

Its also still good to experiment, otherwise we'll never go into new territory and discover stuff.
 
Its also still good to experiment, otherwise we'll never go into new territory and discover stuff.

Exactly correct! We are very famous for our abilities to create exercises, routines and tools. In the PE game there are times men will need to take risks for the rest of the Brotherhood to see if something will work. If I never charted off into the erect exercises I don’t think there would be any erect exercises. Always dig as deep as you can to find those gold nuggets and bring them out so we can continue to be at the forefront of this business. Much respect for those guinea pigs out there!
 
Only 45 minutes a day? I need to do some reading!

The more I think about my gains and the attempted priapism the more I feel my gains aren't as much from the "priapisming" as they are from manual excercises. Also a lot of the time I use clamping to keep the erection going and of course it means I can't do it in public and so on.

I some how feel I came out too strong with this, but I'm glad I did so it got me thinking. This is still an interesting idea and could be pretty fun lifestyle if succeeded and if one didn't have any other aspirations that needed time.

Oh, and stillwantmore2: Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out.

Referring to clamping with Viagra and high pressure. More intense training than most ever do with their hands.
 
I clamped around 10-15 times and gained half centimetre girth . Not sure if it all comes from that but seems like. I feel like that plastic deformation happens too easy on me. However i barely can stretch length... i hate it cos i only want length
 
The guinea pigs often become legends...

Indeed and I can name the guinea pigs over the past 17 years! If it were not for the risk that so many brothers took we would not have the exercises we have today. We would be like ????
 
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