smitty2590;718965 said:
Exactly I completely agree. All I was trying to get at from all that is there is no age to say exact because everyone is different for the op asking this if he has to ask I'd say hold off. You'll know when you and your child are ready for that conversation. I completely agree with dld about the relationship aspect of this question. Me and my father are super close and I can say and tell him anything and that is what's needed for this.

This is an old post lol but it just helps create more discussion
 
kyomoto;718972 said:
This is an old post lol but it just helps create more discussion

Haha I did not pay attention but yea I see that now. Oh well my opinion is out there now so to late.
 
kyomoto;718919 said:
Pretty much. It's when the parent himself or herself believes he is mature enough for this type of concept.

Not really. It is not so much that they reach an age and they are ready but more that they are suffering and come to you for advice. Many men, may out of self-insecurity, push their child into PE. This, in itself, will cause more damage than if you did nothing at all. Some children will never want or need this and this needs to be respected. This is why I have said that the relationship needs to be very close in order to have the trust necessary. Maturity does not become a point when a son is introduced to PE, it is when they have a need for it.
 
doublelongdaddy;719001 said:
Not really. It is not so much that they reach an age and they are ready but more that they are suffering and come to you for advice. Many men, may out of self-insecurity, push their child into PE. This, in itself, will cause more damage than if you did nothing at all. Some children will never want or need this and this needs to be respected. This is why I have said that the relationship needs to be very close in order to have the trust necessary. Maturity does not become a point when a son is introduced to PE, it is when they have a need for it.

Dld is for sure a very wise man. Great words of wisdom there bro.
 
doublelongdaddy;719001 said:
Not really. It is not so much that they reach an age and they are ready but more that they are suffering and come to you for advice. Many men, may out of self-insecurity, push their child into PE. This, in itself, will cause more damage than if you did nothing at all. Some children will never want or need this and this needs to be respected. This is why I have said that the relationship needs to be very close in order to have the trust necessary. Maturity does not become a point when a son is introduced to PE, it is when they have a need for it.

I believe it is necessary to have maturity. You can teach your son when he needs it but may be immature about it mentally thus not preparing himself for a true love devotion rather just having sex because its fun as fuck with no good intention but selfishness.
 
doublelongdaddy;719001 said:
Not really. It is not so much that they reach an age and they are ready but more that they are suffering and come to you for advice. Many men, may out of self-insecurity, push their child into PE. This, in itself, will cause more damage than if you did nothing at all. Some children will never want or need this and this needs to be respected. This is why I have said that the relationship needs to be very close in order to have the trust necessary. Maturity does not become a point when a son is introduced to PE, it is when they have a need for it.

Wise words. How do you think is the best way to bring up the subject of PE?
 
A teen will search the Internet for pe on their own. But there has to be a way to let them know that they shouldn't hesitate to ask you for money for some pe equipment. Because alot of kids get depressed when they don't have money to buy the pe equipment that they can use.
 
Disco Dave;719455 said:
A teen will search the Internet for pe on their own. But there has to be a way to let them know that they shouldn't hesitate to ask you for money for some pe equipment. Because alot of kids get depressed when they don't have money to buy the pe equipment that they can use.

When you were younger and wanted to buy something really important, what did you do? I know I did anything/everything I could, odd-jobs, mowing lawns, whatever if it was an item I absolutely had to have. If it was completely out of my reach, I'd ask for Christmas and Birthday 'combined'. Kids these days are given everything without having the sense of earning anything...if they want it bad enough, they'll be resourceful...plus it will have more value since they worked for it
 
Big Schwanz Acht;719463 said:
When you were younger and wanted to buy something really important, what did you do? I know I did anything/everything I could, odd-jobs, mowing lawns, whatever if it was an item I absolutely had to have. If it was completely out of my reach, I'd ask for Christmas and Birthday 'combined'. Kids these days are given everything without having the sense of earning anything...if they want it bad enough, they'll be resourceful...plus it will have more value since they worked for it

If my kid needs a cheap car to get on his feet and make things happen for himself, then I would help instead of forcing him to take the long route while giving up hope or doing something stupid to get the money.

So I see no reason for not helping him get some basic pe equipment now and let him focus more on his mission instead of scrambling for months trying to scrape and save. Plus you could direct him to the good equipment to avoid more problems later on.

But the rest is on him after that.
 
Disco Dave;719455 said:
A teen will search the Internet for pe on their own. But there has to be a way to let them know that they shouldn't hesitate to ask you for money for some pe equipment. Because alot of kids get depressed when they don't have money to buy the pe equipment that they can use.

If the relationship is strong and trusting enough they will search you out before the internet. But even if they do search the internet, all roads eventually lead to the Brotherhood. I bet there are Father and Sons on here who don't even realize it. As far as equipment costs and how they can attain this, it is called a part time job :)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;719272 said:
Let them bring the subject up to you

How can they bring it up to you if they don't know about it? I guess you would have to create the relationship where your son is comfortable bringing these types of things to you.
 
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. dont groom your kids bra. and why dont you take a seat over there
 
higherone;720082 said:
How can they bring it up to you if they don't know about it? I guess you would have to create the relationship where your son is comfortable bringing these types of things to you.

That is what needs to happen. My Son will come to me with everything as I do with Him.
 
doublelongdaddy;720142 said:
That is what needs to happen. My Son will come to me with everything as I do with Him.

We should all strive for that kind of relationship with our sons.
 
higherone;720426 said:
We should all strive for that kind of relationship with our sons.

Indeed! My Son is my best friend, my spiritual advisor, the one I go to when things turn out bad, I rely on Him with the same way He relies on me. We share everything with each other and there is no topic of taboo, just pure love and acceptance.
 
Bottom line. I started this thread and I will now make a statement to those whom think that this is some pedo thread.

First and foremost. Everyone on this site is here because they are searching for something.

Now your searches are at the right place where you get to congregate with other searchers whom are searching for the same thing.

So why should a father not have the same pe relationship with his son that we all have here with other members?

By the way. I am sure that 14 year old males visit this site as well.

Now most of us older gents wished we started pe earlier in our lives.

So let's not tell the young ones on this site that its creepy to have their dads discuss pe with them at the 15 year old range.

Especially since the government will talk your son to fight in Iraq at the age of 17 - 18 years old.
 
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We have a fourteen yr old you are correct he's been identified, but I won't mention names (cough) Kay (cough) why(cough) would I do that? I'll give a clue his favorite food is Italian because he's extra virgin
 
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