MOS Dynamic Loops for Sale

DLD shouldn't let everyone know the markup but he is the Forum Leader and already knows that the majority of people here know the markup for this product.

If I am not mistaken the user Supra did this same thing on this very forum already. He charged $50 and then there was a big stink about it months later. Everyone supposeably said the thing (ROP at the time now DL) was useless and condemned him for it.

So now that those angry customers have cooled down, lets sell the same product for the same price but change the name??

Is there anyone who has done serious tests to find out if any of the benefits are true other than the increased bulge benefit?
 
koooky said:
For the most part, I have stood behind DLD/MOS since I have been here. I highly supported the MOS Power Assist and I still believe that it should be the "focus" product here at MOS. It is a fine commercial type product with outstanding workmanship. Though I could make a reasonable copy myself, no way I could copy the smooth lines and craftmanship of this fine product.

All that being said, I think the MOS LOOP/ROP is a bad move on the part of DLD/MOS.

I think there is a very bad rep that goes along with anyone attaching there name to a ROP here at MOS. Some of the older guys here will easily remember all the shit that went on with Supra's origianl ROP. At that time, it was very easily aurgued that DLD had no part in what went on with Supra deleting post of anyone who had anything negative to say about his cash cow at the time. There was a MOS wide feeling of a conspiracy that attached itself then(and now I believe) to the word ROP.

That is my problem with this new MOS LOOP. It's very easy to see the ease and cost of making your own. It's very easy to find out how cheap the materials are. It's also very easy to see how little time and effort actually go into making each one. My problems is that I think there will always be a certain stigmatism that will always be associated with any ROP product.

I would like to add this as well, to price a ROP at the same price as a Power Assist is just an insult. If a professional piece of equipment such as the PA can be had for 49.95, there is no way I would spend that money on a ROP.

Just my two cents,

kook
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If they sold Kooky I would agree with you 100% but the few people who do come to me, begging me to get these, bothering me with PM's, annoying me with questions about the ROP, the 0ne or two orders I might see from this per month, those orders will cost $50.00. It is very easy to see this, to see why I need to get what I do to make this happen. But, I could care less either way. I was trying to give those people an opportunity to get them but I can just as easily move the thread and forget the whole thing if it is an issue with MoS. This was a service I set up to alleviate some of the pains of my ass I get on ROP requests, I really don't need the paper or headache BUT again, I say it and I say it with complete pride. If someone has money they are going to give to someone for something they are going to buy and I can be the one giving this thing to them and this helps MOS then I will do this.

This particular thing is becoming a pain in my ass, this thread is starting to annoy me and I am kind of wishin' I never even offered:)
 
It's not about Penis Enlargement anymore, it's about Skrilla.
We should all find something to sell-out and exploit.
 
pyro said:
wtf is skrilla?
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SCARFACE LYRICS

"Skrilla"
(feat. Facemob)

[Intro:]

Skrillaaaaaaaaaa
Skrillaaaaaaaaaa
Skrillaaaaaaaaaa
Skrillaaaaaaaaaa

[Verse 1: Facemob]

Thinkin bout money, money, money, plottin how to get me some
(The fast dough) Cos see don't nothin move but the flow, really doe
I kid you not, I'm real with dis
Havin skrilla is the only way to deal with this
If it ain't green, it ain't me, that's no goddamn lie
Well show me big skrill and I will get live

Give up the loochie, I need it in a major way
Now gimme all (all), I gots ta have it (everyday)

It's my world, the only mom, I'm stressed, that'll make you
break you, if it's really real then I'll take you
Shake you for the dollar bill let's see
You're outta here (smoked on the fuckin concrete)

[Chorus:]

Skrillaaaaaaaaaa - Got me crazy, skrilla got me gone
Skrillaaaaaaaaaa - got me flippin new Cadillac chromes
Skrillaaaaaaaaaa - got me crazy, skrilla got me mad
Cos skrilla gives me from riches to rags (motherfucker)

[Verse 2: Scarface, Facemob]

It ain't nuttin but the cash flow game
How long can you last 'fore you're down to your very last change, nigga?
(Money makes the world go round) Tell em again y'all
(Money makes the world go round) (*My God*)
Forty, fifty grand a night, that's what I'm seein
as I'ma vin your own ass tonight, you know the meanin
of a worldwide national? Big money gripper
Baller, called a, million dollar nigga
(uhh, who me?) Yes you (Could be, but who?)

Uhh, 350 bringin on in the weeks news
And no I don't shoot, I swoop in my Coupe
Skrilla for realla my nigga, so whatcha wanna do?
Do you want to fuck around with my crew? Do you
want to? Would do exactly what you did do
Stay in you, don't have enough to attend to the menu
So come and let me single, continue (everybody sayin)
To make money money money, make money money money (yeah)
Here go fat stacks if you can't take money nigga
Take money money money, take money money money
So can you please make the cheque out to the Facemob

Check it
Now one, two, three to the fo', like
rippin million dollars in my hand, tight
Facemob rule number one thing (what?)
Skrilla, nuttin but skrilla's the way to maintain
Us both, have got to keep the skrill between
us fo', as we proceed to make mo'

Really doe, from town to town we puts it down
As I, hold it down, game tight, right

Now Miss Crabtree (Crabtree), I know that you are mad at me
To find out that it was your money (money)
that I spent and now girl, it's all gone
(It's what?) It's all gone

It's gone like riches to rags, dishes to bags
of leftover ten and jam, can happen to any man
Gots ta get money, money I gots ta get
this shit right now so I can hop on the lot
And we about to come up as we put the shit down
Hold up, don't rush, cos I'm good ta gets mine
If it wadn't for bad, I'd have no up than luck
Smokin plank of man, who gives a motherfuck!!!!
The bill collectors, they ring my phone
Scam my wife when I'm not home
Bitch I'm gone, tryin ta come back phat
Facemob where ya at? (Right behind ya and we strapped)

Strapped with straps and all eyes on paper
And most importantly you keep your mind on papin
And you can have it all, if you can take your money pieces at a time
but you can't take your pieces outta mine
Big wine, it's all about the dollar sign
I'm, flippin in the big Dawg, continental flyin
Tryin to stack it to the ceilin on you home's
Cos bitches got me cummin but skrilla got me goin

[Chorus:]

Skrillaaaaaaaaaa - got me crazy, skrilla got me goin
Skrillaaaaaaaaaa - got me flippin new Cadillac chromes
Skrillaaaaaaaaaa - bought me houses, skrilla bought me clothes
Skrilla got me flippin in a Rolls
 
If MOS is going to be selling an item such as the ROP which has been thoroughly debunked on this forum, what is next? The MOS Snake Oil? The MOS Hypnosis?
 
Firstly, opinions on the ROP were divided. That doesn't mean that it doesn't work, it means that opinions were divided!

In fact I can remember people, including Supra, posting pictures of testosterone tests that they had had done that clearly showed that their testosterone levels were up. Equally some users claimed that there were no changes in them, many of which admitted to not wearing the ROP for required amount of time.

Either way, I was recently interested in buying one of these and really could not be bothered to go and find out how to build one, resource the materials and put it together. I contacted a member on this board that was offering them for sale for $50 each. I didn't think that was a bad price since it would probably take me about 5 hours at least to find everything I needed and another hour to put it together.

In that time I could be working etc, so really it comes down to what value you put on your time. A lot of businesses work on exactly that principle. For example, still in relation to Penis Enlargement, extenders can be built by almost anyone but the problem is that it is a lot of hassle and it takes up a lot of your time.

MOS have not only provided its members with an excellent discount on one of these extenders but DLD also stickyed a thread explaining how to make your own. Same goes for the power assist. This could effect MOS profits but they've done it anyway. This in itself shows that DLD and Lightning are not crooks. They are in fact providing a service.

Secondly, DLD and Lightning have provided this place for us all to learn and chat. The forum is exactly what allows people to learn about the ROP or Extenders, etc, in the first place. It's not like you are being forced to buy anything, that's the brilliance of it. You get so much for free, then if you want to buy one of MOS's excellent, second to none products, support your community and help your self grow a bigger penis then you can do.

The point is that people are ready to spend $50 on ROP like devices. Why should that money not go to MOS?

Bottom line: If you have a problem with the product then simply don't buy it. Just don't start bitching about it when not proof has been shown to say that the product is ineffective and people have shown proof that it works.
 
Noone has shown clear proof it works. From the posts I've read someone went to try to do scientific tests and came back with nothing.

Sure Supra's test levels went up but wasn't he on other kinds of meds that boost your test levels? At least that's what his posts stated. He was trying anything and injecting anything to get it.

I understand your view on if people don't want it, don't buy it. That makes sense. I am just shocked at the fact that this product is even being offered around here. First the $0.71 Viagra which was clearly $3+ viagra (GENERIC) from some mainstream site which was obviously affiliated. All of which when there are better sources and cheaper sources for the stuff around here. Then the rebirth of the ROP. Next it probably will be health pills or something.

I love seeing people make money (Da Scrilla) but you don't gotta sell out to make it. Give people quality at unbeatable prices and it beats trying to sell them half ass shit for high prices because they will always come back. Same thing works in the drug game.
 
Duppi_KronKite said:
First the $0.71 Viagra which was clearly $3+ viagra (GENERIC) from some mainstream site which was obviously affiliated. All of which when there are better sources and cheaper sources for the stuff around here. Then the rebirth of the ROP. Next it probably will be health pills or something.
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MOS is already selling penis enlargement pills, even though DLD and every single person on this forum says pills is a waste of money because they do not work.
 
Penis EnlargementTER DICK said:
MOS is already selling penis enlargement pills, even though DLD and every single person on this forum says pills is a waste of money because they do not work.
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Exactly DLD's point. Regardless of our opinions people are going to buy these things from other sources, wouldn't everyone prefer this money go into the forum? The ROP is also something people want to try and buy regardless of others opinions. Some even had positive results, psychosomatic possibly? Wouldn't you all prefer products that people are already going to purchase be purchased at MOS? Makes sense to me.
 
The BTC Killer said:
Exactly DLD's point. Regardless of our opinions people are going to buy these things from other sources, wouldn't everyone prefer this money go into the forum? The ROP is also something people want to try and buy regardless of others opinions. Some even had positive results, psychosomatic possibly? Wouldn't you all prefer products that people are already going to purchase be purchased at MOS? Makes sense to me.
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That's like saying people are going to buy drugs from other sources, so I should just as well become a drug dealer so they can give their money to me.
Wouldn't it be better to help convince people that drugs are bad, instead of contributing to the problem?

Wouldn't it be better for MOS to convince people that penis pills is a waste of money?
 
Duppi_KronKite said:
I understand your view on if people don't want it, don't buy it. That makes sense. I am just shocked at the fact that this product is even being offered around here. First the $0.71 Viagra which was clearly $3+ viagra (GENERIC) from some mainstream site which was obviously affiliated. All of which when there are better sources and cheaper sources for the stuff around here. Then the rebirth of the ROP. Next it probably will be health pills or something.

I love seeing people make money (Da Scrilla) but you don't gotta sell out to make it. Give people quality at unbeatable prices and it beats trying to sell them half ass shit for high prices because they will always come back. Same thing works in the drug game.
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Penis EnlargementTER DICK said:
That's like saying people are going to buy drugs from other sources, so I should just as well become a drug dealer so they can give their money to me.
Wouldn't it be better to help convince people that drugs are bad, instead of contributing to the problem?

Wouldn't it be better for MOS to convince people that penis pills is a waste of money?
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Great points here.

Mattersofsize, as of late, has been expanding at what seems like a pretty fast rate, and according to DLD his dreams of "spreading the word to the world" are being fulfilled in the process.

So what are the intentions here Dld? To sell "penis enlargement pills" that everyone with their pop-up blockers turned off can get, or is it to provide the truth about penis enlargement?

Do you want a forum of intelligent informed posters with the intent of helping others, or mislead sheep to buy your products and pad your pockets?

I personally like this forum and enjoy participating, but I don't know how much more some of us can take.
 
I'm not so sure that penis pills are a waste of money and neither is DLD. He specifically started selling penis pills alongside a survey so that we could all find out whether they do work when used in conjunction with a Penis Enlargement routine.

Now, it seems to me this survey would provide us with some useful knowledge, considering that this is a penis enlargement forum, and what better way of getting that knowledge than supporting this forum (our home) in the process? Especially when you consider that to get that knowledge we would have to be spending our money on pills that we are not really sure about the quality of and that were bought from someone that we don't know at all.

This way we can do the study and the money goes to MOS.

Great point BTC, there are so many people on this forum that would buy penis enlargement pills at some point so why not have them buy top quality pills from MOS. Then the money stays here, they get good pills and they can take part in the survey.

Once again. If you don't want to buy the products then don't buy them. Simple. :)
 
Mosterson said:
Great points here.

Mattersofsize, as of late, has been expanding at what seems like a pretty fast rate, and according to DLD his dreams of "spreading the word to the world" are being fulfilled in the process.

So what are the intentions here Dld? To sell "penis enlargement pills" that everyone with their pop-up blockers turned off can get, or is it to provide the truth about penis enlargement?

Do you want a forum of intelligent informed posters with the intent of helping others, or mislead sheep to buy your products and pad your pockets?

I personally like this forum and enjoy participating, but I don't know how much more some of us can take.
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I agree with everything you have said so far. The whole "people will buy them anyway so why not give your business (and your profit) to me" is pretty fucking weak dude. You (DLD) have a lot of clout here at this forum and people will buy your products just because you are selling them. If you gave 2 shits about your members you wouldn't be selling them bullshit products like this, and I don't think you are "offering the service" of selling an item costing a dollar to make for 50 bucks plus probably 10 more for the shippingjust to be helpful, that's a crock.
 
why not purchase something from someone who has gained from using the same exact items. If I could afford them Id buy them.The world revolves around sales. DLD has put in every bit of his time into this website and into developing techniques of his own so he and the rest of us can gain. This website is free to everyone on here except DLD. He has to pay big money so we can learn for FREE. If it worked for DLD it will work for us. Im 100% behind DLD on what ever he does.
Im sure he talks with his close members on his ideas to see what they say.
We are lucky. Search the net for sites that help women with there sexual issues. None are free. there all become a member pay so much Penis EnlargementR month. There not a 1 time fee like here to be a member. They want you to buy books, tools, membership etc.. Theres enough info in the free forums here, that you dont have to spend a penny to gain.
Bottom line buying these products is still alot cheaper then spending 10grand for someone to cut your dick open.
If I have to spend $500 to gain an inch both ways. guess what, well worth it. Hell people spend $10,000's to gain a 1/10 second in 1/4 times. My company just spent $20,000 just to make my store look better. It didnt increase my sales though.

DLD do what you have to do. You will still have alot of guys supporting you 100%
 
chads said:
why not purchase something from someone who has gained from using the same exact items. If I could afford them Id buy them.The world revolves around sales. DLD has put in every bit of his time into this website and into developing techniques of his own so he and the rest of us can gain. This website is free to everyone on here except DLD. He has to pay big money so we can learn for FREE. If it worked for DLD it will work for us. Im 100% behind DLD on what ever he does.
Im sure he talks with his close members on his ideas to see what they say.
We are lucky. Search the net for sites that help women with there sexual issues. None are free. there all become a member pay so much Penis EnlargementR month. There not a 1 time fee like here to be a member. They want you to buy books, tools, membership etc.. Theres enough info in the free forums here, that you dont have to spend a penny to gain.
Bottom line buying these products is still alot cheaper then spending 10grand for someone to cut your dick open.
If I have to spend $500 to gain an inch both ways. guess what, well worth it. Hell people spend $10,000's to gain a 1/10 second in 1/4 times. My company just spent $20,000 just to make my store look better. It didnt increase my sales though.

DLD do what you have to do. You will still have alot of guys supporting you 100%
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You seem to be misinformed. Where has DLD claimed gains from the "Dynamic Loop"??? I asked him several times in this thread and he dodged the question.
 
sorry I got off the subject. I was just speaking about sales in general. From some of the posts, people seem mad because everything isnt given to them. Nothing is free in life. You pay for everything in one way or another.
 
chads said:
sorry I got off the subject. I was just speaking about sales in general. From some of the posts, people seem mad because everything isnt given to them. Nothing is free in life. You pay for everything in one way or another.
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I don't think anyone is mad that things aren't free, but they are mad that DLD is selling products which have been thoroughly discredited. It makes a person think he is only out to make a profit off his members.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
So many guys have been looking for the ring of power so I just started producing my version on the ROP called the MOS Dynamic Loop, it is basically the same production with the only difference being color and inventory. I have my shop set up and ready to ship orders.

I am charging 49.95 (just like everything:))

Is it the same type as Supra's? one piece of 2" Zinc, one 2" piece of Copper tube, both 3/8" in diameter, joined by two pieces of 3" x 5/8" latex tubing? Or is your ROP made similar to the one from the UK that cost around $150.00? I cannot remember the name of the Dr who made it.
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