Kingsnake on Injecting IGF-1 LR3 into the CC for cell divison and growth

Hey fellas. I've kept this to myself but for the last couple of weeks I've been studing up on IGF -1 LR3, better known as Insulin-like Growth Factor Long R3.

Bodybuilders have been using this stuff for a hot minute now to cause hyperplasia incourage cellular divison in there skeletal muscles. I have come across various bodybuilding sites and even Penis Enlargement sites where members have been injecting with IGF directly into there CC and reporting girth gains weeks to months after.

From the studies I've read to keep the IGF locally in the penis to attached to recepter sites, one has to use a cock ring or clamp for 10 to 20 minutes so most of the IGF stays in the penis and has time to bind to available receptors in the CC and not go systemic. A couple of members have said that after a couple of weeks of using IGF they can feel there CCs expanding and pushing against the tunica since the tunica has not yet grown to accomidate the newly grown CC inside. They call it the stuffed sausage feeling. Some members even said that the continued pressure of the CC against the tunica eventually caused the tunica to expand as well to releave the pressure.

The protocal is to first apply some form of stress to the penis like stretching, hanging or girth work to stimulate a growth/healing response. After the penis has been properly worked then you would work up to a semi erection and clamp it off with a constriction device then you would inject 10 to 20mcgs of IGF into the CC and leave it clamped off for 15 to 20 minutes so most of the IGF stays in your penis and has time to attached to receptors and start the growth/ cell division process.

Members from other Penis Enlargement sites have been reporting huge girth gains from this protocal after weeks to a couple of months of taking it. One particular member from Penis Enlargementgym named stagestop has reported a 1.5 inch gain in girth from a little over a year of taking IGF. One good thing about IGF is you can order it off the web and it doesn't require a priscription. Im thinking about getting some but before I do, I would like to share information about IGF with members here that have more experiance with it.

One thing that worries me about it is if IGF stimulates celluar divison in smooth muscle, skeletical muscle, and soft tissue then could this also stimulate cell division in other organs like the heart and cause problems if it goes systemic.

I remember a long time ago Supra was experimenting with IGF but I never found out what results he had with it. Let's research this chemical guys and discuss the potential with IGF.

The problem is that it is a finit endproduct. This means you can get too much of it. It might throw your body off.
The pathway to IGF has some more processes involved. If the body somehow recognizes that IGF is enough already there it might not do the steps needed to produce igf naturaly.
This might mean in extreme case it stops it even if you stop external IGF. (or counteracting it).
Then you have the risk that it connects somewhere else in the body. Some doubts that it might let the prostata grow . You will mostly hear the heros who gained an inch EG but not the ones where it failed.

Thats for the bad part.

Personaly, as I read your posts, I think you have quiet some room to improve with basic building blocks. You did gain much from dedicated extreme non chempe exercises.
Why not maxing the stuff like vit e and amino acids out without much deconditioning first? You will gain that way probably too.
After that you still have room for stuff like DHT, Testos and IGF. By that time you have already a freaging 14 inch cock lol

If you just provide the building blocks the body will use them for what is needed. Means you train the smooth muscle or tunica and the body will use the stuff available to heal/grow.
If that doesnt do the trick anymore you might supply the endproduct for the body.

I think using it to the right time with the right helping supplements, to maximize the use, is key.
Thats why I woudl look into the pathway and how it is created to help the whole process i nthe right moments.

Using as less as possible to get growth is wise. Clamping it off after application is very good.
I would think to look into the whole process associated to IGF to get a good overview on where you are interacting in your body.

I will look these days further into it while researching for the dmso stuff. Just working my way up. Its like damn studying :D

i would not inject that into your penis as you must mix igf1 lr3 with acetic acid and acetic acid kills any tissue it is injected into for muscle its not bad because you rotate spots. just so you know igf1 lr3 is systemic all this means is it that no matter were you stick it you will have increased igf1 blood plasma levels for like 8 hr.

acetic acid has been used to kill tumors. from what i understand the reason you can't just use ba is because igf needs a certain ph levels to become active when reconstituted and to stay stable. . if you have never shot igf1 that shit stings like a bitch do to high ph level even when you dilute it.

If this is of any help, I think they use IGF-1 after injecting a vasodilator, such as PGE1(prostagladin). They call it a "potentiator" (the IGF1) which means it makes the original injection (vasodilator - PGE1) more potent.
Here's a link to some Penis Enlargement king (the inventor of the Divosuit) on his gains through injections. Dude went from 7x5.5 to 8.5x7 in 18 months I believe. He even has a newbie routine for injecting. Looks pretty cool, and seeing as how he invented the divosuit and has picture proof of his progression with the chemical Penis Enlargement, I think he's a very good role model and source of information:
http://www.chempe.com/2010/04/injections.html?zx=37d462b92f4592f3
Here's a link with more info:
http://www.chempe.com/search?updated-max=2011-02-17T17:11:00-05:00&max-results=100

Some greeezy shit
I looked into that chem pe site, looks interesting.
I wonder how much that shit costs?

Dapper Dan;495015 said:

Some greeezy shit
I looked into that chem pe site, looks interesting.
I wonder how much that shit costs?

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Peter south gave me a link where it costs 50$ for "PGE1 10ml x 100mcg/ml"

MikeShlort;495006 said:

If this is of any help, I think they use IGF-1 after injecting a vasodilator, such as PGE1(prostagladin). They call it a "potentiator" (the IGF1) which means it makes the original injection (vasodilator - PGE1) more potent.
Here's a link to some Penis Enlargement king (the inventor of the Divosuit) on his gains through injections. Dude went from 7x5.5 to 8.5x7 in 18 months I believe. He even has a newbie routine for injecting. Looks pretty cool, and seeing as how he invented the divosuit and has picture proof of his progression with the chemical Penis Enlargement, I think he's a very good role model and source of information:
http://www.chempe.com/2010/04/injections.html?zx=37d462b92f4592f3
Here's a link with more info:
http://www.chempe.com/search?updated-max=2011-02-17T17:11:00-05:00&max-results=100

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im not sure how the Penis EnlargementG1 could have anything to do with the fact you must use acetic acid to reconstitute the igf1 due to ph level with out correct ph level the igf1 will only last 2 days

here is a link to the specs on igf1 look at reconstitution

http://www.creative-biolabs.com/catalogueprotein/pdf/Long-R3-IGF-I (CRP0805).pdf

Interesting stuff Kingsnake, always awesome research.

Ok cool. I figured creating a thread about this would help with getting the full scoop on IGF before considering tryin it. From reading what members that inject igf on other Penis Enlargement sites, they say that the half like for igf is only 20 minutes so Im thinking with the use of a cock ring or constriction device for 20 to 30 minutes which they recommend, this will help keep the igf in the penis to bind to available receptors sites and by the time the cock ring is removed the igf's effects and binding ability will be just about done with before it causes any wide range systimatic effects. Won't be going this route though with the potential prostate problems that can come from it. Good research fellas. Still impressed with the gains that members over at the Penis Enlargementgym are saying they've gained from it.

Just found a member with extensive information on IGF on this link http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?11148-Know-Your-Igf-lr3igf&p=97986#post97986

kingsnake;495115 said:

Ok cool. I figured creating a thread about this would help with getting the full scoop on IGF before considering tryin it. From reading what members that inject igf on other Penis Enlargement sites, they say that the half like for igf is only 20 minutes so Im thinking with the use of a cock ring or constriction device for 20 to 30 minutes which they recommend, this will help keep the igf in the penis to bind to available receptors sites and by the time the cock ring is removed the igf's effects and binding ability will be just about done with before it causes any wide range systimatic effects. Won't be going this route though with the potential prostate problems that can come from it. Good research fellas. Still impressed with the gains that members over at the Penis Enlargementgym are saying they've gained from it.

Just found a member with extensive information on IGF on this link http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?11148-Know-Your-Igf-lr3igf&p=97986#post97986

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This makes much sense. A really tight clamped off dick for the max time and with a dose that is fully absorbed will probably stay local.
The perfect dose might not even reach the prostata as it is consumed by the smooth muscle tissue.
I think there is some limit to what amount the igf can bind inside the smooth muscle.

I wonder how IGF works in small doses and applied not every day but just right after a very intense workout where the tissue is ready to absorb. Maybe in combination with stuff that enhances the IGF penetration ability.
Like opening up the tissue with DMSO. Then a very intense workout and IGF on top of it while being clamped. Then apply stuff that helps the IGF and in turn the hyperplasia to go on smoothly.
Some(!) IGF users it seems just want the fast fix, without having to work, and this makes them prone to not using the perfect possible window.

For me at least a daily supplementing without a plan when and how to apply it is most efficient, is wasted due to the risks involved. Also in above link the guy -forgiven- states the following what I already suspected can happen:
"From all of my research, I suppose one of two things might have happened to prevent me from making further gains. What I truly suspect is that the Long R3 IGF-1 downregulated the amount of binding proteins being produced by my body"
Tough it was related to bodybuilding and thus a very systemic approach.

Hey dickerschwanz. Yeah for use of penis enlargment most users only inject 10mcgs into there units while clamped off. 10mcgs is really not that much to spread all through out the body. Most bodybuilders that inject it into there muscles use 75 to 100mcgs at a time.

Most chemical Penis Enlargementers that do this usuallly only inject 3 times a week and it's best done after a Penis Enlargement workout. The IGF-1 seems to work best on tissues that have just been stressed.

I also forgot to mention that for the use of enlarging the penis, IGF-1 is what we would want to use since that's the drug with the 20 minute half life.

IGF-1 LR3 on the other hand is a more potent form of IGF-1 with a half live of 12 to 20 hrs. This is something we don't want since we can't keep a tight constriction device on our dick for 12 to 20 hrs. With IGF-1 LR3 as soon as we take off the constriction device after 20 to 30 minutes the chemical will definitely spread through out the body and go systematic.

Just plan ol IGF-1 with it's 20 minute half life seems to be the safest and shows promising results.

diesel225;495043 said:

im not sure how the Penis EnlargementG1 could have anything to do with the fact you must use acetic acid to reconstitute the igf1 due to ph level with out correct ph level the igf1 will only last 2 days

here is a link to the specs on igf1 look at reconstitution

http://www.creative-biolabs.com/catalogueprotein/pdf/Long-R3-IGF-I (CRP0805).pdf

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I'm not sure it needs to last any more than 2 days?
From what I understand, the injections are done a good 3-5 times a week

kingsnake;495115 said:

Ok cool. I figured creating a thread about this would help with getting the full scoop on IGF before considering tryin it. From reading what members that inject igf on other Penis Enlargement sites, they say that the half like for igf is only 20 minutes so Im thinking with the use of a cock ring or constriction device for 20 to 30 minutes which they recommend, this will help keep the igf in the penis to bind to available receptors sites and by the time the cock ring is removed the igf's effects and binding ability will be just about done with before it causes any wide range systimatic effects. Won't be going this route though with the potential prostate problems that can come from it. Good research fellas. Still impressed with the gains that members over at the Penis Enlargementgym are saying they've gained from it.

Just found a member with extensive information on IGF on this link http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?11148-Know-Your-Igf-lr3igf&p=97986#post97986

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Can you post the link to the Penis Enlargementgym thread where they talk about their IGF gains? Thanks

Hey Mikeshlorts. Not sure if we're aloud to post links to other Penis Enlargement sites on here. Just to be on the safe side go to Thundersplace and there's a member there named stagestop that has IGF-1 in his chemical Penis Enlargement protocal. He's reported a 1.5 inch girth gain from it from the use of IGF-1. On the Penis Enlargementgym site go to the search bar and type in IGF-1 and a bunch of threads will pop up. Also if you go to google and type in igf-1 injections for penile growth, a bunch of info about it will pull up even on bodybuilding websites where they too talk about penile injections with IGF-1.

Always had a problem with the thought of a needle close to my dick. Also chemicals that aren't natural per say always made me look with caution. In the begging they seem to work great but after a while people notice ill effects. Of course it could also work wonders. My opinion is get as much info as you can before.Good luck anyway you go!

So true.
Id be so down
Haha

kingsnake;495115 said:

Ok cool. I figured creating a thread about this would help with getting the full scoop on IGF before considering tryin it. From reading what members that inject igf on other Penis Enlargement sites, they say that the half like for igf is only 20 minutes so Im thinking with the use of a cock ring or constriction device for 20 to 30 minutes which they recommend, this will help keep the igf in the penis to bind to available receptors sites and by the time the cock ring is removed the igf's effects and binding ability will be just about done with before it causes any wide range systimatic effects. Won't be going this route though with the potential prostate problems that can come from it. Good research fellas. Still impressed with the gains that members over at the Penis Enlargementgym are saying they've gained from it.

Just found a member with extensive information on IGF on this link http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?11148-Know-Your-Igf-lr3igf&p=97986#post97986

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your right king but they are confusing reg ig1 and the igf-lr3 the lr3 part of this is what they bonded to the igf1 to increase total life of the peptide form 20 min to 12 hr the reason for this is it is used by bodybuilders and the reg igf1 20 min life span was insufficient. most users claim more growth to the muscle it is injected in but technically it doesn't matte were you stick the lr3 as plasma levels are increased.


its like test enenthate or test cyp they are both are testosterone no difference at all the difference is the ester test has a half life of like an hr in the body but drug companies need viable so they add these esters on to the testosterone the difference in cyp and enenehthate if clearance time

cyp 12 days for total clearance peak plasma levels in 6 day this is called the half life.
enenthate 7 days 3.5 for peak plasma levels

my main objection to injecting it was due to the acetic acid not the igf1. if you are just using the ba water then i think it would be helpful and would cause hyperplasia. if your looking for just straight igf1 it will cost a lot less and may since you are only looking for the short duration and site specific work be the best choice. another one you might think of as even better is DES IGF1 it is short duration and is 1000 stronger then reg ifg1 but agin I'm not sure as the penis is not muscle and might not effect it like it does muscle mass.

im not sure if this would help but this is how bodybuilders use the igf1 r3 protocol they use mgf first then 15 min later inject igf1 in the same muscle group. the reason for this is mgf is like a cell activator and in the igf family but like most peptides they they are opposing so they can not be in the same place at the same time. then you induce the igf1 and it builds on the work the mgf did. I'm not sure if this would help in the penis but i thought i would mention it. maybe someone would try it.

i have been on the bodybuilding boards and some say just ba water will be fine so i would use that for injection.

this is from that article you have above.

"The dilutents you will need for the IGF are a weak concentration of Hydrochloric Acid And A Sterile Buffer(Sterile Water Or Bacteriostatic Water) the procedure for diluting the IGF is not very difficult, the dilutents can be obtained from most local chemical suppliers and a good source of IGF would also be able to supply the necessary dilutents."

i wouldn't inject hydrochloric acid or any acid into the penis this was all i was trying to say.

Never knew water would need to be so specific...why?