dogsdoodahs said:
sikdogg said:
In my personal opinion, the ideal protocol would include IGF... and would look something like this:

- Injections done every other day (EOD) containing PGE1 and IGF-1 with a goal of 3+ hour erection
- Topical application of DMSO just prior to applying DHT gel (while fully erect)
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Is there a risk of absorbing bacteria and other things we don't want to if DMSO is applied to the skin?
I have some and it takes ages to dry/soak in and disappear.
You are using too much if it doesn't completely absorb. Within a minute or two, you should be able to "taste" the DMSO in your body. Try using less.

Also, a bacteria is many magnitudes too large to permeate the skin. If a protein won't permeate the skin, then a bacteria has no chance. DHT is probably even pushing the transdermal limits of DMSO.
 
Pharmaceutical grade DSMO is ordorless, you can buy it here...

USP Pharmaceutical Grade DMSO (Dimethyl Sulfoxide) 125 Ml.

I wanted to add DMSO as a liniment as well as it ability as a penetration enhancer for the DHT gel. DHT gel is already pre-mixed as a transdermal, DMSO will simply enhance the transdermal properties of the gel. DMFA can be used as a (better) penetration enhancer but it doesn't work well as a liniment.
 
Hey there, I´m back.The chemical Penis Enlargement was pretty successful for me.At least my girth went up about 3/4 inch within about 9 months of injecting prostaglandin (from 5.5 to 6.25)
Unfortunately length stayed almost the same.That´s the reason why I´m on a decon break right now.
I hope that after restarting I gain at least half an inch in length.Right now I´m 8 bpel and trying to get rid of my fat pad.
Even though I´m pretty lean I still have a little over .5 inch of fat down there.
 
large1 said:
Hey there, I´m back.The chemical Penis Enlargement was pretty successful for me.At least my girth went up about 3/4 inch within about 9 months of injecting prostaglandin (from 5.5 to 6.25)
Unfortunately length stayed almost the same.That´s the reason why I´m on a decon break right now.
I hope that after restarting I gain at least half an inch in length.Right now I´m 8 bpel and trying to get rid of my fat pad.
Even though I´m pretty lean I still have a little over .5 inch of fat down there.
Did you do 30 minutes of stretching a day in conjunction with injections? Also how often did you inject, and how long were the erections?
 
sikdogg said:
Pharmaceutical grade DSMO is ordorless, you can buy it here...

USP Pharmaceutical Grade DMSO (Dimethyl Sulfoxide) 125 Ml.

I wanted to add DMSO as a liniment as well as it ability as a penetration enhancer for the DHT gel. DHT gel is already pre-mixed as a transdermal, DMSO will simply enhance the transdermal properties of the gel. DMFA can be used as a (better) penetration enhancer but it doesn't work well as a liniment.
Mr. Sikdogg,

I strongly advise against using DMFA, or recommending it to anyone for use as a transdermal. It is carcinogenic and toxic.
 
large1 said:
Hey there, I´m back.The chemical Penis Enlargement was pretty successful for me.At least my girth went up about 3/4 inch within about 9 months of injecting prostaglandin (from 5.5 to 6.25)
Unfortunately length stayed almost the same.That´s the reason why I´m on a decon break right now.
I hope that after restarting I gain at least half an inch in length.Right now I´m 8 bpel and trying to get rid of my fat pad.
Even though I´m pretty lean I still have a little over .5 inch of fat down there.
What do you plan to do differently next cycle in order to gain length? I would recommend hanging and extender usage.
 
Hi Goldmember,
I know that you and sikdogg may have the most knowledge about transdermanl and I would like to ask you about the dht gel. I have been using the gel for about a week or more but really am disapointed about my response. It's alright but I don't think I'm responsding to the gel like others have. If you have any insight to that, that would be great.
 
Cartman54 said:
Hi Goldmember,
I know that you and sikdogg may have the most knowledge about transdermanl and I would like to ask you about the dht gel. I have been using the gel for about a week or more but really am disapointed about my response. It's alright but I don't think I'm responsding to the gel like others have. If you have any insight to that, that would be great.
Tell a bit about your protocol (amount used, frequency, routine, etc.)
 
I normally injected the prostaglandin in the evening, put a rubber cockring on and stayed erect for at least 3 hours (sometimes up to 5).First 1.5 hours I didn´t do anything and then I did about an hour of girth workout (horse squeezes, bends, erect stretching).
After about 3 months I started stretching in the morning, when my penis was still sore from the workout in the evening.
It felt more stretchable and unbelievable intense.At one point I thought there was 1/8 inch in length gain, but I never measured 8 1/8 again.
Goldmember, I used to hang back in the days.From 6-9 sets (sometimes more) to hardcore hanging (don´t remember the weight, I think about 30 pounds, gotta check the Dashdeming´s hardcore hanging threat) and only gained little.
The only time I gained about .5 inch in length within 3 weeks was when I was stretching like crazy for about 1.5 hours a day.
I think of wearing my phallosan for 6-8 hours a day and do some blasters and sock stretches every hour.
I can create about 5-6 lbs of tension with the ADS, but don´t know how to avoid the goddamn water blisters.
 
Hi Gold,
Thanks for your response. I really don't have a protocol as you would call it. I would put on a ring of power and then use 1.25g's or 2.5 in the morning and then do some basic strecthes. I would watch �naked people movies� for stimulation but it would take some time for me to get an erection. I guess I was under the impression that the gel was a magic potion but I will continue to use it.
 
Cartman54 said:
Hi Gold,
Thanks for your response. I really don't have a protocol as you would call it. I would put on a ring of power and then use 1.25g's or 2.5 in the morning and then do some basic strecthes. I would watch �naked people movies� for stimulation but it would take some time for me to get an erection. I guess I was under the impression that the gel was a magic potion but I will continue to use it.
I would devise a real Penis Enlargement routine in addition to the DHT gel. An ADS along with manual stretches sounds solid.
 
The PGE-1 has physical effects on the tunica that might make your hanging sessions productive for once. I suggest you try hanging again, this time right before your chemical erection.
large1 said:
I normally injected the prostaglandin in the evening, put a rubber cockring on and stayed erect for at least 3 hours (sometimes up to 5).First 1.5 hours I didn´t do anything and then I did about an hour of girth workout (horse squeezes, bends, erect stretching).
After about 3 months I started stretching in the morning, when my penis was still sore from the workout in the evening.
It felt more stretchable and unbelievable intense.At one point I thought there was 1/8 inch in length gain, but I never measured 8 1/8 again.
Goldmember, I used to hang back in the days.From 6-9 sets (sometimes more) to hardcore hanging (don´t remember the weight, I think about 30 pounds, gotta check the Dashdeming´s hardcore hanging threat) and only gained little.
The only time I gained about .5 inch in length within 3 weeks was when I was stretching like crazy for about 1.5 hours a day.
I think of wearing my phallosan for 6-8 hours a day and do some blasters and sock stretches every hour.
I can create about 5-6 lbs of tension with the ADS, but don´t know how to avoid the goddamn water blisters.
 
Anyone got a link to order the gel??

How often do you put it on??

Its a topical gel right??

And can anyone tell me how it works,how much it is?
 
X-Raided said:
Anyone got a link to order the gel??

How often do you put it on??

Its a topical gel right??

And can anyone tell me how it works,how much it is?

I know this seems like a good thing to jump in to, but messing with hormones is something that should be taken very seriously. Your mood can alter extremely and other concerns can include but not be limited to hair loss, acne and even cancer. BUT, you can find some more info on DHT and where to order it and other stuff in this thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penile-products-reviews-links/26717-dht-gel-new-post.html .
 
PenilePersist said:
I know this seems like a good thing to jump in to, but messing with hormones is something that should be taken very seriously. Your mood can alter extremely and other concerns can include but not be limited to hair loss, acne and even cancer. BUT, you can find some more info on DHT and where to order it and other stuff in this thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penile-products-reviews-links/26717-dht-gel-new-post.html .
Keep in mind, since the application is localized, it requires a small dosage...we're talking about 250mg per week.
 
goldmember said:
dogsdoodahs said:
You are using too much if it doesn't completely absorb. Within a minute or two, you should be able to "taste" the DMSO in your body. Try using less.

Also, a bacteria is many magnitudes too large to permeate the skin. If a protein won't permeate the skin, then a bacteria has no chance. DHT is probably even pushing the transdermal limits of DMSO.

Mr member, this is the DMSO I am applying,

DMSO, Pure DMSO, Nature's Gift, 4 fl oz

I do a girth workout 3 times a week) then apply the DMSO and then 1.25G of Andractim cream.

I applied less DMSO today using a cotton bud but I wonder if any really gets through to the Tunica and suspect the skin soaks it all up.

The DHT cream absorbs well and quickly (burns a bit) but again I suspect the skin absorbs it all so I might be wasting my time.
 
i would have though applying the DMSO after DHT would be more productive.

the more i read into chemical Penis Enlargement the more i want to try it. if only i had cash. lol. do you think PGE-1 (caverject) would work on its own?
 
goldmember said:
Mr. Sikdogg,

I strongly advise against using DMFA, or recommending it to anyone for use as a transdermal. It is carcinogenic and toxic.
Here's a summary of the bullitin about DMFA being a carcinogen and toxic...

Let me summarize the OSHA INFORMATION BULLETIN. There are actually 2 studies presented by this bulletin. The first addresses workers at an aircraft repair facility where they were exposed to inhalation of pure DMFA. The second deals with leather workers that were also exposed to inhalation of pure DMFA.

Factors that increase the possibility of testicular cancer:
family history of abnormalities
history of hernia
mumps
maternal hyperemesis gravidarum
prenatal ionizing radiation exposure
rural residence
exposure to pesticides or unrefined petroleum products
testicular trauma
wearing jockey-type undershorts
bicycle or horseback riding

According to the bulletin, riding a bike regularly is just as bad as inhaling pure DMFA for 3-15 years. In case you don't know...your lungs are much more efficient in getting things into your body than applying them to your skin. After all, your skin is designed specifically to keep things out. At a minimum we can conclude that application of DMFA to the skin should not be in excess of 3 years continuously. If one felt the need to dose a lotion for that long it would be in their best interest to look into other life saving measures such as therapy for their low self esteem.

STUDY #1 - AIRCRAFT REPAIRMEN
3 men were diagnosed with testicular cancer.
They set the time required for exposure at 3 years continuously before onset of symptoms. 3 YEARS!!!

STUDY #2 - LEATHER TANNER WORKERS
3 men were diagnosed with testicular cancer
In the first case, the man inhaled pure DMFA for 13 years before onset of symptoms.
In the second case, the man inhaled pure DMFA for 14 years before onset of symptoms.
In the third case, the man inhaled pure DMFA for 8 years before onset of symptoms.

As a direct comparison for applying a diluted solution containing DMFA this bulletin is poor. It does shed some valuable insight into the safety of the compound however. First, it should be common knowledge that inhalation standards are MUCH, MUCH lower due to the efficiency of your lungs at getting gasses into your body (and out). So, after 3-14 years of continuous inhalation there will be some complications.

DO NOT INHALE PURE DMFA FOR 3-14 YEARS CONTINUOUSLY.

DO NOT APPLY PURE DMFA FOR 3-14 YEARS CONTINUOUSLY.
 
dogsdoodahs said:
... I applied less DMSO today using a cotton bud but I wonder if any really gets through to the Tunica and suspect the skin soaks it all up.

The DHT cream absorbs well and quickly (burns a bit) but again I suspect the skin absorbs it all so I might be wasting my time.
DMSO has been used for year to treat sore joints so i do believe that it can penetrate to at least the tunica... it doesn't have to go through the tunica... it just has to get there.

It's primary purpose is as a penetration enhancer so that more DHT gets through the skin with each application of DHT gel.
 
EVO said:
i would have though applying the DMSO after DHT would be more productive...
It would actually be more productive to apply the DMSO before... what this does is prep the skin for better absorbtion of DHT. If you apply it after, you risk wiping off the DHT gel.
 
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