RED hit it on the head again. Woman can sit standards and we cant or we will be the most evil pig ever somehow. Thats life, even though she is making her seem like a whore looking for a big dick, she is also making us believe since Im not adult entertainment star big I dont have chance in hell. Even though I could smooth talk her panties off maybe the first night I have cancelled myself out cause Im not that big. Woman believe saying dumb shit like that makes there value sky rocket. We cant do that cause we are shallow somehow when its a male. Never fall for a trap like that, whenever you hear a girl throw all her standards out there its cause she has been hurt before by guys or she doesnt fell as if her self value is high enough and with a few words she can shot it right up. Even when here standards are size it may have nothing to do with that she just wants to seems like she is worth more than what she is by making her seems impossible to please sexually and in general.
 
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Thats right, its just a game to those emotional creatures and we as men NEED to see that and rise above it. Than when you are ready to be with a good women, she will see you as a real man, a good catch so to speak and when I say ''man'' its often twisted out of context by guys like David D and Hypnotica et al the guru's in the dating & seduction theatre, because I'm not talking about being a man that just seduces women to fuck and date, but being a REAL man .. a decent man who has principles and a life, going places and has all that shit sown up together. In other words what those guys fail to see or mention, is a real man is more than a seducer and once you can rise above this whole size bullshit being important to a women etc etc than that is a large leap to getting further along that track because women will use dick size ALLOT in our lives at some point, so be prepared for it and dont have a mental hailstorm when it comes ... easier said than done I know but still be ready and rise above.
 
REDZULU2003;376206 said:
Thats right, its just a game to those emotional creatures and we as men NEED to see that and rise above it. Than when you are ready to be with a good women, she will see you as a real man, a good catch so to speak and when I say ''man'' its often twisted out of context by guys like David D and Hypnotica et al the guru's in the dating & seduction theatre, because I'm not talking about being a man that just seduces women to fuck and date, but being a REAL man .. a decent man who has principles and a life, going places and has all that shit sown up together. In other words what those guys fail to see or mention, is a real man is more than a seducer and once you can rise above this whole size bullshit being important to a women etc etc than that is a large leap to getting further along that track because women will use dick size ALLOT in our lives at some point, so be prepared for it and dont have a mental hailstorm when it comes ... easier said than done I know but still be ready and rise above.

Great post RED!
 
"doing Penis Enlargement for our ego"

That is precisely the problem. Its great that some of us including me will admit to this. But the ego cannot be satiated. Ever.

It is constantly on the look-out for bigger, and better. Constantly. We want bigger cars, bigger bankrolls, girlfriend or mistress with the biggest ass or tits or thighs if thats your thing. Us wanting bigger penises is no exception. Even with the facts out there on how to truly pleasure a women, we cannot let go obsessing over our "small" penises.

I am Korean. So I have been hearing "small dicks" jokes since high school. Thats where the ambition to Penis Enlargement started for me. Because my ego felt "Ill SHOW THOSE FUCKERS!" Its childish anger and resentment. I am sure some of you had traumatic or not so serious/extreme experiences of someone commenting on your penis for being less than average or that it is average (So who wants to be average? Above average is better!) <------ Thats the thinking of the ego. It wants to be "above" everyone and size is just another thing the ego wants to exceed at. The only reason all of this fuss about penis sizes exist, is because we have created it.

Silly example but do you think dogs or cats worry about their penis sizes? Do animals worry about how their body looks? Do they get depressed about their genitals?

Some comments on here like "I want to be the biggest man she has EVER had and will NEVER be with another man like ME again" (paraphrased) "I want her to talk to her gfs about me" "I WANT THE WORLD AND EVERY GIRL TO KNOW HOW BIG MY COCK IS!!!!!"


Looking at it from outside the box, it does seem to be pretty comical and ridiculous. I do agree with a fellow forum member (forgot name) that it is most likely true we are projecting our insecurities onto women. Even if that not the case, Penis Enlargement or any other form of body transformation (working out, piercing, tattoos) should be done ONLY because we are trying to decorate our temple (body). We love our bodies (not egotistically) and should only be doing things to it because we love it and treasure it. Which is why I had to quit Penis Enlargement for a bit and reflect on why I was doing it. There are still very much egotistical reasons behind it of course, my ego cant help it. But I am still trying to make sure I am doing it because it makes me happy and not about getting the approval of a girl.


You should ask yourself what will a big dick get you that you dont already got? Is it the dream that a big dick will solve all your problems?

Personally, I naively thought getting a bigger dick will make me into a better man. That is so far from the truth. The length of your cock can only take you so far.

I am not speaking for anyone on this forum. I have no place for that. I am just making an observation of myself and maybe some of you could relate.

I think the biggest mistake any person can make is failing to see that by virtue of what you are, you are ALREADY enough for the girl or guy. You were just never enough for yourself. And this is what I am trying to see for myself, and hopefully before its too late it will reveal itself to me. Thanks for reading
 
I think some may do penis enlargement for ego but most do this for themselves and their self confidence. Animals do not have the level of consciousness we have and their only concerns are based in primal intuition. Humans are self-conscious and this means we notice things about ourselves that we wish to improve. If we did not have this characteristic we would be walking around with rotted teeth, dirty clothes (if any), unhealthy bodies, etc. Gyms would not be necessary (when was the last time you saw an animal working out to have a better body?), self improvement would not exist. We came into this existence to feel joy and happiness, being the best we can is part of this.
 
BTW what is the verified length record? As far as I know it is 12,5'' BPenis EnlargementL or BPFSL.

It amazes me that I even truly could have that claimed jonah falcon size if I gain like DLD.

In my case it is a bit different. I've always been unable to get the girls I want, but could have everyone that I didn't want. That is far more painful then just being rejected. Some day I really had a girl who I truly wanted. When that broke up I changed. Since then too big for her is the minimum of acceptance and I rather have that then pleasing her. It took me more than one yrar to admit that to myself, but I don't care.
 
doublelongdaddy;376434 said:
I think some may do penis enlargement for ego but most do this for themselves and their self confidence. Animals do not have the level of consciousness we have and their only concerns are based in primal intuition. Humans are self-conscious and this means we notice things about ourselves that we wish to improve. If we did not have this characteristic we would be walking around with rotted teeth, dirty clothes (if any), unhealthy bodies, etc. Gyms would not be necessary (when was the last time you saw an animal working out to have a better body?), self improvement would not exist. We came into this existence to feel joy and happiness, being the best we can is part of this.

I agree, I got into Penis Enlargement for a bigger dick of course. But most people strive for perfection and nothing will make a guy fell better than a bigger unit. Im 20 now but one day I will want to settle down and Im no model but a decent looking dude and I want to be to good to be true. attractive to woman, treat them with respect, and be able to please any woman.
 
You musta checked out his site too! I was suspicious of him after I couldn't find any info on the "studies" he was talking about except on the (pay for info) websites he linked to. Thanks RED. I'm just glad no one jumped on my ass for calling him out. I don't normally do that, but when people play on guys' insecurities with bogus or even questionable info for their own personal gain it really gets under my skin. Maybe I was a little aggressive in my approach but I wasn't just doing it for my own personal satisfaction. Some of the guys who are new here may not know a lot of the tricks and scams used by hucksters trying to make a quick buck at their expense and attempting to use this site's credibility to do it!
 
We were talking about a poster calling himself tdsmprojectcom. RED banned him and his posts were removed. He was citing bogus surveys and "studies" (which he himself conducted) to try to sell his stupid book on his website which he linked to. He was a fountain (or sewer) of misinformation, misconceptions and BS trying to play on guys' insecurities for his own profit. Some of his asinine posts can still be seen in other people's posts with quoting him. I started to question him and finally we got to the bottom of his ruse. RED, being the impeccable mod that he is, promptly showed him the door, saying " NOT ON THIS FORUM, MOTHERFUCKER!" as he gave him the boot.
 
Then he can get a side job at McDonald's or something. If his product is really worth a shit he wouldn't have to be dishonest to sell it. But he's gone now and we can all move on with our lives.
 
shortdick;672125 said:
:cool: D i think most bros here want to 10+ me included..LOL i want a Long n beautiful phyton hanging between my legs..:cool:

I will agree, 10 inches is the monster that would slay even the most adamant size queen.
 
Well beautiful could mean anything, but I see it as a feminine trait. I'd want a mean looking cock which has lots of ribs, and veins. I already have a little tanning which contrasts alot with the stretchmark on the bottom that you get from girthwork :cool:.
 
twins172_up;342374 said:
i agree with TheStick...some girls will look at 8" in length as too much..some can try to take 9" or 10" then there are some that is very content with the average size of 5" - 6" every chick is different..now if you are already in a relationship you can start gauging how much your woman can take over the time you pe and you are together...but i believe a lot of woman can adjust to the size of their guys
Or the girls classic "I had a guy 8 inches last week' I followed with take a rule and put our hands around it to measure his size. she said 'no way thats way too big' lol I said yup.
 
shortdick;672181 said:
pfff still got a lot of work to do......:)

I never want my work to end, the joy is in the journey!
 
doublelongdaddy;672664 said:
I never want my work to end, the joy is in the journey!

No PE for me today im tired as fuck n depression hit my soul again....

Hope i can start a good session tomorrow ....
 
shortdick;672688 said:
No PE for me today im tired as fuck n depression hit my soul again....

Hope i can start a good session tomorrow ....

Praying for You my Brother! God will watch over you!
 
Big is relative. Most men want 8 x 6 but others may want more or less. My goal is 12 x7 and I am close
 
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