No problem , just stating the hidden truth.

so yesterday felt good hanging, didnt get to extend much. EQ is back up after edging a little and doing base stretching while erect.

Not pumping as i thought tonight. Still curious to see if ill max out my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with new length though.
 
LOL, so i was about to start hanging and had to run errands................like literally 1 mins after i attached everything. So im just going to extend until i got to bed now that im back
 
So, Last night i did 3x20 hanging @ 17.5 lbs. New jump in weight just to stress my hanger and how much it can max and my ligs of coruse.
After warming up this will be my new starting weight. Ill drop down in weight if needed be. I believe the idea is to stress the ligs as much as i can so i can get more sessions with creep.
Been reading more creep in science journals. Although i only hand for an hour, i believe an increase in weight more than normal can influence the calculation in time under tension.
Might have to find some privacy so archive at least another session for hanging.


Also so add in, at this weight, BTC feels intense. Not a pain feel, but a stress in ligs feel. Once stop you feel a good stretch as in any type of stretch on a muscle. Even today when i stretch downwards i feel a sore muscle tension in base. althought ive been doing manly downward/btc angles my tug back in the 12 o'clock angel is almost gone.
 
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last night session was tough. went from 17.5lbs for the first session to 16 lbs for the last Very fatigued. Did 30 mins hanging this am as i might go out to watch ufc205 tonight and might end up not hanging. Was also tought as 16 lbs aswell 2x15 mins sessions with extending for 30 mins
 
yea didnt do any other pe last night. Just finished 2x20min hanging @ 17.5 and extending now.
in the PM ill do another 3 sets.
 
I know most people read [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] should be on for 8 hours however, look at this.

The surgical treatments, the researchers found, were dangerous and had “unacceptably high rate of complications.” But among the nonsurgical methods, at least one appeared to help grow a man’s member: the “traction method,” in which a penile [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] stretched the phallus daily, resulted in average growth of 0.7 in., or 1.8 cm, of the flaccid penis in one study. In another study of the same method, men reported an average increase of 0.9 in. (2.3 cm) in length while flaccid and 0.67 in. (1.7 cm) while erect.

These gains were hard-earned: in the first study, participants had to be in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] for four to six hours each day for a total of four months, and in the second study, the daily treatment lasted for six months.

In another study of two erectile-dysfunction patients, researchers found that the use of penoscrotal rings, which fit around the scrotum and base of the penis, helped beef up size and maintain erection. But given the tiny sample size of the study, the results were inconclusive.

Reviewed data also suggested that a six-month regimen of daily penis pumping — using a pump to create a vacuum inside a cylinder to stretch the penis while painful, was not effective.No matter the procedure, penis girth remained unchanged.

in another science journal i found this

"Length can be added by division of the penile suspensory ligament that tethers the penis to the pubic arch. This sounds like a simple solution, but remember the ligament was there for a reason. Dividing it will allow the penis to fall away from the pubis, giving some length (a couple of centimetres), but at a loss of the normal “angle” at erection. Also, this does not lengthen the skin, and so the peripenile pubic skin is often pulled onto the shaft of the penis, resulting in pubic hair growing from the penile shaft."

always wondered why i lost my 12 oclock erection angel and alot of hair on my mid shaft on my penis since pe and this finally confirms all the talks i had over the years about my speculations that these are indeed signs of growth in someway or another.
 
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Nolove;714193 said:
I know most people read [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] should be on for 8 hours however, look at this.

The surgical treatments, the researchers found, were dangerous and had “unacceptably high rate of complications.” But among the nonsurgical methods, at least one appeared to help grow a man’s member: the “traction method,” in which a penile [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] stretched the phallus daily, resulted in average growth of 0.7 in., or 1.8 cm, of the flaccid penis in one study. In another study of the same method, men reported an average increase of 0.9 in. (2.3 cm) in length while flaccid and 0.67 in. (1.7 cm) while erect.

These gains were hard-earned: in the first study, participants had to be in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] for four to six hours each day for a total of four months, and in the second study, the daily treatment lasted for six months.

In another study of two erectile-dysfunction patients, researchers found that the use of penoscrotal rings, which fit around the scrotum and base of the penis, helped beef up size and maintain erection. But given the tiny sample size of the study, the results were inconclusive.

Reviewed data also suggested that a six-month regimen of daily penis pumping — using a pump to create a vacuum inside a cylinder to stretch the penis while painful, was not effective.No matter the procedure, penis girth remained unchanged.

in another science journal i found this

"Length can be added by division of the penile suspensory ligament that tethers the penis to the pubic arch. This sounds like a simple solution, but remember the ligament was there for a reason. Dividing it will allow the penis to fall away from the pubis, giving some length (a couple of centimetres), but at a loss of the normal “angle” at erection. Also, this does not lengthen the skin, and so the peripenile pubic skin is often pulled onto the shaft of the penis, resulting in pubic hair growing from the penile shaft."

always wondered why i lost my 12 oclock erection angel and alot of hair on my mid shaft on my penis since pe and this finally confirms all the talks i had over the years about my speculations that these are indeed signs of growth in someway or another.

Great summary :)!

Got the sources?
 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC548174/

the other one i lost the link sorry, but im sure the study they quoted was from this link
Non-invasive methods of penile lengthening: fact or fiction? - Oderda - 2010 - BJU International - Wiley Online Library

its a good read however im sure majority read it before.

Several surgical techniques have been perfected to obtain penile girth enlargement. Among conservative methods, it has been claimed that penile [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] can increase penile circumference by 0.6–1 cm/month [22]. It is not clear why these devices should be effective in enhancing penile girth; it has been hypothesized that chronic [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] causes soft tissue cellular proliferation with tissue growth in a multiplanar fashion [19]. These findings, however, were not confirmed by a study by Gontero et al. [7], who found only negligible changes in penile girth after 6 months of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] therapy. Nikoobakht et al. [16] did not find significant changes in proximal penile circumference, either, although a significant difference was found in glans penile circumference. It is interesting, however, that no girth decrease was reported with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] therapy, as one would have instinctively thought.
 
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Nolove;714232 said:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC548174/

the other one i lost the link sorry, but im sure the study they quoted was from this link
Non-invasive methods of penile lengthening: fact or fiction? - Oderda - 2010 - BJU International - Wiley Online Library

its a good read however im sure majority read it before.

Several surgical techniques have been perfected to obtain penile girth enlargement. Among conservative methods, it has been claimed that penile [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] can increase penile circumference by 0.6–1 cm/month [22]. It is not clear why these devices should be effective in enhancing penile girth; it has been hypothesized that chronic [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] causes soft tissue cellular proliferation with tissue growth in a multiplanar fashion [19]. These findings, however, were not confirmed by a study by Gontero et al. [7], who found only negligible changes in penile girth after 6 months of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] therapy. Nikoobakht et al. [16] did not find significant changes in proximal penile circumference, either, although a significant difference was found in glans penile circumference. It is interesting, however, that no girth decrease was reported with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] therapy, as one would have instinctively thought.

This is in direct like with The Penis is a Balloon not a Rope.
 
Nolove;714436 said:
^ nice i remeber reading that thread . Sadly though there are too many theories on pe. lol.

Many theories indeed but in the Brotherhood we search for as much in law as we can.
 
I actually want to create a project with newbies . Pretty much take a group of 10 subjects who are new and out see an outcome. 5 with a theory vs 5 without use of a theory.

Anyways, ive been hanging still, 3x20 @ 17.5 finally set at 16. Body is taking it well thus far. EQ is getting lower by the day sadly ,however my EQ has always been bad since hanging. Might pump as that usually gets my EQ really high .

So plan is to hang for an hour or less then pump/clamp then take tomorrow off. Maybe ill do a compare photo from my old pumping photos to now.
 
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Nolove;714542 said:
I actually want to create a project with newbies . Pretty much take a group of 10 subjects who are new and out see an outcome. 5 with a theory vs 5 without use of a theory.

Anyways, ive been hanging still, 3x20 @ 17.5 finally set at 16. Body is taking it well thus far. EQ is getting lower by the day sadly ,however my EQ has always been bad since hanging. Might pump as that usually gets my EQ really high .

So plan is to hang for an hour or less then pump/clamp then take tomorrow off. Maybe ill do a compare photo from my old pumping photos to now.

What will your experiment be.
 
To be honest, mainly the lot theory due to the fact that studies all point to the Suspensory ligament as the benefactor of penis lengthening. I would also love to follow that theory with TGC theory. I know it may be a small sample size but its will be interesting to see the developments.
 
Nolove;714597 said:
To be honest, mainly the lot theory due to the fact that studies all point to the Suspensory ligament as the benefactor of penis lengthening. I would also love to follow that theory with TGC theory. I know it may be a small sample size but its will be interesting to see the developments.

Hmm yeah the many theories should be tested.
 
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you two are right lot is BS, however in other forums some people still believe it. TGC is interesting also.
 
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