Unfortunately I don't believe the bruising is fading anymore. It seems like I'm stuck with it. I'll give it another week or so of just length work. I'm also using a heat pad throughout the day. Hope i get some progress. If not I will start back into jelqing and order the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].

On that note is there any pre conditioning I can do to prepare for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or will it be fine?
 
Vinc17;691533 said:
Unfortunately I don't believe the bruising is fading anymore. It seems like I'm stuck with it. I'll give it another week or so of just length work. I'm also using a heat pad throughout the day. Hope i get some progress. If not I will start back into jelqing and order the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].

On that note is there any pre conditioning I can do to prepare for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or will it be fine?

You should always precondition any routine by starting with Bundled Stretches as explained in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. This will prime the penis to take on much more expansion of elongation as when we do Bundled Stretches we are stretching the very dense Tunica. I also suggest that you also follow the direction on [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] use in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread. This will teach you how to avoid many of the pitfalls men find when they do not do proper research. As far as the discoloration goes, there is a cure and you can find it here: Discoloration Treatment
 
Thanks for the link to the treatment. I tried it and it's hard to tell whether there is any difference. I tried some girth work, 5x5x3 on jelqs & SSJs. Great expansion and no effect on the bruising. I suspect it is either permanent or will take a long time to fade, Fortunately it on the underside which won't really be seen all that much either way.

I have ordered the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words]. I am excited to start using it. I will be using 5x5x3 on it with SSJs, as well as doing length work in the morning if possible(morning wood tends to make this difficult).

Really looking forward to making girth gains. In terms of length, I am just around 6.5" BPEL which is .3" over my starting stats after very little length work which is great. I hope to get over 7" BPEL, but I want to make my girth goals first.

As for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I do have a question. Does the temporary expansion happen every single time? So if I were to use it everyday, I am likely to be temporarily expanded all the time?
 
Vinc17;692018 said:
Thanks for the link to the treatment. I tried it and it's hard to tell whether there is any difference. I tried some girth work, 5x5x3 on jelqs & SSJs. Great expansion and no effect on the bruising. I suspect it is either permanent or will take a long time to fade, Fortunately it on the underside which won't really be seen all that much either way.

I have ordered the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words]. I am excited to start using it. I will be using 5x5x3 on it with SSJs, as well as doing length work in the morning if possible(morning wood tends to make this difficult).

Really looking forward to making girth gains. In terms of length, I am just around 6.5" BPEL which is .3" over my starting stats after very little length work which is great. I hope to get over 7" BPEL, but I want to make my girth goals first.

As for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I do have a question. Does the temporary expansion happen every single time? So if I were to use it everyday, I am likely to be temporarily expanded all the time?

Looks like a good plan. Gaining girth with the 5x5x3 routine in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] will always bring a temporary gain and this is exactly what we want to see. As these temporary gains become cemented, or made permanent, new temporary gains will come and the process repeats. On the bruising, I can relate, but you know what? I will take a bruised big cock over a perfect average cock. :)
 
The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] arrived today and I got my first session in.

Bit of fiddling about at first as I couldn't get it to make a seal in the shower and then I decided to take a bath instead.

I did 5x5x3 with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s

Unfortunately I got minimal expansion. Great flaccid changes, but when erect I got 0.2" temporary expansion at most. Minimal fluid retention.

I will wait til tomorrow to try again and see if I can get better expansion with it. Any advice would be great.
 
Did you use a cock-ring after your girth session?
Did you repump every 30-60min to keep the expansion?
Have you tried using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]shower strap[/words] of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], this coudl give you a better seal while taking a shower?
 
Munto;692186 said:
Did you use a cock-ring after your girth session?
Did you repump every 30-60min to keep the expansion?
Have you tried using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]shower strap[/words] of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], this coudl give you a better seal while taking a shower?

Hey, I repumped every min or so to keep expansion during the 5 min sets. I noticed that the length I got in the tube was about the same as my length anyway, but it did look much thicker. When I pulled it off to do SSJs, my penis looked normal.

An hour later now(wore a cockring until now), the expansion has gone - some soreness in my penis also but no red dots or bruising which is great - in fact the bruising I do have looks faded slightly.

I believe this may be due to pumping to max expansion too quickly. I pressed it down once or twice and i was at max expansion straight away. I went in semi-erect. I will use half pumps to slowly get up to max expansion next time.
 
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Once you're dick has become accustomed to the 'stock' [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], my suggestion would be to add the VacuVin mod. What this does to your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] is the equivalent of adding nitrous and a turbo to your engine...night and day difference, (but be careful, start slowly and listen to your body).

Just my $0.02
 
Vinc17;692192 said:
Hey, I repumped every min or so to keep expansion during the 5 min sets. I noticed that the length I got in the tube was about the same as my length anyway, but it did look much thicker. When I pulled it off to do SSJs, my penis looked normal.

An hour later now(wore a cockring until now), the expansion has gone - some soreness in my penis also but no red dots or bruising which is great - in fact the bruising I do have looks faded slightly.

I believe this may be due to pumping to max expansion too quickly. I pressed it down once or twice and i was at max expansion straight away. I went in semi-erect. I will use half pumps to slowly get up to max expansion next time.

That's what repumping is for :)!
 
Big Schwanz Acht;692195 said:
Once you're dick has become accustomed to the 'stock' [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], my suggestion would be to add the VacuVin mod. What this does to your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] is the equivalent of adding nitrous and a turbo to your engine...night and day difference, (but be careful, start slowly and listen to your body).

Just my $0.02

That is my 2 cents also. The WineVac is the jump off!!!
 
doublelongdaddy;692223 said:
That is my 2 cents also. The WineVac is the jump off!!!

I would like to do this, but I think it'll be a while before my penis is used to it. I get a lot of strong sensations in it already during use I can definitely feel the tissues being stretched quite intensely.

I tried the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] again today, this time for a full 15 minutes (will be doing 5x5x3 later). Again, no expansion. Not quite sure what I'm doing wrong.

Edit: Upon further use I realised I may have been using too much pressure in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I had previously been pushing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] down all the way repeatedly until it could not compress further and did not retract after. This was very intense, and I reached in the tube just over my BPEL. It was also very painful on some of the surrounding flesh. I released some pressure and still got that stretching feeling in my penis - and visibly the same amount of expansion however I did not get as far in the tube. I will stick to using this lower pressure for now. I got a bit of expansion after doing this, around 0.1-0.2" at most. I am hoping to see some progress in the coming weeks. My length has improved from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] use as well it seems, I reach over 6.5" BPEL after the pump had long gone. I will continue stretching, I seem to gain length relatively easy, 7" BPEL would be great.
 
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Sounds good, being progressive in this game is very important. Take your time, master the tool before going all out!
 
PE is such an incremental exercise that you can't actually see any marked changes until you've had a chance to look-back 6 months...a year...two years. I wish I had documented from the beginning so I could have imperial evidence because there are times when my mind doesn't accept what the gauge on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is saying...I'm just thankful that [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] put that flimsy sticker on the tube in the first place, lol. Maybe swill this around in your brain: a .01" gain every week would equate to .04 per month and .48 per year and .96 over two years...I'd say that'd be well worth the effort
 
Starting to get the hang of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] now.

I am trying to cut out adult entertainment and masturbating as much as I do, so I'm avoiding [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s as I need the adult entertainment to perform them, which leads to me usually masturbating after my girth sessions.

I am doing 5x5x3 now with dry jelqing instead. I got the best expansion I've had so far using this. Although as a lot of people report, they start to get less expansion after using it many days in a row, so I decided I will take Sundays off and just focus this day on kegels and recovery, using a hot wrap several times.

I'm having trouble fitting in length work, if I don't masturbate I can't get flaccid so can't do any length work. I may look into something more passive, such as all day stretching or hanging.

After doing more research I'm going to try be more aggressive on dealing with the bruising. I found it may be hemoseridin staining which is unfortunate if true. I am first going to try some high strength arnica cream, as well as using the apple cider vinegar more often. I read about placing effervescent vitamin c in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and using low pressure pumping as well to deal with the staining, it apparently helps absorb the iron, so I will give that a try too.
 
I am glad you are using the 5x5x3, this is the best possible way to bring girth. Your length issues can be dealt with also in a few different ways. You can opt for erect stretching and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] Hardcore Stretches, both are formidable length exercises. You can also train length during fatigued periods or periods of refraction (post orgasm state) where the PC muscles are too weak to hold back the stretch. You could also opt for a device like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] to supplement your length work under your clothes. Finally, you could opt for a girth only routine and tackle length later on. The choices are all yours and I hope I helped.
 
Hey guys. Another week down on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I have decided to just get to length later. I haven't measured yet - I'm trying to avoid it. But I feel a bit thicker and longer most of the time. I will measure at the end of the May. Hopefully I will have gotten over 5" girth by then. My goal is 5.5".

My routine has remained the same 5x5x3 with one handed dry jelqs.

Interestingly, my bruising has reduced in diameter and may have begun to fade which is great. However, I get lots of red and purple dots every session. Am I pumping too hard?

Looking forward to gains!
 
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Vinc17;693739 said:
Hey guys. Another week down on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I have decided to just get to length later. I haven't measured yet - I'm trying to avoid it. But I feel a bit thicker and longer most of the time. I will measure at the end of the May. Hopefully I will have gotten over 5" girth by then. My goal is 5.5".

My routine has remained the same 5x5x3 with one handed dry jelqs.

Interestingly, my bruising has reduced in diameter and may have begun to fade which is great. However, I get lots of red and purple dots every session. Am I pumping too hard?

Looking forward to gains!

Al sounds like good stuff happening. I have market my calendar for the end of May and I know you are going to make great gains!
 
Vinc17;693739 said:
My routine has remained the same 5x5x3 with one handed dry jelqs.

Why dry jelqs?
I always thought they could cause skin iritations and be dangerous as opposed to wet/lube jelqs.
 
Hey. Another week down. Definitely noticing some differences in my hand and my gf noticing too now. I know there's not much change but I hope to break 5" girth. I've been pumping with slightly lower intensity and seem get similar expansion without as much discolouration or red spots.

As for the order of the exercises, i tend to pump first and then jelq and repeat. Would it be better to pump second instead?

Munto;694186 said:
Why dry jelqs?
I always thought they could cause skin iritations and be dangerous as opposed to wet/lube jelqs.

I use dry jelqs because it seems to be the general consensus that they improve girth better than wet jelqs and it forces me to do some kegels during to keep the blood trapped which helps EQ. Lube also tends to irritate the skin on my penis and I get a spot somewhere usually which is not too pleasant. I would prefer to use squash jelqs but I need higher erection levels to perform them and I want to avoid lots of adult entertainment. I'm thinking about trying to use the fast squash jelq instead. What do you guys think?
 
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