I mean he has a huge penis but what I heard that most of the time due to that condition those guys are not able to use their penis that well.
 
Could anyone? If you've gone from average girth to nearly 8 inches like that guy, you're roughly doubling the volume of blood the penis holds, meaning that your original PC muscle is going to be woefully inadequate. Gradual PE gives plenty of time for a guy to build up to filling his new size, instant PE does not.
 
Shenlong;630570 said:
Could anyone? If you've gone from average girth to nearly 8 inches like that guy, you're roughly doubling the volume of blood the penis holds, meaning that your original PC muscle is going to be woefully inadequate. Gradual PE gives plenty of time for a guy to build up to filling his new size, instant PE does not.

Yes, I do agree with this 100%. As the male penis enlarges (the cells inside the penis grow in numbers) it does require more blood to be filled 100%. This means that Pelvic Floor MUST be regularly exercised through PE! :)
 
Sickle cell anemia is baaaad mojo. The overall effect of it is that the red blood cells don't deliver oxygen properly. Also because the red blood cell don't have a normal shape they can get stuck in smaller vessels and create lower blood flow on top of the lack of oxygen going to the other cells. Obviously this isn't going to enhance a person's sexual fitness. It's a very serious condition.
From some quick research on the subject of Sickle-cell induced priapism leading to megalophallus there is one case where the man had permanent penis elargment from [only] "one intense" [!] episode of priapism. The researchers speculated that it was because of permanent loss of elasticity in the tunica.
Very interesting. This lends credence to the technique of clamping. In that respect clamping is essentially auto-induced priapism. If anyone is willing to go through one really intense clamping session for permanent gains maybe this is the fastest road to PE...
Rather fraught with danger though, I suspect. Sounds like slow and steady wins this race.
 
FireDragonLeo;630573 said:
Sickle cell anemia is baaaad mojo. The overall effect of it is that the red blood cells don't deliver oxygen properly. Also because the red blood cell don't have a normal shape they can get stuck in smaller vessels and create lower blood flow on top of the lack of oxygen going to the other cells. Obviously this isn't going to enhance a person's sexual fitness. It's a very serious condition.
From some quick research on the subject of Sickle-cell induced priapism leading to megalophallus there is one case where the man had permanent penis elargment from [only] "one intense" [!] episode of priapism. The researchers speculated that it was because of permanent loss of elasticity in the tunica.
Very interesting. This lends credence to the technique of clamping. In that respect clamping is essentially auto-induced priapism. If anyone is willing to go through one really intense clamping session for permanent gains maybe this is the fastest road to PE...
Rather fraught with danger though, I suspect. Sounds like slow and steady wins this race.

This is an amazing post! I as well linked this with clamping (which is said to be the most intense form of PE). Basically the environment created is the same (blood stuck with no oxygen...). Do you think this proves that clamping is a big no-no (even though MANY have gained A LOT from clamping and swear by its effectiveness (those who oppose that- well they are wrong) and say that it is absolutely safe to do (if you are cautious enough though)). If we were to be kept away from every single thing that could lead to harm- we'd do absolutely nothing! Lifting weights, penis enlargement etc.- whatever people do- if they are not well informed on what they actually do and are not cautious enpugh- the end result would most probably be serious injury. BUT, what do people think?

1- "So this makes great gains (in an unhealthy way),but clamping mimics this medical issue (working on the same principle, which means that clamping is the secret to massive gains) just without the horrifying effects of this in a completely controlled way (the user can choose how much he wants to gain)".

2- "Well if this is SO dangerous and is basically the same as clamping- this means clamping is a big NO-NO!".

What do you think guys, I really want to see a good discussion! :)
 
Zambrodom3, very interesting observations and questions!

I haven't tried clamping, but I agree that you can't live life fully without taking some risks.

With clamping you are slowing down venous return, thereby keeping blood in the penis.
At a cellular level the danger comes when the penis cells don't get oxygen in and can't transport CO2 and other metabolic wastes out. If this goes on too long it results in (dun...dun...dun) CELLULAR DEATH! Not cool. You don't want your penis cells to die, obviously.

That said, there is probably an acceptable balance of cellular death vs. penis enlargement. Cells are always dying and being replaced.
 
HEHE the old megaphallus discussion.
Was always the question if the lack of oxygen leads to a proliferation. Whatever it is the negative effects are probably too heavy so it makes no sense to test that. So I think thats rubbish
BUT, one who is already used to clamping and exercises could do under controlled conditions a clamping marathon with many sets to supply enough oxygen
Big girtha I think did this on some ocassions and the guy did gain a lot ( I believe him).

The theory would be as posted above that the constant expansion would expand the tissue like constant tension in hanging and extending is giving results. The intensity then might not even be needed to be that high. Which means girth expansion below the elvel that is reached in a maximum clamp session.

Anyway, if one would do such marathon I would supply in advance with vitamins and healthy foods to give all good nutrients.
One shouldnt start this cold from zero. Could end in a catastrophe and penis loss lol
Then have anti inflammatories there. At best some which can directly penetrate the penis like DMSO + vitamin C or E or whatever.

Im not sure how it would differentiate to chem pe where people create also long lasting erections. Which are often painfull and I think people wouldnt clamp during it. AND many did chem PE and gained nothing..

I would pop some vasidolators and no2 providers like L-Citrullin, gingko Biloba and clamp for 4-8 minute sets to avoid fluid buildup as much as possible.
Probably with Infrared heat all througout. Then I would end it with an ice bath and put some anitinflammatorie stuff on it (+ oral sup).
Next days light pumping, many erections, eating healthy, much vitamin C etc.

I might try it for the fun of it and check if I canr each something like 4 hours. Would be like 30-50 clamping sets lol.
 
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Or just go for as long as you can weekly increasing time every week. Stopping whenever you are entering painfull/unhealthy territory.
I could manage a hour of clamping sets with no problem. A clamping starter shouldnt do more then 5 minutes starting out IMO.
So you arrive maybe at 6 hours after some weeks or months "hopefully" with a healthy
MEGALLOPHALLUS :s
 
Great posts guys! So yes, as even REDZULU mentioned in his clamping book- the starting sessions should exceed no more than 5 minutes. It is now clear that short sets of clamping are the best to avoid all the negative effects and give the blood all the oxygen it needs. But what do you believe is the longest healthy time clamped- how long should a clamping session last at its longest- 15 min? :) Starting out with only 5 minutes- newbies might start getting adapted to the stress clamping gives to the penis and might get adapted to a level where their cell death occurs after the 15-20th minute? What do you think, as time passes and people get more experienced at clamping- do you think their "cell death time" continues to get further away from the basic 5 minutes or you think it is a certain period of time that does not change? :)
 
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Zambrodom3;630626 said:
Great posts guys! So yes, as even REDZULU mentioned in his clamping book- the starting sessions should exceed no more than 5 minutes. It is now clear that short sets of clamping are the best to avoid all the negative effects and give the blood all the oxygen it needs. But what do you believe is the longest healthy time clamped- how long should a clamping session last at its longest- 15 min? :) Starting out with only 5 minutes- newbies might start getting adapted to the stress clamping gives to the penis and might get adapted to a level where their cell death occurs after the 15-20th minute? What do you think, as time passes and people get more experienced at clamping- do you think their "cell death time" continues to get further away from the basic 5 minutes or you think it is a certain period of time that does not change? :)

The dick copes better over time and you can stay longer in the clamp.
But if you totally clamp off your unit with no inflow it doesnt matter that much cause if no oxygen is in the tissue it will die.
But its easy to gauge as pain, numbness, and early on color and temperature are clear that something is wrong.
Totally clamped of without flow you will always get problems after about 15 minutes..
I feel it makes no sense to go to that edge as it for me only produces fluid buildup and a not so good feeling as doing the same or more time but several sets.

I clamp mostly in a way that I can always kegel in blood which means fresh oxygen.
Then I open the clamp to let old blood out and close it again repeating it.
The pressure on tissue and tunica is always there even when I open the clamp.

Going at the edge of oxygen deficiant tissue makes only sense if you believe that this creates tissue enlargement...
So with opening the clamp and kegeling fresh blood in you can do as many sets as you like while having expansion all the time.
One could do it until real fatigue sets in like in hanging which I suppose will happen when you do a constant marathon clamping session.
 
Okay, I've made it a little project to understand the physiological dynamics of priapism and clamping. I'm in my last year at acupuncture school so I have a a pretty good knowledge base of basic physiology, but I'm not a doctor. I've been hesitant to try clamping because healthy function is my priority and I'm kind of hyper careful with my health, but maybe I will decide that clamping can be safe.
From my study I've found that there is 2 kinds of priapism- High Flow and Low-Flow.
High-Flow Priapism, also called Non-Ischemic (meaning that there IS sufficient oxygen) is usually caused by injury [sometimes by "traumatic coitus"- OUCHY!]. This is where the arterial blood flow into the penis is high, but the venous return (outflow) is normal. Usually this results in an engorged penis but no pain, and generally not much damage, other than the trauma that caused it.
Low-Flow Priapism is where the venous return is blocked, and can happen for a variety of reasons. The cause is often idiopathic- medical speak for "Uhh... we have no idea what the cause is". Erection is usually painful and the resulting lack of oxygen and acidosis will eventually cause tissue damage- cellular death and scar tissue formation.
Interestingly in low-flow priapism the corpus cavernosum are engorged but the corpus spongiosum and therefore the glans are soft/unengorged.
Having never clamped I want someone experienced with clamping to let me if this holds true for clamping.
Does the corpus spongiosum (the blood chamber around the urethra and glans) stay soft when you clamp? I'd appreciate if anyone was willing share their experience(s).
 
I didn't say it in the above post, but clamping is most like Low-Flow/Ischemic Priapism. I'm wanting to find out if the corpus spongiosum, and therefore the glans and tissue around the urethra, gets hard while clamping.That will tell us whether clamping is exactly low-flow priapsim or if the dynamics in the corpus spongiosum is a little different in clamping vs. priapism.
I suspect in clamping that the corpus spongiosum/glans may get harder than usual, compared to a normal erection, because in clamping the venous return is blocked even as compared to priapism.
The corpus spongiosum surrounds the urethra and creates the blood chamber in the glans. The venous return is different for the spongiosum than the cavernosa, so it stays softer in the corpus spongiosum than in the shaft of the penis, so that ejaculation (through the urethra) can occur.
I'm learning so much about the Penis! Love it!
 
FireDragonLeo;630769 said:
From my study I've found that there is 2 kinds of priapism- High Flow and Low-Flow.
High-Flow Priapism, also called Non-Ischemic (meaning that there IS sufficient oxygen) is usually caused by injury [sometimes by "traumatic coitus"- OUCHY!]. This is where the arterial blood flow into the penis is high, but the venous return (outflow) is normal. Usually this results in an engorged penis but no pain, and generally not much damage, other than the trauma that caused it.
Low-Flow Priapism is where the venous return is blocked, and can happen for a variety of reasons. The cause is often idiopathic- medical speak for "Uhh... we have no idea what the cause is". Erection is usually painful and the resulting lack of oxygen and acidosis will eventually cause tissue damage- cellular death and scar tissue formation.
Interestingly in low-flow priapism the corpus cavernosum are engorged but the corpus spongiosum and therefore the glans are soft/unengorged.
Having never clamped I want someone experienced with clamping to let me if this holds true for clamping.
Does the corpus spongiosum (the blood chamber around the urethra and glans) stay soft when you clamp? I'd appreciate if anyone was willing share their experience(s).
Clamping can be done safely in acontrolled enviroment.
You can also just try to clamp off an errection with your hands at the base for some seconds.
Its just very hand fatiguing. A clamp ensures same basic conditions everytime

Now regarding clamp experience in context to your question;
It depends on how you do the clamping.
In most cases you clamp enough to retard the outflow but manage to have the possiblity for inflow.
The inflow,also in normal erection, is mostly through the CS I suppose and drains into the CC?
(The BC muscle(wrapped around the BC muscle) pumps it in, which can be replicated by kegeling, and the IC muscle(wrapped around CC up to the base) clamps(retards) it of naturally)

To the max clamping: You will reach the point where you cant manage much more inflow.
The tissue is filled with blood and the tunica wont give more room for the tissues to expand.
At that point you can clamp even more tightly which traps the blood at full expansion. It cant flow out anywhere.
CS is expanded fully. Glans is expanded fully and the CC is expanded fully. No in and outflow.
You can hold that for some minutes(clamp vets maybe up to 20 minutes) before problems start. Dick gets cold and darker colour = oxygen gone.
So one could say a low flow priapism with fully engorged/filled CS and glans.
This of course is a fine line and if you clamp for too long you will have tissue death.
Might it lead also to a proliferation of tissue(in the attempt to be able to use more oxygen)? Could be but the risk is high.

You can also clamp in a way where there is always some inflow and some outflow present.
This can be achieved in less clamp force, kegeling blood in manually or edging which naturally pushes your dick to fill.
This way you can extend your session quiet considerably and you stay rather warm and normal colour for longer.
Still after some time, espacially in the CC, the dick gets gadually colder and shifts colour. I suppose the level of oxygen in the tissue goes down just more slowly.
The CC is mostly engorged to the near max. while CS and Glans are also engorged but not as much as with full out max clamping.
I suppose this is a bit in the vicinity of high flow priapism.

What I do is probably a mix of the above:
Clamp moderatly and slowly increase the engorgment with edging and kegeling until I manage to reach my max. This can take 2-8 minutes.
I then clamp totally of, no blood in no out, for a short time I hold the tissue at the max. expansion. For about 1-6 minutes.
I then release the clamp-pressure slowly long before the dick/blood is cold and start to kegel/edge in fresh blood while trying to maintain an errection. Takes again 2-8 minutes.
I do this until the clamp is fully released and I maintain a "natural" unclamped errection. This errection I maintain with kegels and edging.
The penis is then able to hold more blood because of the expansion of tissue prior due to the clamping. But this ability slowly fades if you just would edge for some time.
I then either stop or start clamping again to repeat all the above(1 set). Whole aim for me is to train me to be able to maintain size without clamp.
I can repeat that for some sets without any apparent sign of tissue damage. I usually stop when I get signs of fatigue or edema starts to be created in the skin.
Mostly I do 2-4 sets which can reach 30-40 minutes.
Its easily possible to do 90 minutes and with good preperation 2-4 hours should be possible too. This would then equate probably a errected time frame similar to priapism. I would like to doo it at some point :cool:
(of course only for trained people doing PE and clamping for months and years).
 
A disease... if that disease wasnt painful i wouldnt call it a disease at all big elephant trunk that guy has!!

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That is an elephant trunk. Nothing freaky-looking about that. Love to pull that out at the urinal.

Big girth like that - better than big length? I would think so. Big length without bigger girth doesn't impress me. You wants to see a long, skinny pencil?
 
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