sweets said:
NO doubt, I dread when my penga shrivels up, fucking turtling sucks, my body fat% is so low also, it doesn't look attractive at the least, but while not in a coma my flaccid has increased. I think even if someone has (with Penis Enlargement) increased their flaccid, will doing heavy excercises, or being hosed down, or sick, it'll always shrink down to your lowest piont, even if one did add on a couple of inches permanetly?!. I sincerely hope you the best, and having a
5''+ flaccid penis in your pants might spark some eyebrows for some like what the fuck, OK. Anyway their still taking a knife to your to where the lord split you, piont!



Gone are the days of shrivveling for me. My penis is retracted now, and hanging 1 inch lower than before. After each morning, I look down and it's hanging lower and lower. Today, it looks huge!
 
jkisineffect said:
man putting your penis in a strangers hand takes big balls - id rather pe for
10 years and gain 1 inch rather than having someone cut my lig's

what about 10 years from now? what if you cant get it up? just like plastic
surgery . In time it goes south . i would never in a million years do what you
did. good luck , you will need it:blush:



I have friends that have had this surgery even when it was primitive 10 years ago, and still have better and stronger erections than before surgery. Also think that most of these friends were severely botched at one point, and have had many corrective surgeries followed by more enhancement procedures.
 
penguinsfan said:
Hey Sparky, let us know if you want to continue long-term with manual Penis Enlargement and how it works for you. I bet the stretching techniques may yield more with the severed lig. ?:(


Stretching with a severed ligament is beauty. I will continue to stretch and hang for a long time.

In my case, I could never gain anything in terms of length because of my ligs were incredibly tough and deep. I tested my LOT when I first began P.E. and it was the lowest possible determining that any gains I would get would be slow in coming. This was confirmed when the Dr. said my ligs were twice as deep as any other guy an super tough to sever.
 
NewGuy311 said:
For length surgery they make an incision about an inch above the base of your penis, they dont even touch it. Yes, they do put you under Anestesia but some dont go totally under, some stay awake somehow.



I woke up during the surgery when they were suturing me. Wow, what a freaky experience that was. Very cool though.
 
Sparky 1 said:
Stretching with a severed ligament is beauty. I will continue to stretch and hang for a long time.

In my case, I could never gain anything in terms of length because of my ligs were incredibly tough and deep. I tested my LOT when I first began P.E. and it was the lowest possible determining that any gains I would get would be slow in coming. This was confirmed when the Dr. said my ligs were twice as deep as any other guy an super tough to sever.


How long u plan to stretch and hang for Sparky? After i get mine done, i plan to go for a full year, than retire and do small maintenence like 1-2 times a week just for the hell of it.
 
NewGuy311 said:
How long u plan to stretch and hang for Sparky? After i get mine done, i plan to go for a full year, than retire and do small maintenence like 1-2 times a week just for the hell of it.



Yes, I plan on hanging with a vacuum hanger for the rest of my life, along with pumping, and weighted pumping (Vacu-trac).
 
NewGuy311 said:
Did u see my question Sparky? Also that looks awesome, did you gain the extra inch from the lig cutting alone?




Yes, the gain was from the ligs being severed. Call me up anytime man if you have more questions.
 
Sparky 1 said:
Yes, the gain was from the ligs being severed. Call me up anytime man if you have more questions.


Goddamn dude now im real excited. I will be calling you later man, thanks alot for your help. You, Dan and Robbie are come cool friggen people.
 
NewGuy311 said:
Goddamn dude now im real excited. I will be calling you later man, thanks alot for your help. You, Dan and Robbie are come cool friggen people.


Hey thanks man, we are all here to help. It's like a brotherhood I swear, you help someone, then it comes back to you in other ways. Good Karma.
 
Sparky 1 said:
Hey thanks man, we are all here to help. It's like a brotherhood I swear, you help someone, then it comes back to you in other ways. Good Karma.


NP, and yeah man thats what makes it as awesome as it is. BTW, when you say the rest of your life, for maintenence, do you plan to do it every day even after a year of serious training? I honestly want to train less if not at all after a certain point, but ill always more than likely do it once a week after a year of training. However i def want to stop at some point.
 
NewGuy311 said:
NP, and yeah man thats what makes it as awesome as it is. BTW, when you say the rest of your life, for maintenence, do you plan to do it every day even after a year of serious training? I honestly want to train less if not at all after a certain point, but ill always more than likely do it once a week after a year of training. However i def want to stop at some point.


I plan on doing it seriously for a while, maybe 4-5 years, then going to strictly maintenance which will be maybe 2-3 times a month. I like you do not want to hang 4-5 times a week forever.

-S
 
Sparky 1 said:
I plan on doing it seriously for a while, maybe 4-5 years, then going to strictly maintenance which will be maybe 2-3 times a month. I like you do not want to hang 4-5 times a week forever.

-S




Hmmm, why do you plan to do it so long though? Is it because your goals will probably take that long to achieve? All i want is 5 plus flaccid and 7.7-8 erect, which im not far from. I figured a year would be more than enough for me, because im 7-7.5 right now. Do you think i have the right outlook on the time frame here or what bro?
 
"Wineland. Thank the Lord I did not go with Rheinschild. I almost did when he was with TLE"

You are the first person that I have ever heard (in my 12+ years of research) who had something BAD to say about Dr Rheinschild. Why the harsh words? I'm having the surgery myself this year and always felt I'd go with Gary. Fill me in please....?:(
 
stillwant9 said:
"Wineland. Thank the Lord I did not go with Rheinschild. I almost did when he was with TLE"

You are the first person that I have ever heard (in my 12+ years of research) who had something BAD to say about Dr Rheinschild. Why the harsh words? I'm having the surgery myself this year and always felt I'd go with Gary. Fill me in please....?:(



Dr. Rheinschild was AWESOME in his day, but now turned very greedy. His hands shake violently and his practice has taken a dive for the worse. There are so many lawsuits pending for him right now, and his days of a plastic surgeon are soon over. I personally know three people that have been severely botched by Rheinschild, some of which lost complete feeling in their penis. If you are a member of other discussion site Forums, read 8-Ball's surgery thread. He had the surgery done with Gary, and now is smaller than before.
 
NewGuy311 said:
Hmmm, why do you plan to do it so long though? Is it because your goals will probably take that long to achieve? All i want is 5 plus flaccid and 7.7-8 erect, which im not far from. I figured a year would be more than enough for me, because im 7-7.5 right now. Do you think i have the right outlook on the time frame here or what bro?


Did you see this post Sparky?
 
NewGuy311 said:
Did you see this post Sparky?



Sorry, didn't see it

I don't think you will have any trouble gaining that much, but it all depends on your anatomy. Most people gain .5 inch without any post op when they heal (4 weeks). Then, once you start training, it's all over from there because remember, the lig is severed, which hold most people back. Also, you are young like me, and dude, we recover so fast. I'm about to post a before/after, then you can see how much I gained in length even when my unit is retracted because of the trauma/pain.
 
Sparky 1 said:
Sorry, didn't see it

I don't think you will have any trouble gaining that much, but it all depends on your anatomy. Most people gain .5 inch without any post op when they heal (4 weeks). Then, once you start training, it's all over from there because remember, the lig is severed, which hold most people back. Also, you are young like me, and dude, we recover so fast. I'm about to post a before/after, then you can see how much I gained in length even when my unit is retracted because of the trauma/pain.


Thanks alot for the replies man, they are greatly appreciated dude. Wow, that is a hell of a difference dude, thats amazing. Your hung pretty well now, and thats with retraction and not being completely healed. Its gonna look even better when its completely healed. Im sold, i cant wait to get it done. I have a plan to, im gonna wear the AutoADS cranked tight while the surgery is being performed, so when the lig is cut, all the penis gets pulled forward. Dan said thats what he does on his patients so thats what im going to do, im glad he suggested it. I also plan to wear the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] after the surgery immidietly, but with minimal tension so i can prevent retraction as much as possible. Even so im not real worried about it, because once its healed and i stretch its all gonna come back along with some more anyway.
 
NewGuy311 said:
Thanks alot for the replies man, they are greatly appreciated dude. Wow, that is a hell of a difference dude, thats amazing. Your hung pretty well now, and thats with retraction and not being completely healed. Its gonna look even better when its completely healed. Im sold, i cant wait to get it done. I have a plan to, im gonna wear the AutoADS cranked tight while the surgery is being performed, so when the lig is cut, all the penis gets pulled forward. Dan said thats what he does on his patients so thats what im going to do, im glad he suggested it. I also plan to wear the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] after the surgery immidietly, but with minimal tension so i can prevent retraction as much as possible. Even so im not real worried about it, because once its healed and i stretch its all gonna come back along with some more anyway.



I wouldn't suggest wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] after surgery because it will tear the sutures.
 
Sparky 1 said:
I wouldn't suggest wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] after surgery because it will tear the sutures.



I dont plan on wearing it tight, i plan on wearing it with little tension, just to keep it slightly stretched. Im not gonna wear it tight enough that it will pull on the sutures, just gonna go for an extremely light stretch. We will see what happens. BTW looking awesome man.
 
NewGuy311 said:
I dont plan on wearing it tight, i plan on wearing it with little tension, just to keep it slightly stretched. Im not gonna wear it tight enough that it will pull on the sutures, just gonna go for an extremely light stretch. We will see what happens. BTW looking awesome man.


Hey thanks man! I'm telling you though, it is risky to pull on the penis at all the first couple of days. Even if you get a semi-erection, you can tear the sutures opening the door for an infection. I personally don't think it is going to do anything for you compared to the extreme risk, however, it is your johnson!
 
Sparky 1 said:
Hey thanks man! I'm telling you though, it is risky to pull on the penis at all the first couple of days. Even if you get a semi-erection, you can tear the sutures opening the door for an infection. I personally don't think it is going to do anything for you compared to the extreme risk, however, it is your johnson!


No problem man those results are amazing, and the best part is thats not it for you. Well on that note, fuck that. Looks like i will not be doing any of that.
 
Sparky 1 said:
I wouldn't suggest wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] after surgery because it will tear the sutures.

That brings up a good point. I know the post-op care for these procedures always involves an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], hanging, or some similar follow-up Penis Enlargement to get the results. When does this begin? As you mentioned, I don't think right out of surgery would be a good idea because you'd have to rip something up, I would think.
 
penguinsfan said:
That brings up a good point. I know the post-op care for these procedures always involves an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], hanging, or some similar follow-up Penis Enlargement to get the results. When does this begin? As you mentioned, I don't think right out of surgery would be a good idea because you'd have to rip something up, I would think.


It depends on how fast you heal, but generally about 4-6 weeks you can begin hanging and or light stretching.
 
^^That is correct. But it's a lot better than the liposuction option, or I should say it provides better results. I've got a nice muscular ass. I wouldn't want a strip taken out of it. But it's better than having a hard-on that feels like a cylindrical tit.
 
AlreadyPackin' said:
^^That is correct. But it's a lot better than the liposuction option, or I should say it provides better results. I've got a nice muscular ass. I wouldn't want a strip taken out of it. But it's better than having a hard-on that feels like a cylindrical tit.


I have a big - muscular butt as well. It is taken from the crease of your buttock and your back leg, so you cannot tell. It isn't actually taken from your buttocks, just below it.
 
Erect Measurements


Base Girth 7"


Mid Shaft Girth 6.2"

I didn't get a chance to measure the length because of how painful the erection was so it didn't last.
 
Ok Sparky 1, on a scale of 1 to 10 what is the level of pain that you experience when you get an erection with 1 being "meh, i can take it" and 10 being a car door pushing closed on your throbbing penis. I realize pain tolerance is a different for everyone, but still I am curious.
 
iwant8inches said:
Ok Sparky 1, on a scale of 1 to 10 what is the level of pain that you experience when you get an erection with 1 being "meh, i can take it" and 10 being a car door pushing closed on your throbbing penis. I realize pain tolerance is a different for everyone, but still I am curious.


Well i can speak more or less for the length procedure. They say for length, the pain is comparable to that of a hernia surgery, which i myself have gone through before and it isnt bad at all. Its very, very tolerable, for me anyway, dont know about you.
 
Blah this thread is semi depressing; just out of personal preference I would never get this done but it just put a damper on my expectations from Penis Enlargement ect. :(
 
i tried to msg you guys but couldn't send anything..but was wondering what your results were, or ANYONE's results from Penis Enlargement length surgery-- and how much your erect angle changed, if at all..

for some of us that don't have the time to Penis Enlargement, this is one of the last few options.. thanks in advance
 
"Dr. Rheinschild was AWESOME in his day, but now turned very greedy. His hands shake violently and his practice has taken a dive for the worse. There are so many lawsuits pending for him right now, and his days of a plastic surgeon are soon over. I personally know three people that have been severely botched by Rheinschild, some of which lost complete feeling in their penis. If you are a member of other discussion site Forums, read 8-Ball's surgery thread. He had the surgery done with Gary, and now is smaller than before."

Well, thanks. Now I'll have to do my research with your surgeon. I had no idea that Gary had turned into the surgical equivalent of Barney Fife. No thanks.


As far as your graft...is that more desirable than the Alloderm? I'm thinking of the Alloderm because it would seem like a skin graft could be lumpy whereas the Alloderm is smooth and every piece is identical in size & thickness.
 
Sparky 1 said:
I have a big - muscular butt as well. It is taken from the crease of your buttock and your back leg, so you cannot tell. It isn't actually taken from your buttocks, just below it.

Was/is that painful?
 
stillwant9 said:
"Dr. Rheinschild was AWESOME in his day, but now turned very greedy. His hands shake violently and his practice has taken a dive for the worse. There are so many lawsuits pending for him right now, and his days of a plastic surgeon are soon over. I personally know three people that have been severely botched by Rheinschild, some of which lost complete feeling in their penis. If you are a member of other discussion site Forums, read 8-Ball's surgery thread. He had the surgery done with Gary, and now is smaller than before."

Well, thanks. Now I'll have to do my research with your surgeon. I had no idea that Gary had turned into the surgical equivalent of Barney Fife. No thanks.


As far as your graft...is that more desirable than the Alloderm? I'm thinking of the Alloderm because it would seem like a skin graft could be lumpy whereas the Alloderm is smooth and every piece is identical in size & thickness.

Alloderm is made from cadavers (dead bodies) and the cost is prohibitive ie 6 grafts being £6,000 ...
 
@Sparky 1

What exactly was your LOT before the surgery?
Did your LOT changed after the surgery?

Why do you think you will make further ligs gains after your surgery? Did your doctor tell you this?
 
iwant8inches said:
Ok Sparky 1, on a scale of 1 to 10 what is the level of pain that you experience when you get an erection with 1 being "meh, i can take it" and 10 being a car door pushing closed on your throbbing penis. I realize pain tolerance is a different for everyone, but still I am curious.


Maybe a 3 up until three days post-op, then it went to a 4.5, then 6 days post op down to a 3, and now (7 days) it is very minimal. Honestly, It isn't bad at all.
 
Canuk said:
Blah this thread is semi depressing; just out of personal preference I would never get this done but it just put a damper on my expectations from Penis Enlargement ect. :(


Why is it depressing?
 
fremontmortgage said:
i tried to msg you guys but couldn't send anything..but was wondering what your results were, or ANYONE's results from Penis Enlargement length surgery-- and how much your erect angle changed, if at all..

for some of us that don't have the time to Penis Enlargement, this is one of the last few options.. thanks in advance



My angle has not changed ONE bit. And so far, my flaccid results (which will continue to gain) are 1.5 ".
 
Well, thanks. Now I'll have to do my research with your surgeon. I had no idea that Gary had turned into the surgical equivalent of Barney Fife. No thanks.


As far as your graft...is that more desirable than the Alloderm? I'm thinking of the Alloderm because it would seem like a skin graft could be lumpy whereas the Alloderm is smooth and every piece is identical in size & thickness.


I believe that your own skin is much better, and as far as the lumpiness, there is none, it is very smooth as the Dr. shaves it slightly to make it completely flat. Alloderm is more able to get infected, and costs much more. To me, I like the idea of my own tissue, but some prefer alloderm because there is no scar of the back or buttocks.
 
penguinsfan said:
Was/is that painful?



Moderate pain when sitting and or walking for long distances, but not that bad. Today is day 7, and I am almost back to normal walking and comfortablility when sitting.
 
dex said:
@Sparky 1

What exactly was your LOT before the surgery?
Did your LOT changed after the surgery?

Why do you think you will make further ligs gains after your surgery? Did your doctor tell you this?


My LOT was 6:00, and I havent had a chance to test it after the procdedure.


I will make further gains, not from the ligs because they are severed, but simply by pulling the penis outward. Yes, the Dr. told me this.
 
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