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Thanks to Eroset for this Oil.

Here's the story: I had a thrombosed vein, a very small one that started at the base on the left side. It had a good size clot at the head of it, a hard bulge about the size of grain of rice. I treated it with heat, massage, niacin flushing (for blood vessel dilation), 400mg of Ibuprofen twice a day, baby aspirin, tons of water, everything. 2 to 3 weeks and it didn't shrink or budge in the slightest, no improvement at all. During this time I did zero Penis Enlargement.

Finally a bit frustrated, I asked my wife to gather from her essential oil collection, every single oil that had vasodilator properties, regardless of whether or not they were harsh on the skin. My thought being, if I stimulate those veins to really dilate, I could get this clot moving. What I came up with worked in four days and had some other unintended benefits. Within four days of massaging this oil into the hard vein, the bulge disappeared and the whole vein started to soften.

After six days, I decided to see what effect it had on the rest of my unit, and began to use it all over, instead of just on the affected area. Within a few days, I noticed a visible difference in the vascular appearance of my shaft. The veins that were there appeared wider and fuller, and smaller ones that I never really noticed before became apparent. These changes were noticeable both erect and flaccid. I also experienced a noticeable change in my flaccid hang, it being heavier and fuller, especially if I had the oil still sitting on the skin. Keep in mind, I was seeing these changes without any Penis Enlargement for the prior 3 weeks or so.

Now that I'm done with my injury break, I decided to start using it as a jelq lube. I already knew it was okay for use on my entire unit because towards the end of my injury break I was using it for masturbation and edging. It's performing very well as a jelq lube with the only downside being that I seem now to get erect very easily with this lube, and it seems to make the erection much more difficult to subside back to my normal jelq-level. I believe I am seeing a difference in the bedroom as well, but too soon to speculate.
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Here it is: (as named by someone else, honest)
EVO - Eroset's Vein Oil

--1/3 to 1/2 cup of Extra Virgin Olive Oil as a base carrier for the essential oils. Sensitive skin users will want to go heavier on the carrier oil to dilute the essential oils. My best experience so far has been with a 1/3 cup base. Brave users may go even lower on the carrier oil, but I'd say do so slowly, and primarily for use as a concentrated spot treatment directly on the vein, not on the whole shaft.

--6 mL of Lavender Essential Oil (organic or 40/42 oil)

--2.5 mL of Rosemary Essential Oil (Sensitive skin users will want to go easy on this and may want to back it off some. If you experience unpleasant irritation, this is the one to look at first. It's the best vasodilator in the mix, and a great penetrator oil, but also the harshest on the skin.)

--2 mL of Clary Sage Essential Oil

--1.5-2 mL of Lemongrass Essential Oil
(Sensitive skin users will look to this as a possible irritant as well)

Pour the oils into a bottle or other container and shake to ensure the oils are mixed before every use. NOTE: If using for the first time, please test on something other than your penis first. I'm concerned someone may be allergic to one of the ingredients, and having a reaction somewhere other than your penis would be preferable. No?

For measuring the essential oils, I used a baby medicine syringe marked in mL.
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Here's what you're rubbing into your veins:

Lavender Essential Oil: (Lavandula officinalis, steam distilled flowering top) It is known to be analgesic, antidepressant, antirheumatic, antiseptic, antispasmodic, antiviral, bactericide, cicatrizant, decongestant, deodorant, diuretic, fungicide, sedative, vasodilator. Soothes the spirit, relieves anger, valuable in manic-depressive cases. Has a sedative action on the heart, assists in bringing down high blood pressure, relieves insomnia, relieves muscular spasms and rheumatic pains. The first essential oil one should reach for in the case of minor burns and sunburn. Promotes growth of new skin cells, great healing effect on burns and sunburn, acne, psoriasis, boils, fungal growths, and scarring. Lavender is one of the safest essential oils to use with children and the elderly. I personally use Lavender directly on the skin all the time, it is the only essential oil that you can safely use without a carrier oil. Burns, cuts, scrapes, whatever, I've seen pure lavender oil take a disgusting blistered burn on my thumb and heal the blister in two days with all signs of the burn gone in a week. This stuff is a gift from Big Momma Nature.

Rosemary Essential Oil: (Rosemarinus officinalis, steam distilled flowering top/leaf) It is analgesic, antidepressant, antirheumatic, antiseptic, antispasmodic, astringent, cicatrisant, digestive, diuretic, hypertensive, rubefacient, vasodilator. Not suitable for people with epilepsy or high blood pressure. Helps ease gout and tired, overworked muscles, tired or weak legs and circulatory problems of extremities, as well as cold feet. Since it stimulates blood circulation, it is a good remedy for low blood pressure. It's an excellent tonic for the liver and gall bladder. Helps lower high blood sugar. Used in shampoo and hair treatments, it helps stimulate blood circulation to the scalp, thus being beneficial for promoting hair growth. Be careful with playing with this one, direct skin contact without diluting will be painful. If you notice too much of a tingling sensation, or an extreme cooling sensation, you've used too much and should dilute the mixture with a bit more Olive Oil. It is a tremendous penetrating oil and powerful vasodilator.

Clary Sage Essential Oil: (Salvia sclarea, steam distilled flower/leaf) Is anticonvulsive, antidepressant, antiseptic, antispasmodic, aphrodisiac, astringent, emmenagogue, deodorant, nervine, sedative, tonic, vasodilator, a relaxing, warming oil which eases nervous tension. Its well known for its euphoric action and is an extremely valuable oil for treating nervousness, fear, paranoia and depression. Also encourages labor, enabling the expectant mother to relax and eases post-natal depression. Studies have found Clary Sage to be beneficial for its analgesic and relaxing effects and its ability to accelerate labor. It inhibits prolactin which is the hormone that floods our system after orgasm pushing us into the refractory period. Also soothes digestive problems. KEEP AWAY from your wife or girlfriend if pregnant! Use care not to get on your bed linens if you Penis Enlargement in bed, Clary Sage has been reported to cause vivid and sometimes weird dreams if placed on a pillowcase before bed.


Lemongrass Essential Oil: (Cymbopogon flexuosus, steam distilled leaf/herb) It is tonic, digestive and vasodilator with anti-inflammatory and sedative properties. Stimulates the mind, lifts the spirit, clears the head. Stimulates appetite, helpful with colic and indigestion. Prevents spread of contagious diseases. Great for aching muscles, relieves tired legs. Relieves fatigue, assists with jet lag. Aids in the flow of milk in nursing mothers. May be a dermal irritant.

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Where to get the stuff: Those of you in cool hippy-like places may be able to find these ingredients in Natural Health stores... Just make sure that you are buying Pure Essential Oils. NOT fragrance oils, not scented oils, you want the pure essential oil, organic and Ecocert if you can (but not necessary). Personally, I get all my oils from Camden-Grey, my wife has been doing business with them for 5 years I think, and we've always been happy with them and been treated well. If a bottle breaks or leaks in transport, they have always replaced it promptly free of charge.
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Recommended usage:

For treatment of a thrombosed vein, I recommend hitting it with 5 minutes of heat first, even longer if you like. Big believer in heat. Follow up with massaging EVO directly onto the affected area for 5-10 minutes, 2-3 times per day. Apply liberally, and when done, do not wipe off skin unless you experience skin irritation. Your skin will continue to absorb the oils after your massage if you leave it on. I usually just pull on a pair of loose shorts and go about my business.

For use as a jelq/edging lube, remember to test on a small area of skin first. Even if you've tested it somewhere other than your penis (which you should do), I would still recommend using it on a small area on your penis first, just to make sure it's okay on your unit before slathering it on for 20 minutes of stroking/jelqing. Again, I would always leave the lube on the skin when finished, or reapply before pulling on my shorts.

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Now the disclaimers:
I am not a doctor, I did not sleep in a Holiday Inn last night, I have no medical training whatsoever. This oil mixture has been used at this point, by just TWO people (the fine fellow that named this stuff EVO will hopefully chime in soon). If you're not the adventurous type, you might want to wait until other people (hopefully!) give this stuff a try and report their findings.

The FDA has not evaluated the information contained on this post.
These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any diseases or substitute for the advice provided by a medical professional. Please consult a qualified health care professional for any medical problems, diseases, illnesses or health conditions. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK and use common sense, if you notice a negative skin reaction, discontinue use or dilute with more carrier oil.

This is still a work in progress, and I am still researching some of the oils contained in this mixture. I reserve the right to change the secret formula for EVO at any time. I have absolutely no idea about the implications of long term use, but will certainly update this thread with any experience as I continue to use this.

Thoughts, feedback, questions? Would love to see other thrombosed vein sufferers try this out and let us know the progress. Also would like to hear feedback on folks looking for better vascular definition using it as a jelq lube.

Edit: forgot to mention, it smells like fecking hot-sweet death, these oils are not meant to be mixed for pleasing aromatic purposes.
 
I have some pictures I would like to post to see if someone can diagnose whether or not my dorsal vein is thrombosed or if it is normal. Just one of those things I would like to make sure on.

Only the last picture is manually clamped. The first two or just normal erections. Thanks for any help you or any one else can give?
 
lolmonster;330200 said:
I have some pictures I would like to post to see if someone can diagnose whether or not my dorsal vein is thrombosed or if it is normal. Just one of those things I would like to make sure on.

Only the last picture is manually clamped. The first two or just normal erections. Thanks for any help you or any one else can give?

It looks prominent but not thrombosed.
 
It would be good if people posted injurys here so others could tell when something is just swollen or serioualy in need of help.

I'm going to have to mix up that oil.
 
big bori333;330506 said:
Anyone use the oils for jelqing lube? I heard it increase flaccid hang...

It is a pretty big thread at T's place but I have not been able to read through it. It seems logical and harmless to try.
 
big bori333;330506 said:
Anyone use the oils for jelqing lube? I heard it increase flaccid hang...

I just got my shipment of oils and started this, so I don't know what the effect will be. The nice thing is that you don't need to use a lot and you don't need to re-apply. I haven't noticed any issues with skin sensitivity.

I did vary from the above recipe some. I already had a bottle of lavender infused massage oil, so I used that in place of olive oil. Shelf life of EVOO isn't great once opened, so unless you're using the remainder for cooking, you don't want to get a big bottle.

Also, since the massage oil already has a pretty decent amount of lavender in it, I don't seem to notice a problem with the mixture smelling bad.
 
TRRbogie;331488 said:
I just got my shipment of oils and started this, so I don't know what the effect will be. The nice thing is that you don't need to use a lot and you don't need to re-apply. I haven't noticed any issues with skin sensitivity.

I did vary from the above recipe some. I already had a bottle of lavender infused massage oil, so I used that in place of olive oil. Shelf life of EVOO isn't great once opened, so unless you're using the remainder for cooking, you don't want to get a big bottle.

Also, since the massage oil already has a pretty decent amount of lavender in it, I don't seem to notice a problem with the mixture smelling bad.

Awesome! Keep us up to date on the effects of this.
 
already had the essential oils in the house because I make my own soap. Made the mixture and used it for jelq lube. I have only used it once so I am looking forward to seeing what it will do in the long term. I did feel a difference after jelqing...cooling sensation on the skin. I did not have a reaction to any of the oils and I liked the fragrence...I think the aromatherapy made the session more enjoyable. I have arthritis in my hands and sometimes jelqing can be a bit painful but I think the oils actually helped a little in this area too.
 
photog200;368118 said:
already had the essential oils in the house because I make my own soap. Made the mixture and used it for jelq lube. I have only used it once so I am looking forward to seeing what it will do in the long term. I did feel a difference after jelqing...cooling sensation on the skin. I did not have a reaction to any of the oils and I liked the fragrence...I think the aromatherapy made the session more enjoyable. I have arthritis in my hands and sometimes jelqing can be a bit painful but I think the oils actually helped a little in this area too.

So you made this as a soap? Doesn't that dry out your skin?
 
No, I didn't make it as soap. I just had the essential oils in the house because I use them for making soap. I made the formula just as you had listed in the thread.
 
Hey! (Bumping!)

This is good stuff here. I substituted olive oil with joyoba. I also had some apricot kernel oil, but I opted for joyoba this time.
Somewhat more expensive than olive oil (well, depending on the brand I guess), but I think joyoba and apricot penetrate the skin better.

I made mine a lot more potent than advised in the guide. The guide line is good. The mix I made is a bit stingy, but no peeling or other problems have occurred.
Definately makes erections harder, I think with even the suggested amounts. (I did a mix like 20 ml of joyoba and the rest varied from 1 - 4 ml I think. Don't remember the exact numbers, but it's working!)
I've dabbled with essential oils before, so my skin is a bit more customed to them, but sure, beware of too hard mixes! I'll be honest, I felt a little "drunk" the first time I applied my mix and that was just to my arms.

If you like DYI-stuff, this is definately something good your penis! Leech oil too is nice, as Redzulu suggested. I have both now. This EVO can be little cheaper than leech oil and you don't have to be "cheap" about it, even though a small amount will do!
I now do leech oil morning and evening, before sleep. EVO after work out, which for now is [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].

Not the "easiest" way around, but interesting. And true, it's really potent in smell, but not too bad I think! I think you can affect the smell factor with different base oils. Olive oil to me doesn't smell very good, it's decent. Apricot kernel oil is a little nutty, doesn't smell too much. Joyoba is quite mild in my opinion as well.
So, if you have the time, try it!
 
I've only tried this a couple times, using arkailija's method of substituting apricot seed oil in place of EVOO. I used DLD's essential oil measurements, though.

I was initially interested in this because I do a lot of girth work- I'm already pretty "substantial" according to all of my previous partners, but I've got a thing for girth and head size, so I do a lot of exercises emphasizing those areas, and I've been looking into picking up a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and/or a head pump to concentrate a lot of my efforts there. Anyway, because I do a lot of girth exercises (squeezes in particular) I am susceptible to thrombosed veins. Between the vasodilating oils and a heroic amount of Ginkgo taken daily, I'm pretty sure I can effectively sidestep any hardened veins.

Now that extensive patch testing has shown I shouldn't have to worry about any kind of reactions to the oils, I plan on applying the mixture 2-3 times daily; in the morning post-shower, afternoon (typically post-work), and as a jelqing lube in the evening.

I've only been using it since yesterday, and I don't want to raise expectations, but I have been noticing a modest improvement in vascularity, the firmness of my erection, and the length of my flaccid hang. I can only expect that these effects will improve as I continue to use the concoction over a long period of time. I also find that the oils, contrary to previous testimony, actually produce a gentle and pleasurable warming sensation.

I've also used this as a jelq lubricant for my scrotum, and I've found the effects to be pretty pleasant. Just like with my penis, I've noticed my sac is looser, more relaxed, and the scrotum feels "puffier," more inflated, which is a nice effect. Overall, my balls feel heavier, like they have a little more swing to 'em. Has anyone else experimented with using this on their scrotum? I'll also be trying out shea butter.

Finally, has anyone looked into Catuaba? I've also heard good things about Lotus. I'm really interested in this essential oil thing, based on my current experience with them, so I'd like to experiment a little more. I think I'd like to up the strength on my oil and see how far I can go before I begin to experience any negative side effects.
 
I'm glad people are using this stuff. Especially I'm glad about SnowMutt using apricot seed oil. In my opinion it has less fragrance than olive oil, so the outcome (in terms of smell) should be a bit more pleasant. All these oils mixed with olive oil, I haven't tried. But I have a slight feeling the odor is completely different.

I use my EVO on a regular basis, not daily nowadays, even though it's most beneficial used daily.
Ezskanken, you should be able to find these oils in a natural health shop or similiar. I bought my oils from big chain store that has a section for essential oils etc. Lemongrass oil was the only one I had to go and buy from a different store, it's not so common I think. But all these oils should be relatively easy to acquire.
 
Apparently Bio-Oil has all the same ingredients as EVO and more.
You can buy it, saves the hassle of making it yourself.

Less potent smell, I am using both at the moment.
 
I have Bio Oil as well, decent stuff. But it's more for stretch marks, discoloration etc.. For bigger veins and Penis Enlargement, go for EVO.
 
arkailija;547201 said:
Ezskanken, you should be able to find these oils in a natural health shop or similiar. I bought my oils from big chain store that has a section for essential oils etc. Lemongrass oil was the only one I had to go and buy from a different store, it's not so common I think. But all these oils should be relatively easy to acquire.

Thank you!
 
I want to report using Eroset's vein oil to great success! When starting PE in July of 2014 I noticed that one of my veins had a bit of a bulge just past my pubic bone as it entered the shaft of my penis. I could feel it was a little sensitive but PE didn't seem to make it any worse. That is until one day I was doing some pretty intense manual stretching. I felt a big POP! and I thought it must be a ligament pop. But then that bulging part of vein started to hurt. Bad hurt. Not good hurt. And the bulge was bigger. I had my first (and hopefully last) PE injury! I stopped stretching and rested for a couple days.
I tried some basic jelqing and it was slightly painful. I tried one slow-squash-jelq and it was extremely painful. This was really disheartening because I was just starting to notice some girth gains after a few weeks of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s. After doing some research it seemed I had exacerbated an existing thrombosis.
I knew I needed to rest. But I was very worried after because after two weeks even getting an erection was still slightly painful. Any stretching was painful. I thought my PE days might be over.
However, Being the woo-woo hippy acupuncturist that I am, I did a google search on essential oils and penis injury. I found the threads on Eroset's Vein Oil and picked upped the ingredients at the local health food store.
I noticed drastic improvement after a week of use. After 3 weeks of using it (not even everyday like I was supposed to) I did some conservative PE again, starting with light stretches. After a few days I started with girth work again. Everything is working great! It's been about 7 weeks since the injury and I think the bulge/thrombosis is now smaller than before the injury! When I first started back up with girth work there were some weird sensations in the vein and my testicles. But it wasn't a bad pain, more like the pain from a massage as tissues release and find a new structure. I'm fully back in the PE game- Stretches, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s- it all feels fine. I really feel the EVO sped up and enhanced the healing process exponentially.
Also when I use the oil I have crazy morning wood and tend to have intense sex dreams, as in while I'm dreaming- I see a girl and just go up and have my way with her. Good stuff, lol.
Highly recommend EVO for thrombosis and it seems to increase blood flow and vascularity as well. Could be a tool for general PE as well as for injury recovery.
 
Excellent post FireDragonLeo!

Really great to hear how the EV oil has helped you. I'm also a big fan of the stuff, although I need to buy a new supply of the necessities for the making.

Overall, a good story and a good bump for one of the good healing tools in PE. In my opinion making stuff like this gets you more committed to your PE program.
All the best to you, liked and thanked!
 
ya well i have a lump right behind my glans and it kept reappearing when i did PE....but someone adviced hirudoid cream and it did wonders for me too
 
Yes, Hirudoid [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words] is also great stuff, I like the cream based more than the gel. Gel does absorb faster though, so if one is looking for quick recovery, he could use the gel in the morning or when going out somewhere. Then again for time at home, the cream might be more suitable, as you can spend more time.
 
Hmmm... The Hirudoid is heparin based product. It's a blood thinner that dissolves clots. I wonder if you could use a combo of EVO and Hirudoid. Make the clot smaller with the Hirudoid and "flush it out" with the EVO. I'll try to figure out if they might be compatible, or just use them at different times.
 
FireDragonLeo;631699 said:
Hmmm... The Hirudoid is heparin based product. It's a blood thinner that dissolves clots. I wonder if you could use a combo of EVO and Hirudoid. Make the clot smaller with the Hirudoid and "flush it out" with the EVO. I'll try to figure out if they might be compatible, or just use them at different times.

Firedragonleo, did this ever work for you?
 
I am going to be testing these on my eyes. I have the typical Italian eyes with dark circles and I really do not like it. Some of these methods may greatly help since the skin on the penis is very similar to the skin on the eyes. If this does not work it will be surgery time. I hope I can accomplish this without surgery.
 
doublelongdaddy;679827 said:
I am going to be testing these on my eyes. I have the typical Italian eyes with dark circles and I really do not like it. Some of these methods may greatly help since the skin on the penis is very similar to the skin on the eyes. If this does not work it will be surgery time. I hope I can accomplish this without surgery.

Where can I get the ingrediants to make this oil DLD?
 
You can buy the oils online at wherever they have good reviews I guess. Make sure they are the pure kind of essential oil, and no fugazi watered down shit. You know what to look for? I think the good ones are Clary [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sage[/words], rosemary, lavender,
 
templnite;679926 said:
You can buy the oils online at wherever they have good reviews I guess. Make sure they are the pure kind of essential oil, and no fugazi watered down shit. You know what to look for? I think the good ones are Clary [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sage[/words], rosemary, lavender,

I was looking where to find them online and i saw that they sell most if not all of the oils that you need to make EVO at GNC. I have a GNC in the mall of the city that i live in, don you think that their essential oils are good there? The brand name is called "now essential oils".
 
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I've seen them there too, but id need to check reviews to be more confident in buying
 
The prices are pretty wack bra I would go find another reputable dealer
 
eugine8plz;679841 said:
Where can I get the ingrediants to make this oil DLD?

Most can be found online but I will also have LIGHTNING chime in as he is working with all these ingredients right now for various projects.
 
templnite;679939 said:
The prices are pretty wack bra I would go find another reputable dealer

I found some 100% pure 10ml bottles of all of the essential oils needed to make EVO oil on Amazon. I think I am going to order them within the next few days and I'm going to go to my local grocery store and buy the extra virgin olive oil and make this shit! Can't wait to try it out!! What kind of results did you get from it??
 
I noticed immediately the veins opened, and swelled up crazy. I also used it during girth work, and the first few times I came early because it gives very strong sensations. Make sure to mix it correctly so it isn't too strong that it burns a little.
 
templnite;679970 said:
I noticed immediately the veins opened, and swelled up crazy. I also used it during girth work, and the first few times I came early because it gives very strong sensations. Make sure to mix it correctly so it isn't too strong that it burns a little.

Sounds like some great results! Should I mix it the exact same way that DLD posted with the exact same measurements?!
 
eugine8plz
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Hmmm... The Hirudoid is heparin based product. It's a blood thinner that dissolves clots. I wonder if you could use a combo of EVO and Hirudoid. Make the clot smaller with the Hirudoid and "flush it out" with the EVO. I'll try to figure out if they might be compatible, or just use them at different times.
Firedragonleo, did this ever work for you?
I never did get any hiridoid. However I did find a product that worked great and got rid of the nagging pain from the thrombosis. It's Natto-K and SerraGold by The Enzymedica Company, they are enzymes that dissolve the clot from the at a molecular level. Pretty cool stuff. I went from feeling pain hanging 7.5 pounds to being able to hang 20 pounds with no pain. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/boo-boo-s-and-band-aids-safety-in-penis-enlargement/87211-wow-natural-option-for-thrombosed-vein.html
I'd love for other people to try this to hear the results. Many health-food stores stock these products, it cost me about 60 dollars for a big bottle of each.
 
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FireDragonLeo;679988 said:
eugine8plz
I never did get any hiridoid. However I did find a product that worked great and got rid of the nagging pain from the thrombosis. It's Natto-K and SerraGold by The Enzymedica Company, they are enzymes that dissolve the clot from the at a molecular level. Pretty cool stuff. I went from feeling pain hanging 7.5 pounds to being able to hang 20 pounds with no pain. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/boo-boo-s-and-band-aids-safety-in-penis-enlargement/87211-wow-natural-option-for-thrombosed-vein.html
I'd love for other people to try this to hear the results. Many health-food stores stock these products, it cost me about 60 dollars for a big bottle of each.

Sounds intriguing!! How many times should I take it a day and at what times should I take it? Also should I try pairing this with the EVO oil that I'm going to be making soon?? I found a bottle on Amazon that goes by the name/title of: "Enzymedica- Natto-K, supports cardiovascular health". I am guessing it is it am i right??
 
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eugine8plz
Sounds intriguing!! How many times should I take it a day and at what times should I take it? Also should I try pairing this with the EVO oil that I'm going to be making soon?? I found a bottle on Amazon that goes by the name/title of: "Enzymedica- Natto-K, supports cardiovascular health". I am guessing it is it am i right??
The important thing with enzymes is to take them on an empty stomach! Otherwise they digest the food. I took 2 capsules right after waking up, and 2 capsules just before bedtime. If I woke up in the middle of the night I would take an extra dose. Whenever you have an empty stomach works. Approximately 2 hours after a meal. You can't really overdose so you can use more. I also used the Enzymedica SerraGold, because it also helps dissolve blood clots. The Natto-K probably will work by itself. They had both at the local health-food store, so I just used them both at the same time.
The enzymes can certainly be used with the EVO, it might even be a synergistic pairing. I suspect that in fact if you get the enzymes in your bloodstream then increase local blood flow with the EVO that will be a great combo.
The product you found on amazon is the right one. I worked at a health food store several years ago, and it hit me one day that people used this product to dissolve blood clots for cardiovascular health. Why not use it for a thrombosis in my penis? Duh. It worked great for me. I wish it hadn't taken me so long to think of that. I'm sure that the pain was holding back my gains.
I didn't use EVO and the Natto-K simultaneously. I used the EVO soon after the thrombosis and found it helpful. I used the Natto-K months later because there was some residual pain.
I think the enzymes could be one of the best therapies yet for thrombosis.
Let us know how it goes!
 
FireDragonLeo;679998 said:
eugine8plz
The important thing with enzymes is to take them on an empty stomach! Otherwise they digest the food. I took 2 capsules right after waking up, and 2 capsules just before bedtime. If I woke up in the middle of the night I would take an extra dose. Whenever you have an empty stomach works. Approximately 2 hours after a meal. You can't really overdose so you can use more. I also used the Enzymedica SerraGold, because it also helps dissolve blood clots. The Natto-K probably will work by itself. They had both at the local health-food store, so I just used them both at the same time.
The enzymes can certainly be used with the EVO, it might even be a synergistic pairing. I suspect that in fact if you get the enzymes in your bloodstream then increase local blood flow with the EVO that will be a great combo.
The product you found on amazon is the right one. I worked at a health food store several years ago, and it hit me one day that people used this product to dissolve blood clots for cardiovascular health. Why not use it for a thrombosis in my penis? Duh. It worked great for me. I wish it hadn't taken me so long to think of that. I'm sure that the pain was holding back my gains.
I didn't use EVO and the Natto-K simultaneously. I used the EVO soon after the thrombosis and found it helpful. I used the Natto-K months later because there was some residual pain.
I think the enzymes could be one of the best therapies yet for thrombosis.
Let us know how it goes!

For some reason the pain was very bad today. I didn't stretch for 2 days and I was alright but then I did a short 5 minute manual stretching session today and the pain is terrible and it constantly hurts. I don't even know if it is thrombosis anymore! I am going to order a bottle of Natto-k and maybe even SerraGold today and try it out and hopefully it works. If not I might go and see a specialist about it. I'm also going to stop PE for about 2 weeks to a month and hopefully when I come back I'll be better!! my goals for 2016 are 1" in length and .5" on forth and I don't want to let myself down on the goal!! I'll still be checking in on the brotherhood every day as well.
 
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For some reason the pain was very bad today. I didn't stretch for 2 days and I was alright but then I did a short 5 minute manual stretching session today and the pain is terrible and it constantly hurts. I don't even know if it is thrombosis anymore! I am going to order a bottle of Natto-k and maybe even SerraGold today and try it out and hopefully it works. If not I might go and see a specialist about it. I'm also going to stop PE for about 2 weeks to a month and hopefully when I come back I'll be better!! my goals for 2016 are 1" in length and .5" on forth and I don't want to let myself down on the goal!! I'll still be checking in on the brotherhood every day as well.
That sounds similar to my experience. I was doing a really intense stretch to the side, then a big pop, then bad pain. It was very painful and tender for two weeks, until I started using the EVO. I used the EVO for about 3 weeks and I could do PE again. But some lingering pain was still there for months until I used the enzymes (Natto-K, SerraGold). I wish I had thought of the enzymes back when it happened, because I'm sure I would not have had the lingering injury which slowed my progress. (I detail my experience earlier in this thread.)
If you post a picture the brothers can take a look and give our opinions. Pain is "normal" in the sense that the area is inflamed, which is good in the long run because that's the body's healing response to injury. Pain is the body's signal to take it easy and let the area heal. But you can speed up the healing process with the EVO and enzymes. Speedy Recovery and keep us posted, I'm very curious how other will respond to the enzyme treatment protocol.
 
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That sounds similar to my experience. I was doing a really intense stretch to the side, then a big pop, then bad pain. It was very painful and tender for two weeks, until I started using the EVO. I used the EVO for about 3 weeks and I could do PE again. But some lingering pain was still there for months until I used the enzymes (Natto-K, SerraGold). I wish I had thought of the enzymes back when it happened, because I'm sure I would not have had the lingering injury which slowed my progress. (I detail my experience earlier in this thread.)
If you post a picture the brothers can take a look and give our opinions. Pain is "normal" in the sense that the area is inflamed, which is good in the long run because that's the body's healing response to injury. Pain is the body's signal to take it easy and let the area heal. But you can speed up the healing process with the EVO and enzymes. Speedy Recovery and keep us posted, I'm very curious how other will respond to the enzyme treatment protocol.

Ya I'm going to try one of the 2 remedies first, which one? i have no clue yet but hopefully i will know by tomorrow so that i can order it! It may not even be thrombosis though so i am going to do as DLD said and massage it and keep it heated and i will take a week or 2 off. Its better to be safe then sorry! Even if it isn't thrombosis, i have another thombosis mid right shaft that i would like to get rid of too lol. It doesnt hurt at all, i just think that it looks ugly aha. i hope to be back to PEing within a couple weeks MAX.
 
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