Hey guys. I just wanted to drop a little bit of what I have been studying that helped me develop my current routine. In my opinion, what causes your dick to increase in size through Penis Enlargement is through plastic flow or deformation of the tunica. You see the spongy tissue inside the penis has the capacity to hold a lot of blood like a real sponge holding liquid. What sets the limit and puts a screeching halt to a man's penis size is the tunica that surrounds the spongy tissue. If a man’s tunica has a large amount of sheer tissue mass and elasticity inside of his flaccid penis, this will result in a huge erection.

Before human tissue reaches plastic deformation, its elastic limit must be breeched and enter a zone called CREEP. Creep is completely time and load dependent and is a phase where the stretched tissue is completely relaxed and slowly creeps away from its elastic limit if the stress remains constant with heat. Once sufficient amounts of creep has been done to the tissue through continuous amounts of time under tension then the tissue enters the plastic deforming zone. Now keep this in mind. All of this is happening at a microscopic level. When the tissue deforms it then begins remodeling at a microscopic level to adapt and set its self to a new elastic limit..
Here is an example with someone who’s a clamper. Say you started out with a maximum clamped penis girth of 5 inches in circumference. That means with a clamp, 5 inches in circumference is your penis’s maximum elastic threshold girth wise. Now for your penis to increase beyond this point it most go through the process I was talking about earlier known as CREEP. Now lets say through creep your clamped penis after 4 fifteen minute sets swells to 5.5 inches without any fluid build up. This extra expansion was cause by CREEP witch caused the penis to slowly creep in expansion beyond its elastic limit of 5 inches in girth. Now after so many hours, days, and months of expansion beyond the penis’s elastic limit from the CREEP phase, this will result in permanent deformation of the tissue. Now your clamped penis no longer needs four 15 minutes sets to swell to 5.5 inches in girth. Instead your clamped penis swells to 5.5 inches as soon as you put the clamp on for your first set. This is because your clamped penis girth was plastically deformed past its old elastic limit of 5 inches in girth to its new elastic limit which is now 5.5 inches in girth. So the idea is to repeat this cycle over and over for gains to accumulate. You keep slowly pushing beyond your elastic limit to the creep and plastic zone. Once your dick has plastically deformed to a new size then that new size becomes your dick’s new set elastic limit and you push beyond this again and again.

Studies have shown that to achieave plastic deformation with the least amount of structural damage to the tissue, less intensity long duration loads are needed under constant heat to effectively and permenentley deform tissue. High intensity or high loads applied to quickly to soft tissue will result in more structural damage and when the load is removed the tissue returns back to its orginal size. This is why I think it is better for guys that hang to not use there maximum weight on the first couple of sets. I know most people say to go to max weight then drop the weight an ride the fatigue like a reverse pyramid but I think its better to do a whole pyramid while hanging then ride the fatigue with less weight. What I mean by this is do warm up sets under heat so the tissue of the tuncia and ligs can adapt and relax to go through the CREEP phase. Then wants the warm up sets are down, then commence to you max weight.

Here is an example:

Let say your hanging workout is 10 sets of 20 mins hanging with the max weight being at 20lbs

You workout should go like this:

Warm up set 1: 5 pounds for 10 minutes
Warm up set 2: 12 pounds for 10 minutes

After these warm up sets are done to let the tissues relax and go into CREEP then do the real hanging sets, starting with your max weight of 20 lbs for ten 20 minutes sets and reduce the weight when necessary riding the fatigue as the 10 sets are done.

First 5 sets: 20lbs for 20 mins
Next 3 sets: 17lbs for 20 mins ( reduce weight riding fatigue)
Last 2 sets: 14lbs for 20 mins ( more fatigue. Had to drop weight further)

Now if you are one of these guys that hang throughout the day then at least do one warm up set using half of the weight that you normally hang with.

I HAVE STUDIED A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE NATURE BEHIND STRETCHING HUMAN TISSUE BUT I THINK THIS WEBSITE IS A GOOD REFERENCE ON THE MATTER. HERE IS THE LINK TO IT BELOW.

http://books.google.com/books?id=sn...esult&ct=result&resnum=7#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Another good website is this one.
http://books.google.com/books?id=3p...c%20deformation stretching tissue&f=false

They explain in great detail about elasticity of human tissue, creep and plastic deformation.
 
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What I've noticed on this forum is no one really knows how P.e. works. People like you say its the tunica, but I've heard other people its becaues your gradually stretching the suspensory ligaments so the penis hangs lower.
 
Yeah that can happen from specializing in ligament work but what about the length and girth of the actual ogran its self. Not the ligaments. The tunica's mass and elasticity is what regulates the spongy tissue's blood holding capacity inside of your penis. Once your tunica reaches its elastic stretched limit when an erection is achieved then that's it my friend. That is limit of your penis in volume and girth until further plastic deformation of the tunica is reached through Penis Enlargement.
 
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King, I used this post in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Blog. Good work!
 
Thanks guys and especially you DLD. You are the man dude. Maybe one day I will be at your size but I have a long way to go.

Hey Thr???-X, To keep a constant heat source first I warm up my dick with a glass of warm to hot water for 5 minutes then where a hot rice sock for 10 minutes before I start my morning, lunchtime, and evening Penis Enlargement workouts. During my manual stretching and jelqing workouts I am sitting down on my bed and I have my portable heater next to my dick the whole time to keep the tunica tissue nice and warm for greater deformation will less structural damage. When I do my hanging workout my heater is positioned right next to my dick and pubic area the whole time with my balls out of the way so my sperm doesn't get fried.

Hey plokter, As far as applying this to a penis stretcher I think the stretcher should be set at a set level of resistance the whole time. In my opinion the strecher is used to keep the penis elongated so the cells in the tunica remodel to adapt to the stress from the the main Penis Enlargement workout. If using the stretcher is the only form of Penis Enlargement that you do then I think you should heat your dick up with a rice sock for 5 minutes, do 5 minutes of manual stretches followed by 5 more minutes of using a rice sock then put the stretcher on. As the tissue cools in an extended state, the cell structure will remodel to its new set length at a microscopic level at more likely stay that way.
 
Ah ok. Thanks Red. I appreciate it. You, Dld and Fedora are my main inspirations on this forum. Thanks for all of your knowledge. What are your current stats right now RED? Have you made anymore gains yet?
 
GREAT THREAD

I will base my new Penis Enlargement routine on this science.

One thing I want to be explain more is does this work better with more lighter session through the day?

Even if I dont do session through out the day but have time to fit in hot wraps in a few times. Will this help with the CREEP in my night session?
 
Also I work out with DC training. The mindset is the only infinite thing when it comes to lifting in pounds. You can superset,giant set,etc. but if you dont lift more over time gains will stop. So I will take a set to complete fail then Im done cause I cant increase the weight so anything past that is pointless. I

I was wondering with CREEP and Penis Enlargement, The only thing that infinite is TUT. I can do plenty sets of 1 min of Horse 440 but nothing is becoming more intense. But what If I do a max hold then Im done cause I cant put anymore TUT on the penis so I would be wasting my time.

Example: I will start with a few 30-60 sec. warm-up sets. The I will hold 1 set to complete fail after 3-4 min. then Im done cause I cant hold it longer then I did in that set so nothing more will come from more sets of the some time or less. Is Penis Enlargement a whole different ball game or am I on to something?
 
Hey girthhammer. What is important is the total time under tension. So if you are doing 20 sets of 1 minute horse440s with 30 seconds of rest in between each set then the total time under tension was 20 minutes not counting the rest time. After so much time under tension the tissue will enter the CREEP relaxation phase. Once the time under tension has exceed the tissue's capacity to handle the internal pressure that the horse440s are inducing then some of the molecular bonds in the tissue will no longer be able to stay in the CREEP phase and break causing plastic deformation. The cells and structure of the tissue then rearrange to perment stretched size in the direction that the stress was being placed on. Now what we are looking for is controlled and safe defomation of the tunica. So don't sqeeze the living day lights out of your tunica when you are doing horse440s because beyond the plastic deforming zone is the tissue rupture zone. Trust me, You don't want to rupture the tissues of the tunica. If this happens then when the tunca heals scar tissue will form and cause a bend in your dick and shortening. Use less to moderate intensity but long time under tension with constant heat to soften the tissues and allow them to hit CREEP easier with less celluar damage.

In my opinion you shouldn't treat your dick like a bodybuilding workout because it is not a muscle. Your dick is an organ. The dick does have smooth muscle in it but not the kind of muscle that will increase in size because of a workout to stimulate it to grow. Your dick increases in size because of plastic deformation of the ligs and tunica. In my opinion taking rest days should only be done for heathy erection quality and avoiding to much accumilated damage to the penis. Rest days do not make your dick magically grow back bigger and stronger then before like working your pecs. The dick is made of spongy tissue, veins, artieries, and fibrous tissue. Those african tribes you see with there lips and ears all stretched out 10 times beyond its orginal size is because of PLASTIC DEFORMATION OF THE TISSUE from years of low level stretch forces.
 
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So you believe that the tunica doesn't need a rest day? I think I remember reading red posting on the tunica and that it needed 48 hours of rest. Did your research tell you something else?

Also do you think CREEP could enter if applying heating cream for stiff joints and muscles on the penis?
 
Hey ronron234, what I'm saying is the tunica only needs rest if too much accumilated stress is being placed on the penis. You will know if too much accumilated celluar damage is being done based on your erection quality. If you have been doing Penis Enlargement for 5 days straight and on the 6th day your erections are shitty then its time for you to take a day or two off. If you are able to do Penis Enlargement every day without any drop in erection quality then I think you should Penis Enlargement everyday which in my opinion will result in the fastest gains in the quickest amount of time. Look at DLD. He didn't believe in taking rest days and look at his dick. DLD trained his dick and induced plastic deformation through out the day 7 days a week which resulted in his rapid gains in my opinion. Now keep in mind guys I am not trying to say that my method is gospel. This information is my opinion based on my research of stretching human tissue. Obviusly guys like Redzulu2003 have gained tremendously with rest days. Hell I take rest days too but only because after 5 days of straight Penis Enlargement my erection quality will start to decline. After a day of rest my erection quality is 100% again and ready for more plastic deforming sessions of Penis Enlargement. Even on my rest days which is Saturday and Sunday I still do light doses of manual stretching when ever I feel the urge too.

As far as the heat creams go, I'm not sure if that stuff realy sinks in deep into the tissues like a rice sock or warm to hot water does. I am going to do some research on these heat induced creams like bengay to see what they are all about.
 
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Hey ronron234 and kingsnake, I know the penis is not a muscle but tissue in the human body have a almost identical healing process. I know it is not a muscle but a article I looked explains why more often training of the tissues will father gains. Take a look.

Acute vs. Chronic Stimuli

In order for the loading to result in significant hypertrophy, the stimulus must be applied with sufficient frequency to create a new "environment", as opposed to seemingly random and acute assaults on the mechanical integrity of the tissue. The downside of taking a week of rest every time you load a muscle is that many of the acute responses to training like increased protein synthesis, prostaglandins, IGF-1 levels, and mRNA levels all return to normal in about 36 hours. So, you spend 2 days growing and half a week in a semi-anticatabolic state returning to normal (some people call this recovery), when research shows us that recovery can take place unabated even if a the muscle is loaded again in 48 hours. So true anabolism from loading only lasts 2 days at best once the load is removed. The rest of the time you are simply balancing nitrogen retention without adding to it.

Now I know you cant completely compare penis tissue to muscle tissue but you can compare the healing of the both. The parts I Bolded are the points in the paragraph that I want you to focus on. If the stress is not applied enough your slowly returning to normal.
 
Good info Girthhammer but also keep in mind that when you do Penis Enlargement you are not providing a stimulus to the penis. You are applying internal streching forces to the penis to force it to deform in the direction that the force is being applyied too. When you are working out at the gym you are not plastically deforming your muscles to grow. You are tearing them down and applying a stimulus for the muscles to grow back bigger and stronger then before if the nutrition is there. When doing Penis Enlargement rest days are for the tissues in your penis to heal any over accumulated cellular damage that would result in loss of erection quality. When you do a Penis Enlargement season the plastic deformation is being done during the session. When the session is done the tissue rearranges at a molecular level to its new set stetched length. The rearrangement of the cells in the tissue will arrange in a manner to cope with any further stress that future Penis Enlargement workouts will induce.
 
About the heating cream - I've used this in football and this definitely goes all the way through the skin. I have no doubt in its abilities I'm more worried however if it delivers too much pain. The best advice I can give is don't EVER let it touch your testicle skin as this does NOT feel good - Personal experience from a stupid bet! :) The shaft itself should be durable however. I hope to do some experimenting here myself.

Now your principle about hanging with less intensity and long duration - Isn't that what [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] devices are doing?
 
Yes Ad devices are providing less intensity long duration stretch forces. When I said hanging with less intensity and long duration I was mainly saying that your intensity should be light for the fist couple of sets to allow the tissues to relax and go into the CREEP phase before the heavy weights are implimented. If you apply to much stress right in the begining of a sesson then a lot more unneccessary structural damage will be done to the tissue and when the load is removed the tissue will more likely revert back to its orginal size which isn't what we are looking for.

During my evening 1 hour jelq and sqeeze variation sesson, I jelq with light intensity for the first 5-10 mins to allow the tunica time to relax and hit the creep phase, then increase the pressure through out the remander of the sesson.
 
Hi King..., I have been working on this theory and read with interest your posts. I have a couple of comments and a question. First the comments. I have been working with a speicialist in the area of Peyronies trying to help men who have this problem. One of the theories that he has come up with and I did post it on here some time ago, is that the penis will stretch if you "sneak up" on it. THIS is similiar to your concept of "creep." You can get it to go past the stage of where it is normally if you do it gently. When you start to pull your penis and it tugs back it is a reflex to protect itself. THAT tugging back or pulling back is automatic. However, if you, fully relaxed and warm, as you said, will slowly and very carefully begin to pull and can get by the "automatic pull back" then you can get some stretch you have never seen before. In order to do this you have to be fully relaxed and I know it sounds funny, but "sneak up" on it so it is taken by surprise and lets you stretch beyond its normal value.

I can't always do it, and when I do get it done, it surprises me how far I can go...you just keep slowly pulling.

Now, having said that, I have been expermenting with low weight and think it is also a key, I will try the low and then the heavier.

Now the question: What about his septum in the center of your penis. THAT is that "wire" type thing that just won't let you get it beyond what it is for Normal. If we could get some way to stretch that then we could conqueror the length issue. I know the tunica is set and can be deformed as you call it, but that septum in the center...feels like a taunt wire to me!, is one of the big issues.

I know you are on the right track on this and I appreciate your sharing it with us. GS
 
Hey German Stallion, As far as the septum goes. It can stretch as well but not as fast as the rest of the penile tissue. This is why I think manual stretches should be held for 3 minutes instead of the normal 45 seconds to 1 minute. With each manual stretch being held this long, it gives all the tissue's in the penis time to relax and adapt to the stretch force being applied. Hanging will definently handle the time it takes the tissues to relax and deform since with hanging sets are normally 15-20 minutes.
 
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kingsnake;355768 said:
Hey German Stallion, As far as the septum goes. It can stretch as well but not as fast as the rest of the penile tissue. This is why I think manual stretches should be held for 3 minutes instead of the normal 45 seconds to 1 minute. With each manual stretch being held this long, it gives all the tissue's in the penis time to relax and adapt to the stretch force being applied. Hanging will definently handle the time it takes the tissues to relax and deform since with hanging sets are normally 15-20 minutes.

I understand and agree. That is why a device such as a pipe or anthing that gives you a fulcrum when doing manual stretching is important. You can't hold long enough with just your hand. I have not started hanging again yet, but when I do I will go back to the lesser weight and then then give the muscle a chance to relax. When you put too much pressure or too much weight, I think..my opinion, you cause your natural 'protection mechanism" to kick in and not let it stretch.

GS
 
I agree German Stallion. Less weight in the beginning to relax the tissue under constant heat so the tissues protection mechanism doesn't activate and CREEP can set in.

Hey bossaline, To reach CREEP hanging is not needed. CREEP will set in as the tissue's in your penis become more relaxed with your manual stretching. Say you do 45 minutes of manual stretching holding each stretch for 45 seconds. For the first 5-10 minutes your dick will not stretch as far as it can and will try to retract. This is because the tissues are not yet relaxed to the stretch forces being applied. After 5-10 minutes your dick stretches further then it did in the begining of the session because after so much time under tension the tissues have relaxed and as more controlled tension is place on the tissues they will go into the CREEP phase and then the plastic phase. Keep in mind that with constant heat being applied, the tissue's of the tunica will relax quicker and deform more effectively with less strucural damage to the tunica.
 
yup just finished reading the 2nd page

you goota reach the eleasticity phase to fully understand what king snakes takn about
bout my routines is sumthin along the line of his.

but with Prussure not weights

p
 
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I agree German Stallion. Less weight in the beginning to relax the tissue under constant heat so the tissues protection mechanism doesn't activate and CREEP can set in.

Hey bossaline, To reach CREEP hanging is not needed. CREEP will set in as the tissue's in your penis become more relaxed with your manual stretching. Say you do 45 minutes of manual stretching holding each stretch for 45 seconds. For the first 5-10 minutes your dick will not stretch as far as it can and will try to retract. This is because the tissues are not yet relaxed to the stretch forces being applied. After 5-10 minutes your dick stretches further then it did in the begining of the session because after so much time under tension the tissues have relaxed and as more controlled tension is place on the tissues they will go into the CREEP phase and then the plastic phase. Keep in mind that with constant heat being applied, the tissue's of the tunica will relax quicker and deform more effectively with less strucural damage to the tunica.
so lemme ask u this. after stretching my dick for 10 mins at 45 secs a pop, my hands are pretty worn out. can i take breaks in between stretches while i still have heat hitting my ligs?
 
If your hands are getting worn out after 10 mins of stretches then taking breaks in your session is fine. Remember it's the total time under tension that's important during the session. If your hands get tired after 10 minutes, take about 3-5 minutes of rest for you hands but keep the heat on your dick so the tissue's stay relaxed and pliable. One good benifit of your hands getting tired is if you keep it up you will have some strong ass hands and forearms. LOL.
 
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If your hands are getting worn out after 10 mins of stretches then taking breaks in your session is fine. Remember it's the total time under tension that's important during the session. If your hands get tired after 10 minutes, take about 3-5 minutes of rest for you hands but keep the heat on your dick so the tissue's stay relaxed and pliable. One good benifit of your hands getting tired is if you keep it up you will have some strong ass hands and forearms. LOL.
ok so do u have a pretty good idea as to how long it would take to reach creep if u increase your stretch intensity slowly? for instance i usually stretch in every direction at about 50 % intensity, then i go to 60% and so on until i stretch at full intensity.
 
kingsnake;356015 said:
I agree German Stallion. Less weight in the beginning to relax the tissue under constant heat so the tissues protection mechanism doesn't activate and CREEP can set in.

Hey bossaline, To reach CREEP hanging is not needed. CREEP will set in as the tissue's in your penis become more relaxed with your manual stretching. Say you do 45 minutes of manual stretching holding each stretch for 45 seconds. For the first 5-10 minutes your dick will not stretch as far as it can and will try to retract. This is because the tissues are not yet relaxed to the stretch forces being applied. After 5-10 minutes your dick stretches further then it did in the begining of the session because after so much time under tension the tissues have relaxed and as more controlled tension is place on the tissues they will go into the CREEP phase and then the plastic phase. Keep in mind that with constant heat being applied, the tissue's of the tunica will relax quicker and deform more effectively with less strucural damage to the tunica.
after going to those 2 links u suggested that we read, i dont think i'm going to be stretching at full intensity. it seems like its been proven that by stretching at low and medium intensity for longer periods of time with heat being applied is very effective at vs stretching at full intensity for short period of time.
 
I can't give you a set answer. I will all depend on the elasticity and ability for the tissues of your penis to be manipulated through strech forces and internal stretch forces.
 
Your advice on HEAT to your dick makes total since before and during sessions as I have done this but what about your warm down afterward? It seems like a must in your CREEP science.
 
As far as a warm down goes studies actually say that during the end of stretching and inducing plastic deformation of tissue coldness is actually recommended for the molecular changes in the tissue to stay that way as they cool. That info can be found in the two links I posted on the first page.
 
Are you saying use cold wrap afterwards? I used to dunk my unit into ice water after sessions but quit after no one here agreed with doing that. When I was doing it I noticed my unit would be plump the whole time. I hear guys say they turtle but it would be the other way around for me.
 
I personally don't use ice but when sports theorpist have there patients hold stretchs for 10-20 minutes at a time they often have the stretched area iced during the last stretching set. The ice solidifies the cell structure to stay in its plasticly deformed state while stretched so when the stretch force is gone gains will more likely stay.
 
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Hey kingsnake.

how do you typically position the heater when your doing manual length/girth work without it hitting the testicles? I would imagine from the top (?)
 
I usually have a cloth or shir covering up my balls so the intense heat doesn't hit them. I also have a hot rice sock just below my balls in between my balls and anus to heat up the inner penile tissue in that area. I do this because when i do my tunica hanging all of the inner penile tissue from the base all the way to my asshole is being stretch with constant force. Hopefully this will pull out a good amount of inner penis.
 
Hey kingsnake, I have been sick and my cock is in a dead state almost for almost 2 weeks. I cant even get fully erect right now at the moment. Because of that girth work is almost out the window right now. I figured I would just start a PC work out and do it during some bundled stretches.

But my question is do you think this will pre-fatigue or give me more elasticity for future girth gains when I jump back into it?

Im not a stretching type of guy since I wanting girth so bad and neglected it so its new to me. I have stretched maybe 5-10 min every once and awhile but never stuck with it.

P.S. You should start a "Ask's kingsnake thread". Your one of the guys that most of us here want to as questions to.
 
He Girthhammer. Sorry for the late response. While you are on a girth break I think it's a great idea to work on bundled stretches and pc work. I actually consider bundled stretches a form of girth work because you are stretching the tunica laterial and diagnolly in all directions. I am still trying to come up with an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all day stretcher[/words] device that keeps your dick bundled in the process.

As far as a ask kingsnake thread I'm not sure if I have the right to open one up since I am just a regular member. If I get permisson from DLD or any other super moderator or administrator then I would be happy to create such a thread.
 
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Hei kingsnake
Can you tell me if this workout is good or would you change anything?
-morning-
stretcher (3h)-low intensity
heating
hanging 1kg 5min
3min pause
hanging 2kg 10min
3min pause
hanging 3.5kg 20min
cooling with cold water
---afternoon---
heating
stretcher (6h)-high intensity

---evening----
heating
30min manual exercises also for girth
cooling

pause(1h)

heating
stretcher (3h)-low intensity


Im also working on some easy low intense device that i could have when i sleep, mostly to fix the curve.
 
Hey plokter, sorry for the late response. I've been busy at work. Your routine looks pretty good. With the small rest time you have in between hanging sets make sure you check for numbness in your penis. Also between hanging sets stick your dick in a glass of warm water to reheat and keep circulation going. Also add some edging after your session is over to restore erection quality and penile heath to the stressed tissues.

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