Clamping: very poor expansion. Am I wasting my time?

[Shafty]

Hello my fellow clampers!
I have a concern regarding the pump (or lack thereof) I get when I'm clamped. I'm used to getting virtually no measurable expansion when I'm doíng generic girthwork, but to my dismay I noticed my clamped girth wasn't much better, either (this was the first time I measured my clamped girth). I could muster up an expansion that took me from my unclamped midshaft girth of 5.3'' to a measily 5.5'', and that was only for a couple of seconds. Most of the time when I'm clamped (even though everything looks all nice and puffy) the measurement stays right at my unclamped circumference.
I'm hearing about guys getting .5" or even .75" expansions, so naturally I'm a bit worried.

Does anyone have any advice/insight on how crucial the expansion is? And also how long one should hold the expanded state before easing up/releasing the clamp? I REALLY want my 5.5" of midshaft girth before next summer, so I'd truly appreciate any certain knowledge on whether or not I'm wasting my time if my expansions are this poor.

 

[AlloyCG]

Not everyone gets massive expansion during girth work. When I do a jelq session, I don't get ANY expansion, but I do get work done. Don't get dismayed by .5-.75" expansions; most is going to be lymph fluid build up. In fact, it is usually the fluid buildup that limits my girth routine.

Give us some details on your current routine, manual and clamping.

 

[Shafty]

Thanks for the prompt reply, alloy! Oh yeah, and congrats on your new mod status BTW! :yes:

My current routine is pretty versatile, since I often end up going for longer periods of time if I feel I have spent too many minutes stimulating myself back to an erection between sets. The total time alloted depends on how good my erection quality is that day, but the general frame of my workouts is as follows:
15 minutes of dry jelqing and SSJs, followed by 10 minutes of clamping (two 5 minute sets). When clamped I mainly do ULIs and horse440s. The total time it takes for me to finish a session, warmups- and downs included, is about 35 minutes.

I have found through trial and error that my erections and my entire penis suffer greatly if I try to do longer/more frequent girth workouts. My dick just can't handle those hour long clamping sessions that a lot of guys seem to be advocating. If I try and push it too far, my erection quality will decline to the point of not being able to finish a girth workout because I can't get hard enough.

Another interesting thing I've noticed is that my penile "well-being" is very much dependant on how much Penis Enlargementing I do in general (length AND girthwork). I can go for a few days of doing 30 minute sessions of both during the same day, and I'll start to feel like I'm doing more harm than good. My dick will actually shrink quite a bit in all dimensions from reduced bloodflow/responsiveness to stimulation.
Anyway, I'm only telling you this in case you were planning on recommending lengthier workouts. I know from past experience that I can't get anywhere with long sessions.

 

[joe_bloggs808]

Im like Aloy, I dont get any noticable expansion from a good workout. I tried clamping and like you didnt get much more of a benefit than jus using a cock ring thats not as tight.

 

[Im2mackin]

ok i've had this problem too shafty with the very little expansion. When applying your clamp to your penis flaccid apply it to your extreme penis base. Also keep it at the same amount of clicks or spins(hoseclamp) as you normally would. I usually keep it very tight. So then turn on ur favorite porno and look at the expansion. I guess why this has worked for me is because i have a thicker base then shaft. Try it out ---BONE PRESS UR CLAMP!

 

[philadelph]

Try to jelq lot's of blood into your penis, then wrap with a dress sock or whatever you use. How much initial expansion I get is related to how well I wrap. The great thing about measuring your clamped girth is you can see how much you are growing. When I started to clamp, I was lucky to measure at 5.5 girth. Now I get to a bit over 5.75 with ease.

 

[AlloyCG]

Thanks for the prompt reply, alloy! Oh yeah, and congrats on your new mod status BTW! :yes:

Another interesting thing I've noticed is that my penile "well-being" is very much dependant on how much Penis Enlargementing I do in general (length AND girthwork). I can go for a few days of doing 30 minute sessions of both during the same day, and I'll start to feel like I'm doing more harm than good. My dick will actually shrink quite a bit in all dimensions from reduced bloodflow/responsiveness to stimulation.
Anyway, I'm only telling you this in case you were planning on recommending lengthier workouts. I know from past experience that I can't get anywhere with long sessions.

Thanks for the congrats!

I'm glad you mentioned the length of workouts. I have something you need to try, because it may not be the length of the workout that's bringing you down. First of all, wet jelq every day. Don't do a jelq routine, just get a good 10 minutes of moderate jelqing in. You probably don't even need to warm up. Just make it a ritual of your day. When I jelq every day for at least a little bit, I find my girth routine gets 10x better.

Now, with the clamping - stop doing exercises. Just clamp. Warm up like you normally would, wrap (by the way, a LOT of people don't wrap right. I've found a very good method if you are interested. Sometimes the wrap can make or break a clamp session,) and apply the clamp. Do a 10 minute set. During this set, when you feel the pressure decrease, kegel and push the clamp down to the base. After 10 minutes, take off the clamp and the wrap, massage a little, and shake it out. Restimulate and repeat. Start with three sets.

The beauty of clamping is that it doesn't take doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and Horsies to get a good work out. The clamp is pretty hard core already. Give this a try, it may work out for you.

 

[AlloyCG]

I'm glad you mentioned the length of workouts. I have something you need to try, because it may not be the length of the workout that's bringing you down.

Sorry, I don't think I expained this. A lot of guys feel like they need to go ultra-intense to make progress, when not only can this harm gains but it can harm individual sessions themselves. Maybe by training longer and less intense you will see better results than balls to the wall 30 minute sessions that leave you lifeless. The routine I gave you should take about 40 minutes, minus warm up and cool down.

 

[TimBo755]

When I did my clamping routine the most expansion I have gotten was .25 and was only for like 20 minutes after clamping..I still managed a 1/8" gain in a matter of 3 months...haven't clamped for the past 3 weeks and its still there

 

[copper_handshak]

Hey AlloyCG, share your wraping method with us please Thanks

 

[Shafty]

Thanks for the input everyone!
I'll have to readjust my wrapping technique. So far I've been using toilet paper O) for cushioning coupled with a piece of cloth tied above the clamp on the lower shaft.
I'll also try a longer, less intense routine as you suggested, Alloy!

And Im2mackin, my dick is significantly thicker at the base as well. There's plenty of loose skin there, too, so it's really difficult to get the clamp to stay at the extreme base once the dick starts to get erect. The clamp just slides up the shaft with the skin. <
I don't know if that's a major issue, though, since I'm aiming for mid- and upper shaft girth gains.

 

[Stuff_]

I think this method may help you Shafty. When I wrap (I use a wash cloth cut in half), I wrap it comfortably at the base, and then put the clamp on at 1 tick, then I grab the skin with one hand, and push the clamp as far down as I can with the other. After that, I straighten up the wrap, and then push the clamp down again... I do this process about three times before going to three ticks and getting all the way hard, then going to 6 or so.

Anyway, the idea is you pull the skin through like that so it's as close to the base as possible, you can't get it closer with just putting it on. You have to readjust the wrap like that a few times to make sure it doesn't bunch up and pinch you when you tighten the clamp.

 

[Im2mackin]

Ok shafty i understand that it slips... thats probably because of the wrap. This is how i've been clampin forever,get a hose clamp,,, and tape it with duct tape covering the metal part that will touch ur penis.(dont tape up the whole clamp because then u wont be able to screw it tight) ok then just bone-press ur clamp while flaccid and get hard. Pull all that "extra skin" into the clamped portion of ur penis and ur should get better expansion. Watch not to clamp to long because some EXtra undershaft skin (closer to ur scrotum) may get irratated and painful. This way is not only very cheap(no wrap) but it also gives the clamp a good grip so there is no SLIPPING up the shaft.

 

[bIgjOe]

I'm not sure if you said whether you did or didn't, but if your having trouble maintaining erection levels during a girth workout its virtually useless. So if you aren't already, USE adult entertainment. Just my 2 cents.

 

[REDZULU2003]

If you dont like the clamps than try alternative constriction like Cock rings, hose clamps, string ect ect as they might work better for you.
Experiment to see what works best. Bare in mind even if you use a cock ring you'll still be doing constricters, they all fall into the same branch of category.

 

[Stuff_]

Just thought of something.. you know the roundish part on the bottom of the clamp where the two parts of it meet.. the joint of it? That part should be right on the underside of your shaft for the best expansion.

 

[TimBo755]

If your going for mid and upper, just move the clamp up...thats what I did, worked like a charm!

 

[goin4length]

When I started I used to click the cable clamp like 6 or so times and this limited my expansion and seemed to block a good inflow of blood. Now I only use 3-4 clicks and I usually get a little over a .5in mid-shaft expansion from clamping and I can feel all the blood flowing in durring the session. My girth is almost the same size as yours so try 3-4 clicks with some good padding (I use a piece of cloth I cut from a hand towel) and see how it feels. Remember you don't want to stop blood from flowing into your dick, you want to stop it from flowing out and that doesn't take a whole lot of pressure. Hope that was helpful. Good luck!

 

[quijjiboo]

Are you doing exercises while clamped? If so, you should be seeing at least some expansion. Even if you don't, once you've mastered clamping you can still get expansion without doing exercises. You do this by constant kegalling and edging (similar to whats done in the Supra Slammers) while clamped. I never used to get any expansion, then I learned to do said techniques constantly and I noticed fairly easy expansion. Add some intense exercises (squashes, uli's etc) on top of that and your dick will BLOW THE FUCK UP!

 

[Shafty]

More good advice from everyone! Cheers! :drinkup:

Red, I've experimented with hose clamps and strings before. The hose clamps were far too inconvenient, and the strings didn't constrict to a tight enough degree. I had to go through a lot of trouble to get a cable clamp from the U.S, but so far I can say it is superior to everything else I've tried. However, I've never tried out cock rings.

And stuff, I also found out through trial and error that the small knob where the axis of the clamp is should go under the shaft. This also keeps the plastic hook thing on the end of the clamp from getting in the way.

TimBo, I'll have to try moving the clamp up the shaft if it works as good as you say. I've ALWAYS resented the fact that my base girth is so much bigger than my midshaft, and it felt like there was no exercise that could change that. Maybe this would help.
Did you have any other problems from not clamping at the base?

Going4length, I usually don't clamp very tightly. My dick starts to feel 'dead' very quickly if I stop all bloodflow by clamping down to the last couple of clicks. It does seem to work better when I cut it some slack.

Quijjiboo, I haven't measured while doing an exercise, but I assume I'd get at least some expansion if I measured while doing, say, a clamped ULI. So far I've gotten up to 5.5" max with no exercise involved.
I always do kegels but I've never managed to master the art of edging. It's hard for me to cum on a whim, and ever since I got my dick accustomed to my [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FleshLight[/words], the pampered bastard has stopped getting off from regular masturbation. So edging is out of the question, unfortunately.
I do see what you mean, though. My best expansion came at at time when I was REALLY horny and in a jacked up mood. I didn't even need adult entertainment at that occasion; I just stroked myself and let my imagination take place of the adult entertainment, and when I whipped out the measuring tape I had gotten a nice expansion. Sort of like edging even though I didn't come close to cumming at any moment.

 

[HOOSYODADDI]

I agree with Alloy that the wrap can make or break the clamp session. I now use [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap and it works great with no pain. Previously, I had tried a nice, soft cotton bandana and got really bad pain at the base which deterred me from clamping again for a couple of months. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] wrap can be bought in any Wal-Mart, etc. for less than $2. Make sure to get the kind that does NOT have adhesive. Once you purchase it, you will not need the whole wrap. Experiment with different wrapping lengths and try to clamp as close to the base as possible without slipping off the wrap. For more info on this topic, you can go to RED's site, Zululand, at this link:

http://p214.ezboard.com/fthetrackerslairfrm21.showMessage?topicID=2.topic

On another note, while you are at the hardware store, pick yourself up a 1.25" chrome and/or rubber ring and use it for a cockring. You should see plenty of expansion with it if you get stimulated and it can actually be easier to do girth exercises with (dry jelqs, etc.). Go to a 1.0" size if the 1.25 is not tight enough for you (but it should be).

Hope this helps!

 

[DLD]

Are you training while in the clamped position, or are you training then clamping?

 

[Shafty]

Hoosyadaddy, I don't live in the States, and we don't have Wal-Marts here. But I assume the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] is like a standard medical grade bandage?
The cock ring thing sounds like a good idea. Do you think one could use a hose clamp in place of a cock ring? I have a couple of those laying around.

DLD, I train and clamp seperately.

 

[DLD]

DLD, I train and clamp seperately.

Why not try to train while clamped? I know that the soft wrap during Slow Squash Jelqs helps allot, I can imagine that the clamped version is insane.

 

[kingskong]

if it keeps you from having sex then your doin sumthin wrong

 

[kingskong]

haven done claming the way eveyone else does and i dont think im gonna after reading poor expansion