Ive been doing manual stretches, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and jelqing since back in May! Six months of probably 90% dedication. I skip a day here and there. And I have ZERO permanent gains. My dick has become extremely discolored. The only "gains" i have are right after I pump with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and its not even the HARD tissue part of my dick... it more feels like fluid between the tissue and the skin that adds the extra girth. my dick becomes fat and chubby but really doughy. As for length gains... nothing measurable at ALL... and my penis tilts to the left now which it never did before. i started growing hair up the bottom of my shaft just the TINIEST bit... which i was told is what happens when you make gains... but when I measure I am the EXACT same size I was at the beginning both length and girth. I could be losing my mind... but the last few weeks I've looked at my dick it actually seems to have gotten SMALLER.

I'm curious if anyone has gone for months without any gains and then made some? I LOVE the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] I really do... that extra inch in girth right after pumping is AWESOME when I'm fucking. But it goes away after a while and by the next day is gone completely. The discoloration is extremely embarrassing. my dick is two completely different colors. I"m just curious what I can do here.... I'd take the discoloration if I had made some gains!! I'm DYING for just an inch even.... If I got 2 or 3 inches my life would be complete! but after 6 months with no gains i'm not sure what to do. Help me out DLD!! lol
 
Generally speaking, stretching is for length gains, pumping is for girth gains.

How long have you been stretching each day? If you want to see gains in length in a reasonable amount of time, you really need to be using the stretcher for a minimum of 4 hours a day, preferably 6 hours a day.
 
I would love to see an inch expansion after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Holy smokes, that'd be huge.
 
I dont really count how many jelqs I do. I just do jelqs for sets of 10 minutes. 3 sets of ten minutes between 3 sets of 10 minute pumping. I have an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] I dont wear it for 6 hours... but I'd say about 3 hours a day. it hurts like hell and its annoying. I have to keep taking it off cause the head of my dick goes numb. It would be next to impossible to wear it for 6 hours a day... my dick would fall off. As for the girth from pumping. yeah its just shy of an inch. I"m 5 inches around regular. and after pumping I've gotten to 5 3/4. but then after a few hours its back to the regular size. And like i said above... the gains seem to be between the skin and the hard tissue... which just feels like fluid gains really... then when the fluid goes back into the body the gains are gone. I have yet to feel any gains in the actual HARD part of my dick when I'm erect. its usually over top of that. I dont like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] at all and I'm extremely tempted to start hanging... that seems like the most extreme form of length gains to me. I just am very discouraged to not have any gains at all and my dick is dark purple like a damn eggplant and its leaning to the left now. thats my only changes.
 
The one thing no one ever thinks about....kegels. that is the most important part and people don't even ask! I think most newbie gains can be credited to these.
 
how do you feel kegals can help with length gains? honest question.... the muscle you use for kegals doesnt seem to have much to do with the size of your dick...
 
Jersey fresh

Try wearing a cock ring after pumping and as for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] hurting, get yourself a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] and try that

Good luck
 
ok, i dont know what the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is... i'm not up on the lingo haha.
 
ok [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] got it, i just call it my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. but I dont know what the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is. sorry
 
kegals help a lot. might I add, IMPORTANT. If you have been growing new tissue, this will promote the increased amount of blood to fill up a bigger dick. This is why so much new guys freak out when they do Penis Enlargement for a couple weeks and experience weaker erections. They had new growth and no new blood to back it up. Mostly likely they thought kegals were not worth their time.

check out the threads on using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I was the same way about getting annoyed with having the take off the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] all the time. I'm able to extend two hours at a time and go back to back sessions now because it's so much better.

what was your manual stretching sessions like? How long total? How long were each stretch held? What would you say your level of intensity of pulling was? (an honest 100% my hands got tired before half way done with your routine?)

Have you read Opa's and Fedora's journals? When they didn't see some new gains in their flaccid stretch, they added a little more time, exercise, or intensity. When you start paying attention to the flaccid stretch, you can see what is and isn't work. Use the metric side of the ruler too. You can get some precise measurements with less strain, IMO.
 
blackout;463110 said:

if you look through the forum link you sent me. DLD says that that product is more for foreskin restoration? unless I read wrong. i do NOT want foreskin (no offense to those who have it) And what the HELL is wrong with that picture!?!? the dude has LONG ass hair all the way up to the head of his dick..... thats extremely unattractive... is that something that will happen? any way to stop it!?!? I would think that even having skin that can grow hair on the shaft of your dick would decrease sensitivity.... I hate to sound like im bitching..... but there seems to be like 10 million different people saying they made gains ten million different ways lol... I just want to use what I have.... the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and I also want to get the new product he has that has a hanger on it as well..... I would like to get this thing that attaches to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].... but only if its NOT for restoration... if i start getting foreskin or growing hair up my dick ill kill myself lol.
 
there is so many damn posts on this site its so hard to keep track lol. I just saw this BLAKOE ring you wear.... anyone have experience with that!?? I just want to put together the most bad ass products and routine for the most gains in the shortest amount of time. And I know thats what everyone wants... and I know that this is a "marathon" not a spring.... but I need to see SOME type of gains i'm losing hope. I should have had an inch in length by NOW... 6 months and NOTHING. just a purple dick. So if I get this [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] product.... it works with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] FOR LENGTH GAINS.... ??? erect gains??? I dont want foreskin restoration.
 
I think you should give DLD a PM. I would answer more in depth but my head is fucked. Send me a PM and I'll get back tommorow.
 
JF,
The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] is for shaft stretching.
The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] is for foreskin restoration.
JerseyFresh;463127 said:
if you look through the forum link you sent me. DLD says that that product is more for foreskin restoration? unless I read wrong. i do NOT want foreskin (no offense to those who have it) And what the HELL is wrong with that picture!?!? the dude has LONG ass hair all the way up to the head of his dick..... thats extremely unattractive... is that something that will happen? any way to stop it!?!? I would think that even having skin that can grow hair on the shaft of your dick would decrease sensitivity.... I hate to sound like im bitching..... but there seems to be like 10 million different people saying they made gains ten million different ways lol... I just want to use what I have.... the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and I also want to get the new product he has that has a hanger on it as well..... I would like to get this thing that attaches to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].... but only if its NOT for restoration... if i start getting foreskin or growing hair up my dick ill kill myself lol.
 
I was stuck for a long time at 7.75 " then girth came on a bit. Lately I jelq and I seem to be getting more length. But I was stuck at 7.5 for a year or more. Had to rethink how I was doing things. Wish I knew guys who do Penis Enlargement so they could show me, but like everyone else you have to keep trying to figure it out yourself.
 
just came here one more time to say that I just can NOT get gains. NOTHING. i've been doing this for like 8 months now. with NO gains. I've done manual jelqing and stretching. I've worn an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I"ve used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. My ONLY gains come from RIGHT after using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] a short term gain in girth. My penis is discolored half way down to the base it is deep purple for WEEKS now. I have started to grow hair up my shaft which is ugly. and even worse my penis now curves to the left. but not a single even quarter inch of gains in girth or length. SO i'm not sure what i'm "doing wrong" but i've done the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] hardcore beginner routine to the T for MONTHS with NO gains. so i'm losing faith and beginning to question if all the shit i've bought was bullshit.
 
JerseyFresh;466811 said:
just came here one more time to say that I just can NOT get gains. NOTHING. i've been doing this for like 8 months now. with NO gains. I've done manual jelqing and stretching. I've worn an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I"ve used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. My ONLY gains come from RIGHT after using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] a short term gain in girth. My penis is discolored half way down to the base it is deep purple for WEEKS now. I have started to grow hair up my shaft which is ugly. and even worse my penis now curves to the left. but not a single even quarter inch of gains in girth or length. SO i'm not sure what i'm "doing wrong" but i've done the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] hardcore beginner routine to the T for MONTHS with NO gains. so i'm losing faith and beginning to question if all the shit i've bought was bullshit.

you need a break. bad. seriously. im surprised you even get erections. you've got some serious deep tissue damage. not kidding dude. just focus on ballooning and some edging. just keep the blood flow good and do a little lite stretching here and there. nothing more. or you will regret it. in this break you may actually grow a bit. spend more time with your girl friend. she can help you keep erections longer to heal you up. best regards,

The Kidd
 
If you are not gaining there is something in your routine or lifestyle that will need to be corrected. I would have a good read through SRT Theory and see if any of it applies to you and the issues you are facing. It may really get you on the right track and get some inches under that belt!
 
Anyone else busted their ass with no gains ? Of course yes.

Search for similar posts here or on other Penis Enlargement forums, and you'll see that we've been a LOT like this. Some even quit in 3-6 months, 1 year, then come back later with a different approach and eventually get some, some say they waited 2 years to see gains.

On the other side, there are true legends like DLD, and others, fortunate enough (or wise enough, hint : [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] tips) to get 1 or 2 inches right after their [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]

About side effect, yes, Penis Enlargement involves some average (or bad) side effects that for some, may never go away : Discoloration (especially with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] = “two colors dick”), growing hair on the shaft, stretch marks. Honestly, I don’t care about it anymore and using dry jelqs a lot it seems it decreased the 2 colors effect (but my dick is still darker, with some even darker spots). I shave the extra hair. Never got any comment from my wife about it (fully erect you don’t notice it).

Now based on my very humble Penis Enlargement experience of 2 years and mostly a LOT of Penis Enlargement forum reading, I’ll list you some possible reasons for not getting gains at all :

1) Lack of dedication / consistency / focus / privacy time : non issue for you apparently (that’s one huge issue for me)

2) Measurement NBPL :
If you measure Non bone pressed, it’ll be hard to notice any small gain, it’s just not reliable (except for decent gains) because it’s hard to do it the same exact way. Go bone pressed.

3) Starting with a light or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] first :
The main reason for this is to progressively get your penis used to Penis Enlargement (stretches, jelqs). It made me feel like my penis was in “Penis Enlargement shape”, more flexible, more girth because of the consistent jelqs. Did you start with that before getting into the serious routine you describe ?

4) Finding your routine :
It can take time to find the right way to do the exercises (stretch with the right angle, the right strength), and find a routine and the exercises that really work for your body and penis (general hint is : choose the ones that you really "feel" in terms of temp gains, expansion for girth, stretch/burn and temp flaccid size for length). Some exercises may simply not work at all for you, or with very limited gains. Also try to use Reverse Kegels when you stretch, that will help you by relaxing your ligaments.

Also check the progress threads to see success stories of some (what exercises, how long, etc..) and try to apply some to you

5) Overtraining :
Since you did not get any newbie gains of 0.5" or 1", I would tend to think, you may have done "too much" "too soon" to your penis, so that it can't even recover from what you're doing. The routine you describe might be perfect for vets with 3, 5 or 10 years of Penis Enlargement under their belt, maybe it's too much for you yet. Generally you'd raise your routine up, if you gain then hit a plateau, and need to put your penis in a new situation, a different stress/expansion (I'm exactly there). I understand you gained nothing yet, so that would not be your case.

Cycling (doing a lot of something, then stopping not to have your organism getting used to it), is important too, like for sport, a diet or anything that could have an impact on your metabolism (and you want a high metabolism so your body create new cells/skin/tissue). I understand you take rest days so that would be non issue too.

6) General Health / Lifestyle :
If you can, have a healthy lifestyle (food, sport, lots of water, lots of rest/sleep, etc..), many have confirmed that's obviously a plus for gains. Cardio for a better blood flow, resistance seems good for testosterone.

Don't sleep enough, or drink too much alcohol for example, eat too much fat/sugar get overweight, and you'll kill your metabolism, you'll most probably sabotage your gains too (big pb for me too).

7) Be postitive and use vizualisation :
Like mentionned a lot on this forum, make your Penis Enlargement session like you're going to make it, not like "you know that's not going to work". If you stretch, watch your penis and visualize it like you COULD stretch it down to your KNEES. If you make girth, think about a hot girl/woman driving you crazy and think about how BIG you're going to be for her, how amazed and excited she will be, how BIG it’s going to grow for her, etc...

8) Edging, Kegels, reverse kegels
If you don’t edge, you don’t get your penis used to be filled by the most blood and expansion it could get (and more), thus, why your penis would even try to grow ? It does not need to.

For me edging while wearing a cockring or a clamp (using kegels, reverse kegels) is amazing (trying not to come for 20-30 min, don’t come at all if you can).

Kegels and Reverse Kegels will help you fill your penis improve erection quality. As one noted in the replies (and in the dld routines), don’t underestimate this aspect.

9) Check the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread in the same forum for other technical, experienced and efficient tips.

If really nothing works for you, then, you can try to focus just on one aspect only (girth of length) and see how it goes

Very Sorry for the huge/long post, hope that might help you find the issue.

Good Luck and keep us posted !
 
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I guess a ruler doesn't actually give correct measurements. Since after all those exercise or pressure the fat surrounding the base of the penis have reduce. Try to stretch the your penis and see if you can reach your navel. If on June the gap is about an inch. It should now have reach the navel. It's not how low it hangs.
 
ShapeShifter;469148 said:
Fantastic post Captain.Thick. I think you covered it all.

Thank you ShapeShifter :-)

Hey JerseyFresh, that's about 3 months since you posted this, any good news and gains yet ? I hope so

Bye
 
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