showers and growers

dhj · Dec 9, 2014

Is my assumption correct that being if you use a SG and/or UJW you can turn out being more of a shower than grower? I currently fall in the category of a grower but I would like to be the shower.

DLD · Dec 11, 2014

dhj;624622 said:
Is my assumption correct that being if you use a SG and/or UJW you can turn out being more of a shower than grower? I currently fall in the category of a grower but I would like to be the shower.

Yes, both methods work to train the flaccid penis to stay elongated. With time and practice you can get your flaccid size very close to your erect size. The flaccid penis is made to shrink when not being used and it takes retraining it to get it to stay elongated. Both methods will work.

Longth · Dec 11, 2014

doublelongdaddy;625157 said:
Yes, both methods work to train the flaccid penis to stay elongated. With time and practice you can get your flaccid size very close to your erect size. The flaccid penis is made to shrink when not being used and it takes retraining it to get it to stay elongated. Both methods will work.

This is generally over several months right? Like 3 to 6 for that to become more than a super fun sight in the bathroom mirror for a few seconds?

My usual hang seems a little more pronounced, but it looks real short between the 1 inch fat pad and 5.5 flaccid girth. I seriously am figuring like 3 inches nbpfl.

boohoohoo · Dec 11, 2014

I wonder if increased edging without ejaculation combined with some SSJ work can also increase flaccid length over time, anyone want to chime in on that? Over the past few days I began edging again while throwing in some SSJ's and avoiding ejaculation all but one time, and this has solved my severe turtling problem, but I am not sure if and in how much time it will change my flaccid state.

Can anyone speak to this?

acromegaly · Dec 11, 2014

My flacid has grown a ton since starting pe, still a grower not a shower though

Longth · Dec 11, 2014

boohoohoo;625201 said:
I wonder if increased edging without ejaculation combined with some SSJ work can also increase flaccid length over time, anyone want to chime in on that? Over the past few days I began edging again while throwing in some SSJ's and avoiding ejaculation all but one time, and this has solved my severe turtling problem, but I am not sure if and in how much time it will change my flaccid state.

Can anyone speak to this?

I've been edging for nearly 6 months. My flaccid is still dismal. I also routinely refrain from ejaculation but sometimes it is unavoidable. I probably manage not to about 70% of the time. Really aught to work on that.

boohoohoo · Dec 11, 2014

Longth;625217 said:
I've been edging for nearly 6 months. My flaccid is still dismal. I also routinely refrain from ejaculation but sometimes it is unavoidable. I probably manage not to about 70% of the time. Really aught to work on that.

Hmm, I find it hard to believe that edging doesn't at least battle extreme turtling. I mean when I do my edge + SSJ combo at the time my penis is expanding more than even a normal stretch, so it must be doing something. Plus if I don't ejaculate my penis tends to get hard more frequently throughout the day, which is another anti-turtling mechanism in and of itself.

But yeah, my flaccid is nothing to brag about so I could be wrong.

Longth · Dec 12, 2014

boohoohoo;625237 said:
Hmm, I find it hard to believe that edging doesn't at least battle extreme turtling. I mean when I do my edge + SSJ combo at the time my penis is expanding more than even a normal stretch, so it must be doing something. Plus if I don't ejaculate my penis tends to get hard more frequently throughout the day, which is another anti-turtling mechanism in and of itself.

But yeah, my flaccid is nothing to brag about so I could be wrong.

I had turtling maybe twice since I started back up 6 months (ish) ago. I don't think it's a bad sign for girth for me.

Nonetheless, I got a bathmate early on, and I use it as a warm down from extending. Zero turtling, just a bizarrely mediocre flaccid hang.

DLD · Dec 12, 2014

youknowme123321;625248 said:
15 lbs with a bib for an hr??? you are the only person in the world who can do that. i got up to 50 minute sessions with the LM but that was with multiple changes in tension b/c i was using resistant bands and could go from 2 lbs of tension to 25 lbs in seconds. i would back & forth between those weights

Well tbh I don't feel any pain doing what I do 90% of the time, and as far as gains go my system seems to be working for me. Nonetheless I am still interested in vac attachments (mainly for use as extenders, not so much as hangers) because I see a huge potential there. Thanks again for the video!

Longth · Dec 12, 2014

doublelongdaddy;625364 said:
It took me all of 6 months to see a permanent change in flaccid hang. I wore the Ace Strap every day all day, in between training. I suggest to just start now and not think so much on time, just concentrate on a good, long wrap that brings you past your erect length size and wear it as much as possible. Eventually the penis will become trained to remain elongated.

That sounds like something to consider. Right now I'm using a loose ring all night in an attempt to cement girth. When I get to cementing length I'm all over that. You'd be able to use that overnight without trouble right?

DLD · Dec 12, 2014

Longth;625374 said:
That sounds like something to consider. Right now I'm using a loose ring all night in an attempt to cement girth. When I get to cementing length I'm all over that. You'd be able to use that overnight without trouble right?

Yes, the Ace Wrap can be worn at night, the worst thing that can happen is the wrap will come loose.

Longth · Dec 12, 2014

doublelongdaddy;625410 said:
Yes, the Ace Wrap can be worn at night, the worst thing that can happen is the wrap will come loose.

Perfect.

3 days away from starting the full size routine. I am going to do a ton of pics for the proof and progress section. Going to be a long year. No pun intended.

boohoohoo · Dec 12, 2014

doublelongdaddy;625364 said:
It took me all of 6 months to see a permanent change in flaccid hang. I wore the Ace Strap every day all day, in between training. I suggest to just start now and not think so much on time, just concentrate on a good, long wrap that brings you past your erect length size and wear it as much as possible. Eventually the penis will become trained to remain elongated.

One question for DLD or anyone else who may know. Can I still increase my flaccid length from just doing my regular length routine (2 hours of daily hanging) without wearing the UJW or some other type of ADS?

Longth · Dec 12, 2014

boohoohoo;625458 said:
One question for DLD or anyone else who may know. Can I still increase my flaccid length from just doing my regular length routine (2 hours of daily hanging) without wearing the UJW or some other type of ADS?

My guess is yes, but the methods you don't prefer are obviously going to be more efficient.

acromegaly · Dec 12, 2014

boohoohoo;625458 said:
One question for DLD or anyone else who may know. Can I still increase my flaccid length from just doing my regular length routine (2 hours of daily hanging) without wearing the UJW or some other type of ADS?

if you are making erect gains you are gaining flaccid too, infact most people notice flaccid gains first i think.

boohoohoo · Dec 13, 2014

acromegaly;625471 said:
if you are making erect gains you are gaining flaccid too, infact most people notice flaccid gains first i think.

It's weird, I was making flaccid stretch gains when I first started hanging again, but since then they have entirely stopped. On the other hand, my erect gains have continued to come in. No idea why this is, and I am cretainly interested in becoming a shower.

DLD · Dec 13, 2014

boohoohoo;625617 said:
It's weird, I was making flaccid stretch gains when I first started hanging again, but since then they have entirely stopped. On the other hand, my erect gains have continued to come in. No idea why this is, and I am cretainly interested in becoming a shower.

The process of gaining length usually happen in that order, first you will see flaccid gains, mostly in BP flaccid stretched and after that the BP erect gains start to come in and the process repeats. You seem to be in a good place.

boohoohoo · Dec 13, 2014

doublelongdaddy;625649 said:
The process of gaining length usually happen in that order, first you will see flaccid gains, mostly in BP flaccid stretched and after that the BP erect gains start to come in and the process repeats. You seem to be in a good place.

I hope so. Last measurement I was 7.5 BPEL, and my goal for my next measurement (to be taken on Dec 30th) is to be 7.75 BPEL. That would really make me happy.

DLD · Dec 15, 2014

boohoohoo;625728 said:
I hope so. Last measurement I was 7.5 BPEL, and my goal for my next measurement (to be taken on Dec 30th) is to be 7.75 BPEL. That would really make me happy.

I am looking forward to the date! Believe in yourself and really get your mind into training hard and the gains will happen, I promise.

LONGERDICK7+ · Dec 15, 2014

a five inches shower, once he gets erect he is still five inches, a 5 inches flaccid penis dont look that short and the �� girl thinks the dick would get bigger, may be ten inches but will not happen weird creatures we are hahaha

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