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I'm posting this thread I started in another forum on Wed Jun 11, 2003 -- I think it can help newbies....


Is Penis Enlargement for real?
Obviously, the first time anyone is confronted with Penis Enlargement, they have to be deeply suspicious - I know I was. I thought this was some elaborate scam, and that people were playing along (like the Emperor's new clothes), each trying to "out-do" the other with tall tales. I thought it was bullshit, and thought so for a while....until I started seeing some gains. I noticed that there were other forums around the Net, with other guys all posting gains & helping one another - and NOT asking for any money. I also ran into an old school mate who told me he added 2" to penis from doing "milking exercises & stretching ."

My 2nd Question
Okay, so Penis Enlargement seems to be valid - but will it work for ME? Some guys seemed to be making big, rapid gains - an inch or so in only a month or two. While I struggled at first, I seemed to only gain girth, but very little length . So maybe this stuff only works for a lucky few? Great, for them; lousy for me.

My Conversion
I have now gained a full inch in erect length & more than that in erect girth. At 38 years of age, my penis is the biggest it's EVER been in my entire life. And I'm not finished yet.

What Advice Can I Give?
First, Penis Enlargement is NOT a hoax - nor is it any guarantee. The results truly vary. I have read of guys gaining 3" in one year....even 2.75" in several months. I've also read of guys Penis Enlargement'ing an entire year & gaining only a half inch. And, yes, I've see posts from a few fellows who claimed to have gained nothing at all.
Can't the same be said of weight training? I mean, steroid users aside, we all progress differently. I remember taking my bench from 180 lbs to 300 lbs in about 6.5 months. And then to 350 in about 3 more months. It then took me another full year to hit 400 lbs, but after that, the gains were really slow....taking me to about 435, with a full pause on the chest. Yet, I knew guys who never benched 250 lbs. Could they say that weight training was a "scam"? How?

The Keys to Penis Enlargement Success
So why do some gain quickly & others gain slowly....and still others, not at all? Many factors. But let's examine a few.

(1) Length of ligaments. If you have short tight ligaments in your penis (often evidenced by a high angle of erection & general tightness if you attempt to move your penis downward while fully erect), then you have a considerable bit of "inner penis" which can be stretched out fairly quickly - by doing lots of downward stretches . I bet that this is key in most of the rapid gains we read about. However, if you have longer, looser ligaments (often evidenced by a low angle of erection), then you have less potential gains at your disposal from ligament stretching ....you need to focus on tunica stretching - which is slower & tougher to achieve.
(2) Intensity. Simply put, you need to gradually increase intensity (& volume) in both your jelqing & stretching exercises. I know all the manuals say to pull gently & feel no pain - but that's strictly for newbies. You need to up the intensity over time, or you're wasting your time.
(3) Workout Frequency. You need to experiment with this. Don't just copy some other guy's routine. Find out what works best for YOU. 1 on, 1 off; 2 on, 2 off; 2 on, 1 off; 1 on, 2 off; every other day; 5 on, 2 off, etc., etc. Don't be afraid to experiment! Or you'll never find your optimum frequency.
(4) Your General Fitness. Strive to get healthier, more fit. This can only help your Penis Enlargement efforts - better oxygenation of blood, waste removal, hormonal levels, etc., etc.
(5) Avoid (Abuse of) Substances Which Hinder Your Penis Enlargement. Too much alcohol will hurt hormonal levels. Too much caffeine (& nicotine) will constrict blood vessels, hurt circulation. Also, cigarrettes kill vitamin C & other antioxydants in the body - releasing free radicals which will damage the very cells you're trying to build up through Penis Enlargement!
(6) Those who persevere will achieve victory. If you quit, your penis will never grow - ever. In fact, as you age it will gradually shrink somewhat. Whether you gain an inch in 1 month - or in 16 months, it's growth. Stay with Penis Enlargement, & train smart, & you should make gains. Sometimes it takes a while for any gains to kickstart. I've read about guys who were only a month away from giving up (after many months of fruitless effort) when the gains suddenly came. Had they given up, they never would have made any gains.

Lingering Questions
I obviously don't know how much more I will gain. Will I go on to get 2", 2.5", 3 inches???? Who knows? I consider myself a work in progress, I will just have to wait & see. Also, are these gains truly permanent if I completely stop Penis Enlargement? I mean, "permanent" as in 'for the rest of my life'? Again, I'm not sure. But Penis Enlargement, for me, is a journey. I'll worry about the exact destination as I feel myself nearing it.

Best wishes.
- WaxN

P.S., Do this for yourself, for your own peace of mind - not for any woman, or to post your "success" in some online forum, etc.
 
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Well said Waxn, i like this post .The Main thing i think that can be said to all new people is ...Don't give up ,Like Waxn said everyone gains at a different pace . And even if you don't make any gains in the first month or so in size trust me you will see a great deal of difference in your erections and also in your stamina .
 

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nice post.

Just the part about when you age it shrinks.
It actually doesnt shrink, it seems to, but it dunt.
It is actually when you age the circulation gets crapper and crapper and you get weak erections thus your penis size aint as big as say before.
 
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Originally posted by WaxN
I'm posting this thread I started in another forum on Wed Jun 11, 2003 -- I think it can help newbies....


Is Penis Enlargement for real?
Obviously, the first time anyone is confronted with Penis Enlargement, they have to be deeply suspicious - I know I was. I thought this was some elaborate scam, and that people were playing along (like the Emperor's new clothes), each trying to "out-do" the other with tall tales. I thought it was bullshit, and thought so for a while....until I started seeing some gains. I noticed that there were other forums around the Net, with other guys all posting gains & helping one another - and NOT asking for any money. I also ran into an old school mate who told me he added 2" to penis from doing "milking exercises & stretching ."
Funny, I had the same thoughts the first time I saw the Betterman/powerjelq forums. "Is this for real?" :D, sorry guys I just had to. That place is practically dead these days.
 
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Originally posted by REDZULU2003
nice post.
Just the part about when you age it shrinks.
It actually doesnt shrink, it seems to, but it dunt.
It is actually when you age the circulation gets crapper and crapper and you get weak erections thus your penis size aint as big as say before.
Well, whatever the physiology behind it, I was 6.5" bpel as a young man, but 6.12" bpel when I started at 37.... so I lost roughly a 1/2" inch - according to the ruler. I bet this syndrome only worsens through 40's & 50's, 60's, etc. - unless you take proactive measures (such as Penis Enlargement).
 

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I agree.
I am glad you are here at MOS.
I know you from CC, I saw ya their many times, you are the Guru their in my eyes.

Maybe one day you can visit my other home, PridePenis.
Its a good site as well.

You seem to know alot.
 
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Fellows, it doesn't shrink, just gets squishy! That is where Penis Enlargement comes into play and with good circulation again and keeping yer ole penis in good shape with lots of blood supply, the erections come back hard as ever. I am 62 and after several years of Penis Enlargement, not all good ones, but the last year has been awesome with help from DLD. I lost two inches from Peyronies, but have really seen some good gains lately. Had a flaccid stretch of 7+ a couple weeks ago and now it has become a reality! Reaching for that 8 inch mark again and then some. Wish more older guys would see the advantage of Penis Enlargement and see the benefits of it. Not only helps the sex life but general positive spirit along with it. GS
 

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WaxN,

(1) Length of ligaments. If you have short tight ligaments in your penis (often evidenced by a high angle of erection & general tightness if you attempt to move your penis downward while fully erect), then you have a considerable bit of "inner penis" which can be stretched out fairly quickly - by doing lots of downward stretches. I bet that this is key in most of the rapid gains we read about. However, if you have longer, looser ligaments (often evidenced by a low angle of erection), then you have less potential gains at your disposal from ligament stretching....you need to focus on tunica stretching - which is slower & tougher to achieve.
So let me guess this "straight" (hehe): If my penis is angled high,
meaning that it could almost touch my body as opposed to being
erect but straight and parallel to the floor, I can stretch downward
and have length gains as you explained in your post ? Why wasn't
I made aware of this earlier! :D

I'm gonna get to it now...

PS. Can anyone tell me the use of measuring "bone pressed" as
opposed to simply to the body ? I don't see the functional reason
to do so...
 

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PS. Can anyone tell me the use of measuring "bone pressed" as
opposed to simply to the body ? I don't see the functional reason
to do so...

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Well if ya do it to ya body its aint the correct size as theirs some of ya penis hidden by pubic fat.
DLD himself has 2 inches of it, I have 1/4 inch of it, most men get about 1/2 to 1 inch of it.

Doing it to the bone gets past this crap and gives a correct accurate measurement.
 

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I'm more concerned with the long-term functionality of doing this:
unless I plan on doing penis enlargement for a very long time, and
assume that at some points I will have maximal results (based on
BP measurements), it doesn't really serve a purpose. If I have 6.0
inches non-BP, this is all the girl is going to care, if you see what I
mean...

But if I were to measure BP, I guess it could add .15 - .40 inches;
quick gains! :D
 

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:D

Well boy,
The WHOLE size from the tip of ya dick head to the Bone will go into ya girl.
Do sex the right way making sure it all goes in and ya will get the BP stats in their.

I do!!!!

Anyways I answered ya questions,
Got others to answer so please dont keep debating this over and over and over.
ALL pe'ers I know of and have read about in all forums I been to measure BP.
If ya dont want to and see no point than dont bother.
 
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Well the only reason to measure bp is to know exactly what gains you have made ...if you dont do it bp then you may not be getting an exact reading of gains...because you may not be messuring at the same spot if you dont do bp .
 

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Originally posted by AfterTheShock
Well the only reason to measure bp is to know exactly what gains you have made ...if you dont do it bp then you may not be getting an exact reading of gains...because you may not be messuring at the same spot if you dont do bp .
This was a much better answer than RED's ;)

Thank you for the information, gentlemen...
 
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Guys, BP measurements are more accurate too because changes in bodyfat can alter the measurements. For example, your fat pad (on your pubis) could fluctuate in size with no only bodyweight changes, but even water retention (if you ate a lot of salty stuff, etc.).
Let's say you lost 20 lbs, and your NBPenis EnlargementL went up 0.2"....did your penis really "grow"? Of course not - the fat around it shrank. But if you did the ruler in when you measure, then ANY increase on the ruler will be a *true* size increase.
And, like RZ said, when I'm jammin it, I can dig deep into my fat pad.
 
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Great post Wax'N. Sums it up very nicely for us newbies. Being 39, I can confirm that my BPenis EnlargementL of just under 6 inches is probably a good 1/4-1/2 inch less than what it was just 10 years ago. Of course friggin' celibacy doesn't help!!

As I posted one time over at Thunder's, I'm in this for the health of it as well. Use it or lose it is an understatement, for sure.

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Thanks bro, your words is stuff we all tought, now after years I have learned a lil heheh
 
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