that's what this is all about tonight. i have been accused of saying so much i didn't even know what i said and if i believed it. then i go back and look from my very first FR post and it becomes quite obvious. if i'm anything, it's a fool for being so completely manipulated and allowing someone to make me look so foolish. i won't allow that to happen again. it's all lowkey and polite until swank gets involved. i have to admit, tho, that he knows how to push those buttons! he's good!

you believe what you want. Just do me a favor and keep your opinions to yourself until you read ALL the threads and try FR for yourself. I don't think that's unreasonable.
 
kong1971 said:
Bump for Swank and Skepdick
Ya know Kong, for someone who CLAIMS to be personally hurt by all of these posts and threads which debate your FR claims, and for someone who keeps CLAIMING that they are done on the subject/done debating with Swank and myself/done being a MOD/done being a member on the forum bc you just can't deal with it you sure do like to stir up shit. Why else would you ressurrect all these threads "for Swank and Skepdick." I have been pretty diplomatic up to this point but I will just go out and say that it should be clear to anyone just how full of shit you are at this point. I am done on the matter of FR unless you drag me back in.
 
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Ya know Kong, for someone who CLAIMS to be personally hurt by all of these posts and threads which debate your FR claims, and for someone who keeps CLAIMING that they are done on the subject/done debating with Swank and myself/done being a MOD/done being a member on the forum bc you just can't deal with it you sure do like to stir up shit. Why else would you ressurrect all these threads "for Swank and Skepdick." I have been pretty diplomatic up to this point but I will just go out and say that it should be clear to anyone just how full of shit you are at this point. I am done on the matter of FR unless you drag me back in.

Umm, maybe after reading all the latest posts between you and swank in the confused thread, I thought the truth needed to come out about what I really think and claim. Would you sit idly by and let a couple other dudes run you down constantly? Especially when most of what they say are lies? Nope, didn't think so. Over the next few days, I will be going back over the basics and RE-iterating what I believe FR can do and what I have experienced. It will be what I really believe and not all this miracle crap that you keep attributing to me, which is in fact bogus and spread over the last 6 months by swank. I am not going to let you guys keep putting words in my mouth or undermining my credibility. In the end, it will be obvious who is full of shit. This is all so ridiculous I can't even begin to describe it, as all my official claims about the benefits of restoration are stickied right at the top! You want to attack me personally and call me a liar and a kook and full of shit, you can take it elsewhere, cause what I claim is right up there at the top in black and white.
 
Kong skin is very elastic,if it wasn't it wouldn't spring back on the back of your hand when you leave go of it,a bit like a rubber band.

If having extra skin means faster gains from Penis Enlargement then shouldn't uncut men make the quickist gains?

I'm uncut and its take 2.5 years of dedicated peing to gain just over an inch in length and .5 in girth.

Also can you tell me what you mean when you talk about having a hairy shaft from being cut,i have hair that grows half way down the front of my shaft and 3/4 of the way down the back of the shaft,i just shave it off.
 
I am uncut as well and my girth gains have been very slow. My length gains when implementing a length routine are very quick but I don't think this has to do with having a foreskin.
 
Being uncut pretty much eliminates skin from the equation as far as Penis Enlargement gains go. The real question is how much of an effect circumcision has on Penis Enlargement gains. I think it runs the spectrum from NO EFFECT to SEVERE EFFECT. If we look at it that way, FR can be employed as a tool to quicken the newbie gains phase and get that trapped percentage of penis out fast. If some of us here can get past the cut/uncut controversy and look at it objectively without trying to stir shit or blow it out of proportion, maybe we can come up with some ideas on how to detect trapped penis, how to free it quick, and get down to the business of getting huge! Alot of guys are balking at the whole issue because of the FR angle, but it doesn't have to be so. Use the skin expansion trick to help pull out some fast, decent gains! Not going to work for uncut or loose cut guys, tho!
 
Skin stretches AS you Penis Enlargement. You stretch the skin as you jelq and stretch. I had a perfect circumcision, my skin isnt tight, my penis was obviously not altered in size due to circumcision, IMO, (naturally with little Penis Enlargement 8x5.75), I only hook a little left due to masturbation and putting pressure on shaft certain ways when I do it. I do have some horizontal stretch marks, very small, which I can say were from skin stretching manually or natural growth.

I never had a problem with skin and many circumcized men will attest to the same thing. The skin stretches way more readily than the multiplcation/expansion of tissue in the penis and stretching of the ligaments. Skin is pretty much a moot issue in Penis Enlargement since it can be stretched so easily overtime. Penis Enlargement gains can be pretty wishy washy depending, sometimes they come sometimes they go, sometimes they wont come forever, but if you try stretching just the skin it can be pretty easy, IMO.

Anyhow, just my opinion. And from the opinions of uncut men, it seems there is no advantage in Penis Enlargement to it, it simply varies. One finaly note, many uncut men have actually complained about the foreskin being "bothersome" and "in the way" when Penis Enlargementing.
 
Skin stretches easier than scar tissue. I'll give you that. You can't say that no one has problems with it because you personally had a good, loose circ-- which is something I hear from alot of hung, loose cut guys. What about the rest of us?

And, yes, "trapped penis" has nothing to do with uncut guys. I think that's pretty much understood.
 
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