DriverNuts

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it seems like all of you guys are starting out at a minimum of 6.5" or even 7" usually.

and I read that your starting size is what really matters. am I just doomed to be tiny my whole life? or should I give this a shot? I'm 5.5 inches hard, yeah. sad. I know.
 
I mean I would kill something to make my penis an inch bigger. It's just unbelievable to me that you could make your penis a FULL INCH bigger. I mean I'm sitting here with a ruler looking at how much that is. I'd kill man. That's a big difference.
 
First of all, 5.5" is hardly a "bad size". Sure, no one's ever going to call you "huge", but 5.5" is, at the very least, the low end of the "normal" spectrum. It's hardly what I would call "sad", and there's no reason you should feel so bad about having one.

Second, trust me-- a master in the bedroom could still send shockwaves through a girl with a 5.5 incher. Unless you're officially in the small range, as in the 4 inchers and below, you're not going to have any mechanical difficulties that can't be remedied with practice and savvy.

Lastly, even if you gained nothing more than an inch, that'd put you at 6.5", in which case you'd then be above average. So you've got nothing to lose really. And, if you really do manage to grow a good 2 inches or so, you'll be well above average and comfortably in the realm of "really big".

I'd say it's definitely worth it, but even if you don't try it, you've got no reason to be so down on yourself. Whether you're 5.5" or 7.5", there's a lot you can do with that thing.
 
edaily55 said:
First of all, 5.5" is hardly a "bad size". Sure, no one's ever going to call you "huge", but 5.5" is, at the very least, the low end of the "normal" spectrum. It's hardly what I would call "sad", and there's no reason you should feel so bad about having one.

Second, trust me-- a master in the bedroom could still send shockwaves through a girl with a 5.5 incher. Unless you're officially in the small range, as in the 4 inchers and below, you're not going to have any mechanical difficulties that can't be remedied with practice and savvy.

Lastly, even if you gained nothing more than an inch, that'd put you at 6.5", in which case you'd then be above average. So you've got nothing to lose really. And, if you really do manage to grow a good 2 inches or so, you'll be well above average and comfortably in the realm of "really big".

I'd say it's definitely worth it, but even if you don't try it, you've got no reason to be so down on yourself. Whether you're 5.5" or 7.5", there's a lot you can do with that thing.
really? well, I haven't had any complaints, but... I guess it would just give me more confidence. you guys starting out with 7 inches kill me.

You say "even if you gained nothing more than an inch" like it's not that much? how many years would that take to make your penis grow an inch!? is this something that we can do in 30 minutes/day if we wake up earlier? I read one guy does this 4 hours per day, is he retired or something? the newbie routine looks like it would take around 30 minutes but is that newbie routine enough to grow a WHOLE INCH?
 
Is there any reason to do this?? Hell yeah!

A consistent finding has been that starting size has no effects on gains, so you can expect to gain as much as anyone else. If you are dedicated for several years, there is no reason why you can't grow 2" to 7.5", which is often described as ideal for length.

So you have a reasonable shot of getting an ideal penis with lots and lots of hard work, and you're wondering whether you should even bother? Get working!
 
DriverNuts said:
really? well, I haven't had any complaints, but... I guess it would just give me more confidence. you guys starting out with 7 inches kill me.

You say "even if you gained nothing more than an inch" like it's not that much? how many years would that take to make your penis grow an inch!? is this something that we can do in 30 minutes/day if we wake up earlier? I read one guy does this 4 hours per day, is he retired or something? the newbie routine looks like it would take around 30 minutes but is that newbie routine enough to grow a WHOLE INCH?

Don't get me wrong; gaining an inch is no small feat. But it's hardly insurmountable, either. Many guys have [claimed] to gain an inch, or nearly so, in a matter of months (4-5, etc.). But the "textbook" wisdom says that the average Penis Enlargement'er gains an inch in about 8 months.

In either case, that's a WORLD of difference that can be reasonably expected in well under a year of work. Totally worth it, don't you think?
 
Driver,

First of all, 5.5 is about average according to the latest studies. No shame in that at all.

Second, it isn't your starting size that determines gains. There's some complicated business about the length of your suspensory and fundiform ligaments that determines how much of your gains can come from the ligs ("easy" gains). After lig gains, you have to work on tunica gains, which takes longer. I'd be willing to bet that most people can gain an inch just from the ligs. Check out Bib's LOT thread to understand this better:

http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15678

Your join date indicates that you've been a member for quite a while, but it seems you haven't started yet. I don't know how much knowledge you have about Penis Enlargement, but if that last paragraph didn't make much sense, you can check out this article:

http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17108

And the girth one:

http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17109

Give the newbie routine a go for 6-8 weeks. If you're still making gains on it at that point, keep doing it until the gains run out. After that, you may decide to do Phase 2 as outlined on the paysite, or you could design your own routine using some of the exercises in those articles. You may decide to try hanging. There are a lot of different approaches that work.

While I'm pimping my articles :D , I might as well point you to my Product Review thread. You may end up deciding to buy some Penis Enlargement tools in the future, and this should be helpful in the decision.

http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18978
 
DriverNuts, dude no need to kill anybody, an inch on this site is very likely if not expected feat for anyone who really throws themselves into it. I would say if you really wanted to be dedicated and consistent you could see an inch of length in 6 months to a year. Consider the newbie gains from jelqing, the newbie gains from manual stretching, and the newbie gains from hanging, and you may have an inch alone there. Of course you would have to ask yourself, are you willing to invest the time, and the money on vaseline and a hanger? I'm willing to guess that since you were willing to kill someone, this shouldn't be too much to ask:) .
Also what's your girth? Do you have any aspirations of increasing that too? Of course if you only wanted length it will be that much easier. Seriously though man, you've come to the right place. Start reading what you need to know, and get your ass in gear now! Good luck!
 
I started around 5.5" and after about a solid year i have gained a little over an inch so its worth it no matter where you start!
 
I am in the same boat. Around 5.5 erect and a lot smaller soft.
Wife thinks I am crazy about my Penis Enlargement and says it will fall off with all the things I do to it.LMAO
 
DriverNuts said:
it seems like all of you guys are starting out at a minimum of 6.5" or even 7" usually.

and I read that your starting size is what really matters. am I just doomed to be tiny my whole life? or should I give this a shot? I'm 5.5 inches hard, yeah. sad. I know.


I started 5.1 bp and now after more than 3 years hard work of several hours per day i arrived with 7.4 bp erect lenght;

Just keep it on and make the best of it !
 
those are good gains shadus!!
i too started small ( 5 inch nbpel) after 8 months i reached 6 inches nbpel (i didnt have newbie gains and this is where i am at today) i plan to stick with this for the next few years because i know gains are very possible it just takes more time in some people than others....
 
DriverNuts said:
it seems like all of you guys are starting out at a minimum of 6.5" or even 7" usually.

and I read that your starting size is what really matters. am I just doomed to be tiny my whole life? or should I give this a shot? I'm 5.5 inches hard, yeah. sad. I know.

Of corse you should do it, and 5.5" is not sad, it is normal.
 
Some good advise here on the best physical applications of stretching, you may also look into bundled and rotary stretches (when time allows experience). I also think it important to address the mental applications, when stretching. Having a visual goal, a solid belief and a clear picture and motivation is so important to making this happen. The mind is so vital in making these physical (some would say meta-physical) things happen.

Our penis stopped growing (between 18 and 21) and since that time, for us older men, we have seen one size. Changing that size is something that is incredible, so it is important to familiarize yourself with the stories of success found within the site. Real, hard evidence does wonders for faith:).
 
DriverNuts, im still a newbie to all of this, but i will tell you this, it is DEFINITLY worth your time. I gained half an inch in length in as little as 5 months, and im very happy with it to say the least. Some people gain that alot quicker, but a gain is a gain and that is way better than no gain. If you start and do it smart and consistantly, you realy dont know where you are gonna wind up, esp after a good year. I just recently hit 7.5 nbp after doing the newbie routine for a while then taking a break, and i was going to stop there, but now i want the full 8 inches non bone pressed by the end of this year. This whole pe thing is realy quite a fun journey, and you should definitly give it a shot. Like others said, an inch would put you at 6.5, and thats in the "big" category and is def above average. Id say thats a pretty good thing to work towards, then once you get that, go for more.
 
DriverNuts said:
You guys are being very supportive and I really appreciate it. I really do. see I'm a short guy, so because of that little bit of insecurity I've kind of built a really athletic physique (no steroids don't worry) and because of that I've also felt like well if I'm shorter then my cock must be small too :(

It is amazing how many "false truths" we build around ourselves. It seems like the best mirror for these is the anonymity the internet gives us. They become so evident when we press :enter: and another man can answer you with information that will change your life, forever. Really incredible.

I could say, it does not matter, your insecurities that is but that would be acceptance. MOS is about change and if you want a bigger penis...go get it!:)
 
Hey driver...dont feel bad cause guys here say that there dick is 7 or 8 inches long........i have seen pictures of there penises with with a ruler next to it and id would say 85 percent are dreamers. these guys who claim to0 have 7 inchers give themselvesd like 2 extra inches .....i swear. That is why i only measure accual insertable penis. So dont feel bad cause 95 percent of the guys on her have 5 inch penises....and when they measure it the start off at the 2 inch mark and then claim to have a 7 or 8 incher. i kinda feel bad for them, but part of me wants to tell them how obvious and pathetic it is what they are doing.. Get to work man.....Penis Enlargement really works...
 
desiel_dick said:
Hey driver...dont feel bad cause guys here say that there dick is 7 or 8 inches long........i have seen pictures of there penises with with a ruler next to it and id would say 85 percent are dreamers. these guys who claim to0 have 7 inchers give themselvesd like 2 extra inches .....i swear. That is why i only measure accual insertable penis. So dont feel bad cause 95 percent of the guys on her have 5 inch penises....and when they measure it the start off at the 2 inch mark and then claim to have a 7 or 8 incher. i kinda feel bad for them, but part of me wants to tell them how obvious and pathetic it is what they are doing.. Get to work man.....Penis Enlargement really works...
Who does this? I can think of maybe one that I've seen that is as questionable as you make it sound, but you make it seem like 2 out of 3 measured pics are fallacy, and well they aren't. Also, how do you start off at the 2 inch mark with a hard ruler?
Is it me or does this post have some hint of animosity in it? Tell me, you just joined last month, but you've obviously had alot of experience with Penis Enlargement, what forum are you coming from?
If your post was meant in an honestly amiable way, then I apologize. I am a little sleep deprived right now and may be trippin' over nothing, but something about the way you came right out and started bashing the picture proof section of our forum after being here for only a month just seems a little odd to me. Just curious.....
 
desiel_dick said:
Hey driver...dont feel bad cause guys here say that there dick is 7 or 8 inches long........i have seen pictures of there penises with with a ruler next to it and id would say 85 percent are dreamers. these guys who claim to0 have 7 inchers give themselvesd like 2 extra inches .....i swear. That is why i only measure accual insertable penis. So dont feel bad cause 95 percent of the guys on her have 5 inch penises....and when they measure it the start off at the 2 inch mark and then claim to have a 7 or 8 incher. i kinda feel bad for them, but part of me wants to tell them how obvious and pathetic it is what they are doing.. Get to work man.....Penis Enlargement really works...


I to never realy understood measuring bone pressed, but i just started tracking it seriously and probably will continue to do so, to me it does make sense now for tracking total gains. Since im 7.5 nbp and 8.5 bp, i get a full inch, which means i gotta trim some more bodyfat. Now that wont make me 8.5 nbp, no way, probably more like 7.75 or even closer to 8. But then you have dudes like Crayzed, who are my bp size, but see, his nbp is 8 inches, which is a half inch longer than my nbp. Skinnier dudes with less bodyfat obviously get less than guys like myself who get a full inch from the bone press. Everyones penis is going to look different because of the fatpad, esp when some are as big as others bone pressed with more fat down there.
 
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