What is the fastest way to gain?

[KDAL]

I've been Penis Enlargement'ing for about a month now. I got started with the FastSize [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] which has been great. Their forum pulled me in and got me hooked on Penis Enlargement. Eventually, I found my way over to the best Penis Enlargement forum, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words], and bought the paid membership and was introduced into the world of manual Penis Enlargement. So, my question is, what is the fastest way to gain? I have been told that wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 6-8 hours a day will result in faster gains than 1-2 hours of manual stretching. Now of course it varies greatly from person to person and there is not one definite answer, but if I were to decide right now where to focus my limited time for the next few months, would you recommend wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and incorporating manual stretches after a few months or focusing on manual stretching and using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] after a few months.

*EDIT* Eventually I will be doing both so that is not the question

Thanks in advance.

KDAL

 

[baseballer8]

PILLS PILLS PILLS


Naw just kidding.

The beginners routine here is tried and true. Most people come on here and can put on size quick with that routine, so I suggest you give it a try. I would put the manual work over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] any day of the week.

 

[remiii]

extender's are a scam SO are pills ..... hang and jelq . OR manual stretch and jelq

 

[CrazyEight]

You already have an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] so use that and also do manual stretches as well. Have you made any gains with your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] so far bro? How long have you been wearing it anyway?

 

[KDAL]

You already have an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] so use that and also do manual stretches as well. Have you made any gains with your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] so far bro? How long have you been wearing it anyway?

Been wearing it about 120 hours and noticed some flaccid gains but nothing really in terms of EL.

 

[KDAL]

extender's are a scam SO are pills ..... hang and jelq . OR manual stretch and jelq

Haha [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] aren't a scam. They actually have the most scientific evidence to back them up (even though I know hanging and manual exercises are very effective). I'll never hang (and I'll never pump). I know the little guy can handle quite a bit of trauma but those are two I won't touch.

From being active on multiple forums, average growth rates for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are between 1200 and 1400 hours per inch. Wearing the device 6 hours a day (as I am now) would take me between 200 and 230 days (7-8 months) to gain an inch. Do people generally gain faster than this doing blasters and/or other manual exercises?

 

[WBB]

yeah, some people do, DLD gained like 2 inches in 6 months but he was a fast gainer, you could be a slow/average one... if you haven't gained easily so far using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] I would say try manual stretches and supplement with that [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], more time for manual less for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

oh and of course don't forget to jelq, it's REALLY important! adds girth and surprisingly length, EL for your matter and it also gives ya steel erections!

 

[CrazyEight]

The thing about manual stretches is that you can exert SO MUCH MORE force than compared to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. That's why people have gained quickly. So I recommend doing both. Don't see any harm in that. Except time maybe..

 

[KDAL]

The thing about manual stretches is that you can exert SO MUCH MORE force than compared to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. That's why people have gained quickly. So I recommend doing both. Don't see any harm in that. Except time maybe..

Right but that's one thing I've never been sure of. For cell growth, which is more important. Force of the stretch or time of stretch. With the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], is it better to wear it for less hours at a really hard stretch or more hours at a less intense stretch?

 

[CrazyEight]

You know what, of all the people I've heard that have made GREAT gains use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for loooooooong periods of time. One guy on another forum wore it for 12 HOURS per day and gained 2 inches in 6 months. He even has pictures posted and says that he doesn't even do manual stretches. Although several people have documented getting the same results with manual stretches alone. BTW, the guy wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] posted that it was very intense. So keep that mind. I haven't heard of anyone wearing it at a SUPenis EnlargementR intense stretch for less time. Maybe you could be the first one to try that out. From everything I understand so far though, your best bet is to wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for as long as possible and with as much force that you can withstand.. without passing out of course.

 

[remiii]

Haha [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] aren't a scam. They actually have the most scientific evidence to back them up (even though I know hanging and manual exercises are very effective). I'll never hang (and I'll never pump). I know the little guy can handle quite a bit of trauma but those are two I won't touch.

From being active on multiple forums, average growth rates for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are between 1200 and 1400 hours per inch. Wearing the device 6 hours a day (as I am now) would take me between 200 and 230 days (7-8 months) to gain an inch. Do people generally gain faster than this doing blasters and/or other manual exercises?

listen , do you beleive everthing you read on pe forums? dont be so stupid .... just because people say they gained does not mean shit . even pictures can be chopped

there are guys like btc that hung heavy weights off his dick and barely gained any thing? did you know that . [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are 100 percent waste of time , in time you will see that for your self

 

[KDAL]

listen , do you beleive everthing you read on pe forums? dont be so stupid .... just because people say they gained does not mean shit . even pictures can be chopped

there are guys like btc that hung heavy weights off his dick and barely gained any thing? did you know that . [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are 100 percent waste of time , in time you will see that for your self

You're telling me not to be stupid? You have no idea what you're talking about. Human beings have been using [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] devices to enlarge parts of their bodies for centuries. Also, medical studies have shown [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] to be effective for adding length. Go get some common sense and do some research before you start talking out of your ass.

 

[ithiel]

Beef.

 

[6inches]

Haha [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] aren't a scam. They actually have the most scientific evidence to back them up (even though I know hanging and manual exercises are very effective). I'll never hang (and I'll never pump). I know the little guy can handle quite a bit of trauma but those are two I won't touch.

From being active on multiple forums, average growth rates for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are between 1200 and 1400 hours per inch. Wearing the device 6 hours a day (as I am now) would take me between 200 and 230 days (7-8 months) to gain an inch. Do people generally gain faster than this doing blasters and/or other manual exercises?

1st of all the scientific evedence comes from people that have had penile implants. They use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to stop the skin from turtleing as it heals from the cuts. Thats it thats all they were made for. Then some guy thought it would be a good idea to sell the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] by it self. I've had the fuckin Andropenis for over eight months, 5-6 hours a day. And all i have is improved erections. Ok people, an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is a healing device and nothing more. Trust me DO NOT BUY ONE. USELESS

 

[dyablo]

1st of all the scientific evedence comes from people that have had penile implants. They use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to stop the skin from turtleing as it heals from the cuts. Thats it thats all they were made for. Then some guy thought it would be a good idea to sell the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] by it self. I've had the fuckin Andropenis for over eight months, 5-6 hours a day. And all i have is improved erections. Ok people, an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is a healing device and nothing more. Trust me DO NOT BUY ONE. USELESS

But whats your opinion towards manual Penis Enlargement?

 

[dyablo]

listen , do you beleive everthing you read on pe forums? dont be so stupid .... just because people say they gained does not mean shit . even pictures can be chopped

there are guys like btc that hung heavy weights off his dick and barely gained any thing? did you know that . [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are 100 percent waste of time , in time you will see that for your self

On what do you base your opinion? Have you ever tried Penis Enlargement? For how long? What routine did you use?
I dont think it is wise to give your opinion if you havent tried it yourself.
Penis Enlargement forums are FREE, and you can argue that in this forum you might be encouraged to buy the membership program, but MANY of the exercises can be found for free. I dont think how such a scam would be done with that many members and specially without gaining any money.

 

[painekillah]

dyablo, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are scams. Hanging, manual stretches, and jelqs are legit. KDAL, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are healing devices dont be so damn stupid.

 

[christiantwbath]

painekillah they aint scams they do work it just takes a very long time the body will adapt to the stresses you put it under of course the manual stretches exert more stress as does hanging but dont call it a scam as youve never had any gains or not put enough time into it, i wouldnt recomend them as they are uncomfortable they cut off the circulation and are fucking boring to wear, for 6-8 hours i bet no-one has worn it that long but, they do work

 

[KDAL]

painekillah they aint scams they do work it just takes a very long time the body will adapt to the stresses you put it under of course the manual stretches exert more stress as does hanging but dont call it a scam as youve never had any gains or not put enough time into it, i wouldnt recomend them as they are uncomfortable they cut off the circulation and are fucking boring to wear, for 6-8 hours i bet no-one has worn it that long but, they do work

[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extenders[/words] aren't usually comfortable but with a little work in wrapping and a few mods they can be worn pretty comfortably. I am in college so I can wear it during class and during studying and I can almost always get 4-6 hours and sometimes even 8 hours.

I think the best routine is to mix them. I am already noticing the effects of manual stretching and I think having the penis heal in an extended state and keeping it under stress for long periods of time will help expedite gains. I've concluded that every method has it's positives and negatives and the best routine is to mix a couple different things to get all the positives you can.

 

[Pandora]

You know the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are more dangerous than hanging or manual, the only serious injury I had with veins came from an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

But I would say the vacuum ones are much safer, but how much I don't know.

 

[ManixImpressive]

listen , do you beleive everthing you read on pe forums? dont be so stupid .... just because people say they gained does not mean shit . even pictures can be chopped

there are guys like btc that hung heavy weights off his dick and barely gained any thing? did you know that . [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are 100 percent waste of time , in time you will see that for your self

I've noticed that in the short period you've been here remiii, the majority of what you post is negative.
Stop being so negative. What's worse is you tend to do it in a condescending way. What's the deal?

 

[ManixImpressive]

EDIT: the majority of you seem to be missing a large percentage of common sense. I'm a young man & started Penis Enlargement as an adolescent, and although am not as in-depth conceptually to the ins & outs of Penis Enlargement I have a lot of time invested in what hurts & works - and doesn't.

Many of you stating [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] don't work are not thinking logically, either you are using them incorrectly (yes you can) or are merely downplaying effects.
One earlier poster stated they are medical devices used to maintain the gains of surgery - break it down - through medical surgery you receive more length/gain & the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are used to ensure the tissue heals in this extended phase, hence a healed scab effect.

Now if manual stretching & whatnot is deemed effective & in its basic form performs the same feat - allowing stretch of penile tissues to the point of expansion wouldn't keeping this tissue elongated during the healing process be as beneficial in the manual field as it is in the surgical?

We're talking basic human biology here. In the same way that tribes use rings to extend the lengths of their necks (FYI the conditioning being met here is not that far off from that of Penis Enlargement) the same should indefinitely be achievable for the penis. It is not a feat of magnitude merely of adaptation in the same way your body no longer requires your appendix, your body can be processed to adhere to new conditioning.

 

[KDAL]

You know the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are more dangerous than hanging or manual, the only serious injury I had with veins came from an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

But I would say the vacuum ones are much safer, but how much I don't know.

What sort of injury? I am very careful with mine and while I would agree manual is definitely safer, I have a hard time believing hanging is safer (but I would love to hear why ). I have been thinking about the reduced circulation to the glans from the noose on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I just keep hearing that as long as your glans doesn't turn white, you're safe (meaning a cold, purple head is normal). This might be true but it does seem somewhat dangerous to me.

 

[painekillah]

hey kdal screw you hanging is safer

 

[Pandora]

What sort of injury? I am very careful with mine and while I would agree manual is definitely safer, I have a hard time believing hanging is safer (but I would love to hear why ). I have been thinking about the reduced circulation to the glans from the noose on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I just keep hearing that as long as your glans doesn't turn white, you're safe (meaning a cold, purple head is normal). This might be true but it does seem somewhat dangerous to me.

Funny thing is my damaged vein never cam from the noose ones, it actually came from the Auto [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] clamp shell one. Hanging is safer because you don't hang no longer than 20 minutes. Practically with everything after 17 minutes cell death can occur.

But then I guess this can go both ways because maybe some people just don't what to use as much stress as a hanger can provide.

 

[remiii]

smokey let these fuckers know whats up . ive used the vimax for a long time and never gained JACK ...... ive gained from dld's stretches and from hanging and jelqing

next is a trip to toronto for the penis medicine

 

[painekillah]

I agree with remiii these assholes are dumb

 

[remiii]

I agree with remiii these assholes are dumb

problem is people follow and not lead

 

[dyablo]

Well I dont really give a fuck about [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words], Im happy pulling with my hands.

 

[KDAL]

hey kdal screw you hanging is safer

Hey paine, why are you so emotionally invested in this? Stop acting like a little girl. We're having a fucking discussion here...chill out and at least act like you're not 13.

 

[KDAL]

smokey let these fuckers know whats up . ive used the vimax for a long time and never gained JACK ...... ive gained from dld's stretches and from hanging and jelqing

next is a trip to toronto for the penis medicine

Haha, possibly the worst proof ever. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] didn't work for you, and you are God, so therefore they won't work for anyone else. You do realize there are other people that try all the different kinds of Penis Enlargement and only gain from specific ones? And jesus, learn some fucking grammar/punctuation. Just because you can hit the space bar and period key as many times as you want at random ass intervals doesn't mean you should.

Remiii and paine, can you guys jerk each other off in a separate thread so that the rest of the intelligent people here can have a discussion?

 

[longstretch]

Whoa!!! Everybody just chill the fuck out. I was reading this thread the other day and when I come back its like I'm right back at thunders except without Thunders uptight ass correcting everybody's grammar and reminding them of the forum rules.

I've never used [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] but I've read a lot of complaints in forums where people have used them extensively and never gained. I think they could work, especially as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] but since my dick is used to manual work and hanging now I don't think they could put enough stress on it. I actually have a Auto-Extender 2 from Monkeybar but I haven't been in an experimenting type of mood and I'm not sure how long in public I could wear it.

I remember when I said I would never hang or pump. But then I found out about vacuum hangers, which I support 100%. Now I read a book or watch a movie while I stretch my dick without a constricted glans, and as long as you go about it the right way you shouldn't get a water blister. Also I remember not wanting to have an overpumped dick that was not really hard but not really soft at the same time. However you can pump for only 5-15 minutes at a low Hg like 3-5 without any damage to your member. If your not wanting to try these because of fear I understand but if you do your research and go about it slow and smart you should do good.

But if your gaining with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] keep going man. Do what works for you because every individual is different. The thread is "The Fastest Way To Gain Length" and for me that has been stretching through either manual or hanging...Hanging being slightly faster because I control the intensity and am able to do it for longer periods of time.

 

[KDAL]

Thanks for the input longstretch. Yeah, I'm not a negative person but for some reason, two guys felt like they needed to crap all over this thread.

Maybe I will eventually hang or pump but right now I want to avoid them. I have read about people not gaining with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] too but I believe in them and the science behind them and if it doesn't work for me, well I have quite a few other options. Having an over pumped dick isn't my concern, it's really the long term effect on the penis (which I haven't really researched too much). Hangers and pumps seem to be the more extreme Penis Enlargement methods so I don't want to jump into them right away.

 

[longstretch]

Thanks for the input longstretch. Yeah, I'm not a negative person but for some reason, two guys felt like they needed to crap all over this thread.

Maybe I will eventually hang or pump but right now I want to avoid them. I have read about people not gaining with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] too but I believe in them and the science behind them and if it doesn't work for me, well I have quite a few other options. Having an over pumped dick isn't my concern, it's really the long term effect on the penis (which I haven't really researched too much). Hangers and pumps seem to be the more extreme Penis Enlargement methods so I don't want to jump into them right away.

I totally understand you not wanting to jump in. I didn't start hanging and pumping until a couple of years into Penis Enlargement. I was no longer able to gain from manual without putting in way too much time, and like I said hanging is kinda of hands free and I'm in college so thats what attracted me to it. I really recommend you try manual Penis Enlargement and use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] when your not stretching or jelqing. Especially jelq if you can't stretch because it boasts numerous benefits.

 

[KDAL]

I totally understand you not wanting to jump in. I didn't start hanging and pumping until a couple of years into Penis Enlargement. I was no longer able to gain from manual without putting in way too much time, and like I said hanging is kinda of hands free and I'm in college so thats what attracted me to it. I really recommend you try manual Penis Enlargement and use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] when your not stretching or jelqing. Especially jelq if you can't stretch because it boasts numerous benefits.

I do both. I'm following DLD's routines and wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] when I'm not stretching. What year of college are you? I just started my fresHydromaxan year and I'm trying to figure out how I can Penis Enlargement effectively while in college.

 

[painekillah]

shut the fuck up and hang you cunt

 

[longstretch]

I'm a sophomore now. I didn't Penis Enlargement last semester b/c I moved out and had no privacy and the semester before I only Penis Enlargemented a couple of times because I was experimenting with the IPR theory so really this is my first semester doing real hardcore Penis Enlargement and I'm about to start a job at UPS and my hours are 3:30 a.m. to 8:30 a.m. So in essence I'm learning a little as well.

 

[KDAL]

clamping and dld blasters are best, 50 dld blasters.

Been doing some blasters but they're kinda hard unless you have pretty good flacid hang. I'll keep doing em though. I hear so many ED problems with clamping though.

 

[painekillah]

L O L workin at ups sucks I fuckin walked out after 3 hours I know a lot who walked out after 30 minutes if you want ups as a career your entire life and wanna pack boxes for many years, then drive a truck thats good for you but if you are just lookin for quick money you can find somethin much better I suggest not going it sucks really bad and you can find a job who pays better and is easier and if you do decide to quit without puttin in a 2 week notice they pull some bullshit about gettin hired at some other place but it didnt work on my I had a job after that and im in college now I didnt wanna work at ups my entire life if you do thats cool I understand let me know how it goes alright longstretch

 

[painekillah]

oh and you don't get out at 8:30 they will keep you until 10 or 11 and it takes about 5 years before you get to drive the trucks, if you last that long then you should work their your entire life and you wont need school

 

[longstretch]

Well I was gonna load packages into the brown trucks for 9.50 but now all I do is scan packages for 8.50. But in like 3 months I get a pay increase and if they ever need somebody to unload trucks their pay me 9.50 while I do that. She said that most of the time the people who unload the semi-trucks get out around 8 while the people who load the package cars usually get out at 9. The package trucks have to go by 9 so I'm pretty sure this UPS is different than the one you went to. And no I don't want to make a career out of it though I know people who did and they love it, you know UPS has great benefits.

But HA! NO I'm not making a career out of it. I'm just working there till I get my second personal training certification and able to get a job at a gym or club.

 

[painekillah]

you can easily find a better job and then leave UPS they bullshit a lot

 

[Big Al]

...... ive gained from dld's stretches and from hanging and jelqing

I was reading through some old threads and I came across this. There were several posts made by you on this forum stating your beliefs against Penis Enlargement.

Not coincidentally, you "gained" by doing standard manual stretches but not from extreme hanging and clamping. This is further evidence that trying to take shortcuts often does a lot more harm than good. In the future, please refrain from putting all Penis Enlargement methods under one category.