This is how much skin you lose to circumcision!

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kong1971

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I have attached two pics to show you all how much skin is actually removed during circumcision! They are kind of gruesome, for which I apologize, but I just wanted to show you all proof that circumcision does make your penis smaller. This is the circumcision of an adult male. I guess he thought it would make his penis look nicer! Not sure. But imagine the loss of blood flow and all the scarring that this causes to our most private part! This is the reason I have turkey neck and hairy shaft, and why I had a 5 1/2" penis until I started doing foreskin restoration and Penis Enlargement!!!

Expecting fathers: please don't do this to your kids!

Uncut men: please don't do this to yourselves!

Just imagine...in some muslim nations, this is done to boys at the age of 13 without painkillers!
 
Thats groest! Actually i would like to be cut, when doing Penis Enlargement. Because the skin can be a bother. But i guess i just have to bite the grin and go on.
Lazy Ass Stretches... that is very hard to do.
 
damn personally glad i aint had it done

my m8s just had his done only because his foreskin was too tight and was causing grief during sex
 
Cool, that first pic kinda looks like a red bat in flight or something ;)

I have a turkey neck from jelqing/hanging.
 
You guys are sicksicksick! :D Just don't get anything on your keyboard, Hotdog!
SWM, I have always had a turkey neck, even before Penis Enlargementing. I think they really skinned me alive. I'm probably lucky I even had a penis left when they were done with me. You can imagine how much I must have been cut when you consider that Penis Enlargement and FR has given me an almost instant 2"!!!
 
andyuk said:
damn personally glad i aint had it done

my m8s just had his done only because his foreskin was too tight and was causing grief during sex
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There is a steroid cream that alleviates phimosis. Didn't the docs tell your mate that?
 
Oh, and before any flames me, by instant, I am speaking relatively. I basically did 6 months of pumping and then another six months of Penis Enlargement and foreskin restoration to get that 2".
 
Don't get me wrong. I love my penis, too! I'm not trying to say there's anything wrong with yours. I am just trying to get the message out that those fellows who are unhappy with being circumcised can change their situation. Like Penis Enlargement, alot of people don't know or don't believe that circumcision can be reversed. I have always thought of Penis Enlargement as standing for "Penis Enhancement", because there is so much more to it than just enlarging it! Penis Enlargement gives you more confidence, more self-respect...and if you want more pleasure or more comfort, why not add FR to your routines? If you are completely happy with your penis, more power to you. If not, maybe FR is what you are looking for. I am trying not to be so fanatical about it, fellas. I really am. But it is such a BIG thing that it is hard not to want everyone to benefit from it, too. If this Penis Enlargement option makes you feel anger or defensive, maybe you should delve into your own feelings a little deeper and see what is actually down in there, because I am only presenting an option. Do you want more pleasure? Do you want a healthier penis? Do you want to gain quicker? Try Foreskin Restoration. Happy the way you are? Just ignore me. I'm just a little leery of the guys who feel compelled to say there's nothing wrong with them, cause that makes me think that maybe, in the back of their head, they may think there is. For example, BeBox has stated that he is curious about it, but doesn't feel compelled to do it right now. That's cool. He was not hostile about it at all. Sometimes he reads my posts and sometimes he don't. Godsize, on the other hand, kind of ran a rant on me one time... which makes me wonder if he is really so happy about it. Who knows, tho. I don't. Just have an open mind. When SWM or Red post about hanging or clamps, nobody replies with "I DON'T hang weight, and I'm lovin' it!" Why do some of you feel the need to do that to me...?
 
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I am circumsised (it was done when i was born), and I started with 7x5.5, so if I was uncut my starting size would have been bigger?
 
It all depends on how tightly you were cut. Do you have any of the following problems: tight shaft skin, curved penis, turkey neck, or hairy shaft? If so, you were probably cut too tightly and would have been about 20% bigger if the docs had just left you a little more skin to grow into. If your skin is loose enough to pull over the glans a little while erect, then you were probably not cut tight enough to restrict your gains during puberty.
 
Man, I am not for or against FR, I happen to have been cut at birth and I might at some point try and grow some back...However I don't think that you should be telling people that these doctors cost us 20% of our dick by cutting the skin too tightly. Skin in the most stretchable organ we have and I really think some people blow this whole thing out of proportion.

The US is one of the few countries where almost everyone is circumsized, and if circumcision was really as bad as you say it is, we'd have smaller dicks than everyone else in the world. I have read studies about dick size and many actually put the US average overtop of the combined world average. So where exactly did you get this 20% figure from?

I am not knocking your opinions and am not hostile, so please respond in a tactful manner. As far as I'm concerned this is merely a discussion among people who don't all share the same beliefs.
 
I don't think it is just loss of skin that causes the restriction of potential size, but also the scarring that circumcision causes. As we all know, scar tissue does not stretch very easily. As far as skin being stretchy, as I have said a hundred times already, grab the skin on the back of your hand and stretch it as far as possible. You will get about 1/4" of give. That's not alot, considering that circumcision removes half the skin of the penis, which amounts to about 5" of linear flesh unfolded (or about 20 square inches). Even if you were to count that skin as folded over in its natural position, 2.5" of skin from c-scar to glans, minus the 1/4" of stretch, leaves a man short 1.75" of skin. 1.75" is actually 20% of the average penis length. This is what is being held inside the abdomenal cavity by a tight circumcision. Oddly enough, from doing FR and a light [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words], I have lengthened my penis about that same amount in a very short time before my gains began to slow down. I am still gaining, but not as fast as I was before. Now I am at the size I feel that I would have been if I had not been cut. My penis is also not as curved or hairy as it was. FR is not the end all be all, but it can help you add some needed skin if you are tightly cut and maybe make some quick initial gains.
 
In a study investigating the adequacy of condom sizes, Richters, Gerofi,
and Donovan noted that circumcised men had significantly shorter erect
penises by a mean length of 8mm than genitally intact men (p<.05). The
difference in erect penile size was attributed to insufficient skin to
accomodate the erection.

Richters J, Gerofi J,Donovan B. Are condoms the right size(s)? A method
for self-measurement of the erect penis. Venereology 1995;8:77-81
 
Well, I guess that there aren't a lot of surgery photos that are attractive to look at. :)

Why would your penis get bigger from getting your foreskin back?
Topical creams don't help everyone (me included) and I've never talked to a guy who were cut as an adult who regrets having it done.

Then again I understand that there's a big difference (both mental and physical) between people that have been cut as infants and people who have done it when adult.
 
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I did not intend the pictures to be gross out shots. There is a misconception here in the United States that the foreskin is "just a little flap of skin". I just wanted the fellows here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] to understand how much skin is actually lost to circumcision.

More skin = more dick. I think that's pretty simple.

In the cases of men who were circumcised too tightly as children, scarring and inadequate skin causes some of the length of the penis to be held inside the abdomenal cavity. Foreskin restoration techniques not only stretch out the c-scar a little, but it gives the penis a little more room to hang out in. As has been stated on this website before, "the penis is a bag, not a rope."

I'm sorry the topical creams did not help you, but I would warrant that most of the men who were circumcised as adults did so because of medical reasons. Of course they would not regret having some defect corrected or removed.

I do not have a problem with adults who choose to have a circumcision. It is, after all, a personal choice. I do have a problem with the misconceptions that are perpetuated here in the United States by the medical establisHydromaxent to keep this profitable industry rolling. Men should have a full understanding what they are giving up. They often do not. And when a child is circumcised, there is no choice at all involved-- which, in my opinion, is criminal.

If you have a circumcision fetish and want to chop yourself up, have at it. In Sweden, the circumcision rate is less than 10%, I believe, so being circumcised would make you noteworthy and unique among your population. If you truly enjoy being circumcised, I am glad for you and hope you do not develop any of the common problems of being circumcised: scarring, keratinization of the glans, erectile dysfunction from improper blood flow, etc.

But a circumcised penis is not natural and healthier, which is the perpetuated myth here in the US. It is a penis that has been cut up for cosmetic reasons.
 
I'm circumcised and would rather not be. I figure I'm missing something around 20-30 square inches of penis skin due to being butchered as a baby.

I am doing foreskin restoration, and my son is NOT circumcised.
 
AWESOME! Thanks for replying. I think the only people who reply to my posts are the cut guys who are in denial and want to argue.
 
Tbh i don't know if not being circumsized is really that great, i mean it's awkward having sex when your skin keeps folding over the head.
And a lot of peeps say cut dicks look better, and are supposed to be cleaner.
 
:D Awkward...? Dude, it's a pussy. You stick your dick in it and then go back and forth for about fifteen minutes. You're not trying to defuse a bomb or open a safe...! :D

I think uncut dicks look better. There is a myth that uncut cocks are not as clean as cut cocks, but it is just that...a myth. My opinion on that myth is that there is such a thing as wash cloths and indoor running water. There are no nasty uncut cocks...just nasty men who don't wash their dicks...just like there are clean pussies and smelly pussies.

What did we learn today, kids?

WASH YOUR DAMN DICKS SO THEY DON'T STANK!
 
dude, that pic is like doing too much! i got circumsized when i was a very young boy around 5 or so.. and they didnt cut that much skin off!! oh my god, it seems like they took the whole skin off.. yuck.. well, many guys who are adults still get circumcised... to me, it looks better and its more refined.
 
Yes, that is an adult male being circumcised. At least, with an adult, the doc has an idea how much he can take off. With a baby, it is just a guessing game. Will the child be big when he matures, average, small? How much skin will he need to fully accomodate his penis at puberty? The guessing game is the reason some men are fine and some, like myself, had problems with their circumcision. I was left with enough skin to accomodate a 5 1/2 inch average penis at puberty. What I actually would have developed was a large 7 1/2 inch penis. That is the reason I shot from 5 1/2 to 7 1/2 so quickly when I started doing foreskin restoration and Penis Enlargement. I finally had the skin I needed to accomodate my cock. Don't believe me...? Oh, well...

Looks better? That's a personal opinion and you're welcome to it. I don't begrudge it. I think otherwise, but that is my personal opinion. More refined? Yeah, refined like all the other ritualistic mutilations that occur in societies like facial scarring and female circumcisions. 100 years from now, our society will look back on this circumcision fad and shake their heads in disbelief. They will ask themselves, "Why is the world did they cut up their private parts!?!?" We are already moving that direction now. Western states like California are already falling into the 50% on circumcisions.
 
what age did u get circumcised? personally for me, i would like to stay circumcised because ur penis is less sensitive when it comes to masturbating and sex, etc.. unlike when u have foreskin protecting ur head, ur head is still soft and when something touches it, it hurts. but with circumcision, ur head grows a new harder skin which is good. i dont know man, everyone has their own thoughts to it.. im sorry to hear about ur cock thing.. so when u restored ur skin, did it hurt more than circum?
 
I was circumcised at birth. I have no conscious traumatic memories of it.

You are correct in saying that a circumcised penis is less sensitive. If you like it that way, then I guess that's great for you. I am very sexually active and the more sensitive the better. I am and have always been a hedonistic person.

Once your glans is kept protected by the foreskin, and the callous sloughs away, it is more sensitive...but it certainly doesn't hurt to be touched! That is a misconception. The difference is more like wearing gloves. A penis with a calloused glans is like your hands with gloves on them. After the glans dekeratinizes, it is like the gloves have been removed. You can feel so much more with your fingertips, but it does not hurt to simply touch things. You just experience the sensations more finely.

I am nowhere near finished restoring. I have been doing it for five months now and have only succeeded in releasing about two inches of cock that was being held inside by the scarring and lack of skin. My penis still looks totally circumcised, it is just bigger and fatter and has lost some of its curve. I get a little bit of spontaneous coverage now and then when flaccid, but erect, the skin is still somewhat tight and I figure I will get some more quick gains until I get to the size that I should have always been genetically.
 
The corpus spongiosum and glans are somewhat the same structure. The corpus spongiosum is the ridge that runs up the bottom side of the penis to the head and feeds blood to the glans. By constricting and milking this part of the penis, you can make the head swell up larger than normal. If you do it enough, you can make it get permanently bigger. The head of my penis was always somewhat big, but I have developed it further through Penis Enlargement.
 
Kong, you're doing a great job at educating everyone here and I applaud you for that. I'm also doing FR but it's going painfully slow. I don't like taping and I procrastinate too much! :( You're comments are very valid and there will always be idiots here that just don't get it and keep saying a cut dick looks better. Once people discover what you have discovered, they'd probably forget all about Penis Enlargement and start doing FR.
 
Um...is it because we're idiots or because we just have no problem with being cut? I've always been cut, and I don't have any problems because of it. I don't feel like my size is compromised because of it, and if it was, who cares? I've got Penis Enlargement. I prefer the look of a cut penis and so does my fiance (although she still hasn't seen mine). It's all down to Penis EnlargementRSONAL preference. If you guys want your foreskins back, that's great. I hope you get them and I hope you love them. As for me, I don't want mine back. It isn't because I'm an idiot. It's because I personally don't want to invest that time and effort into something I'm indifferent about.
 
I'm curious about something, cyclops. I'm not being testy either, just wondering. When you were circumcised, were you left with your frenelum? The frenelum is the sensitive structure descending from the bottom side of the glans which keeps the foreskin covering the head. It has been likened to the female clitoris, because of its sensitivity. It is usually removed, which robs men of alot of sensation. I have kind of been noticing that the men who are uninterested in FR are either 1) hung like horses and/or 2) still possessed of their fren or most of it.

Also, sorry about the idiot thing. Alot of restorers get a little over-enthusiastic about it. There is a good reason for it-- we have bigger, more sensitive dicks! :) I am guilty of it myself. We are not trying to start a fight. We just want to share this wonderful thing with everyone else, and it is kind of frustrating when other guys just don't get it or want it.
 
Aha! That makes sense to me. I never thought of that. Yes, I still have my frenelum.

The idiot thing is ok. I didn't take it personally I was just trying to get him to see both sides of the coin.

And good luck to both of you with your FR. Keep us updated.
 
I think that's what it is! The frenelum is highly sensitive to sexual stimulation. Most men who are tightly circumcised have lost that structure, and thus have to rely on the glans for most of their sensation. When it becomes calloused over time, there goes their sensitivity. All that's left is brute force and dirty thoughts. Then, after restoring for a while, when that callous sheds and they finally begin to feel REAL pleasure, it just totally blows their mind. It's so sad I almost cry. I hope you appreciate what you, by a stroke of luck, were left with...and next time you hear one of us gushing about having a strong orgasm and preaching FR, just give us some support. We lost something very vital.

I personally have a small amount of frenelum left. It is all chopped up and scarred, but I do have some sensation there...about enough to know what I am missing. I am hoping and praying that FR with expand this tissue and restore it a little more as well.
 
kong1971 you are doing a great job buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!
more power to you.
circ or not it is a criminal offence to circ a child under 18 without their consent / unless absolutley medically neccesary.
SIMPLE AS.
and circ rate is declining everywhere, intrnational figures frm the WHO (world healh organisation) have circ as 20% or there abouts of the world population..so 8 out of 10 guys are intact in the world, im not goping o get too deep into this but believe me i could. if your circ and happy ood for you, but theres no ecuse for doing it to a child unless medically unavoidable.
personally im a natural 7x5.75, and i love my foreskin, my glans is shiny and smooth and goddamn it feels sooo good. im very good at edging and ejaculate only when i want to.
the forskin just about covrs it erect and it feels great, if id have been cut i would find and revenge the person/s involved.
on a side note i hve had my nuts altered through surgry for medical resons and they cause me pain often cos of it (testicular fixtion to stop twisting) and knowing that they are "altered" makes me deeply upset and the pain makes it wore feeling...i guess you could compare it to being cut in some ways like th faxt im diffeent and it hurts etc and i can totally understand the psychology behind it..itspinful to accept and think about so i just prefer to try to ignore it.
i know everyones different but children should be protected, my dad was cut at 5 by a guy who had noting to do with him..the psychological trauma literally destroyed him and turned him crazy, so i grew up wihout him. he evn denied he was cut when my mum said he was. he got very angry etc.
so anyways, my foreskin is clean, always has been and i dont get any smegma and i dont smel, never had a foreskin infection or any of that bullshit the circ industry says foreskin causs, its also very good to pull the skin back and let the frenulum get a little taught and just holdit, man there like 101 things you can do, you cn even just pul and hold the skin back and just rub the head like cut guys if you want.
also remember that circ was and still is covered by general insurance in the usa so thats an extra 1-200$ for each circ they do, its like commission..if yu are aware of the situation you will see where circ is now requird to be paid for privately the rate has actually droppe significantly..a good step in the right direction.
if your cut and love it then more power to you and i wish you well, but i hope YOU chose to be, because if it ws imposed upon you then youve been robbed :(
anyway, just wanted to post a reply kong1971 ;)
take care all of you cut or natural :)
 
sorry for any offense.... your arguments sound something like this:

a guy who likes his new house doesn't know what it's like to have a nicer house until he gets one.... that's where all the cut guys fail. I have my frenulum intact and im not huge either and i still praise FR
 
It's ok man. I'm really glad you've found FR. I've seen the new houses, and I've thought about buying one, but for me, right now, it isn't worth the extra time I'd have to devote. Maybe some day. Probably not though. I've lived in this house my whole life. :D
 
There is a medical term for it, but I don't remember it. It is where the skin of your scrotum is attached too high up the shaft of your penis and kind of dangles there from it...looking kind of like a turkey wattle. It happens from being too tightly circumcised and also from some types of Penis Enlargement exercises if you are not careful.
 
Well all I can say is Im glad I am cut. My frenulum is still intact, I get plenty of pleasure, and I am almost 8" ;)

Only thing I wish I had was a larger head, which I am working on through Penis Enlargement. FR is cool and all, just not for me. The cultural aesthetic value is the biggest thing holding me back. Personally I dont like the look either.
 
sephin, I knew there had to be something more to this. I started looking at some of the guys who opposed or were indifferent to FR and began to notice a trend. They were bigger than average, they appeared to have plenty of slack skin already, and they also seemed to have an intact frenelum. You've been a good buddy to me and I respect your opinion. I think I have a diagram here in this thread on the relation of the CS and glans and how to make your head bigger. I hope it helps. I personally am going to research this and see if an intact frenelum is the main difference between the guys who support FR and do it and the guys who don't. Look for a poll soon as well as an educational article about the frenelum and what it does.
 
Wow! I decided to get circumsized 3 years ago. I didnt relize what it looked like when they cut you. I do have to say that Im happy with the outcome. Sex is better. Its eaiser to keep clean. And Im not cut tight. I see what you mean though about not having enough loose skin when Penis Enlargementing. That would be eaiser if I was uncut I belive.
 
Bump for swank and skepdick

another thread where I didn't promise those miraculous size gains... :)

I think everything presented here is pretty level and even tentative, with me saying things like "I think" and "could be".

You guys are so Out There its scary. There's plenty of open friendly discussion, and both sides of the debate are presented. Of course, no swank here...!

If you persist in spreading lies about what I have claimed, I will go to the admin about it. It is nothing short of attempted character assassination!
 
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