no gains :(

[itsme777]

I posted this in another thread by the same title:
Maybe you are just taking too much on at once. You may be like me and need exclusive focus on what you are doing. If you are going for length only that greatly simplifies the task. I would stick exclusively with this workout for now and we can change it as you gain, create a good foundation and feel ready to take on more.

Here is the Routine that I think will serve best for now.

5 minutes Bundled Stretching

Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below

Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

5 minutes of erect stretching. 5 reps of 1 minute each.

got one for girth because i am 8.5 inches of length on a good day but my girth is laughable i hate it!!

 

[ChilDsh]

got one for girth because i am 8.5 inches of length on a good day but my girth is laughable i hate it!!

Ok,so you want to gain girth yes?Create a progress thread in the progress section of the forum,and post daily,so we can see what you doing wrong .

I think your girth routine is too much,that's why you don't gain.

12 min heat warm, up
20 min basic and bundle stretches
10 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 40[/words] sec [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]
10 min pump
10 min clamp
10 min pump
10 min clamp
masterbate

That's 20 min pump and 20 min clamp + manual exercises..sometimes going overboard will not work.This it what i suggest you to do:

Warm up - 5 min
Bundles stretches - 5-10 min
5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/Jelqing
5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/Jelqing
5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/Jelqing
Warm down - 5 min
All girth exercises should be done at 100 % erection level
Apply cock ring for as much as possible,if the expansion fades away,remove the cock ring and do a short 5-10 min jelqing or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSj[/words] set.

Remove clamping from your workout,clamping is dangerous,and you don't need clamping when you have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] imo,much safer.

Do you still want length?because 8.5" in length is pretty damn long.If you still want to train length,add the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] stretches for you length workout.But make sure it's a different session,don't combine length and girth workout in a chaotic way.Do length in the morning ( newbie stretches ) and girth in the evening ( the routine i posted above ) or viceversa.

I have never warm down either how do you do it childish? If its by just applying heat then I do that t every now, and again not always. Mike says testicle health massage is great as warm down too

I either warm down in the shower or use a hot towel,

 

[templnite]

I think going beyond reason sometimes does give me a little jolt the next day. Those micro tears

 

[itsme777]

Ok,so you want to gain girth yes?Create a progress thread in the progress section of the forum,and post daily,so we can see what you doing wrong .

I think your girth routine is too much,that's why you don't gain.



That's 20 min pump and 20 min clamp + manual exercises..sometimes going overboard will not work.This it what i suggest you to do:

Warm up - 5 min
Bundles stretches - 5-10 min
5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/Jelqing
5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/Jelqing
5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/Jelqing
Warm down - 5 min
All girth exercises should be done at 100 % erection level
Apply cock ring for as much as possible,if the expansion fades away,remove the cock ring and do a short 5-10 min jelqing or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSj[/words] set.

Remove clamping from your workout,clamping is dangerous,and you don't need clamping when you have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] imo,much safer.

Do you still want length?because 8.5" in length is pretty damn long.If you still want to train length,add the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] stretches for you length workout.But make sure it's a different session,don't combine length and girth workout in a chaotic way.Do length in the morning ( newbie stretches ) and girth in the evening ( the routine i posted above ) or viceversa.



I either warm down in the shower or use a hot towel,

thanks for the reply brother and sounds good i will be trying this program tonight

and as far as the length i would also like to gain a lil bit more as well

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I think going beyond reason sometimes does give me a little jolt the next day. Those micro tears

lol go hard or go home

 

[kyomoto]

lol go hard or go home

Yeahhh buddy. Hit them gains!

 

[itsme777]

Yeahhh buddy. Hit them gains!

p.e. is a war that i am willing to win

 

[itsme777]

hey guys so i took childish advise and decided to try this routine which is much simpler and it was pretty good had good expansion and less time consuming which is also good as well umm i will probaly increase the times of the exercises litle by little and GUYS PLEASE SHARE YOUR ROUTINES WITH ME SO I CAN GET MORE IDEAS AND I AM WILLING TO TRY ALL THE ADVICE YOU GUYS CAN GIVE ME!



5 min warm up
15 min stretch
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]
5 min pump
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]
5 min pump
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]
5 min pump
5 min edge

 

[templnite]

How much is 'good expansion' ?

 

[ChilDsh]

hey guys so i took childish advise and decided to try this routine which is much simpler and it was pretty good had good expansion and less time consuming which is also good as well umm i will probaly increase the times of the exercises litle by little and GUYS PLEASE SHARE YOUR ROUTINES WITH ME SO I CAN GET MORE IDEAS AND I AM WILLING TO TRY ALL THE ADVICE YOU GUYS CAN GIVE ME!

Keep that routine.Stop adding/removing things..that's why you probably don't gain,you modify your routine too often..keep it ,stick with it,do it everyday.Simple as that.The 5x5x3 routine is the best/safest/quickest girth routine including a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words].


5 min warm up
15 min stretch
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]
5 min pump
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]
5 min pump
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]
5 min pump
5 min edge

Stick with that routine.Don't change it,don't modify anything.If you keep changing your routine you won't gain .Be consistent with this routine and you will gain.Adding a cock ring at the end of your routine it will speed up the gains.But edging works too.Try to hit 20-30 min of edging at least.

 

[kyomoto]

Stick with that routine.Don't change it,don't modify anything.If you keep changing your routine you won't gain .Be consistent with this routine and you will gain.Adding a cock ring at the end of your routine it will speed up the gains.But edging works too.Try to hit 20-30 min of edging at least.

Changing constantly won't help you see the results with a routine not finished with a 5 month period.

 

[templnite]

lol go hard or go home

Direct, no funny stuff. Don't be afraid of the 'burn' continue expanding. Don't let the session get cold. No retreat no surrender >8-O

 

[Longth]

Direct, no funny stuff. Don't be afraid of the 'burn' continue expanding. Don't let the session get cold. No retreat no surrender >8-O

The biggest gainers have always been the ones that looked a little crazy at the time. But I guess it's only crazy if it doesn't work.

 

[DLD]

The biggest gainers have always been the ones that looked a little crazy at the time. But I guess it's only crazy if it doesn't work.

So true! When I started PE and started to create my own exercises and routines the people at T's Place completely thought I was insane. I was advocating for how important erect work was and everyone said it was far too dangerous. I am so glad I brought Erect work into the PE world and today, those same people who called me crazy are using my erect exercises. Genius always comes with a bit of Madness

 

[itsme777]

How much is 'good expansion' ?

anywhere from 1 inch to .75 expansion from starting girth

 

[itsme777]

Stick with that routine.Don't change it,don't modify anything.If you keep changing your routine you won't gain .Be consistent with this routine and you will gain.Adding a cock ring at the end of your routine it will speed up the gains.But edging works too.Try to hit 20-30 min of edging at least.

sorry i did forget to mention the cock ring i wear it all night actually

 

[itsme777]

Stick with that routine.Don't change it,don't modify anything.If you keep changing your routine you won't gain .Be consistent with this routine and you will gain.Adding a cock ring at the end of your routine it will speed up the gains.But edging works too.Try to hit 20-30 min of edging at least.

thanks for the advice bro i will be sticking to it for now

 

[templnite]

anywhere from 1 inch to .75 expansion from starting girth

But is it really squishy or nah? I'm impressed you wear the cockring to bed I don't think I'm bold enough for that. I bet you always wake up with massive expansion cause of that, and does it ever start to hurt when you have night wood?

 

[DLD]

anywhere from 1 inch to .75 expansion from starting girth

That is a huge temporary gain, this is rare when we hear about someone reaching an inch in a workout. This is a great thing for your girth and should bring gains rather quickly since you are getting so much expansion.

 

[ChilDsh]

sorry i did forget to mention the cock ring i wear it all night actually

You don't need to wear it all night.After 1-2-3 hours the girth expansion will fade away,at that point wearing a cock ring is useless.When the expansion fades away,you need to bring it back.And put the cock ring back on.A quick 5-10 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] or Jelq will bring back the expansion .The longer you keep the expansion the quicker you will gain.But if you do your girth routine before bed and then put the cock ring on and go to sleep,it's ok. 1-2 hours of keeping that expansion is 10x better than no cock ring .

 

[Longth]

You don't need to wear it all night.After 1-2-3 hours the girth expansion will fade away,at that point wearing a cock ring is useless.When the expansion fades away,you need to bring it back.And put the cock ring back on.A quick 5-10 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] or Jelq will bring back the expansion .The longer you keep the expansion the quicker you will gain.But if you do your girth routine before bed and then put the cock ring on and go to sleep,it's ok. 1-2 hours of keeping that expansion is 10x better than no cock ring .

I have to disagree. Between erections at night and, if it's tight enough, the usual expansion, a ring overnight can be as effective as anything else for keeping expansion. I wake up with a decent amount of expansion retained, and if I have the best kind of dream I get the added benefit of new expansion being forced. The ring just has to be tight enough to give a boost and loose enough to allow regular blood flow. I use an adjustable and do the whole scrotum and I've seen plenty of reason to continue.

 

[templnite]

Yeah childish REM erections are really intense, adding a ring would make for a mini clamping. Only for the balsy though

 

[ChilDsh]

I have to disagree. Between erections at night and, if it's tight enough, the usual expansion, a ring overnight can be as effective as anything else for keeping expansion. I wake up with a decent amount of expansion retained, and if I have the best kind of dream I get the added benefit of new expansion being forced. The ring just has to be tight enough to give a boost and loose enough to allow regular blood flow. I use an adjustable and do the whole scrotum and I've seen plenty of reason to continue.

You're right,but nothing compares to that 0.5"-1" expansion right after you finish your girth session.And not everybody has night woods.I never have them.Ever.

 

[templnite]

Everyone has night wood. The thing is you don't notice unless you have to get up to pee, or they carry over to morning woods

 

[Longth]

Pretty sure kegels would also promote night/morning wood. Generally speaking I think not using a ring at night is just a missed opportunity to retain expansion and possibly get a workout you don't even have to be conscious for. Sounds pretty good to me.

 

[templnite]

The thing is I already train pretty hard during the day, and I don't want to abuse my veins that I get thrombosis %O. I've never heard of someone who ringed at night, and didn't see the benefit though.

 

[DLD]

The thing is I already train pretty hard during the day, and I don't want to abuse my veins that I get thrombosis %O. I've never heard of someone who ringed at night, and didn't see the benefit though.

The only 2 things I suggest for night time is the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] or the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] anything else is too dangerous.

 

[Longth]

The only 2 things I suggest for night time is the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] or the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] anything else is too dangerous.

If you use an adjustable and a little silicone lube it will adjust itself if things get intense. Probably should have mentioned that's a part of how I get away with it every day.

 

[templnite]

That's the thing you get away with it. I cant remember how many times I blacked out from drugs/alcohol, and only by the grace of god arose unscathed. Literally I cant remember nah jk my friends remind me. The overnight ring is tempting, but I'm just too cautious to ever even try it. If I'm doing something involving my cock I need to be awake!

 

[DLD]

If you use an adjustable and a little silicone lube it will adjust itself if things get intense. Probably should have mentioned that's a part of how I get away with it every day.

I will give her a go and get back at you.

 

[itsme777]

hey guys i have decided to stop clamping at least for now
it feels like it has done more harm to my penis then good as im still 5.25 in girth also think i will be going to manual stretches as well the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] feels like it has weakend my base either that or the clamping
i feel like i might have a degree of ED which is really making me nervous

 

[templnite]

Funny you would say that as I've also been gong hard with clamps, and in the onset of overtraining which causes me a little ed. What I'm gonna do is take clamps out for one or two days continuing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], and regain my eq. It isn't the first time this happens to me so I'm not worried

 

[ChilDsh]

hey guys i have decided to stop clamping at least for now
it feels like it has done more harm to my penis then good as im still 5.25 in girth also think i will be going to manual stretches as well the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] feels like it has weakend my base either that or the clamping
i feel like i might have a degree of ED which is really making me nervous

Clamping is dangerous.I'm glad you decided to stay away from it.Do you have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]?i can't remember.You might be fatigue because your workout is too intense so that's why you lost a bit of EQ.No worries.

 

[DLD]

hey guys i have decided to stop clamping at least for now
it feels like it has done more harm to my penis then good as im still 5.25 in girth also think i will be going to manual stretches as well the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] feels like it has weakend my base either that or the clamping
i feel like i might have a degree of ED which is really making me nervous

I am glad to hear that you are not clamping any longer, I believe it to be far too risky. I think you should really stick with the basics for a week or two, just to reset your frame of mind and attack this from a different angle. If something is not working it's not working and you will need to change the practice being used. I say take it back to basics because this will help clear your mind and see a different way to approach.

As far as having ED, the exercises or tools being used will not cause this, over training will. If your EQ is low it means either you are fatigued or your pelvic floor muscles are weak and need to be strengthened. In 99% of the cases where impotence becomes an issue it is usually mental, physical impotence is extremely rare. For me, when I know it is a mental thing, I simply use Viagra and this solves the entire eq issue.

 

[itsme777]

Funny you would say that as I've also been gong hard with clamps, and in the onset of overtraining which causes me a little ed. What I'm gonna do is take clamps out for one or two days continuing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], and regain my eq. It isn't the first time this happens to me so I'm not worried

yea dude im done with it for a while man

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Clamping is dangerous.I'm glad you decided to stay away from it.Do you have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]?i can't remember.You might be fatigue because your workout is too intense so that's why you lost a bit of EQ.No worries.

yes sir i have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words]

 

[itsme777]

I am glad to hear that you are not clamping any longer, I believe it to be far too risky. I think you should really stick with the basics for a week or two, just to reset your frame of mind and attack this from a different angle. If something is not working it's not working and you will need to change the practice being used. I say take it back to basics because this will help clear your mind and see a different way to approach.

As far as having ED, the exercises or tools being used will not cause this, over training will. If your EQ is low it means either you are fatigued or your pelvic floor muscles are weak and need to be strengthened. In 99% of the cases where impotence becomes an issue it is usually mental, physical impotence is extremely rare. For me, when I know it is a mental thing, I simply use Viagra and this solves the entire eq issue.

yes sir i got to take it back to basics i will be starting [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] for now and see what happens

 

[itsme777]

im starting to think that u can gain length but girth is just impossible

 

[DLD]

yes sir i got to take it back to basics i will be starting [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] for now and see what happens

Excellent to hear. I want you to make gains so badly so I will stick with you till it happens!

 

[itsme777]

Excellent to hear. I want you to make gains so badly so I will stick with you till it happens!

thank you brother means alot this is gonna be a really tough game with a great prize at the end

 

[Longth]

im starting to think that u can gain length but girth is just impossible

I felt the exact opposite. It was driving me nuts I couldn't get to 8. Girth is the easy part for me. And length work is way more unpleasant than girth so I think I'd trade trouble spots with you.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

I felt the exact opposite. It was driving me nuts I couldn't get to 8. Girth is the easy part for me. And length work is way more unpleasant than girth so I think I'd trade trouble spots with you.

are you almost 8 inches in girth?:O damn fecking amazing

 

[itsme777]

I felt the exact opposite. It was driving me nuts I couldn't get to 8. Girth is the easy part for me. And length work is way more unpleasant than girth so I think I'd trade trouble spots with you.

yea it seem that everyone has their pros and cons...girth to me is extremely time and labor consuming and ive been at it for 2 years on n off and i have gained nothing in girth....hahaha ok ill will trade you in a heart beat

 

[DLD]

yea it seem that everyone has their pros and cons...girth to me is extremely time and labor consuming and ive been at it for 2 years on n off and i have gained nothing in girth....hahaha ok ill will trade you in a heart beat

Sometimes, for certain men, it becomes easier to do length or girth exclusively until gains are made. If you think that focus would be better to stick with one or the other I suggest doing so.

 

[huge-girth]

yea it seem that everyone has their pros and cons...girth to me is extremely time and labor consuming and ive been at it for 2 years on n off and i have gained nothing in girth....hahaha ok ill will trade you in a heart beat

If you have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] and you are not making gains in girth, I suggest you read through this thread and follow the advice given: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ow-to-make-quick-gains-with-the-bathmate.html

 

[DLD]

If you have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] and you are not making gains in girth, I suggest you read through this thread and follow the advice given: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ow-to-make-quick-gains-with-the-bathmate.html

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] 5x5x3 and the world changes!

 

[huge-girth]

ok guys i dont know what happen but i guess the first post didnt go through so this is my second attempt on a thread..
any ways im new to this site fellow p.e. brothers and i like what i see this place is really helpful...
so some of my back ground is i have been doing p.e on n off for about a year n a half in tht time ive gotten pretty good at it..
but anyways my routine right now looks like this:
~10 min stretch
~100-400 jelqs
~5-10 1 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]
~5-15 5 sec kegal hold
~15-30 min clamping

my current size is 8.5 in in length and 5.25 girth yeas very skinny but goal is to gain 1 inch of girth and maybe half an inch of length
i also have the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] and a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bath mate[/words] pump on the way
well my issue is i have not gained anything not even a millimeter in this year and this is really frustrating and demotivating as some of you know
basically i would like advice, experiences and tips, tricks anything would be helpful and taken in
i need help brothers thanks!

The length master will take you from your current 8.5 inches size to 9 inches. You should be focusing more on girth now.

 

[DLD]

The length master will take you from your current 8.5 inches size to 9 inches. You should be focusing more on girth now.

I no time at all