No gains from bathmate still

[enigmabk]

i've had the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] since the start of november now and i have still had zero gains in length or girth.

the temporary gains are huge as i go from 5.2 EG to 6.5 EG but most of that is probably fluid retention. if i dont use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] for over one day, my girth shrinks back to 5.2

i use it twice a day, once in the noon and once at night, for about 15-20 minutes each, these temporary gains last for about an hour, and the fluid retention stays for5-6 hours.

another question i had was should i not use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] if there is still fluid retention? or is it okay to continue to the session?

has anyone here made gains from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone?? any help would be appreciated

 

[J1L]

i've had the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] since the start of november now and i have still had zero gains in length or girth.

the temporary gains are huge as i go from 5.2 EG to 6.5 EG but most of that is probably fluid retention. if i dont use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] for over one day, my girth shrinks back to 5.2

i use it twice a day, once in the noon and once at night, for about 15-20 minutes each, these temporary gains last for about an hour, and the fluid retention stays for5-6 hours.

another question i had was should i not use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] if there is still fluid retention? or is it okay to continue to the session?

has anyone here made gains from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone?? any help would be appreciated

To minimize FR, I suggest jelqing before using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. DLD suggest DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters to help relieve FR as well. One last thing you could do is use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] less and build up the time and intensity. Start off with 2 x 10 minute sessions. I jelq 300-600 times with warm up of 10 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and pump very strongly, and now I have no FR at all.

No growth could be from over training. If you're just using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] exclusively 2x per day (which is what I first did) and if you're not doing Penis Enlargement to supplement it, it's too much. Once your penis is conditioned to being in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], you'll feel an incredible pump WITHOUT getting the FR. You may also need to pump harder. The gains won't come if you're not consistently going past a "comfort zone" as you'll just be maintaining what you have. FR will get in the way of making more gains as your skin is receiving more of the pump, not inside which is where the growth occurs.

If you want more information or experiences on a regular basis, you can follow my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] experience thread. Good luck and it DOES work. It took me a good several weeks to get used to using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and learning how to position it comfortably and pump strongly. You have to increase your threshold as well and track your length inside the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].

Are you gaining in length while using it? If not then you need to pump harder or do some stretches before. If you haven't received measurable gains outside the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] but have inside, then you just need to use it more.

 

[DLD]

To minimize FR, I suggest jelqing before using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. DLD suggest DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters to help relieve FR as well. One last thing you could do is use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] less and build up the time and intensity. Start off with 2 x 10 minute sessions. I jelq 300-600 times with warm up of 10 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and pump very strongly, and now I have no FR at all.

No growth could be from over training. If you're just using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] exclusively 2x per day (which is what I first did) and if you're not doing Penis Enlargement to supplement it, it's too much. Once your penis is conditioned to being in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], you'll feel an incredible pump WITHOUT getting the FR. You may also need to pump harder. The gains won't come if you're not consistently going past a "comfort zone" as you'll just be maintaining what you have. FR will get in the way of making more gains as your skin is receiving more of the pump, not inside which is where the growth occurs.

If you want more information or experiences on a regular basis, you can follow my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] experience thread. Good luck and it DOES work. It took me a good several weeks to get used to using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and learning how to position it comfortably and pump strongly. You have to increase your threshold as well and track your length inside the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].

Are you gaining in length while using it? If not then you need to pump harder or do some stretches before. If you haven't received measurable gains outside the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] but have inside, then you just need to use it more.

^^^^ Excellent Post ^^^^

 

[islandboy]

enigmabk hang in there I think like it has been said it is time to add more exercises into your Penis Enlargement adventure as the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] will focus more on your girth than length. Not sure of your prior experience in Penis Enlargement but differently time to add some more exercises into the mix.

 

[enigmabk]

thanks J1L,with regular jelqs though i still seem to get fluid retention. so in conclusion you are saying that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone isnt a valid Penis Enlargement routine? i was hoping to get by wit it alone because stretches and jelqs are less convenient in terms of time, also when i pump, i go as hard as i can, till it almost hurts. i have gained length only inside of it but not outside, my EL is still the same. my flaccid hang seems to be SLIGHTly longer though, maybe just 1 cm

for the first 2 weeks of having the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] i also did 1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] minute session a day and i bumped it up to 2x when i didn't see any changes

@islandboy yeah i think it would be better to incorporate other exercises, at least stretches and some form of hanging? it is possible to gain girth and length right?

 

[islandboy]

Yes stretches are good they help by hitting it from another angle as the stretches are more for length and jelq's and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] will hit it from a girth workout angle. Have to remember to have some time for your body to heal in between each workout, just as important as the workout. Take a look at DLD first routine in Newbie section.

 

[enigmabk]

I actually used to do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] before the Bathmates but had no gains from those either, except a slight increase in flaccid hang, how much do you rest inbetween in terms of days?

 

[DLD]

I actually used to do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] before the Bathmates but had no gains from those either, except a slight increase in flaccid hang, how much do you rest inbetween in terms of days?

I suggest combining the pumping with the exercises. So if you are doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] break up the jelqing like this:

5 Minutes Jelqing
5 Minutes Pumping
x3

This will really step up the expansion and bring gains faster.

 

[DLD]

BTW I take no rest day

 

[enigmabk]

i was also curious about post-Bathmate, do you take do anything at the total end of the session? cock rings etc?

and does it really matter if i go in erect or non erect? the size gets to the same point regardless right?

 

[DLD]

i was also curious about post-Bathmate, do you take do anything at the total end of the session? cock rings etc?

and does it really matter if i go in erect or non erect? the size gets to the same point regardless right?

Many guys are either clamping or wearing a cock ring after the session. I personally enjoy going in erect and after the first minute or so I become semi-erect, this is best in my opinion. Starting soft for me takes too long to get to a good pressure.

 

[J1L]

thanks J1L,with regular jelqs though i still seem to get fluid retention. so in conclusion you are saying that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone isnt a valid Penis Enlargement routine? i was hoping to get by wit it alone because stretches and jelqs are less convenient in terms of time, also when i pump, i go as hard as i can, till it almost hurts. i have gained length only inside of it but not outside, my EL is still the same. my flaccid hang seems to be SLIGHTly longer though, maybe just 1 cm

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone is a valid routine, but everyones body will react differently. Some people gain inches, some people gain just a cm. You can use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] exclusively, it'll just take longer to gain. A 1 cm gain is still a gain, it's over 25% to an inch! It may just take time to cement that gain which means you have to keep consistent. DLDs suggestion of doing 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and 5min jelqs should help you on your way to making gains.

Doing Penis Enlargement requires learning about your own body and practicing to do what works best for you. That takes time and effort and there's no easy or quick path. You will gain, just try out some other routines. If you're not making gains one way, try another until something starts to work for your body. I noticed you've only had the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] for less than 2 months... I would keep going for 6 months and check back then.

Also make sure you get enough sleep, have a good diet and exercise and drink plenty of water. All of those things will contribute to gains.

 

[DLD]

Bathmate alone is a valid routine, but everyones body will react differently. Some people gain inches, some people gain just a cm. You can use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] exclusively, it'll just take longer to gain. A 1 cm gain is still a gain, it's over 25% to an inch! It may just take time to cement that gain which means you have to keep consistent. DLDs suggestion of doing 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and 5min jelqs should help you on your way to making gains.

Doing Penis Enlargement requires learning about your own body and practicing to do what works best for you. That takes time and effort and there's no easy or quick path. You will gain, just try out some other routines. If you're not making gains one way, try another until something starts to work for your body. I noticed you've only had the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] for less than 2 months... I would keep going for 6 months and check back then.

Also make sure you get enough sleep, have a good diet and exercise and drink plenty of water. All of those things will contribute to gains.

Another great post, thank you!

 

[islandboy]

I actually used to do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] before the Bathmates but had no gains from those either, except a slight increase in flaccid hang, how much do you rest inbetween in terms of days?

Hello enigmabk sorry i was pretty vague in the rest time from your workouts and like DLD said I too try not to take any breaks on a daily basis. I noticed in for early post you have been doing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] workout twice a day and that is the point I was talking about sorry for leaving you hanging in my comment. I usually workout twice a day as well just I break it out to length exercises in the am and girth exercises in the pm I would suggest getting into a routine of separating your length and girth by the am and pm workouts for penis recovery and arm recover if you are doing manual exercises. So the break time is approx 24 hours from each length / girth workouts. Overall health will improve your results as well not sure if you are exercising the rest of your body outside of Penis Enlargement workouts, it really is a total body improvement your are starting on here. From eating better quality foods to feed you on a cellular level, general exercising program to keep the rest of body in shape and this will assure good blood flow throughout the rest of your body systems. And the metal edge of your total body progressing in a health state, it becomes a snow ball effect of self-confidence boosting to where you and your body look forward to each and ever workout. Hang in there good things are just around the corner for you...

 

[enigmabk]

Thank you DLD and Island boy. I think i will be doing that, splitting my length routine in the day and girth routine at night ( im a night showered anyways, which is when i use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]). I am planning to do stretches and a 10 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session in the AM and jelqs and a 10 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session int he PM. Does that sound like a decent routine? and in terms of whole health I'm very health conscious and lift weights regularly. I actually had a theory on flaccid size and muscularity. I always figured the more muscle a guy has the more blood he needs to have circulating through his body, leaving less for his penis. Do you think this affects flaccid size or Penis Enlargement in any way? Thank you

 

[islandboy]

Another benefit with the split daily workout is to visualize your workout before your start your next workout, see it, believe it, and achieve it. As to your theory I believe your body will work to maintain a balance of blood capacity in proportion to your body frame. Exercise helps for a healthy bloodflow throughout your body espically your lower body.

I think one’s flaccid size has a starting point pre-Penis Enlargement but after you start down your personal journey of Penis Enlargement. I believe the overall goal is to place stress upon your penis to force it to adapt which means grow into a new you. Increase flaccid size does come in time as you keep at it. Workout consistence is a key so plan your routine to be honest to what you can do on a regular basis. In time you will see what exercises you respound to better then others.

 

[enigmabk]

Thank you everyone for all your input!. i combined the SSJs with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] like you said DLD and the results were fantastic. I did 15 minutes of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] followed by 10 minutes of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and 15 more minutes of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words], and ill either do 1 or 2 of them a day. all i gotta say is that it helped with the fluid retention a lot. by the end of my workout today i was at 6.5 inch girth with zero fluid buildup, it was a veiny looking beast! thank you everybody!

one question i had was when you guys do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s how long do you press your head down and keep it bent? ive been just holding it down for a couple seconds until i feel the pressure is gone then i'll kegel and redo it. is that fine?

 

[phatg0nk]

To all people considering doing pe.. Please take note that all the natural penis enlargement methods that " work" have great websites like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] ThunderPlace Penis Enlargement gym ect.. All these sights are flooded with penis enlargement tools that have been proven to lead to no gains and proven to over time cause your penis to no longer function properly..Se the trend.. flooded with advertisments for easier ways to increase speed over tons of post saying it will be a long haul.Not to mention when click there link to buy it - they make money of the fools that do it..
Thank you and have a nice day

Actually i would like to add that i have not been convinced that pe cant give you a very very small gain, and most certaintly better erection quality- however the point of these sights imo is a new gimmick to bring the reputation of penis pumps ect back in the realm of reasonable purchase- which they are far from.

 

[DLD]

To all people considering doing pe.. Please take note that all the natural penis enlargement methods that " work" have great websites like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] ThunderPlace Penis Enlargement gym ect.. All these sights are flooded with penis enlargement tools that have been proven to lead to no gains and proven to over time cause your penis to no longer function properly..Se the trend.. flooded with advertisments for easier ways to increase speed over tons of post saying it will be a long haul.Not to mention when click there link to buy it - they make money of the fools that do it..
Thank you and have a nice day

Actually i would like to add that i have not been convinced that pe cant give you a very very small gain, and most certaintly better erection quality- however the point of these sights imo is a new gimmick to bring the reputation of penis pumps ect back in the realm of reasonable purchase- which they are far from.

I respect your opinion but by posting this you are calling a lot of men liars who are making incredible gains using devices (particularly the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]) Mind you, neither of these methods are a softer easier way, they require just as much effort as a manual routine. I agree that there are devices that are a waste of money but the devices you find on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] have been approved by the members.

 

[anth1225]

Some people won't believe no matter what and make themselves the ultimate judge in the things they disparrage.

I'm laughing my ass off how all knowing he is since I've worked my butt off and achieved, in my opinion, awesome gains over the years. Oh and my wife's opinion too!

 

[DLD]

The biggest thing that holds any man back from gaining is himself.

 

[Iwillbe9]

YES- there is a slight swelling - dull pain, feels like dull warm sensation, I had a good erection last night and that seems ok-
Going through alot of stress /depression- and this dosen't seem to help,

Peforlife

Well, take it easy until you feel as though it has healed. The soreness is expected but swelling should not remain for more than a day. It sounds like you did strain yourself and are now on the road to healing. Having a good erection shows this fact.

 

[seattle_steve]

Some people won't believe no matter what and make themselves the ultimate judge in the things they disparrage.

I'm laughing my ass off how all knowing he is since I've worked my butt off and achieved, in my opinion, awesome gains over the years. Oh and my wife's opinion too!

Amen brother. I've only worked my ass off over months and I'm impressed. My wife however is ecstatic which I think is the real judge lol.

 

[DLD]

My wife however is ecstatic which I think is the real judge lol.

A wife's words are as good as a new measurement!

 

[phatg0nk]

Some people won't believe no matter what and make themselves the ultimate judge in the things they disparrage.

I'm laughing my ass off how all knowing he is since I've worked my butt off and achieved, in my opinion, awesome gains over the years. Oh and my wife's opinion too!

Well , I thought about using these before obviously..or i wouldnt be here.. I spent countless hours researching the matter. i used google to extensivly look for the bad and the good..the bad was generally , simple they dont work at all and when you try to get your money back you might as well be dealing with a small chinese company .the good were always ..Lol My wife likes it,, yay.. gain3 inches in a week blah blah .. just so much obvious bullshit imo..However im starting some manual pe which is said to give results alot faster and more permanent..I dont believe this either but ill check back in 4-5 months ..If there are gains then ill eat my words apologize and try to keep it a secret lol..If no gains then ill do my best via youtube and every other method to educate people on all the tricks of the trade to get people to buy bogus product.. One thing i can say to you guys is i havnt tried it myself so i cant say for sure, but when you sit back and look at the big picture and pe treads saying it works and devices dont but then there whole thing is covered in advertisment for devices .. Is it not obvious the reps of these companies have 50 accounts and create the threads the way they want them seen.
Again ill report back afterawhile with results of pe.. starting 6.75 nbpel - 4.5 eg _ obviously im looking more for girth

 

[DLD]

However im starting some manual pe which is said to give results alot faster and more permanent..I dont believe this either but ill check back in 4-5 months ..If there are gains then ill eat my words apologize and try to keep it a secret lol..If no gains then ill do my best via youtube and every other method to educate people on all the tricks of the trade to get people to buy bogus product.. One thing i can say to you guys is i havnt tried it myself so i cant say for sure, but when you sit back and look at the big picture and pe treads saying it works and devices dont but then there whole thing is covered in advertisment for devices .. Is it not obvious the reps of these companies have 50 accounts and create the threads the way they want them seen.
Again ill report back afterawhile with results of pe.. starting 6.75 nbpel - 4.5 eg _ obviously im looking more for girth

With your way of approaching Penis Enlargement you will not make gains, if you do not believe in what you are doing it is hard for it to come true. Take a more positive approach and the gains will come quickly. Now, lets say you did not make gains, do you think it is fair to the men who have made gains for you to discredit them? This whole approach is grounded in negativity and will more than likely end the same way.

 

[phatg0nk]

With your way of approaching Penis Enlargement you will not make gains, if you do not believe in what you are doing it is hard for it to come true. Take a more positive approach and the gains will come quickly. Now, lets say you did not make gains, do you think it is fair to the men who have made gains for you to discredit them? This whole approach is grounded in negativity and will more than likely end the same way.

dont believe in mythical believing, however i do believe if i follow the routines "proven" then it should work..I also believe we are all humans on this thread made of the same flesh and bones/tissue ect. so yeah - if i cant make gains then i believe im not decrediting people that have but rather my initial point of the post- wich was is being a high possibility for bs.
Dont get me wrong - i want it to work.. And to be honest can already say if nothing else there is one noticable change already in just 2 weeks. That is flaccid hang. While not everyday does it hold true , it seems that more often than not now, it doesnt quite go to the extreme point of flaccid as much as it did before which results in a better flaccid hang "looks wise any ways".. which i think is the only point of any one worrying about flaccid hang..If i get nothing more out of it then this, I would consider it worth it to me, but if i get gains neither then i would continue to do my best to let people know what to expect from these methods.. I really want to come back in 4-6 months and say look ive gained mayb .3 girth and i would go to the extreme to apologize. . My goals are not to much to ask for- im starting at 4.5 girth and want condoms not fall off.which at 5 inch gorth - i believe this wouldnt happen..If i was to obtain this goal im sure i would shoot for 5.25 and be super happy. If i was to end up at 4.9 .. I would still be extremly happy.Because my main goal is to not have to buy small condoms.At 4.5 i actually wear normal ones, but have to becareful too much.. Lil things can cause slippage fast and hamper some sexual activity.

 

[The colonel]

dont believe in mythical believing, however i do believe if i follow the routines "proven" then it should work..I also believe we are all humans on this thread made of the same flesh and bones/tissue ect. so yeah - if i cant make gains then i believe im not decrediting people that have but rather my initial point of the post- wich was is being a high possibility for bs.
Dont get me wrong - i want it to work.. And to be honest can already say if nothing else there is one noticable change already in just 2 weeks. That is flaccid hang. While not everyday does it hold true , it seems that more often than not now, it doesnt quite go to the extreme point of flaccid as much as it did before which results in a better flaccid hang "looks wise any ways".. which i think is the only point of any one worrying about flaccid hang..If i get nothing more out of it then this, I would consider it worth it to me, but if i get gains neither then i would continue to do my best to let people know what to expect from these methods.. I really want to come back in 4-6 months and say look ive gained mayb .3 girth and i would go to the extreme to apologize. . My goals are not to much to ask for- im starting at 4.5 girth and want condoms not fall off.which at 5 inch gorth - i believe this wouldnt happen..If i was to obtain this goal im sure i would shoot for 5.25 and be super happy. If i was to end up at 4.9 .. I would still be extremly happy.Because my main goal is to not have to buy small condoms.At 4.5 i actually wear normal ones, but have to becareful too much.. Lil things can cause slippage fast and hamper some sexual activity.

I think if you want more girth you should really start believing . I've not been in pe for long but have seen benefits and even with a fairly non consistent routine . I've hit a few hurdles along the way and had some set backs but have seen enough to believe . Do yourself a favor and buy a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] . If you want girth that bad what have you got to loose ? A few hundred bucks ? Doesn't seem like that much if you really want a fatter dick . If it doesn't work then at least you tried and didn't just complain . And I can tell you now its worth it even just for the temp expansion . It feels great . Only used for four days and love it . I have to take a week off but I'm champing at the bit to get back !!!!!!! It honestly feels like your holding somone else's dick after you pump . And my flaccid hang is better after only four days of use and still looking good after two day break now . For me $169 well spent . I could understand not wanting to spend thousands but you just don't need to .

 

[DLD]

I think if you want more girth you should really start believing . I've not been in pe for long but have seen benefits and even with a fairly non consistent routine . I've hit a few hurdles along the way and had some set backs but have seen enough to believe . Do yourself a favor and buy a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] . If you want girth that bad what have you got to loose ? A few hundred bucks ? Doesn't seem like that much if you really want a fatter dick . If it doesn't work then at least you tried and didn't just complain . And I can tell you now its worth it even just for the temp expansion . It feels great . Only used for four days and love it . I have to take a week off but I'm champing at the bit to get back !!!!!!! It honestly feels like your holding somone else's dick after you pump . And my flaccid hang is better after only four days of use and still looking good after two day break now . For me $169 well spent . I could understand not wanting to spend thousands but you just don't need to .

He already said he was not into mythical thinking and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is indeed mystical

 

[phatg0nk]

I think if you want more girth you should really start believing . I've not been in pe for long but have seen benefits and even with a fairly non consistent routine . I've hit a few hurdles along the way and had some set backs but have seen enough to believe . Do yourself a favor and buy a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] . If you want girth that bad what have you got to loose ? A few hundred bucks ? Doesn't seem like that much if you really want a fatter dick . If it doesn't work then at least you tried and didn't just complain . And I can tell you now its worth it even just for the temp expansion . It feels great . Only used for four days and love it . I have to take a week off but I'm champing at the bit to get back !!!!!!! It honestly feels like your holding somone else's dick after you pump . And my flaccid hang is better after only four days of use and still looking good after two day break now . For me $169 well spent . I could understand not wanting to spend thousands but you just don't need to .

Just way too many reviews out there saying it does nothing permanent. and most of them say it does nothing temporary even-outside the pump..All reviews ive read from credible sources say the second you pull your penis out it shrink to normal in seconds.. the same as just squeezing the base and letting it go..On top of that way to many people said the dont honor there warranty and not only that but 75 percent of the people cant even get it to seal or work. Like i said , ill stick with pe for awhile..Now i havnt measured any time in the last week, until last night, and ive been working on girth, but i may have seen somthing crazy last night.which was a 3/8" gain in length. I dont want to call it a gain yet because i still believe i had an abormally hard erection. but it gave me a wierd feeling last night. Because i was measuring every day then said fuck it and didnt measure for awhile till last night and was like bam.But i dont want to get carried away yet till i check it again over a few nights..
And more importantly i literally didnt want to gain length but dont have a problem with , starting at 7 i didnt want to go any longer because its just going to make my kinda smaller girth at 4.5 look thinner.. If this does start to show that it works. then mayb i would consider a pump- but bad customer service is the number one thing to keep from trying a product no matter what the price is..So idk about [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. i also have a curve that i think is natural but not sure..It be nice to make it a hair more straight if possible..

 

[petersouth]

Just way too many reviews out there saying it does nothing permanent. and most of them say it does nothing temporary even-outside the pump..All reviews ive read from credible sources say the second you pull your penis out it shrink to normal in seconds.. the same as just squeezing the base and letting it go..

LOL that's crazy.

After I use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] I'm a half inch thicker for a few hours and noticeably thicker until the next day.

Somebody is doing something very wrong to have it shrink to normal in seconds.

 

[MikeShlort]

^ I agree completely.
I've had a 1.5" temporary girth (which lasted 10 hours) by tying off after a session and keep tied for the night. (not recommended)
Even without tying off my pecker could get over a half inch bigger with an erection after pumping. Search for dan clizers "encouragement" thread or some basic [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] routines or my progress thread, there is a post of my two pumping routines in it, which gave me permanent girth gains (haven't pumped since april, still have the extra girth)

 

[petersouth]

That's the great thing about [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] as you get an instant preview. I tried it before sex and girls really feel that extra half inch of girth, there's no doubt it works.

My gains have been slow but definitely worth it. The thing is for most of us this is going to be a long term endeavor.

In a year you could have that extra inch or you can not have it, I figure I'll be around anyway so I may as well do what I can.

 

[The colonel]

My gains have been slow but definitely worth it. The thing is for most of us this is going to be a long term endeavor.

In a year you could have that extra inch or you can not have it, I figure I'll be around anyway so I may as well do what I can.[/QUOTE]



Exactly

 

[DLD]

In a year you could have that extra inch or you can not have it

Choice is yours

 

[DaOtherFineWine]

To understand what your penis is going through you should start working out. When I hit the benchpress my chest, shoulders, back, n triceps are noticably bigger. My abs are tighter and everythng. After a few hours im back to normal. Now if i have been doing my same routine on the bench fo 2 weeks wit lil to no days off my size is nice and I can feel the difference the entire day and can get away with a day off or two and have the same results as if I had been benching still. Once I take a break fo a week or something thn i go back to normal... Should I get discouraged??? No, I might look in the mirror and take pictures and realize that im not as pumped as I would be as opposed to if I had worked out right before taking pictures. Should I get discouraged? No, I dont want to be Big. I hav a goal of 270lbs, 3 sets, 10 reps, no spotter. I hate measuring. My goal is whst the muscle does... Not focusing on what it looks like and having a goal like that makes working out to me better. Penis Enlargement is the same way for me. I dont measure anymore. I let Penis Enlargement help with my sexual [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words], endurance, and skill. Focusing on being better and not bigger. Think of the other benefits of Penis Enlargement. I fuck for hours, my dick stays harder longer, and I understand my body more so my orgasms are well controled. They cant get enough of it. So because my focus is else where other thn size. Time goes by much faster since im not worryin about inches. After months of focusing on what the muscle and tissue does and trying to strengthen it, u will notice a change when u least expect it. I have gained in size from Penis Enlargement just like I did from my workouts. It wasnt weeks or months but im looking good. Quality vs quantity. 12 inches of jello will never out do a 3 inch blade... You will get what your looking for once you hav conditioned your penis for proper growth. Til then... Focus on making it stronger and well conditioned because you never know... Your girl might leave your brand new 10 for my 8 if you dont get that other shit under control champ! ; -) ha ha. Oh, I went from 7 - 8 inches in length and 5- 5.5 inches in girth. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] as warm up, Leech oil, jelging, x4 [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], and clamping in that order daily if possible. I wish u the best!

 

[MikeShlort]

^ Really good way to look at things. Thanks for that post

 

[DLD]

Nice add FineWine

 

[sanford78]

You don't need anything other than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] !!!! I was stuck on 170 for almost a month and a 1/2 and just last week I hit 183 !!!! You will grow just give it time and don't get discouraged!!!

 

[Neutronstar]

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[DLD]

Sorry for asking but when u come to forum or when u write here do u always come drunk ?.
Let me tell you a little story about my self. I am an astrophysics and do u really think that people like me believe on this shit without a proof ?.

i am not even desperate because my penis is about 6.2 inch (before i started to use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]). and now i am about 6.4 6.5 for 7 weeks use, and i haven't used it regularly because i move a lot around the country to observatories and astronomy facilities, and for me self is hard to take [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] everywhere i go, because i deal with serious people and i don't wanna look like an idiot even though they will love it if they know what is it.


U will have gain if u believe on yourself and don't ignore the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. IF u dont believe on yourself then stop because it never gonna work for u. I am that person who require proof for everything my job etc, and i did require proof for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] to and i tried and i got gain , and i am not lying because i have no reason to , i am a normal guy just like u who wanna have his anaconda bigger, and for me is workin like sweet. Put your shit together and start believing in yourself then u will see the result..

Great review and I am happy you are no longer a skeptic. It does take self belief for things to really go well. If I do anything with a lack of belief the results are usually poor. Good post!