Now in the start my EQ was worse so that counts for some of it considering the rest of the measurements I edged twice and got really the maximum size for the measurement.

First measurements 9.10.2014 (flip 9 and 10 if american)
5.7 BPEL (BAD EQ) 6.37 BPFSL 4.8 EG

12.10.14

6.3 BPEL 6.65 BPFSL

14.10.14

6.5 BPEL 6.77 BPFSL

15.10.14

6.5 BPEL 6.89 BPFSL

16.10

6.7 BPEL 7 BPFSL

18.10 6.77 BPEL 7.32 BPFSL
21.10 stopped length exercises prioritizing girth exercises to reach 6" girth before getting too long.

So far all I've done is BTC stretches 30-50sec to the right, left and sometimes to middle. I've done 4 to 8 sets of those over the course of day, not all at once. On top of those I've done moderate few second stretches while on the computer to keep it elongated. In the shower I've done some kind of jelqs that target glans for like 2 minutes per day.

I didn't really expect this big gains so fast but I'd like to think some of it is due to me doing heavy squats 3 days a week to increase HGH and other beneficial stuff.

I got [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] on the way so I'll add the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]+slowsquashjelq to my PE routine but otherwise I won't change it until I hit the plateau with this.

My ultimate goal is 8.6x6.6 but first goal is 7.5x6 where I plan to keep it for longer time.. I don't want girls turning me down for having too big dick (browsed Rddt/r/bigdickproblems and it seemed to happen to some guys... although I feel like they were just using that as an excuse why they didn't score with a chick).
 
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wtf this is madness can i gain like you please i wanna be 9 already but 10 end goal do you have before and after photos ?
 
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jacob5414;612948 said:
wtf this is madness can i gain like you please i wanna be 9 already but 10 end goal do you have before and after photos ?

Nah I dont have a cam with good enough quality and I figured I don't need a pic as long as I remember in the start it was average thus small.
 
There must be something in the water at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words] lately, we are seeing a lot of huge newbie gains over the past month.
 
I would love to conduct a study on all the men that get these amazingly fast gains and try to see what they are doing that others are not.
 
doublelongdaddy;613062 said:
I would love to conduct a study on all the men that get these amazingly fast gains and try to see what they are doing that others are not.

I thought the consensus was that a lot of these gains were mainly from upping ones EQ. Unless you can somehow zap your ligs that quick.
 
7.17" BPFSL 18.10.14 (+4mm in 2 days) I was stretching in sauna before measurement for warm up I'm usually too lazy to warm up properly. I could keep at 7.17 only for a moment so I'm not sure if the ruler bent and gave extra. Probably didn't but it's a possibility.

I've been taking 3g curcumin with 1.5g black pepper in olive oil every day might be making recovery faster. Black pepper and olive oil to increase bio availability of curcumin. It's supposed to increase muscle recovery by factor five link -> Curcumin helps damaged muscle recover faster + on top of that squats 3 times a week for HGH. Those together probably increase recovery as much as naturally possible. I'm planning to lose 20 lbs from 196lbs and I'm dieting right now so that might be affecting negatively to bone pressed gains but positively to NBPEL.

I haven't remeasured girth yet I doubt it has gained much but I'll check it before starting bathmating because 4.8 was measured with bad EQ.
 
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smerc;613078 said:
I thought the consensus was that a lot of these gains were mainly from upping ones EQ. Unless you can somehow zap your ligs that quick.

Many are but then we have cases where some of these men claim their erection quality was great prior to PE and since they started it remained that way These are the ones I am interested in, to see exactly why this happens to some men.
 
Second measurement today and got to 7.32 BPFSL tried to make sure ruler wasn't bending. Pretty close to full inch gain in BPFSL in 9 days.
 
mavekovis;613434 said:
Second measurement today and got to 7.32 BPFSL tried to make sure ruler wasn't bending. Pretty close to full inch gain in BPFSL in 9 days.

That's pretty quick. I was never 100% sure how EQ affected BPFSL. I guess it comes w/ the territory of a BPEL increase via EQ.

Are you using a heating pad for warmups?

You said you're in the process of dieting. Do you have much of a fat pad?

Curious to see how much of a girth gain you get even though you said you doubt much of one.
Are you getting much temp girth expansion from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]?
 
smerc;613454 said:
That's pretty quick. I was never 100% sure how EQ affected BPFSL. I guess it comes w/ the territory of a BPEL increase via EQ.

Are you using a heating pad for warmups?

You said you're in the process of dieting. Do you have much of a fat pad?

Curious to see how much of a girth gain you get even though you said you doubt much of one.
Are you getting much temp girth expansion from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]?

Fatpad is pretty significant my NBPEL is only 5.5 while BPEL is 6.77. My [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] hasn't arrived yet it was shipped on Wednesday so I'm hoping I'll get to use it tomorrow.
 
mavekovis;613522 said:
Fatpad is pretty significant my NBPEL is only 5.5 while BPEL is 6.77. My [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] hasn't arrived yet it was shipped on Wednesday so I'm hoping I'll get to use it tomorrow.

a few months of dieting will get that fat pad right down and you will get gains without even having to grow!
 
jordey;613545 said:
a few months of dieting will get that fat pad right down and you will get gains without even having to grow!

Yeah the fat pad really sucks and can make up lose a lot in visual length. Getting it down while you are gaining will bring gains so much faster and in the end your body will be in much better shape....win win situation.
 
Bathmate arrived today but they got me [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] when I ordered [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. I didn't open it yet.. I'm not sure if I should go through the trouble of sending it back for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words].
Atleast I got it for the price of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words] version so maybe I'll be fine with it at least with a stressball.
 
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mavekovis;613745 said:
Bathmate arrived today but they got me [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] when I ordered [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. I didn't open it yet.. I'm not sure if I should go through the trouble of sending it back for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words].
Atleast I got it for the price of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words] version so maybe I'll be fine with it at least with a stressball.

I'm not sure if that sucks or if it's good? IT's the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words] version correct? You mentioned only the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] before.

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words] = $160
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] = $200
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words] = $350

Depending on which one you've got:
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] = $40 price difference
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words] = $190 price difference

Now either way you look @ it. It's hitting their pockets, but they sent it to you by mistake.

You either:
A. Keep it.
B. Return it for the proper product.
C. Keep it and trade someone for an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words] and cash or something else.
D. Ebay for $$$ and repeat the buying process hoping you get an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words].

As far as using it. I wouldn't bother. You can try the stressball, but it could be a lousy pump and slow your chances overall for gains.
 
smerc;613755 said:
I'm not sure if that sucks or if it's good? IT's the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words] version correct? You mentioned only the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] before.

ye it's [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words]. I'm thinking I'll keep it since on the sizeguide on the site they would already recommend [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] for me so I should be able to get gains even if a little bit slower (maybe I can help that with doing longer sessions ? ).

Is there a big chance that [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] "slowgains" won't take me to a size where [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] would start to work efficiently ?
 
If people recommend the ball method, then go ahead and try it.
You're going to get a better pump anyways due to the added hose pump (wine vac replica). I forgot to factor that in earlier.

Give it a go and if it doesn't work to your standards you could sell or trade it on the forum.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that you have room to grow even past the 7 mark in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. You're just better suited for that. Not factoring any mods you do (like a ball included in the pump to regulate the vacuum better).
 
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I would keep it and I do not think you will need a stress ball, I think you will be able to get great vacuum as it is. Plus, now you have a pump for life, you will not need to upgrade later.
 
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