it seems like all of you guys are starting out at a minimum of 6.5" or even 7" usually.

and I read that your starting size is what really matters. am I just doomed to be tiny my whole life? or should I give this a shot? I'm 5.5 inches hard, yeah. sad. I know.
 
I mean I would kill something to make my penis an inch bigger. It's just unbelievable to me that you could make your penis a FULL INCH bigger. I mean I'm sitting here with a ruler looking at how much that is. I'd kill man. That's a big difference.
 
First of all, 5.5" is hardly a "bad size". Sure, no one's ever going to call you "huge", but 5.5" is, at the very least, the low end of the "normal" spectrum. It's hardly what I would call "sad", and there's no reason you should feel so bad about having one.

Second, trust me-- a master in the bedroom could still send shockwaves through a girl with a 5.5 incher. Unless you're officially in the small range, as in the 4 inchers and below, you're not going to have any mechanical difficulties that can't be remedied with practice and savvy.

Lastly, even if you gained nothing more than an inch, that'd put you at 6.5", in which case you'd then be above average. So you've got nothing to lose really. And, if you really do manage to grow a good 2 inches or so, you'll be well above average and comfortably in the realm of "really big".

I'd say it's definitely worth it, but even if you don't try it, you've got no reason to be so down on yourself. Whether you're 5.5" or 7.5", there's a lot you can do with that thing.
 
edaily55 said:
First of all, 5.5" is hardly a "bad size". Sure, no one's ever going to call you "huge", but 5.5" is, at the very least, the low end of the "normal" spectrum. It's hardly what I would call "sad", and there's no reason you should feel so bad about having one.

Second, trust me-- a master in the bedroom could still send shockwaves through a girl with a 5.5 incher. Unless you're officially in the small range, as in the 4 inchers and below, you're not going to have any mechanical difficulties that can't be remedied with practice and savvy.

Lastly, even if you gained nothing more than an inch, that'd put you at 6.5", in which case you'd then be above average. So you've got nothing to lose really. And, if you really do manage to grow a good 2 inches or so, you'll be well above average and comfortably in the realm of "really big".

I'd say it's definitely worth it, but even if you don't try it, you've got no reason to be so down on yourself. Whether you're 5.5" or 7.5", there's a lot you can do with that thing.
really? well, I haven't had any complaints, but... I guess it would just give me more confidence. you guys starting out with 7 inches kill me.

You say "even if you gained nothing more than an inch" like it's not that much? how many years would that take to make your penis grow an inch!? is this something that we can do in 30 minutes/day if we wake up earlier? I read one guy does this 4 hours per day, is he retired or something? the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] looks like it would take around 30 minutes but is that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] enough to grow a WHOLE INCH?
 
Is there any reason to do this?? Hell yeah!

A consistent finding has been that starting size has no effects on gains, so you can expect to gain as much as anyone else. If you are dedicated for several years, there is no reason why you can't grow 2" to 7.5", which is often described as ideal for length.

So you have a reasonable shot of getting an ideal penis with lots and lots of hard work, and you're wondering whether you should even bother? Get working!
 
DriverNuts said:
really? well, I haven't had any complaints, but... I guess it would just give me more confidence. you guys starting out with 7 inches kill me.

You say "even if you gained nothing more than an inch" like it's not that much? how many years would that take to make your penis grow an inch!? is this something that we can do in 30 minutes/day if we wake up earlier? I read one guy does this 4 hours per day, is he retired or something? the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] looks like it would take around 30 minutes but is that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] enough to grow a WHOLE INCH?

Don't get me wrong; gaining an inch is no small feat. But it's hardly insurmountable, either. Many guys have [claimed] to gain an inch, or nearly so, in a matter of months (4-5, etc.). But the "textbook" wisdom says that the average Penis Enlargement'er gains an inch in about 8 months.

In either case, that's a WORLD of difference that can be reasonably expected in well under a year of work. Totally worth it, don't you think?
 
Driver,

First of all, 5.5 is about average according to the latest studies. No shame in that at all.

Second, it isn't your starting size that determines gains. There's some complicated business about the length of your suspensory and fundiform ligaments that determines how much of your gains can come from the ligs ("easy" gains). After lig gains, you have to work on tunica gains, which takes longer. I'd be willing to bet that most people can gain an inch just from the ligs. Check out Bib's LOT thread to understand this better:

http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15678

Your join date indicates that you've been a member for quite a while, but it seems you haven't started yet. I don't know how much knowledge you have about Penis Enlargement, but if that last paragraph didn't make much sense, you can check out this article:

http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17108

And the girth one:

http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17109

Give the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] a go for 6-8 weeks. If you're still making gains on it at that point, keep doing it until the gains run out. After that, you may decide to do Phase 2 as outlined on the paysite, or you could design your own routine using some of the exercises in those articles. You may decide to try hanging. There are a lot of different approaches that work.

While I'm pimping my articles :D , I might as well point you to my Product Review thread. You may end up deciding to buy some Penis Enlargement tools in the future, and this should be helpful in the decision.

http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18978
 
DriverNuts, dude no need to kill anybody, an inch on this site is very likely if not expected feat for anyone who really throws themselves into it. I would say if you really wanted to be dedicated and consistent you could see an inch of length in 6 months to a year. Consider the newbie gains from jelqing, the newbie gains from manual stretching, and the newbie gains from hanging, and you may have an inch alone there. Of course you would have to ask yourself, are you willing to invest the time, and the money on vaseline and a hanger? I'm willing to guess that since you were willing to kill someone, this shouldn't be too much to ask:) .
Also what's your girth? Do you have any aspirations of increasing that too? Of course if you only wanted length it will be that much easier. Seriously though man, you've come to the right place. Start reading what you need to know, and get your ass in gear now! Good luck!
 
I started around 5.5" and after about a solid year i have gained a little over an inch so its worth it no matter where you start!
 
I am in the same boat. Around 5.5 erect and a lot smaller soft.
Wife thinks I am crazy about my Penis Enlargement and says it will fall off with all the things I do to it.rofl
 
DriverNuts said:
it seems like all of you guys are starting out at a minimum of 6.5" or even 7" usually.

and I read that your starting size is what really matters. am I just doomed to be tiny my whole life? or should I give this a shot? I'm 5.5 inches hard, yeah. sad. I know.


I started 5.1 bp and now after more than 3 years hard work of several hours per day i arrived with 7.4 bp erect lenght;

Just keep it on and make the best of it !
 
those are good gains shadus!!
i too started small ( 5 inch nbpel) after 8 months i reached 6 inches nbpel (i didnt have newbie gains and this is where i am at today) i plan to stick with this for the next few years because i know gains are very possible it just takes more time in some people than others....
 
DriverNuts said:
it seems like all of you guys are starting out at a minimum of 6.5" or even 7" usually.

and I read that your starting size is what really matters. am I just doomed to be tiny my whole life? or should I give this a shot? I'm 5.5 inches hard, yeah. sad. I know.

Of corse you should do it, and 5.5" is not sad, it is normal.
 
Some good advise here on the best physical applications of stretching, you may also look into bundled and rotary stretches (when time allows experience). I also think it important to address the mental applications, when stretching. Having a visual goal, a solid belief and a clear picture and motivation is so important to making this happen. The mind is so vital in making these physical (some would say meta-physical) things happen.

Our penis stopped growing (between 18 and 21) and since that time, for us older men, we have seen one size. Changing that size is something that is incredible, so it is important to familiarize yourself with the stories of success found within the site. Real, hard evidence does wonders for faith:).
 
DriverNuts, im still a newbie to all of this, but i will tell you this, it is DEFINITLY worth your time. I gained half an inch in length in as little as 5 months, and im very happy with it to say the least. Some people gain that alot quicker, but a gain is a gain and that is way better than no gain. If you start and do it smart and consistantly, you realy dont know where you are gonna wind up, esp after a good year. I just recently hit 7.5 nbp after doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] for a while then taking a break, and i was going to stop there, but now i want the full 8 inches non bone pressed by the end of this year. This whole pe thing is realy quite a fun journey, and you should definitly give it a shot. Like others said, an inch would put you at 6.5, and thats in the "big" category and is def above average. Id say thats a pretty good thing to work towards, then once you get that, go for more.
 
DriverNuts said:
You guys are being very supportive and I really appreciate it. I really do. see I'm a short guy, so because of that little bit of insecurity I've kind of built a really athletic physique (no steroids don't worry) and because of that I've also felt like well if I'm shorter then my cock must be small too :(

It is amazing how many "false truths" we build around ourselves. It seems like the best mirror for these is the anonymity the internet gives us. They become so evident when we press :enter: and another man can answer you with information that will change your life, forever. Really incredible.

I could say, it does not matter, your insecurities that is but that would be acceptance. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is about change and if you want a bigger penis...go get it!:)
 
Hey driver...dont feel bad cause guys here say that there dick is 7 or 8 inches long........i have seen pictures of there penises with with a ruler next to it and id would say 85 percent are dreamers. these guys who claim to0 have 7 inchers give themselvesd like 2 extra inches .....i swear. That is why i only measure accual insertable penis. So dont feel bad cause 95 percent of the guys on her have 5 inch penises....and when they measure it the start off at the 2 inch mark and then claim to have a 7 or 8 incher. i kinda feel bad for them, but part of me wants to tell them how obvious and pathetic it is what they are doing.. Get to work man.....Penis Enlargement really works...
 
desiel_dick said:
Hey driver...dont feel bad cause guys here say that there dick is 7 or 8 inches long........i have seen pictures of there penises with with a ruler next to it and id would say 85 percent are dreamers. these guys who claim to0 have 7 inchers give themselvesd like 2 extra inches .....i swear. That is why i only measure accual insertable penis. So dont feel bad cause 95 percent of the guys on her have 5 inch penises....and when they measure it the start off at the 2 inch mark and then claim to have a 7 or 8 incher. i kinda feel bad for them, but part of me wants to tell them how obvious and pathetic it is what they are doing.. Get to work man.....Penis Enlargement really works...
Who does this? I can think of maybe one that I've seen that is as questionable as you make it sound, but you make it seem like 2 out of 3 measured pics are fallacy, and well they aren't. Also, how do you start off at the 2 inch mark with a hard ruler?
Is it me or does this post have some hint of animosity in it? Tell me, you just joined last month, but you've obviously had alot of experience with Penis Enlargement, what forum are you coming from?
If your post was meant in an honestly amiable way, then I apologize. I am a little sleep deprived right now and may be trippin' over nothing, but something about the way you came right out and started bashing the picture proof section of our forum after being here for only a month just seems a little odd to me. Just curious.....
 
desiel_dick said:
Hey driver...dont feel bad cause guys here say that there dick is 7 or 8 inches long........i have seen pictures of there penises with with a ruler next to it and id would say 85 percent are dreamers. these guys who claim to0 have 7 inchers give themselvesd like 2 extra inches .....i swear. That is why i only measure accual insertable penis. So dont feel bad cause 95 percent of the guys on her have 5 inch penises....and when they measure it the start off at the 2 inch mark and then claim to have a 7 or 8 incher. i kinda feel bad for them, but part of me wants to tell them how obvious and pathetic it is what they are doing.. Get to work man.....Penis Enlargement really works...


I to never realy understood measuring bone pressed, but i just started tracking it seriously and probably will continue to do so, to me it does make sense now for tracking total gains. Since im 7.5 nbp and 8.5 bp, i get a full inch, which means i gotta trim some more bodyfat. Now that wont make me 8.5 nbp, no way, probably more like 7.75 or even closer to 8. But then you have dudes like Crayzed, who are my bp size, but see, his nbp is 8 inches, which is a half inch longer than my nbp. Skinnier dudes with less bodyfat obviously get less than guys like myself who get a full inch from the bone press. Everyones penis is going to look different because of the fatpad, esp when some are as big as others bone pressed with more fat down there.
 
bIgjOe said:
Who does this? I can think of maybe one that I've seen that is as questionable as you make it sound, but you make it seem like 2 out of 3 measured pics are fallacy, and well they aren't. Also, how do you start off at the 2 inch mark with a hard ruler?
Is it me or does this post have some hint of animosity in it? Tell me, you just joined last month, but you've obviously had alot of experience with Penis Enlargement, what forum are you coming from?
If your post was meant in an honestly amiable way, then I apologize. I am a little sleep deprived right now and may be trippin' over nothing, but something about the way you came right out and started bashing the picture proof section of our forum after being here for only a month just seems a little odd to me. Just curious.....


The detectives are on the jizzy!
 
wait wait don't turn my thread into a flame fest! thanks for the encouragement though diesel :)

I'm going to take it slowly this time. I just did about 5 minutes of stretching all around after a warmup. Take a break and I'll do 5 more minutes after my shower. I think this time I will actually "work up to" the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] so I definitely don't get injured.

But seriously, what do you do with an 8 inch cock if you get a boner in public? wouldn't the thing shoot straight up over your belt?!:O
 
bIgjOe said:
Who does this? I can think of maybe one that I've seen that is as questionable as you make it sound, but you make it seem like 2 out of 3 measured pics are fallacy, and well they aren't. Also, how do you start off at the 2 inch mark with a hard ruler?
Is it me or does this post have some hint of animosity in it? Tell me, you just joined last month, but you've obviously had alot of experience with Penis Enlargement, what forum are you coming from?
If your post was meant in an honestly amiable way, then I apologize. I am a little sleep deprived right now and may be trippin' over nothing, but something about the way you came right out and started bashing the picture proof section of our forum after being here for only a month just seems a little odd to me. Just curious.....


Hey big joe. I think the lack of sleep might be getting to you,lol...no but seriosly, i was not trying to be an asshole. I was just saying what i think and see. witch is alot of guys who make wishfull measurments. honestley...no anamosity..(spelling)and to answer your question on how they start out with a 2 inch mark with a hard ruler....easy....i have seen it like a million times in pictures on here. They stab the ruler into their gut. its like unbelivable to me....i hope they realize they are only fooling themselves, but, if that makes them feel better i have no problem with it. All i was saying is that it does happen alot and i think it is wrong that these guys with really short dicks are braggin and sayin they have a 7 inch cock....when reality of it is, they dont. I dont know, just seems..............oh,I dont know......contradictive. Sorry if i care across arrogant or pompus
 
doublelongdaddy said:
The detectives are on the jizzy!


Hey its DLD......I just wanted to tell you that you have effected my life and changewd it for the better. Your kinda like someone to look up to mike. Im chris by the way, and i just thought you should know that you can rest easy tonight knowing that you have changed someone for the better. I hope everything is going good for you.. DLD= Rolemodel
 
DriverNuts said:
wait wait don't turn my thread into a flame fest! thanks for the encouragement though diesel :)

I'm going to take it slowly this time. I just did about 5 minutes of stretching all around after a warmup. Take a break and I'll do 5 more minutes after my shower. I think this time I will actually "work up to" the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] so I definitely don't get injured.

But seriously, what do you do with an 8 inch cock if you get a boner in public? wouldn't the thing shoot straight up over your belt?!:O


Yea im possitive that you will make gains drivernuts.. And getting a boner in public isnt really a problem for me, i dont know......if i do get a rock hard boner in public...i will sence it growing, and befor it is really hard, i lift it up and strap it to my stomage with my belt.then pull my shirt down....uncomfortable, but at least i dont have a boner stabbing out of pant leg.
 
Not trying to hijack this thread, but i got a couple questions for desial. Desial, you started at 7 3/4 in length, how long did it take you to get to 8 1/4 nbp? Im just wondering because i would like to hit 8 by the end of the year, and i just want to see how long it took you to get there. Also, what did your routine mainly consist of to get there? Thanks in advance.

.
 
desiel_dick said:
Hey driver...dont feel bad cause guys here say that there dick is 7 or 8 inches long........i have seen pictures of there penises with with a ruler next to it and id would say 85 percent are dreamers. these guys who claim to0 have 7 inchers give themselvesd like 2 extra inches .....i swear. That is why i only measure accual insertable penis. So dont feel bad cause 95 percent of the guys on her have 5 inch penises....and when they measure it the start off at the 2 inch mark and then claim to have a 7 or 8 incher. i kinda feel bad for them, but part of me wants to tell them how obvious and pathetic it is what they are doing.. Get to work man.....Penis Enlargement really works...

Instead of calling 85% of members here pathetic dreamers you should just state that you disagree with BPenis EnlargementL measurements, you wouldn't be the first.

Still, you obviously don't understand the benefits of BP versus NBP for tracking gains. If someone claims certain BP lenght we are all smart enough to understand that NBP is shorter. Most times people will also state their NBP simultaneosly, or when asked.
 
desiel_dick said:
Hey its DLD......I just wanted to tell you that you have effected my life and changewd it for the better. Your kinda like someone to look up to mike. Im chris by the way, and i just thought you should know that you can rest easy tonight knowing that you have changed someone for the better. I hope everything is going good for you.. DLD= Rolemodel


Thank you for your kind words, just keep doing my thing:)
 
NewGuy311 said:
Not trying to hijack this thread, but i got a couple questions for desial. Desial, you started at 7 3/4 in length, how long did it take you to get to 8 1/4 nbp? Im just wondering because i would like to hit 8 by the end of the year, and i just want to see how long it took you to get there. Also, what did your routine mainly consist of to get there? Thanks in advance.

.

Hey new guy. ok well i started about 2 months ago. My routine goes like this.

5 mins warm up with hot wrap.

25 mins of man streches. 5 mins in each direction (out, up ,down ,left ,right) taking a minute break inbetween sets and swinging mhy flacid around to get blood flow.

After streches i then go and warm wrap again for 5 mins.

I then wet jelq for 25 to 30 mins using(this is my little secret i dont think to many know about) BAG BALM. it is used on cows forf milking the utters it softens the tissue and engorges it with blood. I swear by it. so wet jelq with bag balm.

I then do some horse squeezes for 10 mins to really expand the girth and head.

After that I Warm wrap for 10 mins. And while im doing that i run the bath water then soak in the tub for a lil bit. (As you can tell I make it a point to always warm wrap. My main concern coming into this was keeping the good looks, or attractivness of my penis skin color and shape. I know clampers can have some nasty discoloration. I attribute my extremly healthy looking penis to always always always warm wrapping. very important.

ANd as for day on and off. I go 3 or 4 days on....then 1 day off. everything seems to be balancing out perfectly.

I have a picture of it in my profile. so i figure a yr from now ill be 9 by 7 nbpel &girth

Newguy......what are your current stats???
 
desiel_dick said:
Hey new guy. ok well i started about 2 months ago. My routine goes like this.

5 mins warm up with hot wrap.

25 mins of man streches. 5 mins in each direction (out, up ,down ,left ,right) taking a minute break inbetween sets and swinging mhy flacid around to get blood flow.

After streches i then go and warm wrap again for 5 mins.

I then wet jelq for 25 to 30 mins using(this is my little secret i dont think to many know about) BAG BALM. it is used on cows forf milking the utters it softens the tissue and engorges it with blood. I swear by it. so wet jelq with bag balm.

I then do some horse squeezes for 10 mins to really expand the girth and head.

After that I Warm wrap for 10 mins. And while im doing that i run the bath water then soak in the tub for a lil bit. (As you can tell I make it a point to always warm wrap. My main concern coming into this was keeping the good looks, or attractivness of my penis skin color and shape. I know clampers can have some nasty discoloration. I attribute my extremly healthy looking penis to always always always warm wrapping. very important.

ANd as for day on and off. I go 3 or 4 days on....then 1 day off. everything seems to be balancing out perfectly.

I have a picture of it in my profile. so i figure a yr from now ill be 9 by 7 nbpel &girth

Newguy......what are your current stats???



Thanks alot for the response big guy. Damn 2 months? Thats insane, i gained a half inch in about 5 months, not bad i think but you did better than me. You also started off bigger than me, congrats on those gains man that is awesome. I also saw the pic in your profile man, i dont know if id want to be that big, another half inch which would put my at 8 would do me just fine, but i also said that about getting to 7.5. That looks like a solid routine to, might have to give it a try once i start peing seriously again. I was doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] which yielded great results but along with that came a nasty, painful t-vein and crappy erections. Now im almost 100%. Where can i get bag balm? I always used regular hand lotion for my wet jelqs, is bag balm realy that much better?



Right now my stats are 7.5 nbp erect length by 5.6 erect girth. I have a journal in the pic proof section, i was using a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] case which is exactly 7.5 for reference and i finally am the length of the case. My girth went up to 6 at one point from doing slow jelqs, but then i started stretching heavily and that kind of knocked it down close to what it naturally was which was 5.5. I started at 7 non bone pressed, after a couple months i gained a quarter and was 7.25and 8.25 bone pressed. Now i added another .25 on both bone pressed and non bone pressed. However with bone press, i gain a full inch, so that means i need to be in better shape. I dont claim that as my length though, but i do kind of like it because it is tracking gains. Also from looking at the pics in your profile, you are realy fit. I have to ask, do you work out and if so, what kind of regimen do you do? Also, what does your diet look like?
 
DriverNuts said:
cyclops,



You guys are being very supportive and I really appreciate it. I really do. see I'm a short guy, so because of that little bit of insecurity I've kind of built a really athletic physique (no steroids don't worry)

Same here.. what got me lifting weights was because I hated being small and wanted to get bigger and I hated people being stronger than me in athletics and now I practically fell in love with the sport of bodybuilding.
 
Ok well after hearing yuor stats you are a big guy your self. you can find bag balm at pet stores...or buy it online, but im sure you can find it about anywhere.


As for me I do work out. 3 days a week and me being naturally thin, i consintated on doing Compound exercises of heavy weight, low reps. (bench, millitary press, squats, deadlifts, wide grip pull ups, and then after and only after do i do isolated exercises. I accually follow a program it is call secrets to gaining muscle mass fast by anthony ellis. google it and you will see some stuff.
My diet is 40 percent protein 30 percent fat and 30 percent carbs. I eat 6 small 500 calorie meals a day. 2 of the meals I get from an meal replacement shake witch is absolutly great. Me being a hardgainer....hard for me to gain weight my whole life i had to shock my body into growth. but that is how i i am 160 of PURE muscle. 7 percent bodyfat i have. but there is only thing that will stop anybody from getting incredible results in something they set out for.....no being commited. I never missed a workout of a meal, always every 3 hrs i would have another meal.....always fueling my body with what it needs to grow. Same goes with Penis Enlargement. I set out to do it and i havent missed anything yet. I learned that i could achieve anything if I commit myself to it. I know this sounds like corney insperational words.....but it is so true its scary. People i went to high school with 4 yrs ago dont even recognize me cause im transformed myself. anyway ill stop now. GOOD luck! and remeber.when it comes to the females....those who hesitate....masterbate..
 
desiel_dick said:
Ok well after hearing yuor stats you are a big guy your self. you can find bag balm at pet stores...or buy it online, but im sure you can find it about anywhere.


As for me I do work out. 3 days a week and me being naturally thin, i consintated on doing Compound exercises of heavy weight, low reps. (bench, millitary press, squats, deadlifts, wide grip pull ups, and then after and only after do i do isolated exercises. I accually follow a program it is call secrets to gaining muscle mass fast by anthony ellis. google it and you will see some stuff.
My diet is 40 percent protein 30 percent fat and 30 percent carbs. I eat 6 small 500 calorie meals a day. 2 of the meals I get from an meal replacement shake witch is absolutly great. Me being a hardgainer....hard for me to gain weight my whole life i had to shock my body into growth. but that is how i i am 160 of PURE muscle. 7 percent bodyfat i have. but there is only thing that will stop anybody from getting incredible results in something they set out for.....no being commited. I never missed a workout of a meal, always every 3 hrs i would have another meal.....always fueling my body with what it needs to grow. Same goes with Penis Enlargement. I set out to do it and i havent missed anything yet. I learned that i could achieve anything if I commit myself to it. I know this sounds like corney insperational words.....but it is so true its scary. People i went to high school with 4 yrs ago dont even recognize me cause im transformed myself. anyway ill stop now. GOOD luck! and remeber.when it comes to the females....those who hesitate....masterbate..


Thanks man, im big but not to big, surely not a monster but i think that could very easily change if i can just get some more hefty girth behind me, but i always focus on length. Id like to be 6.25-6.5 erect girth. With my new length, with that kind of girth, i think my cock would be perfect. Atleast in my own mind hehe.


Ill definitly have to check out my local petstore and see if they carry it, im willing to try anything once and if its better for jelqing than thats only going to improve sessions.


I kind of figured that, i was the exact same way in high school and i started lifting heavy and hardcore, still do till this day. My thing is i eat ATLEAST 5 meals a day, im always training constantly heavy and never do anything above 6 reps, so my body for a dude my height is pretty big. My bf though is nothing like yours, im more of a thick, stocky powerful dude than a long lean guy. Thanks for the rundown man, see what im trying to do is learn a little bit from everybody and try and put it in my own routine. Your words dont sound corny, because it is the truth alot of the time. I set into Penis Enlargement at 100% focus like i do anything else in my life. Keep up the good work man.
 
DriverNuts, you gotta get your stretching routine to atleast 45mins 2x daily and wear an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] for as many hours as humanly possible. Buying a hanger will allow you if any(even ifl you don't want to hang) to pull with the force needed in any direction(certainly more than your hands could produce). Pm me if you need advice on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] thing for I don't want sound like I'm selling anything cuz I'm not, but have a few good suggestions. Also, understand the LOT theory.:)
 
desiel_dick said:
Hey big joe. I think the lack of sleep might be getting to you,lol...no but seriosly, i was not trying to be an asshole. I was just saying what i think and see. witch is alot of guys who make wishfull measurments. honestley...no anamosity..(spelling)and to answer your question on how they start out with a 2 inch mark with a hard ruler....easy....i have seen it like a million times in pictures on here. They stab the ruler into their gut. its like unbelivable to me....i hope they realize they are only fooling themselves, but, if that makes them feel better i have no problem with it. All i was saying is that it does happen alot and i think it is wrong that these guys with really short dicks are braggin and sayin they have a 7 inch cock....when reality of it is, they dont. I dont know, just seems..............oh,I dont know......contradictive. Sorry if i care across arrogant or pompus
Yeah your probably right man, I think it was mostly the lack of sleep that got me all cranky to begin with. I stayed up all night finishing a paper so I could go to a lab for school nice and early in the morning (just didn't go to sleep), and then had to go to fight training directly afterwards. So I guess I wasn't in the greatest state for human interaction!lol I get where your coming from now, it doesnt even seem like bone pressed measuring is really your beef either as some would interpret it....as long as it is done correctly.
Anyway, sorry our first exchange of words were on a negative note, but heres to starting anew! Interesting thoughts about the Bag Balm too, def. sounds interesting. Cool contribution to this pool of knowledge. Happy days!
 
DriverNuts said:
it seems like all of you guys are starting out at a minimum of 6.5" or even 7" usually.

I started at 5.9" NBP(6.5"BP). Gained 1/2" in two months, then stopped gaining. Eventually, I figured out that what I was doing (mostly lots of jelqs) wasn't working and I tried something different. I finally got my first inch after 12-13 months total.
 
Keep in mind that for whatever their reasons most of the guys who post they sizes post only their BP lengths and very rarely their non bp. This gives the false impression for the newer guys that everyone here is "huge" when in fact the non bp is what should be judged.
 
i personally believe in tracking your BP lengths only because weight fluctuates and i like to keep track of actual gains

and i feel better about myself if i think in terms of BPenis EnlargementL and i like to keep things positive

i wish i could lose some of my 1" pad though
 
stillwantmore said:
Keep in mind that for whatever their reasons most of the guys who post they sizes post only their BP lengths and very rarely their non bp. This gives the false impression for the newer guys that everyone here is "huge" when in fact the non bp is what should be judged.

Then weight loss is vital to every Penis Enlargement program, especially fat pad reduction.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Then weight loss is vital to every Penis Enlargement program, especially fat pad reduction.
unfortunately I'm around 10% bodyfat so this won't help me much.
got back into [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] today :)
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Then weight loss is vital to every Penis Enlargement program, especially fat pad reduction.



DLD, i do cardio, but what excercise do you think targets that area of the body the most if you want to lose it? Thanks in advance.
 
NewGuy311 said:
DLD, i do cardio, but what excercise do you think targets that area of the body the most if you want to lose it? Thanks in advance.

Wow, there is so much to changing this area. For me it was a complete lifestyle change, food, thought, exercise, everything.
 
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