So I did it.


I have been Penis Enlargement'ing on and off for about three years now all with waiting to find a decent Doc to perform both enlargement procedures.

Here are my stats just before the operation.

5'10 165 Althletic build
Age 22
Do not smoke, eat healthy

BPenis EnlargementL 6"
NBPenis EnlargementL 5.60"
Flaccid ( Measured by Dr. ) 3.75
Flaccid Girth 3.25
Erect Girth (Midshaft) 4.25
Erect Base Girth 4.60


One Day post-op with minimal swelling

Flaccid retracted length 4.5
Flaccid Girth (half way between midshaft and base) 5.40



Operation Details

Dermal graft taken from left buttock
Suspendatory ligament severed
Operation time 3 hours


Pain

I am very suprised to not that the pain is minimal. I had a small erection last night, and that was the most painful, but honestly not that bad. The only reason I have been takiing pain kills is to relax me and make me sit and let my body heal.



I don't have any pics just yet, but will update when I get home and can take off the bandages.
 
Very interesting bud, hope it works out for you. I would be lying if I said I wasnt curious about the cost, I'm sure insurance doesnt cover this, but would you mind filling us in on a ballpark price range this was?
 
What kind of post-op therapy did the doc prescribe? I have seen hanging, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] devices, and pumps all recomended as post-op therapy.
 
Most people say the pain gets worse after a few days. I mean, I hope it doesn't for you, but I'm just letting you know what I've heard.

I suspect that keeping up the post-surgery plan of treatment such as [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or hanging is essential to the success.

Keep us informed of the results! :)
 
RazedNegative said:
Very interesting bud, hope it works out for you. I would be lying if I said I wasnt curious about the cost, I'm sure insurance doesnt cover this, but would you mind filling us in on a ballpark price range this was?


Absolutely. Insurance does not cover the costs of surgery but does for the prescriptions, which are antibiotics and pain kills.

Ball park range JUST for the procedure itself for a dermal graft is 10,000. The lengthening is another 2k and if you choose Alloderm which I suggest dermal, it is 800 a sheet and you typically need 6 sheets to receive the same results as your own skin.
 
goldmember said:
What kind of post-op therapy did the doc prescribe? I have seen hanging, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] devices, and pumps all recomended as post-op therapy.


The Doc recomended vaccum hanging, stretching, and pumping.
 
penguinsfan said:
Most people say the pain gets worse after a few days. I mean, I hope it doesn't for you, but I'm just letting you know what I've heard.

I suspect that keeping up the post-surgery plan of treatment such as [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or hanging is essential to the success.

Keep us informed of the results! :)



Honestly the pain is worse when I have to use the bathroom, I know it's somewhat gross but when my bowels are full, it puts pressure where the incision is. It has been since early Friday and I haven't taken a pain killer today since it isn't bad at all.
 
Sparky 1 said:
Wineland. Thank the Lord I did not go with Rheinschild. I almost did when he was with TLE.
He was O.K. when he was at TLE, he had some guys watching over his shoulder. Are you from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words]?
 
Cool bro, I work with those guys all the time. I'm positive Wineland did a good job for you. Now rest up for 6 weeks, you'll have a lot of work to do after!
 
So far so good, yea Dan and Dr. Wineland are good people. They have taken great care of me so far.

I'm trying to rest, it's hard man I get so antsy
 
WOw ya, I don't feel so hot after reading this post, but it's interesting to say the least. Your stats were decent, did you really find that this was the best thing for you?!? I see the lengthing gave you 3/4'' in flaccid, we wonder how much of that will convert in erect, probably still to early to find out since it sounds painful to get an erection at the moment but probably in a month or less you can tell us. You said you've pe'd in the past, what was your routines like, with any luck, your length is(was decent), but your gonna be pretty big, with post op workouts.
The best of luck. and definetly keep us posted :)
 
sweets said:
WOw ya, I don't feel so hot after reading this post, but it's interesting to say the least. Your stats were decent, did you really find that this was the best thing for you?!? I see the lengthing gave you 3/4'' in flaccid, we wonder how much of that will convert in erect, probably still to early to find out since it sounds painful to get an erection at the moment but probably in a month or less you can tell us. You said you've pe'd in the past, what was your routines like, with any luck, your length is(was decent), but your gonna be pretty big, with post op workouts.
The best of luck. and definetly keep us posted :)


Why don't you feel so hot??

I did gain .75" in flaccid length, but remember when the penis is traumatized as much as it did, it retracts heavily. I do expect about an inch gain when I heal before post-op.

My routines were mostly manual stretches, jelqing maybe 2-3 times a week, and pumping with jelqing in between. I would also bathroom tug every time I urniated.

Thanks for the luck bud! I will keep you guys posted.
 
I myself am getting surgery done in the next couple months, length only, and i cannot wait to get it done. I got my vimax [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], my autoads and i been hand stretching, all i need is a hanger than ill be 100% ready. Im looking for the flaccid gains, i want a lower hanging flaccid more than anything. Def keep us posted man.
 
Well, i live in Pennsylvania, so there arnt many people around here that do it. Im looking at a person right now by the name of Doctor Solomon, i already got a consultation with him. He said i dont need it flat out, but i dont agree with him, i want a better flaccid hang, and 8 inches in erect length. Here is a link to his site and the Penis Enlargement section of his site.

http://www.marksolomonmd.com/procedures/index.php?name=surgery for men&type=penis enhancement


He said after a year of hanging weights and stretching, a 1.5 inch length gain in flaccid and .5 in erect which would put me at my ending goal size, he said the average is an inch which for me would be awesome.
 
I would highly recommend not going with someone just because they are close by. Research more Doc's and always get referrals.
 
Sparky 1 said:
I would highly recommend not going with someone just because they are close by. Research more Doc's and always get referrals.


I actually talked to people on the phone who he performed the surgery on and they were pretty happy with the results. I also researched this ALOT, and ive been talking to people on the phone from Phalocare for a little over a week now, i've been doing my homework.
 
wow, interesting stuff. i know alot of people think of getting this done so im going to ask the big question:- was it worth it? (no need to answer yet, when you have an erect measurement :P)
 
NewGuy311 said:
I actually talked to people on the phone who he performed the surgery on and they were pretty happy with the results. I also researched this ALOT, and ive been talking to people on the phone from Phalocare for a little over a week now, i've been doing my homework.


Awesome! If you want to talk sometime, I can just share with you my expereience. PM me, and I respond with my #.
 
Can't wait to see pictures of his work. I am so glad it went well for you.
 
I still cannot get the math to balance out no matter what. Around $13,000 to gain an average of 1-1.5" of erect length if youre lucky...and usually what...an inch in girth???
 
It's definitely not for everyone. Fortunately I am blessed financially. I do however have a super strong Ligament that was buried twice as much as anyone the Doctor or Dan has seen. This caused me to not gain anything with conventional P.E. I knew this already from my LOT.

Stillwantmore I am so happy to shell out the money, and would pay double for the results I have so far. I wish I could upload the pics but I don't have a USB cable. Already I have gained almost an inch in length (remember that my penis is retracted), and an inch and a half in flaccid girth. If anyone has gained that much in natural P.E. it took them a lot of work and time. Then, you ask yourself how valuable is your time, which I came to the conclusion that it would take at least 2 years of dedicated P.E. to gain anywhere close to this much, and I would much rather put that time into my profession.
 
Two G's to cut the lig eh? Have to keep that in the back of my mind. I take it the girth work is the most painful? Any pain from that lig being cut? Would erection angle change from that? Guess you will know.
 
against_odds21 said:
Two G's to cut the lig eh? Have to keep that in the back of my mind. I take it the girth work is the most painful? Any pain from that lig being cut? Would erection angle change from that? Guess you will know.



Typically it's an extra 2 g's when you couple it with the girth enhancement. Alone, it's about 5-6. I had an erection last night, and it was the same exact angle as before. The girth is the most painful. Not much pain at all from the lig being severed.
 
stillwantmore said:
I still cannot get the math to balance out no matter what. Around $13,000 to gain an average of 1-1.5" of erect length if youre lucky...and usually what...an inch in girth???

It's definitely a considerable chunk of change. I don't have anywhere near that kind of money sitting around to spend on such a thing. But if you have it and other Penis Enlargement techniques have seemingly yielded little it might be worth considering.
 
Oh no, don't get me wrong, were all very happy for you, I get ill cuz I'm human and would rather pull on my dick for 5-10 years and get natural gains.
NewGuy311, 311 has grassroots! you said your goal is 8'' so that means you have a 7"+ dick, I would do bad things for that size, but never let somebody cut my shit open, sorry! I think you could gain over time, even get over 8" naturally, think it deep, once it's done, you can't exactly get it lazered off like you could with a tatoo, many off us know that!-- Anyway pictures I difentely will be looking for, before(ecpecially) and after!!
 
sweets said:
Oh no, don't get me wrong, were all very happy for you, I get ill cuz I'm human and would rather pull on my dick for 5-10 years and get natural gains.
NewGuy311, 311 has grassroots! you said your goal is 8'' so that means you have a 7"+ dick, I would do bad things for that size, but never let somebody cut my shit open, sorry! I think you could gain over time, even get over 8" naturally, think it deep, once it's done, you can't exactly get it lazered off like you could with a tatoo, many off us know that!-- Anyway pictures I difentely will be looking for, before(ecpecially) and after!!


Sweets, im not sure if your aware of what exactly im going for. Im going for length only, meaning they dont even touch my penis, all their doing is cutting the suspensory ligament. Now, once this is done, ill see IMMEDIET length gains in flaccid and flaccid stretch, and thats when its going to be retracted a little, it wont be the end result. That means, ill be atleast 5.25 flaccid post op and i wont ever dip below 4.5 flaccid even when it shrivvles, now to me that sounds awesome and i have thought it through. Natural Penis Enlargement is cool and all, but its very time consuming, and quite frankly, i dont want to spend the next 2 or more years pulling on my dick to get it to 8 inches when i can get this done, achieve what i want in probably less than half the time, and get on with my life so i dont have to think about this stuff anymore.

Right now my dick ranges anywhere from 7-7.5 inches in erect length nbp depending on the conditions. I have a log in the pic section, feel free to check it some time. Now dont get me wrong, its a good size, but on me, it doesnt look all that big, to me it looks normal. My legs are enormous, and that overshadows it, esp when its soft. I struggle with flaccid size alot, and with NPenis Enlargement, i havnt seen anything realy in terms of flaccid length. Sure, i can stretch it out to 8 inches now and erect length its longer, but flaccid size hasnt realy moved up to what i want it to be, and to gain that last .5-.7 erect length its gonna take way to long. With the ligament cut, it will be what i want it to be and more, and after 6 months to a year, ill have exactly what i want, than i can stop all this Penis Enlargement stuff and do a small maintence routine once or twice a week at most. Esp being in the position im in right now, ill see a very good result being as how i been stretching the shit out of it for the past 7 months. My penis is conditioned, so im more than ready for the surgery.
 
NO doubt, I dread when my penga shrivels up, fucking turtling sucks, my body fat% is so low also, it doesn't look attractive at the least, but while not in a coma my flaccid has increased. I think even if someone has (with Penis Enlargement) increased their flaccid, will doing heavy excercises, or being hosed down, or sick, it'll always shrink down to your lowest piont, even if one did add on a couple of inches permanetly?!. I sincerely hope you the best, and having a
5''+ flaccid penis in your pants might spark some eyebrows for some like what the fuck, OK. Anyway their still taking a knife to your to where the lord split you, piont!
 
sweets said:
NO doubt, I dread when my penga shrivels up, fucking turtling sucks, my body fat% is so low also, it doesn't look attractive at the least, but while not in a coma my flaccid has increased. I think even if someone has (with Penis Enlargement) increased their flaccid, will doing heavy excercises, or being hosed down, or sick, it'll always shrink down to your lowest piont, even if one did add on a couple of inches permanetly?!. I sincerely hope you the best, and having a
5''+ flaccid penis in your pants might spark some eyebrows for some like what the fuck, OK. Anyway their still taking a knife to your to where the lord split you, piont!


Point is it will still be bigger period, and in a much faster period of time. Even when it shrivvles down, it will shrivvle, but it wont be nearly as small as it gets right now. It will never go below 4.5, maybe a little under, but it will always be 4 or over and 5-5 plus on a good day and with the end result, who knows. Also, i feel this is holding me back from doing alot of things, and i dont have time to yank my pud for 2 plus years, nor do i want to. Even so with surgical or natural Penis Enlargement, your still fucking with your manhood to make it bigger, so i realy dont see a difference. Plus, this lig cut will make stretching way more effective, and thats a fact. I appreciate your support, i know ill have a good result in the end, im not worried.
 
man putting your penis in a strangers hand takes big balls - id rather pe for
10 years and gain 1 inch rather than having someone cut my lig's

what about 10 years from now? what if you cant get it up? just like plastic
surgery . In time it goes south . i would never in a million years do what you
did. good luck , you will need it:blush:
 
jkisineffect said:
man putting your penis in a strangers hand takes big balls - id rather pe for
10 years and gain 1 inch rather than having someone cut my lig's

what about 10 years from now? what if you cant get it up? just like plastic
surgery . In time it goes south . i would never in a million years do what you
did. good luck , you will need it:blush:



Cutting a ligament is not going to cause impotence or erection problems, that comes with age. I've talked to several people already who have had this done whose erections are still the same, some better, and the changes in erection angle barely changed if at all. The length procedure is very safe, however the girth is something i would never consider.
 
NewGuy311 said:
I myself am getting surgery done in the next couple months, length only, and i cannot wait to get it done. I got my vimax [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], my autoads and i been hand stretching, all i need is a hanger than ill be 100% ready. Im looking for the flaccid gains, i want a lower hanging flaccid more than anything. Def keep us posted man.
Penis pills and jelqing???
 
goldmember said:
Penis pills and jelqing???


Your kidding right? Those gains are only temporary, esp jelqing. My flaccid looks good after jelqing but it deminishes shortly there after, same with stretching. My flaccid after a session can be as much as 5.5, than it goes away. Id rather not spend time doing those for temporary gains that last 10 minuts if that, and spend a little money and do something that will show real improvement, and see better improvement over a span of time with post op therapy that i know ill be keeping. I also dont want to waste money on pills, to me their stupid and ill never try a penis pill in my life. They are a joke. Atleast with this procedure, ill see immediet gains that will make my flaccid look alot better, and after a year of serious work, ill realy have something to be proud of and it will be permanent. Therefore, less time spent on Penis Enlargement, less time thinking about my penis, and the faster i can continue on a normal life. I dont want to be doing this kind of stuff seriously for more than another year, like i said it takes up to much time and i dont want to spend more time than needed.
 
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Hey Sparky, let us know if you want to continue long-term with manual Penis Enlargement and how it works for you. I bet the stretching techniques may yield more with the severed lig. ?:(
 
against_odds21 said:
Where do they make the incision to cut the lig? And do they put you under while they do it?


For length surgery they make an incision about an inch above the base of your penis, they dont even touch it. Yes, they do put you under Anestesia but some dont go totally under, some stay awake somehow.
 
penguinsfan said:
Hey Sparky, let us know if you want to continue long-term with manual Penis Enlargement and how it works for you. I bet the stretching techniques may yield more with the severed lig. ?:(


May yieled more? It WILL yield more, plain and simple and you will gain alot faster. Not to mention, gains will be totally permanent and small maintenence will be needed afterwards. Sounds very benificial if you ask me.
 
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