ELIMINATE premature-ejaculation quickly and forever!

Here is a PM disussion that me and Hangh had today that:

-discusse's some step's throughly and answer's some question's that a few might have...

-How to more "effectively" use the Reverse Keegle (for those who need it), based on Human Physiology... If you've had problem's with using the RK with Premature Ejaculation and even "Blasters", then you might want to check it out.

-It also show's how Hangh literally ELIMINATED his pre-ejac right away...between message's!





I saw your post on Pre-Ejac. I have one question tho...

Actually, you have 2 question's... ;) I'm a smart ass, aren't I ???
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Since I am still a virgin, You think this will be as beneficial to me?

Of course it will be beneficial to you, as long as you plan on doin some chick in the future... you can use this to help prepare you mentaly and physically for your first time...you'll be well ahead of the pack as far as performance goes, for novice's/intermediate's... and even beyond :D


The other question is, What if you can only go 10 minutes and then you feel you can't avoid cumming? Should you stop there or how do you work up to 30min?

Ahhhhh...this is where alot of people mess up... Their is a very simple solution to this and I'm going to tell it to you right now...

It is VERY IMPORTANT that you start decreasing the stimulation BEFORE YOU GET TO THE "EDGE"....NOT after you reach it! The reason being, is because, if you reach to far into the "edge" then you are training yourself to reach the edge... and we all know what happen's after that...you fall! does that make since?

So, to reiterate, before you even start feeling like you are on the "edge"...like you are about to reach the "edge"...start to decrease the stimulation (pace/tightness).

I think I went over this in the thread, so you might want to go back over it...ahh hell, go back over the whole thread, to pick up some information you might have missed...

If you have any other question regarding this...or anything else, please don't hesitate to ask...


Peace



Well that's the thing! I start to slow the pace way before I reach the edge, But when i'm doing the act my PC muscle contracts by itself and that in turn makes me cum faster. Sometimes I can go a bit longer tho and sometimes i'm there really fast, no matter what I do. Any advice?

Yes, I've got some advice...first, you say that your pc muscle contract's in a "sponanious" manner no matter what? ...I would say that the best thing for you to do is STOP IT...you can do this by using an RK (reverse-keegle)...since that is the best method to relaxe the PC muscle...It is very important when you are using an RK, that you do the RK slowely and not explosively. The reason being, is because, if you do it explosively, your bodie's natural "reflex" (natural protection mechanism) will kick in and defeat the purpose by contracting it immediatly after you attemp the RK. Same thing as if you (or a friend) extend your arm too fast, you might notice that your bicep kick's in and keep's you from hyper extending your elbow... it's a naturall protection mechanism... Go slowely, and you should notice that it work's pretty damm good for this minor obstacle you're facing...

Also, are you really using the visualization and the "intent" of pleasing a girl? If not, then you are probably focusing "too much" on your own stimulation...you need to concentrate/visualize pleasing a girl while thinking about lasting long.

Now, I know this might sound silly, but you need to have this view of yourself, in your mind, as you are doing the SMD, as an "alpha male"...you need to believe that you are THE STUD, and you can please any women you want... it DOES NOT matter who she is...and it DOES NOT matter how long it takes...you are going to ride her like a champion race horse untill she's done...

If you "imagine" yourself like that, durring the exercise, then you'll have fun with this...and your mind will bring you there in reality... A pschological process know to some as a "self fulfilling prophecy" in a way. Their is a very concrete psychology behind this natural "phenomenon"... To keep it simple, let's just leave it at that ;)

After a few session's of getting the rytHydromax of this exercise down, you'll start to get better at it, and you'll notice that you won't even think of it as a "pre-ejac exercise"...but instead, it will be your daily "ego and pleasure session"...you'll enjoy it...and it will improve your attitude and your overall confidence with women...in and out of the bedroom...

Let me know if this help's or not...

Peace

Hey dude,

I just did exactly all that you said before I even read it. Just did a 40 min session right now.. I did 30min imagining and finished it off with some adult entertainment ;) And when I switched to adult entertainment I noticed how easy it was to not cum so I did it for 10 more minutes. I'll never stress to ejac anymore, that's no good!

Thanks :)

That's awesome!

Would you mind if I post'd this entire discussion in my pre-ejac thread? It might answer alot of same or similar problem's for other's.


Sure, Now i'm going to sleep! :)
 
Yah! Just did a 45min session. It's the hardest the first 15-20 minutes then it gets easy, I dunno why? Does anyone else experience this? I can basically dance at the edge when i've done 30 minutes. And if I stand up and do it then it's really easy to reverse kegel and not cum... What do you people say?

Cheers
 
Yeah the reverse kegel is definitely the key IMO. Good stuff man.
 
I always had this problem. And so I figured I'd share what's helped me. I started looking and found a lot of info, but for instance, i downloaded the book on multiple male orgasms, and I just don't know about this concept of whole body orgasms. I like the way orgasms feel now, I just don't want it to happen too quick.

I wanteded a quick fix with my new girlfriend, and I'll tell you what things have helped me the most as a short term solution. Masturbating about an hour before takes the edge off as far as getting too excited too quick. The second thing, is breathing. Now there is a lot of info regarding breathing, as in tantric sex, but I am not at this point really that interested in delving that deep into tantric, but breathing techniques I have found has been very helpful.

Now, since I am not into overcomplicated techniques that require some kind of deep inner experience, I basically just came up with my own simple technique. Simply put, breathe deeply and slowly to relax a little and bring the excitement level down a notch when you start getting close. I usually have to slow down on the thrusting at this point. I never realized before I started consciously doing this, how when i was getting close, that I was hardly breathing at all, nearly holding my breath completely and that is bad. When you hold your breath, you are tensing up and ensuring the inevitable. So if you slow down, and consciously breath long deep breaths, you can relax your body enough that you will bring the excitement back down to a manageable level.

I have found that breathing through my nose, and focusing on the air going in and out helps too. Nothing deep here, just simply taking the focus off of being so excited that you want to blow just long enough to get control. I can still look in her eyes, or look at her body and maintain a connection, and bring things under control. I hate when people say think about baseball, because what's the point if you can't think about and enjoy what you are doing?

Reverse keegling has been another thing that has helped, at least I think that's what I'm doing - I honestly have trouble really differentiating them from normal keegle. The only way I can explain what I am doing, it's almost like trying to force yourself to come, to the point to where you are trying so hard, that it doesn't happen. A reverse keegle, if that is indeed what I am doing, is kind of like when you are taking a leak, and you are trying to force out that last little bit. Anyway, for whatever reason, it helps, and the nice thing, is that i keep a good erection, not 100% which is not what you want, because at 100% as I would define it, you are basically at or very near your point of no return. One note though, the longer I go, the easier it gets, until I am at nearly a constant 100% erection and still able to maintain control.

The last thing, which I believe is the hardest to get control over, is that most of it is in your mind. If you think you can't last long, you won't, plain and simple. Sounds easy enough, just stop thinking that you can't last long, and you will. But it's just not that simple. But the above techniques have helped me out enough that I got more and more confident, and really started believing that I could last as long as I wanted. I am now to the point, to where I can last pretty much as long as I want - not indefinitely, but at least I won't be accused of being a minute man.
 
Speaking of Ron Jeremy I saw an old clip of him lying on his back waiting for some girl to start riding him and he was literally bouncing his dick a full 180 degrees. He was bouncing it off his stomach and then back down toward his leg. I was pretty amazed when I saw that. He must have very strong PC muscles. Anybody ever seen that? Wrangler
 
thedash, you make a good point! I remember reading somewhere the benefit's of "good" breathing and how it can help with sexual performance as well as overall more energy throughout the day (I think it was in a fitness mag... but I'm not sure). Thank's for sparkin my memory.

In edition to what you've stated with the breathing, it's also important to make sure you are breathing in/around your stomach/solarplex and not your chest. Alot of people make the mistake of breathing with thier chest puffing up, but that is incorrect. The most effecient way to breath is through your stomach and/or solarplex.

Peace
 
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Slicedbeef, thanks for that tip, i haven't really been paying attention to that, so i don't know if I've been breathing correctly or not. Anything that is good for your overall general health, will benefit you sexually.
 
I just did this and could only go about four minutes. Maybe it is cause I haven't ejaculated in a few days but I was thinking about the chick and got so turned on.
 
damn just tried this,i wanted to see if it worked right away. And it actually worked,usually in a jerk session i last about 15 minutes(with breaks) when i did it today tryin this technique i lasted 30 with no breaks constant jerk and coulda lasted longer but jackin off for an hour just seems wrong,cant wait to try this with my girl. I think its gonna take time tho,i really dont like the idea of having to jerk for an hour daily to do this,but i guess its just like Penis Enlargement.Id just rather use that hour stretching cuz i really would hate to spend 2 hrs of my day devoted to my dick.
 
Now i am trying this, but the Thermogenics are causing me to ejaculate
quicker than a cowboy in an old western. I have a goal of fast fat loss
so how can i compromise?

Maybe Embrace the difficulty? And maybe its better that its harder?

the thermo is causing major warmth down there at the same time half assing my erections and quickening my cumming.
 
ey man thanks alot of this info, even if i don't know you. You're a person who has changed my life and i appreciate what you have shared with us!
 
Let me say that this is FU#@%ng awesome stuff!!! I really like it , and most important of all i can fit prefectly in the example that u gave... and after i read it i remember that in fact when i was more young i wasent like this ("shoting fast" type). Tks a lot.
 
SLICEDBEEF said:
Part 3

Ok, before I go into how to use the STUD-MAKER-DRILL, I'm going to cover the 3 level's of stimulation... wich is another essential in following the STUD-MAKER-DRILL.

DESENSITIZING...3 LEVELS OF STIMULATION

You may have very low tolerance to stimulation when you're horny. You may be the type of guy that creams your pant's if a woman just brushes up against you. Or you may have enough tolerance to last a whopping 1 minute inside of a girl. From all the concentration that you've put on pleasing yourself and getting off as quick as possible, you have develped a very low tolerance for stimulation. Let's reverse that!

There are 2 types of stimulation that we are going to manipulate so we can, in essence, desensitize are self from the stimulation. There is one type of stimulation (#3) that we are going to use consistently durring the SMD so we don't fool are mind's. Here they are:

ONE
Tightness. This has to do with the tightness of the grip/girl. Most people are more sensitive to the stimulation when they tighten their grip (to a certain extent) or the girl they are having sex with is tighter. They will end up blowing their load faster

TWO
Speed. This has to do with how fast you are screwing the girl...or your hand. Most pople will shoot a load faster if they pick up the pace.

THREE
Fantasizing...or Imagination. This has to do with how you fantasize having sex with a girl. This can include sexual positions, types of girls, associated/disassociated from the fantasy, etc.
You will be able to visualize yourself in a 1st, 2nd or 3rd person view. 1st person simply means that you are not seeing yourself but you are actually visualizing yourself in the moment, with the girl...you are completely associated with the experience. Typically, this will cause you to shoot your load faster. 2nd person mean's that you're visualizing yourself from a spot, maybe a few feet away or visualizing just one body part of the girl (pussy, tit's, ass, etc.). 3rd person simply means that, for example, you see yourself from across the room. I'll note that we will have no need for the 2nd or 3rd person visualization. We will use only the 1st person visualization durring the SMD as well as different sexual positions, types of girls, etc.

Part 4... THE STUD-MAKER-DRILL...Coming up next.
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great one, thanks!
 
This post has been great and really works. Here is another tip that has worked wonders for myself. Use it in conjunction with all the other ideas you have learned here, such as thinking about pleasing the woman, rather than yourself.

Every time you are about to reach the "point of no return", pinch yourself. Not too hard, just enough to feel a slight sting. I know, this may sound foolish to many of you, but doing this simple little thing while having sex or while masturbating can stop premature ejaculation forever. It's based off of a punisHydromaxent/reward system. If you find yourself pinching too much, say 10 times, completely stop and try again later. I hope this helps some guys out.
 
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