I experiemented today with a very short, and I mean short set, of condom pumping with pretty intense pressure at around 15 hg. It felt really good, as I felt a deep stretch in the tunica and also at the base. I can't say if it's good or bad, but I've read that condom pumping can help with fluid buildup and having excessively loose skin. I might try some higher Hg pumping sessions in the next few days to see if this is an ok thing to do. I did this experiement after my session today and I had to try on a condom to see which one fit me best. I decided to leave the condom on and try it in the pump, and as I said I think it might be something to try.
Condom Pumping and Increased Tube Pressure
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Ive never heard of that, but it sounds interesting. I guess the condom, like you already said, could limit the amount of superficial fluid buildup...
Interesting...keep us posted.
Well, I tried this again yesterday after my 3 sets of standard pumping and it worked pretty well. I stayed pretty large and swollen after my session and the effect it had on my length in tube was phenomenal. I was measuring at close to 8.5 when I was around 12 Hg and I would drop to 3Hg and I was still around 7" in tube. It's going to be a while before I can say this is a good practice or not but it does seem to be effective so far, but I'll keep at it and see what happens.
REDZULU2003
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I have heard this before, that wearing a condom can limit fluid buildup and make one have more pressure on the penis than normally and hence attack it more harder than you could normally.
From what I have noticed with condom pumping the higher Hg levels doesn't cause as much fluid buildup because the skin and tissue is being compressed in the opposite direction while the CCs and CS are expanding internally. It's very intense, and I believe worth while although I think it might get expensive if you have to keep taking the condoms off to jelq in between sets.
REDZULU2003
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Do you get any splits during a sesison? or do they adapt well under the stress
stillwantmore
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This "condom pumping" is definitely something I will look into when I get my hand pump for the "Velseal" tube I got from pumptoys.com. Hope to have my hand pump in about a week. DAMN, I can already imagine how intense my girth sessions will be when I'm clamping first, then pumping!
Millionman, do the condoms need to be "tight"? In other words, if I wear Magnum XL size normally, should I try this with "regular" size?
Millionman, do the condoms need to be "tight"? In other words, if I wear Magnum XL size normally, should I try this with "regular" size?
My attempts have been with slightly smaller condoms, as I usually where Magnum XLs, so I've been using Magnums. It seems to matter, but only to a point. What I mean is that with a smaller more snug condom there is less chance of the higher Hg levels pulling it off while in the tube, or when you are milking the tube. The smaller condom also will help with a higher level of compression against the skin swell that would normally fill with fluid. All in all I'd say try it that way for a bit, and then if you feel so compelled maybe try an XL or possibly a regular for an even tighter fit, but I imagine this being entirely too uncomfortable.
ya i read about this over at thunder's a while back. But as with almost every thread there, it was nearly a gazilliziion pages long and i fell asleep before I could get half way through it.
I'm wondering though. Pumping's ONLY upside is the temporary girth gains it produces through the fluid build up. Now you're taking that fluid build up away, how is that gonna help pumping? ?
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but with that said, I'm guessing we should try 'condom Clamping' to keep the fluid build up MINIMAL. Hydromaxmm, food for thought. :blush:
gold, swm, red, and vkay.... to the Clamp Mobile!!!
I'm wondering though. Pumping's ONLY upside is the temporary girth gains it produces through the fluid build up. Now you're taking that fluid build up away, how is that gonna help pumping? ?
?but with that said, I'm guessing we should try 'condom Clamping' to keep the fluid build up MINIMAL. Hydromaxmm, food for thought. :blush:
gold, swm, red, and vkay.... to the Clamp Mobile!!!
Actually, pumping is as viable as clamping or any other type of manual work. There is SOME fluid buildup when pumping, but if kept moderate this effect will in and of itself be at a minimum. The larger hang and flaccid size has more to do with more BLOOD being contained withint the penis, just like with other forms of Penis Enlargement. Condom pumping is a method in which guys with problems with fluid buildup to some extent can control this problem. I know there aren't many pumpers here at all, but it is a very good and efficient method of Penis Enlargement. It just really depends on how much time you have to put in, and what you expect out of it. I think most guys think pumping is going to make their dick absolutely monsterous the first time in tube, and it's just NOT going to happen. It's all about patience.
I haven't had the time to pump here recently, but it is a part of my routine usually once to twice a week, along with manual stretching and clamping. Sometimes the pumping gets sidelined strictly because of preparation time and clean up time. It can be a bit time consuming with 10 minute sets and 200 jelqs in between, erect massages, and back in tube. As I like to say, rinse lather and repeat. The TOTAL amount of time Penis Enlargementing across the whole span of a week is much less than I normally do when stretching, clamping, or manuals, and that for me is exactly what I need.
I haven't had the time to pump here recently, but it is a part of my routine usually once to twice a week, along with manual stretching and clamping. Sometimes the pumping gets sidelined strictly because of preparation time and clean up time. It can be a bit time consuming with 10 minute sets and 200 jelqs in between, erect massages, and back in tube. As I like to say, rinse lather and repeat. The TOTAL amount of time Penis Enlargementing across the whole span of a week is much less than I normally do when stretching, clamping, or manuals, and that for me is exactly what I need.
REDZULU2003
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Yeah, great advice ... pumping is a powerful tool to the pe'er and I belive that shane diesel even pumps to get his girth that extra thickness before shoots ... why not? pays his bills.
Cant wait to hit my new routine, just focusing on my body right now.
Cant wait to hit my new routine, just focusing on my body right now.
You can't speculate how effective pumping will be in conjunction with Penis Enlargement specially if you've never pumped before.
Pumping in itself fatigues you, and vaccum does cause tissue damage. An experienced pumper just uses enough of it to minimize the damage. And take a look at tigerpumping.com. Those guys have been pumping for years, and what do they have to show for it?
Pumping in itself fatigues you, and vaccum does cause tissue damage. An experienced pumper just uses enough of it to minimize the damage. And take a look at tigerpumping.com. Those guys have been pumping for years, and what do they have to show for it?
stillwantmore
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Vaseline_Knight said:
AH, but HOW are they pumping? Are they pumping for gains? Mostly not. Most of them are into the homo-erotic-fetish side of pumping. Their main focus is to pump their balls/penis as large as possible (fluid buildup big time!) for the sake of showing off. Thats mostly all. As a new pumper, and one who will be ONLY pumping, and on a daily, very consistent routine...I am optimistic that I can make permanent gains. Time will tell, but I'm optimistic about it.
longstretch said:
It just feels right to me to pump after a good day of hanging for a few hours with a few hundred jelqs. Pumping for six sets an hour while I do homework or something after all of this, I can just "feel" it repairing. After I'm out of the pump my penis is quite fatigued, stays quite pumped, and feels very good and theraputic. I'm sure it is helping me gain, also in girth, which I don't have much time to do anymore because of my college schedule.
It's great, whenever I'm not getting great wood I can just pump for 3 sets of 10 and come out of the pump with a nice 6.25" girth that is useable and doesn't really look like fluid buildup. Three or four sets at 10 minutes from 2-4 hg produces the best "non-pumped pump" look and feel for me.
I ordered the big man pump on Friday... the same time I ordered the max-vac. I used to jelq while reading textbooks while I was in high school. I will still do that as soon as my hanger comes in. I bought this sex book at Barnes and Noble and sometimes I read this while I jelqed. So I'm kinda looking forward to reading this while I pump. I plan on using a blake bleeder pump I saw online since the big man doesn't have a gauge. My girth is 5.5 sometimes a little thicker. If I was to do condom pumping what size condom would you guys recommend, at what pressure, and for how long.
I think 10inch is right in saying you should pump without the fluid buildup look. I do think by getting the blood in the penis it will enrich all the micro-tears with nutrients. I am so excited and can't wait for everything to come in so I can get to work. I especially can't wait to Christmas break so I can do some intense routines with my body and my dick.
I think 10inch is right in saying you should pump without the fluid buildup look. I do think by getting the blood in the penis it will enrich all the micro-tears with nutrients. I am so excited and can't wait for everything to come in so I can get to work. I especially can't wait to Christmas break so I can do some intense routines with my body and my dick.
longstretch said:
During Chritmas break it's going down. I have a feeling the girth side of my dick is going to get a verrrrrrrrry good workout since I'll have a lot of time on my hands.
longstretch, It should be fine, for non-sex purposes, to get a bit of fluid buildup during a moderate set. I usually go for 6 x 10 min sets at least 3 times a week. I define this as moderate for myself, where I usually start at 2 hg and work up to 4 or a max of 5 hg, which is pretty low compared to what experienced pumpers will use. However, I think keeping it in this range promotes growth instead of shocking the penis to shrink with higher pressure.
After 4 hg it really stops feeling theraputic for me and my penis starts feeling like "Oh no here we go" with the expansion feeling. The vacu-tech guys know what they're talking about, they told me "you shouldn't really need to go beyond 4 hg, it should feel really good and pleasurable, that'll promote the most bloodflow and overall gains versus all those guys who just try to pump to the max everytime. Plus, since you do jelqing and clamping, that'll just help out your girth even more with tissue repair and such." I'll trust the vacu-tech guys, they've been at it for 20 something years. Lower pressure for growth, higher pressure to get freakish/show off.
I rarely ever do maxing out sessions to get to monster girths. When I do though I always use water as it counteracts the side effects of vacuum on the skin. The largest I have gotten from a 3 hour long girth session full of clamping, jelqing, and pumping, was 7 1/4 mseg. Yes I could get hard but that thing was scary as hell. Somehow I got the buildup to be uniform and I didn't get a bad donut at all and it looked more natural than other sessions. I don't think I used water for that set either. Most of the girth gain was from being in the clamp for something like 45 minutes. The pump didn't add much at the time as it was only my third month of pumping. Clamping for 2 hours then pumping for an hour will give you a sick girth.
I'd recommend not doing max out sessions like the one I just described more than once every two months.
Hmmmm....Vacu-tech? I've never heard of them before. Any more info on them?
Anyway, as far as pumping goes for Penis Enlargement it's supposed to be used in conjunction with a basic manual program. Avocet8 over at thunder's makes a good point about the primary goal of Penis Enlargement is to have more of what you have and not to get all the "extras" that come along with it, like discoloration and extra skin. I don't mind this as much, but as I've taken a more moderate approach to my Penis Enlargement routine I have less and less skin growth and even less bruising and discoloration along my shaft. Even when I have fairly lengthy session I don't have many if any problems. Moderation is key to progress, and that's a safe rule for EVERYONE to follow, because most of the guys here are going to look to DLD for the example but he is not the RULE. I think there are many many men who come here expecting gains like his or to be able to perform routines like his. He's like the 1% of Penis Enlargementers that can gain on 7 days one off. Take it easy and be patient and you'll grow.
Anyway, as far as pumping goes for Penis Enlargement it's supposed to be used in conjunction with a basic manual program. Avocet8 over at thunder's makes a good point about the primary goal of Penis Enlargement is to have more of what you have and not to get all the "extras" that come along with it, like discoloration and extra skin. I don't mind this as much, but as I've taken a more moderate approach to my Penis Enlargement routine I have less and less skin growth and even less bruising and discoloration along my shaft. Even when I have fairly lengthy session I don't have many if any problems. Moderation is key to progress, and that's a safe rule for EVERYONE to follow, because most of the guys here are going to look to DLD for the example but he is not the RULE. I think there are many many men who come here expecting gains like his or to be able to perform routines like his. He's like the 1% of Penis Enlargementers that can gain on 7 days one off. Take it easy and be patient and you'll grow.
millionman said:
I got my system from them. They have some quality tubes and a lot of experience. They taper their tubes and can custom make them for you. LA Pumps and Vacu-tech seem to be the two best-known tube makers in the Penis Enlargement community.
About your moderation approach, when I hear "moderation" it seems like, yes, "slow and steady", but I don't want "slow", even if it's the expense of my skin color and such. I don't think people that seriously want to gain should take a moderate approach. I'll have plenty of time to let the discoloration go away once I reach my goal. Until then, I'll take BigGirtha's saying of "I'm going for big, I don't care about pretty." There's always plenty of time to heal and such after you reach your goals, especially since I'm only 18. I bet girls would wonder what is up with my dick though, it's pretty beat-up looking.
stillwantmore2 said:
based on what are you optimistic?
I appreciate your point of view on the whole 'homo-erotic-fetish' thing and I agree with it. Perhaps they don't do it properly. But you can't generate the pressure you generate with clamping with a pump. Of that I'm certain.
Speaking of which, you're giving up NPenis Enlargement and Clamping?
Since you guys are talking about girth I've gained girth very easily doing manual squeezes (uli's I think) and supra slammers but mostly manual squeezes. To me girth has been very easy to gain. I would only go after girth after I reach my length goal or came close to it. Besides all the girl's that seen it was like "wow that's really thick. Your gonna tear me up." Probably why I'm still a virgin.:s I'm at 5.5 EG. If I was really looking to gain girth I could see how pumping would help. I could pump up an erection and then do some squeezes and then repeat. As long as I got 15-20 min of squeezes in. That's all it takes for me. I think like 10inch has said if use low pressure and not allow too much fluid buildup pumping can be a great supplement to Penis Enlargement. does anyone know what size condom I would use if I wanted to try condom pumping. I'm a virgin and never used a condom so I'm not sure. Like I said I'm a little above 5.5 EG.
longstretch said:
I think the conventional wisdom for condom pumping is to get a tight condom to compress more fluids, in that case you should get a regular condom. Magnums would be the correct condom to get with your midshaft girth. At 5.75" I'd move to the Trojan Magnum XL.
longstretch said:
wow girls say ur gonna tear them up at 5.5" girth? Hydromaxm maybe some of us in 6+ club should stop girth work and reconsider this.
but then again, i live for 'tearing' them up... not literally... but its great to know it hurts them when you put it in.. :s ... back to the clamps boys
Yeah at 5.5 my girth is as big as a paper towel roll. Actually bigger because I'm more at 5.6 sometimes 5.7...but who's counting. My dream girth is to be 6.5. I think I could settle for 6 but I wouldn't want to be bigger than 6.5. If I reach 6.5 EG I'll see....7EG might be too tempting.
Does anyone here do uli's or squeezes or supra slammers for girth. Clamps scare the shit out of me. I know a lot will probably clamp while they pump with a condom but does anyone wait till after pumping and then do some squeezes.
Does anyone here do uli's or squeezes or supra slammers for girth. Clamps scare the shit out of me. I know a lot will probably clamp while they pump with a condom but does anyone wait till after pumping and then do some squeezes.
longstretch said:
I find girth work AFTER pumping to be highly ineffective. Fluid between the skin collapses the Tunica, and reduces internal pressure.
Manual before automatic(pumping). What Vaseline said. The wall-clamp-style pumping looks promising though, two exercises in one! The ultimate lazy-man's true guaranteed-to-gain pumping Penis Enlargement(this theory not yet thoroughly tested).
Well got my big man's pump today. Gonna try condom pumping and let you know how it goes. I'm still waiting for my max-vac though.
I did two 30 secs sets of uli's and then I did two 10 min sets of condom pumping. I proceded to jack off with the pump which is not as fun as I thought. Went and cleaned the pump out and water pumped in the bath tub. I did get some fluid build up but I did not notice it till after the water pumping. This was my first time pumping so I did not know what exactly to expect. After I peed most of the fluid buildup went away.
I think this is a good routine. Since I'm a newbie I think i'll just do one set of condom pumping and one set of water pumping for a while until my dick gets used to the pump.
I think this is a good routine. Since I'm a newbie I think i'll just do one set of condom pumping and one set of water pumping for a while until my dick gets used to the pump.
LS since you are a newbie what kind of Hg are you using without the condom, and what kind of pressure are you using with the condom?
I'm a newbie to pumping not to Pe. I'm coming back from a long break. I Don't know how much hg i'm using yet. The big man's pump just comes with a ball pump. I'm going to buy a pump with a gauge as soon as I get some more cheddar. I try to use the least amount of suction. Maybe 2-3 pumps. I might have to do partial pumps throughout the session but I keep the vacuum low.
Vaseline_Knight said:
I think this is a critical point that needs to be answered: If pumping causes "tissue damage" as you say, then should Penis Enlargement'ers be doing it in the first place? And does regular Penis Enlargementing cause tissue damage compared to pumping?
PS- I'm not trying to scare off anyone into not Penis Enlargementing. I'm just trying to find out if tissue damage is a normal part of penis growth? Stupid question I suppose...?
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??? said:I think this is a critical point that needs to be answered: If pumping causes "tissue damage" as you say, then should Penis Enlargement'ers be doing it in the first place? And does regular Penis Enlargementing cause tissue damage compared to pumping?
PS- I'm not trying to scare off anyone into not Penis Enlargementing. I'm just trying to find out if tissue damage is a normal part of penis growth? Stupid question I suppose...?
That's actually a very good point. THE point to discuss while guaging different Penis Enlargement methods. If in fact tissue damage is the key to penile growth, then the more extreme methods should work the best. Hell while you're at it, get some1 to run over your dick with a bike after each Penis Enlargement session.
My experience has been (and I haven't yet reached concrete standing on this point) that growth happens when enough stress is applied to the tissue to signal the 'need' for growth, but not enough to cause the body to treat the stress as an injury. I find that if anything after extreme sessions, I actually get smaller and retract. That's our body's way of minimizing any further damage.
So to answer your question, pumping still remains a valid Penis Enhancement method (not Penis Enlargement necessarily) although I cannot vote for its permanency.
REDZULU2003
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This condom pumping is something I'll be trying in the months ahead ... seems very promosing indeed.