I am completely new in every aspect of Penis Enlargement, never having done an excercise, or posting on forums. But I've heard great things, and if anyone would take the time, maybe a few minutes to chat with me on IM or replying to this thread, that would be much appreciated. Things such as, where to start, how to get the excercises, what routines to do for a beginner... anything would be great. Thanks!
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Hi, welcome to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] LuckyLuke, you have definatley come to the right place, the best place to start is DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] (stick at the top of this forum) and if you have any questions then just ask.
LuckyLuke said:Thanks... but what is a jelq?? And are there any risks of doing Penis Enlargement? Also, how long should I use that routine, and is there any soreness, as with excercising other muscles? What about masterbation or sex? So many questions... sorry <
Some quick answers man, keep your questions coming
they are all welcomeA jelq is basically a controlled massage of your penis. As a quick overview (get the full info elsewhere) you make an OK sign with your hand and slip your dick through, you squeeze the base of your penis to trap blood, and pull the hand towards the top of your penis, pushing the blood along. Very simple to do once you get the hang of.
There are risks of doing Penis Enlargement. But its like the risks of lifting weights in a gym. If you take the time to learn what you are doing, practice gently, ask questions etc you will be safe. On the other hand if you jump right in and go far too hard too fast, you will likely hurt yourself and discourage yourself from coming back for more. Make sure you learn to walk before running
Soreness varies for people, but you should get some feeling of fatigue in your penis. Actual soreness would be a sign to take a day off or recheck what you are doing.
Masturbation is 100% fine. The penis will get aroused as you start Penis Enlargement as it will think it is playtime. Some people masturbate an hour before PR so the penis is more calm, while many wait until after to do it. There is no real anecdotal evidence to show it hurts recovery or growth at all.
Sex is similar, although i think generally a night when you are having sex is a night you wont Penis Enlargement.
Hi Lucky,
the best recommendation i can give you about DLDs newbie program is the one i am about to give you, simply;
That i am on it myself Currently on week 4.
You should stick at it for 6 weeks minimum. Listen to your body during that time and adapt the length. I am currently thinking of adding another week to it, and taking 2 days off a week instead of the current 1 as after week 2 the number of jelqs you do goes up to 600 (from 300) and i'm finding it enjoyable but tiring on my penis. Things grow best when well rested so thats why i am thinking of scaling things back a little.
the best recommendation i can give you about DLDs newbie program is the one i am about to give you, simply;
That i am on it myself
Currently on week 4.You should stick at it for 6 weeks minimum. Listen to your body during that time and adapt the length. I am currently thinking of adding another week to it, and taking 2 days off a week instead of the current 1 as after week 2 the number of jelqs you do goes up to 600 (from 300) and i'm finding it enjoyable but tiring on my penis. Things grow best when well rested so thats why i am thinking of scaling things back a little.
LuckyLuke said:
I would say no. You are about to do something unlike anything your body has experienced and you should respect that. Learn the basics before trying anything else.
Would you build a house without laying foundations? Think of it like that.
There are many people who stick with the basics and grow well. Others jump right into other things you will read about on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] and they too grow well. So there is no one easy answer.
The main thing is to;
Get a plan
START
adapt slowly
listen to your body
Again, dont hesitate to ask more Q's my friend
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Yeah DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] is definitely a great way to start. I wish I knew about it when I first started Penis Enlargement. I wouldn't do anything different than that routine for at least the first 6 weeks like levista said.
For a great way to learn ejaculation control, click the link in my signature, or go to the Sexuality forum and click my thread called "Killing pre-ejac." It's very easy to do once you know how to reverse kegel. And you can go for as long as you want and YOU decide when to cum. Good stuff.
For a great way to learn ejaculation control, click the link in my signature, or go to the Sexuality forum and click my thread called "Killing pre-ejac." It's very easy to do once you know how to reverse kegel. And you can go for as long as you want and YOU decide when to cum. Good stuff.
Welcome to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and good luck with your routine Luke. You are gonna love the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]. I too am uncircumsised and I don't bother about getting too much skin. Just get an appropriate level of erection and jelq it away. You won't get larger amount of foreskin if you do it right.
I too am uncut, and i feel its just a matter of not pulling on the foreskin too much during the Jelq. Of course everyone has a different amount of foreskin, but in general i would think as long as you are not getting a good tug on it when at the end of your jelq (hand is at the head) you shouldnt have problems.
Worst case scenario is you do get larger foreskin to go with your new bigger dick
Worst case scenario is you do get larger foreskin to go with your new bigger dick
LuckyLuke said:
As a newbie and as someone doing the nice safe DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] phase 1, i found no probs doing 6 days on, 1 day off. I would suggest that or the 5/2 split if you can find regular time most days to do this stuff.
Bear in mind you can split it over the day or do it all together as i do.
Honest answer is no one knows what is best for anyone else though. Best to get started and listen to what your body tells you. You should not find the phase 1 program exhausting though, so a day or two a week off should be plenty.
LuckyLuke said:
I know its natural to think "how fast, how fast, how fast " LOL we all do it! But ask yourself this, when you hit your goals are you going to stop? Likely no. You will likely set another goal, and when you hit it, are you going to stop? Likely no. So you can see you'll be Penis Enlargement'ing for the majority of the rest of your life probably.
Try thinking of it as a marathon, not a sprint
Hey again guys... I just finished my first day, and was kind of disappointed. I don't know why... during the stretches, am I supposed to feel anything? It just seemed I was pulling it as far as I could... and with the Jelqs, I only went for about 10 minutes, because 1) didn't want to overdo it, and 2) I kept getting softer and softer. Should I be maintaining an 80% erection the whole time? And should I make sure the drag takes 2 seconds? Sorry guys, trying to get on the right track!
Hi LuckyLuke,
Sounds fine to me. With stretches you never feel as if your penis is growing before your very eyes. I know with me it feels like i am tugging on a fairly solid object like a brick or something. I am in my fourth week and only now experiencing sensations after my stretches which i am trying to understand. But basically no, dont look for an incredible "growing" feeling on every stretch. This is why Penis Enlargement is a long term thing, you keep doing it and then one day you measure and its bigger
Good to see you are limiting your Jelqs in the early days. Using a set time or number of reps is a good technique to help consistency, you want to be at least maintaining the workload on your penis and slowly building it up.
Maintaining that near-erection is hard, no doubt about it. Pause in your jelqs every now and then, slap your penis about a bit to get circulation going, and then play with yourself a little to help get it back, then continue to jelq.
Everything sounds great so far LuckyLuke, keep at it Months from now you will look back at your first day and be so glad you started
Sounds fine to me. With stretches you never feel as if your penis is growing before your very eyes. I know with me it feels like i am tugging on a fairly solid object like a brick or something. I am in my fourth week and only now experiencing sensations after my stretches which i am trying to understand. But basically no, dont look for an incredible "growing" feeling on every stretch. This is why Penis Enlargement is a long term thing, you keep doing it and then one day you measure and its bigger
Good to see you are limiting your Jelqs in the early days. Using a set time or number of reps is a good technique to help consistency, you want to be at least maintaining the workload on your penis and slowly building it up.
Maintaining that near-erection is hard, no doubt about it. Pause in your jelqs every now and then, slap your penis about a bit to get circulation going, and then play with yourself a little to help get it back, then continue to jelq.
Everything sounds great so far LuckyLuke, keep at it
Months from now you will look back at your first day and be so glad you started Hah, of course I just thought of another question right after I posted... But during stretches, It kind of feels like I could rip the head off my dick... just a fear right? Or am I holding it wrong? And during the jelqs, which Im almost sure my technique needs work, the head feels like its going to explode at the end of the drag. Normal right? 
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).LuckyLuke said:Thanks so much guys... feel like old brothers. One more thing... During the stretching... is there rest time? And is there rest time between the excercises? Such as between stretching, jelqing, testicle health etc?
Good question this one, and i would say its an individual preference. Between each set of stretches, i find a good mp3 to play (i do this thing where i ensure i get one stretch set done per song) and slap my dick about gently. The aim is to increase circulation and let the penis calm down if it was getting erect during the set (common beginner issue). So, i maybe have a 20-30 second break between sets of stretches.
I then have a break of a few mins before jelqing as i apply my lube and hunt about for some naked lady videos to help me keep my 80% erection (trick i find is to get erect then stop looking at the videos!).
I am in week 4 of newbie program so do 600 jelqs. I split these into 6 sets of 100 and again have some circulation time between each set.
Generally it feels "right" to work the dick, let it catch a breather, work it again, breathe, work etc. Besides, your workout isnt a race, make each stretch and jelq count and you will reach your goals quicker.
LuckyLuke said:Hah, of course I just thought of another question right after I posted... But during stretches, It kind of feels like I could rip the head off my dick... just a fear right? Or am I holding it wrong? And during the jelqs, which Im almost sure my technique needs work, the head feels like its going to explode at the end of the drag. Normal right?
Everyone gets this fear at the start, i thought my head would come off for sure! Seriously, we've all been there!
Within a week you'll *know* how wrong you were and how strong the penis is in all areas. I wouldnt grip your head for the stretches, grip the main penis shaft an inch or half inch below (you will still find this puts some pressure on the head but thats fine).
For the jelq, you release the tight squeeze at about the base of the head, i think you *may* be continuing up...that "going to explode" is from you collecting blood all the way through your penis and pressing it against the very top of your penis i think. Try letting go a little earlier. The Jelq is for girth work not length, so its only important to work the main shaft.
LuckyLuke said:
LOL, best compliment ever
Thats going on my CV for sure !LuckyLuke said:Hey, you getting any results yet?
I dont know and to be honest i dont care
I am on week four and as my lazy ass didnt measure my beast until week 2 was done my starting measurements weren't really starting measurements. I'll be measuring again in 3 or so weeks. Check out my progress log *Here* i'm trying to set some sort of record for the most detailed and waffling Penis Enlargement routine ever! Seriously though, avoid a mindset of wanting to remeasure yourself often and focus on how long you can keep your Penis Enlargement routine going for without unplanned lapses or breaks. I would say to anyone this ain't brain surgery, just keep working on that cock and it WILL happen!Once again, maybe Im just being pessimistic... but why am I thinking my dick is getting smaller?? And also, its hard for me to stay aroused during jelqing, because Im concentrating so much on form... if I want to focus more on length, what should I be doing? Thanks again (Im sure levista will give great advice)
LuckyLuke said:
Ah yes this thread is doing my post count a lot of good
Ok, when i started Penis Enlargement'ing i too found my dick would retreat afterwards, its basically thinking "what the fuck is going on? whats he doing to me?" and trying to run away from you. Give it a week or two and it'll stop happening and you'll start to find it will hang better generally. (I am assuming you mean smaller flaccid)
If you lose your erection, stop jelqing and start playing with yourself, easy as that, just dont lose your count. It's good news you are working hard on form, as its never what you do thats most important but *how* you do it.
Stretches will give you length, so pull as hard as your grip and your comfort zone will allow. You should be pulling harder naturally on your last set than your first as your penis will be "warmed up". I feel the final set is key although they are *all* important!
Jelq increases width and erection strength. Ladies enjoy the width of a penis more than the length (until you are over 8" and can start hitting deep inside) so never neglect your width training.
LuckyLuke said:
The stretches you are doing are tried, tested and proven. You are already further along to gains than you know, having found and started on the right exercises.
Your 6 weeks of phase 1 will pass quicker than expected trust me (my 4 weeks have flown by) and more advanced stretches will begin in stage 2.
Luke, i've never mentioned it before but i would recomend you look into the "Ring of Power" (often known as the RoP) by Supra, you can find threads about it in the alternative Penis Enlargement forum here. It can do a range of stuff that you will find helpful in these goals. I use one and like many others i recommend it fully.
LuckyLuke said:
I need to stress i do my own variant of these as the foreskin was getting in the way and slowing things down while doing jelqs in the standard 1 jelq per hand then swap method. I do 100 jelqs in the way described below then swap hand.
I am also uncut. When jelqing i firstly get the erection. I let my penis stand naturally with the foreskin in its normal position. Then i form my ok grip and grasp my penis and foreskin in it about a half inch under my head ( note my foreskin when aroused goes to just over the base of my head) and basically bring the foreskin down to the jelq starting position. I think the "trick" for an uncut is to move your foreskin down with your hand when you are resetting your hand position to start the next jelq at the base. This does not mean you do a reverse jelq on the way down, just maintain enough pressure to keep your foreskin riding with you at all times.
Tricky to explain, as i do this all automatically these days, i'll double check this when i do them tonight.
Anyone else got any suggestions on this? As i say, i kinda do it my own way!
So levista can you explain this more in a detail if you can. I always had this problem with the foreskin in the way when jelqing and that gave me my thinner base I think. So when you jelq your penis head is not covered with foreskin at all? I would really like to get this technique right.
Thanks
Thanks
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LuckyLuke said:
It may be psychological. I know that if I visualize my penis as being huge or at my goal size then when I look at it, it always seems small. It's almost like I was expecting it to be 9x6.5 because I had been thinking about it. So I try not to daydream/visualize my penis being any bigger because I will almost definitely be disappointed when I look at it.
9cyclops9 said:
Excellent point! I think the imagery is vital to success in Penis Enlargement but when we want something so bad and it has not yet materialized the body dysmorphia we feel can be depressing. What I do to deal with this is when I start to have negative feelings about my size I simply look on my past in Penis Enlargement. I know Penis Enlargement works because I have gained already...perhaps I am not at my goal size but since it works I know someday I will get there. Understanding this brings serenity and calmness. It allows me to feel good about what I have done and it gets me inspired to get to my goal size.
Another thing that happens allot in Penis Enlargement is when we see someone bigger than ourselves we tend to get envious. I know for myself there has been plenty of times during my Penis Enlargement that I have seen someone bigger than me and my initial feelings we jealousy. Whenever I feel jealous I know there is something wrong inside. I try to step back and examine myself and see where these feelings are coming from. I quickly realize that these feelings are because I see something I want and I don't have it yet. The key word is YET. When I realize that I have the gift of Penis Enlargement, the potential to get to anyplace I want, I feel inspired.
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doublelongdaddy said:
How often does that happen now?
ElCapitan said:
Ok, back again after a Jelqing session. I want to stress again i am doing things my own way here, use your own judgement.
I control my foreskin by doing a large number of jelqs with one hand. At no point during the jelq does the OK grip leave the penis. It is in constant contact. On the way up the grip is obviously tight and creating the desired jelqing pressure. On the way down the grip is looser but the foreskin is held - basically a skin touching grip with a little pressure, enough to move the foreskin along with the hand but nothing you would feel internally in the penis.
Re-examining my starting position i find i stand erect, pull the foreskin back a little (everyone is different so i will not advise exact measurements, find what works for you) as you move the OK down to grip the penis itself quite low at the base. From there you jelq away up and down in controlled motions. The amount of foreskin above the top of your gripping thumb will never change this way as it is controlled fully. I find i never get a "tug" on the foreskin unless i really move the jelq too high at the end.
To put it a completely different way, you want most foreskin under/below your ok grip and unable to move through/past your grip.
Frankly i havent a clue how to control foreskin on a normal jelq.
Hope this helps, i'm finding it ridiculously hard to explain LOL
Cheers levista I will try it. I know it is hard to explain. I tried another method yesterday but it was little time consuming. It was like this: when you jelq up with say right hand your left hand forefinger and middle finger are at the base holding the skin back. It is ok but it takes a lot of time. With practice I will make it better.
ElCapitan said:
Thats exactly the way i did it originally when I first found Penis Enlargement, and as you say its time consuming and it was hard to stay erect as you were thinking too much about the awkwardness. Then again, maybe with practice it would get easier, i really cant say..
Now i think about it i have no idea why i just started doing jelqs my own way when i finally kicked off my Penis Enlargement program. I remember being impressed with DLDs video in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] site, as he seemed to blast through jelqs quickly and it gave me the feeling I shouldnt be overthinking them and just get on with it, and feel my way to success.
Hope i have been of some help
levista said:Thats exactly the way i did it originally when I first found Penis Enlargement, and as you say its time consuming and it was hard to stay erect as you were thinking too much about the awkwardness. Then again, maybe with practice it would get easier, i really cant say..
Now i think about it i have no idea why i just started doing jelqs my own way when i finally kicked off my Penis Enlargement program. I remember being impressed with DLDs video in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] site, as he seemed to blast through jelqs quickly and it gave me the feeling I shouldnt be overthinking them and just get on with it, and feel my way to success.
Hope i have been of some help
Well I had JEN filming those early one naked
I was showing off