Barnstool123;617641 said:
Vasodilators can be taken very safely. Unlikely to have long term negative side effects. Possible though. Any negative side effects from vasodilator Are more likely to be acute. Haven't read anything on prp for PE. I'm guessing it was shills because prp is extremely expensive. I don't think prp will have have a place in chemPE. Unless a serious tissue injury occurs in which case it would possibly speed healing.

It will have a place. It has around 7-8 growth factors. You would just need to DIY w/ a centrifuge. Otherwise it's $1k+ unless you travel overseas.
 
smerc;617655 said:
It will have a place. It has around 7-8 growth factors. You would just need to DIY w/ a centrifuge. Otherwise it's $1k+ unless you travel overseas.

I don't think anyone's going to find a doc who will do it for a 1000$. A doc here in Boston did my friends Achilles' tendon for 3k. Didn't provide him with any improvement unfortunately. It was done before US docs were heating up the plasma. Just because there are growth factors present doesn't mean it will result in the growth gains like we are working for with PE. And injections are done with months in between. PRP just doesn't match up with PE unless there is a tissue injury to the penis. And a prp injection somewhere into the penis won't necessarily spread evenly throughout the penis. I just believe it is very unlikely prp will be a part of a chemPE routine. There is a lot mor PE to proper prp treatment the. Just removing blood, spinning it, then injecting it. It needs to be heated up to produce the immune response needed for successful treatment. It is much less likely to work if this step is not done. Luckily though doctors in the US are now doing this. There weren't allowed to when this technique first began being used in the US. Which is great so everyone doesn't have to fly to Germany to have it done properly.
 
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I didn't mean to correlate it having growth factors to it being successful. Instead, just having a place in chemPE, be it successful or not. A lot of current chems have their place ATM, but don't live up to the science behind them in relation to PE. Then again, a lot of people were reporting bunk peptides. However, nobody from what I know actually ponied up the money to take things to a lab to report whether or not a provider was reputable. That's where a big problem lies as well. Also not sure on their COA statuses either.

The docs that were doing it for $1k were doing it through the trial phase I think. Not sure if that's a nationwide thing or if it's just a doctor trial thing and them introducing it to their services w/ the help of guinea pigs. Some people got the injections for more than $1k, then following injections were around $1k. Probably cause most results were bunk. Either way, I wouldn't pay to get it done unless reputable people were reporting results. I agree w/ the tissue thing as it was initially used for peyronies corrections and it seems like those people had the best results (if the photos are not skewed). Wasn't aware of the heating issues. I thought the premix stuff that you put into the blood dealt w/ the bodies responses to the new prp/growth factors. I also seen them state the use of hyaluronic acid, but I think I seen a necrosis report w/ that or at least one of them. Do you know if it was a body temperature thing or something to mimic inflammation?
 
I never saw anything on hyaluronic acid but think that's a bad idea. Heating up the plasma is simply just giving it a fever to trigger a greater healing immune response. When heated it is up to 100x more anti-inflammatory then just prp alone. It is called orthokine. Developed in Germany. This is the one all the athletes have done over in Germany. They aren't just having a doc do prp here. Prp without the heating process can be done more frequently. Orthokine is done months apart if needed.
 
Do ya'll think its better 2 sets hanging and only 1.5 extending or 1 set hanging and 3 hours extending
 
mza;618062 said:
Do ya'll think its better 2 sets hanging and only 1.5 extending or 1 set hanging and 3 hours extending

I would vary it week to week changing routine every other week in order to get the most out of both types of hanging. This will keep things interesting and more fun in its variations, which will help you stay motivated and not get bored.
 
doublelongdaddy;618064 said:
I would vary it week to week changing routine every other week in order to get the most out of both types of hanging. This will keep things interesting and more fun in its variations, which will help you stay motivated and not get bored.

Yes maybe this way i can shock new gains
 
True because your penis would be doing something different every week so it should shock it consistently.
 
Today is a rest day
From tomorrow on i will include jelqing before i go to sleep
I will start with 400
 
Most likely just some fatigue from training. You could take time off if you are planning on sex, maybe 24 hours of rest, to get yourself back to 100%. Otherwise I would not worry too much, when fatigued it is a great time to get as much length in as you can to take advantage of the weakness of the pelvic floor muscles.
 
Zambrodom3;619445 said:
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mza;621923 said:
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I remember LIGHTNING saying the shipping details are perfect. You need to reach him I guess. :)
 
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