hanyou123

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Hi everyone!

I have read threads regarding PE for micropenis but they usually end up without updates from users who are experiencing the same problems.

This is my situation. I am 1" flaccid and about 4" erect. However, my girth is just a little thicker than my thumb (sighs). May I know what I should do to increase both length and girth? Will using extenders and bathmate help?

Any advice/help is appreciated, especially if you were in a similar situation as me. :)
 
I have never been in your situation. There's no reason those wouldn't work for you like anyone else though. Also all the hand exercises should help you just as much as the next guy.

Don't wonder if it will work. Wonder how you're going to do it. Then do it.
 
If your penis never experienced greater bloodflow, the pressure and force from jelqing, and stretching, then you have a HUGE amount untapped potential. You can go to 2.5" flaccid and 6" by those methods alone and in good time.
Just come back to check that you've understood the routine - and don't lie to yourself about how long you are holding stretches for or how intensely you are pulling. It can be really uncomfortable at first, but your first changes should encourage you to proceed.

You will likely not gain much girth while you are going up in length. Don't panic, this is how it should be. When you reach a better length you can then stop stretches and girth will come.
For the first 3-6 months *at least* you don't need any kit other than heat and a way to apply it to your groin, some natural oil, your hands, and insane dedication and discipline.
In case you think I may be keeping you away from some better route, all my gains came without any tools or equipment other than my body.
 
hanyou, .. what owmaballs said ^^.

If it really is micro-penis (any number of hypogonadal/endocrine issues) then you might also have some underexpressed genes available for manipulation with direct hormonal applications such as Andractim or similar. (Gel, not cream. Creams have an affinity for storage in adipose tissue which would make doing cycles more problematic.)

If however your size is within a range of normal (even if on the lower side) for your genotype, then dedication to good PE is going to be your course. Put in the work. Don't be in a rush. It'll go as quickly as your dedication and good technique can take it, but PE is a progress that adds up across time. If you're impatient and constantly measuring (like waiting for a pot to boil) it will seem slow and be mentally counterproductive.

Below are quotes of some knowledgeable posts on the other matter, for if you feel as though you fit that category of underexpressed genetics, rather than low-side of normal genetics.

An amazing treatment to use for penis enlargement is Andractim gel. It's actually topical DHT (dihydrotestosterone) - a metabolite of testosterone. DHT is many times stronger than testosterone and has a high affinity for the androgen receptors in penis tissue. It doesn't convert to estrogen like testosterone does, a good thing.

Andractim gel gets great results for penis enlargement. It triggers growth like nothing else can. DHT is the hormone responsible for development of all male sexual characteristics like body hair, beards, and you guessed it, penis growth!

How to use DHT gel for penis enlargement :
The way to use DHT gel successfully is to apply it in cycles. Your body will compensate after a while to the excess DHT by down regulating the androgen receptors making DHT less effective. So what to do? here's a good way to go:

Start using the DHT gel. One small dose applied to the penis two times every day. You will notice its effects within a couple days. Signs are increased sex drive, harder erections, more morning wood, things like that.

Hit your PE routine hard. As long as you feel the positive effects of the DHT gel continue intense PE workouts (usually a few weeks).

When the effects of the DHT gel seem to be wearing off, stop using it. You should also stop the intense workouts. You can keep up a light routine but during this period your letting your body return to normal. Your penis is also healing.

When you feel ready, start another cycle but you should let a few weeks go by before you start again. This gives time for the androgen receptors to normalize/up-regulate in the penis tissues.

Used with PE, each cycle of DHT gel should give you measurable gains, as much as 1/4 inch each cycle. After a few cycles these gains really add up!
The only commercially available topical DHT gel is Andractim . You have to fill out an online form when ordering. Don't state penis enlargement as the reason for use! You can state it's for increasing sex drive (if over 45yrs. old) or you have Gynecomastia (bitch tits) or look up the latest acceptable excuses online.

Men are often concerned about the adequacy of their genitals. Concerns over penis size and a desire for a longer penis are common in the male population. Many men wonder if it is possible for their penis to grow (on its own) after puberty? Sometimes it will but most often it will not.

The male penis normally starts to grow at ages 9 to 13 and completes its growth by 19 to 22 yrs. Most boys finish growing somewhere around age 16 or 17. Whether the penis has completed its growth during puberty determines how much residual growth is possible. Certain conditions do allow for penis enhancement.
Hypogonadism, or testosterone deficiency, can actually create a Micropenis - a penis less than 4.5" in length when erect or stretched. Hypogonadism is defined as a total testosterone of less than 300 ng/dl or a free testosterone of less than 50 pg/ml in adult men. The effects occur mostly during puberty.

This does not mean that men with a 4 or 5" penis do not have an opportunity for increased length with hormonal treatment.
Topical gels probably causes penile growth through systemic action, via IGF-1 [Laron Z.1998] and not merely through its local effect. [Jacobs SC, 1975.] Penile growth cessation is mediated by mechanisms other than down-regulation of the androgen receptor.
Androgen ointments have been found effective in increasing the penis size in research with prepubertal boys with micropenis. [Klugo RC. 1970] Testosterone levels influence penile growth, possibly as a result of expansion of the shaft through the action of androgen receptors in the corpus [Bin-Abbas B, 1999, Godek JC, 1985].

What it does mean is that early administration of androgen to prepubertal male individuals with low serum or salivary testosterone [Rilling JK, 1996] can result in a longer penis or phallus in adulthood. [Baskin LS, 1997]

Men who have large penises show a rapid conversion of free-Testosterone into DHT as measured by T/DHT ratio in their blood. Rapid conversion is a genetic trait indicated by amplified maleness early in life: increased body and beard hair, increased musculature, early male pattern baldness, short height (<5'8") and greater penile girth (>3.5" around) with length (>7"). A very strong sex drive, increased masturbation frequency, and early puberty are also associated with higher testosterone levels.

Research indicates that even in an adult male, penis growth is still possible with topical hormone application causing stimulation of the androgen receptors in the corpus cavernosa, the blood filled cavities along the shaft of the male penis. In some cases a vacuum penis pump is prescribed for trial participants.

References:
Wessells H, Lue TF, McAninch JW. Penile length in the flaccid and erect states: guidelines for penile augmentation. J Urol 1996 Sep;156(3):995-7

*... We measured flaccid and erect penile dimensions in 80 physically normal men before and after pharmacological erection. Average flaccid length was 8.8 cm (3.3"). stretched length 12.4 cm.(5") and erect length 12.9 cm.(5.3")

Neither patient-age, nor size of the flaccid penis, accurately predicted erectile length. Stretched length most closely correlated with erect length. CONCLUSIONS: Only men with a flaccid length of less than 4 cm., or a stretched or erect length of less than 7.5 cm. (3") should be considered candidates.

Klugo RC, Cerny JC, Journal of Urology 1978 May;119(5):667-8
Five patients were treated with gonadotropin and topical testosterone for micropenis associated with hypothalamic hypogonadotropic hypogonadism. All patients received 1,000 units of gonadotropin weekly for 3 weeks, with a 6-week interval followed by 10% topical testosterone cream twice daily for 3 weeks. Serum testosterone levels were measured and remained equivalent for both modes of therapy. Average penile growth response with gonadotropin was 14.3% increase in length and 5.0% increase of girth. Topical androgen ointment produced an average increase of 60% in penile length and 52.9% in girth. The greatest growth response occurred in prepubertal male subjects with a minimal response in postpubertal male subjects. This study suggests that 10% topical ointment twice daily will produce effective penile growth. The response appears to be greater in younger children, which is consistent with previously published studies of age-related 5 reductase activity.

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I new a guy who started PE at 3.5" x 3" and after about 18 months of training he got to 6.5 x 5", his name was smallguy. You can look up his progress log here by searching for his name. Probably one of the best accomplishments I have seen on the forums.
 
doublelongdaddy;637959 said:
I new a guy who started PE at 3.5" x 3" and after about 18 months of training he got to 6.5 x 5", his name was smallguy. You can look up his progress log here by searching for his name. Probably one of the best accomplishments I have seen on the forums.

that's fucking amazing!

he literally went from the guy who would probably get picked on in the locker room.

to the guy girls call again. just because he had a good cock.

going from 7 to 8 is not going to change your life. but that is!
 
Hi DLD!

Thanks for your post!

I tried finding smallguy, but the search engine only returned results with smallguy44, and his progress log didn't look like he started at 3.5". May you kindly post the link here if you can find it?
 
I tried finding smallguy, but the search engine only returned results with smallguy44, and his progress log didn't look like he started at 3.5". May you kindly post the link here if you can find it?

Hey Hanyou, ..

(not that anybody listens to me apparently, :p , but .. ) it's not smallguy44 or smallbrownguy, ...

DLD is thinking of C-Guy [a contraction of 'Confident Guy'] which was a change from that dude's older name of Shy-Guy.

So for that information you'd be looking for posts by Shy-Guy, or right at the start probably of his posts as C-Guy.. eleven or even twelve years back.
 
Asanon;638179 said:
Hey Hanyou, ..
(not that anybody listens to me apparently, :p , but .. ) ...
We're listening. Don't much rate your contribution though...

; )

C'mon, you kidding? : )
 
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