The Penis is a BALLOON not a ROPE

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There's solid information on the first page of this thread! And from year 2003; still gold!

DLD asked about opinions. I've always felt strongly that whatever the exercise, girth and length can come together. Maybe not in totally linear gains, but the "Balloon not a Rope" holds true.
While certain exercises can target length gains more, girth usually takes some place as well.
And vice versa with more girth oriented exercises.

RED brought this thread up and DLD did write a very good follow up about the revival:

DLD said:

Thanks Red! It was a great article that I point to at least once a week. Brothers can get an understanding of how complimentary girth is to length and him complimentary length is to girth.

Today we can also include the understanding that the Tunica needs to be prepped before we even begin to train using Bundled Stretches. This pre-Stretch allows for so much greater gains. I always knew there was something more to Bundled Stretching than just length gains. And BOOM! There is was!

After years I realized how limiting the Tunica was but I also knew Bundled work would eliminate theses limits. Today it has allowed many Brothers to gain who have never gained before and men who were at plateaus were able to break through. Eventually they became a staple in all PE users exercise list.

It is amazing when theory and method can translate so perfectly with experience and gain. When this happens we make a great stride in the work we do.

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Just wanted to bring the thread back to the solid ground, as it swayed a bit.
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arkailija said:

There's solid information on the first page of this thread! And from year 2003; still gold!

DLD asked about opinions. I've always felt strongly that whatever the exercise, girth and length can come together. Maybe not in totally linear gains, but the "Balloon not a Rope" holds true.
While certain exercises can target length gains more, girth usually takes some place as well.
And vice versa with more girth oriented exercises.

RED brought this thread up and DLD did write a very good follow up about the revival:


Just wanted to bring the thread back to the solid ground, as it swayed a bit.
Macons can write a review about the pills to the Pills and Supplements forum.

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Good move!

I still believe that if you gain allot of girth from the start, and focus on length more later down the road, it will be more difficult.

Don't believe me? try to imagine Shorty Mac with his massive girth gaining 1" in erect length compared to the average guy gaining the same. The sheer volume takes up more time in growth.

REDZULU2003 said:

I still believe that if you gain allot of girth from the start, and focus on length more later down the road, it will be more difficult.

Don't believe me? try to imagine Shorty Mac with his massive girth gaining 1" in erect length compared to the average guy gaining the same. The sheer volume takes up more time in growth.

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Who doesn’t believe you? Are you trying to say the study is not right? I’m kind of confused on what you’re saying here please clarify.

it kinda makes sense that both type of exercises (girth and length) influence each other.

For instance, girth exercises is going to weaken the tunica... After that, you can mold the weakened tunica in any direction you want first (lenght or girth)

DLD said:

Who doesn’t believe you? Are you trying to say the study is not right? I’m kind of confused on what you’re saying here please clarify.

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Not saying anyone doesn't believe me. Its a turn of phrase, and I used the famous �naked people movies� star Shorty Mac as an example. He is very thick, so thick, it neatly catches up with his length.

Both girth & length gains crossover to an extent, BUT when the man is already huge in girth (this could be natural or from mostly girth gains), gaining length from that point on is difficult ..FACT .. experience talking here, and explained how I believe that process goes. Not impossible at all, but certainly more difficult, and that was what I disclosed recently, this isn't to belittle your viewpoint, everyone can think what they like.

The more I read and research about tunica and septum, the more difficult it seems to grow it. This tissues are extremely hard to grow.

Based on that study that measured the amount of pressure required to burst the tunica, it seems like no matter how much pressure you create, the tissues are not really expanding beyond its elasticity. It seems like the tissues reach its 100%, you increase pressure, but expansion remains the same. You can feel pain, it will feel hard like steel, but there is no more expansion. Until eventually reaches its maximum resistance and explodes.

That is discouraging because ideally you would expect that the tunica reach its 100%, you increase pressure, tunica reaches 150%. Over time it grows to 110%, you increase pressure, it stretches to 160%, over time grows to 120% and so on. But is not the case.

I guess is the same with a joint for example. You can stretch so much to do a full split with your legs, but that doesn't mean you can stretch the join to literally pull your leg out of your hip socket 10 inches far out. The ligaments are only going to stretch and strengthen to allow a full split and thats it. Its their genetic limit.

Same with the dick. It seems like when we grow through PE, you are growing a joint to allow you to do a full split. Thats it. People who gain more in PE is because they had more untouched genetic potential. Similar to somebody that never did any sport in his life and for the for the first time start a routine to stretch the joints. It will gain a lot of flexibility until it reaches its genetic limit.

It seems like when you reach the maximum of stretching with the septum, is game over. It just cant grow beyond that length. You can hang an airplane from it, IT WILL NOT ELONGATE. It will rip off your pubic bone, the glans will rip off the phallus, but the septum will remain intact in its length. It will not stretch beyond its limit, it will not grow any longer, only tougher.

The hope is in gene therapy and procedures like ultrasound waves.

lano1106 said:

it kinda makes sense that both type of exercises (girth and length) influence each other.

For instance, girth exercises is going to weaken the tunica... After that, you can mold the weakened tunica in any direction you want first (lenght or girth)

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They do benefit each other as the study shows. The penis grows in all directions whether it’s length or girth work. There’s obviously better ways to approach girth and then going with and length exercise but the point is the penis will grow in all directions anyways. The more effort you put in the length of the more length you’ll get but you also get a bit of girth. And if you go for all girth you’re gonna end up with a bit of length. They complement each other.

REDZULU2003 said:

Not saying anyone doesn't believe me. Its a turn of phrase, and I used the famous �naked people movies� star Shorty Mac as an example. He is very thick, so thick, it neatly catches up with his length.

Both girth & length gains crossover to an extent, BUT when the man is already huge in girth (this could be natural or from mostly girth gains), gaining length from that point on is difficult ..FACT .. experience talking here, and explained how I believe that process goes. Not impossible at all, but certainly more difficult, and that was what I disclosed recently, this isn't to belittle your viewpoint, everyone can think what they like.

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Shorty Mac would be a man and anomaly because he’s extremely unique, along with all others that are in his size range. There will always be a misnomer and every study but the reason I wrote this study is to show that each part of PE and enhances the other. This study is written for the 90% it is applicable to.

I'd guess ShortyMac suffers from sickle-cell, as well

Big Schwanz Acht said:

I'd guess ShortyMac suffers from sickle-cell, as well

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It would seem so but who can know for sure.

Looks like it, the very small head.

This thread on the possible reasons why men gain at different rates I think compliments the great work DLD has here.

I found it by accident tonight, and recall 10 years ago when I wrote it!

Very well stated!

TuffDong said:

Very well stated!

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Thank you my brother!

Deforming the tunica,what are the exercises that could deform the tunica?

What about ligaments?? How can they get longer... stretching exercises there are tons of exercises here

DLD said:

This is a good point but it is also important to stick with a solid routine and not jump around too much. I think allot of guys become overwhelmed with the infinite number of Penis Enlargement exercises. I think that once you find a workout that works for you, you should stick with it until plateau.

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SRT - Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition Theory take what we can when time or whatever is not enough for a full session