The Penis is a BALLOON not a ROPE

Originally posted by WaxN
DLD, I think the bag analogy is good, but I'd say the penis is both - a bag & a rope (just as light can be considered a wave & a particle).
The soft tissue of the penis is a bag, whereas the tough ligaments/tendons are more of a rope.
Do you think that's a fair analogy?

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Originally posted by ICM
I would say that it is true essentially (what DLD says) but consider this:

With girth exercises do the tissues not get stronger with every repair (in a larger state)? I would say so. There for length gains would be harder to get.

Also what if somehow hyperplasia (correct word?) was occurring? You would have more fibers to break down.

The other end of this though is, if the above is true, and you are strengthening the fibers of your penis, does it make enough of a difference to actually slow down your gains?

Lastly I think every routine should have a little jelqing, especially BTB. I would make the distinction between light jelqing and hardcore girth work.

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I see your points and I wanted to make a suggestion based on your take. I think a more vigorous length routine would be more sensible than eliminating girth while training for length. If increased girth creates a stronger "rope" as suggested than the solution that would make most sense is to continue a girth routine and increase the time and intensity of the length routine.

Through my 3 years in Penis Enlargement I have had growing spurts in both length and girth at different PHASES even though I trained both areas with as much intensity as the other.

DLD

DLD, I agree 100% with you. I know in the beginning as with now that my gains have been because of the girth exercises I performed. I would also say that it depends on someones body chemisty. Everyone is different. To answer a question asked earlier about the Ulis I have gained a lot with these exercises they are very beneficial. However, you have to try everything to find out what works for you.

channel7 said:

However, you have to try everything to find out what works for you.

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This is a good point but it is also important to stick with a solid routine and not jump around too much. I think allot of guys become overwhelmed with the infinite number of Penis Enlargement exercises. I think that once you find a workout that works for you, you should stick with it until plateau.

doublelongdaddy said:

This is a good point but it is also important to stick with a solid routine and not jump around too much. I think allot of guys become overwhelmed with the infinite number of Penis Enlargement exercises. I think that once you find a workout that works for you, you should stick with it until plateau.

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You are right because I definitely got overwhelmed with what I was doing. After you gave me a routine I got settled.

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I tend to agree with the comparison to a balloon. Take one of those long skinny balloons that clowns use to make the animals or whatever out of. Blow it up, so that it's inflated, but not a whole lot past the original length. Now stretch it a whole lot, and then blow it up again so that it's not much longer than the stretched length. My guess is that the 'girth' of the balloon has also increased substantially.

My poor Bison head,

Now I am thinking that the penis is either a bag or ropes or a rope made up of little bags and the walls of the bags might be ropes and are those ropes made of little bags? Ahhggg.

dopefish said:

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Uh, GOOD information rather..

Mods, feel free to correct my spelling in that post and delete this post.

My theory is that IF you were to gain just legnth or girth, it would have a negative effect on eachother.

Longer = Less girth.
Girthier = Less length.

Of course, nothing significant, but it's there. HOWEVER:

When you Penis Enlargement for girth or length, no matter what you do, you end up helping both anyway, which is why you may not see decreases in either area.

CYiNiSiS

cyinisis said:

My theory is that IF you were to gain just legnth or girth, it would have a negative effect on eachother.

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I disagree and agree in my opinion GIRTH very much helps with LENGTH gains as the penis not only expands out during GIRTH work but up. With a LENGTH only routine I don't think GIRTH would suffer but I also don't think any gains will happen in GIRTH.

I have always wondered about this subject. When I started it made sense but I cannot resist doing girth work!
I was using hangers, the limit I have with hangers is comfort at the clamping point rather than the weights involved. I figured the penis as a rope and more girth would mean more area to clamp and hence more comfort. (recently Bib agreed that upper shaft girth makes for easier hanging). However I had reasoned that more girth area was not beneficial as the volume increases more proportionately to clamping area. So per inch squared of clamping area you are having to hang more weight as girth goes up.
This theory is not correct due to the "bag theory" DLD stated.
The tugger site has a good point about if a 6" elastic band and a 6" leather strap are both stretched to 7" the leather is under far more stress.
The tunica is the leather and the spongy tissue is the elastic. As the girth increases so does hanger clamping area so you can add more weight and the get the same stresses since the inner tissue doesnt have much resistance. In fact the extra inner tissue may help with comfort while hanging and allow more weight per tunica circumference. i.e. If you are barely comfortable with 5lb with a 5" girth then if you are 6" you may be able to handle more than 6lb due to extra internal cushioning.

I do think girth and length go hand in hand. I have often used the balloon analogies too. If you cant blow up a sausage balloon you stretch it lengthwise and it then gives girth wise and blows up easily. If you do girth work I picture cells expanding in all directions. Then doing length work straight after I picture exhausted cells being pulled longitudinally far easier. Also if I do stretching I like to do light girth work just with a cock ring which is a form of ADS holding the penis in an extended state of maximum engorgement for a while after.

let me start off by saying i love this thread . the rope and balloon theiry i read this thread awhile ago and dint remember it til the other day.i was at a bennigans with my chick and it must have been kids half off day or something and they had a guy their doing magic tricks and stuff. so anyways he takes out balloons to make an animal thing he trys to blow it up but cant . so the guy steches it like amrs lenth then of it goes and im like no kiddin . i thought about my pe routine and what i have been doing for the last couple of weeks . i have been always streching before my girth workouts i guess its the visualising aspect of it streching it out before hitting it with a girth workout . i started doing it not cause i read it but that i measure all the time to see what is going on just to see how im reacting to what .when i first joined here last year i started of 6 or a little under girth was alright at either 5 or 5 1/4 i didnt take a beginning measure but was up to 5 1/2 buy the time i first started to post pics. I was like yea now lets go for length figuring id keep my girth bamm i hit 7 but girth went way down so im like damm (the mental aspect of it just stay positive) this is when i started measuring alot to se what was happening
i noticed on another thread that a member was haveing problems loosing girth and length or vice versa after a work out on rest days witch is what happens to me to. this is what i came up with and why i like the balloon theary imho
length~after 2 days off bpfsl 8 3/4 bpel 8 nbp 7 1/2
length~after a girth workout next day bpfsl 8 3/8 bpel 7 3/4 nbp 7
my length goes down very mutch so post work out,that is what lead me to train length with girth then length the next day mostly 50% wet jelq's witch has made me be able to keep my larger stats after a girth work. when i started this i was 7x5.5 (finally got back up to 5.5 from 5.25 after gaining that first inch) now after a couple of days off im keeping the 7.5 and 5.5/8.
when i train girth i try and get at lest 1/4 to 1/2 expantion i can get to 5 7/8
solid no fluid buildup post work out 6 with some fluid buid up next day im down to 5.5 after my 2 days off its been staying at 5.5/8 to 5 3/4 ish . now thats just why i like this theory imho its just like a balloon pull it out blow it up pull it more it blows up bigger thats just my visualization of it any way lets here some other opinions good luck

My theory is that a length-only plan would not benefit girth at all, however it would not reduce girth. However I also believe that girth only work will benefit length to an extent aswell due to the expansion of the penis overall. For instance, most people think of the jelq as a girth exercise, but I believe it is very beneficial to length too.

For instance, most people think of the jelq as a girth exercise, but I believe it is very beneficial to length too.

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I've always felt the penis is more like a balloon, DLD. My experience has been very much like yours.

goinfor11x7 said:

I've always felt the penis is more like a balloon, DLD. My experience has been very much like yours.

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I struggled with the balloon or the bag when I wrote this:D

ICM;28787 said:

I would say that it is true essentially (what DLD says) but consider this:

With girth exercises do the tissues not get stronger with every repair (in a larger state)? I would say so. There for length gains would be harder to get.

Also what if somehow hyperplasia (correct word?) was occurring? You would have more fibers to break down.

The other end of this though is, if the above is true, and you are strengthening the fibers of your penis, does it make enough of a difference to actually slow down your gains?

Lastly I think every routine should have a little jelqing, especially BTB. I would make the distinction between light jelqing and hardcore girth work.

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It's just like building any other muscle. The growth occurs during the resting (off season) not the act of stretching itself. You have to keep in mind it's still just a muscle like any other muscle, just difficult to work the same way so instead you have to use roundabout methods such as this. I do kegels once I'm done stretching to force extra blood and strengthen it, but I only stretch every other day, not daily like many people. I know my growth might be slower than others because I'm not as consistent, but I'm sure they will last longer than most by them being more gradual. I put the emphasis on the exercise itself, not the length of time I involve.

I think when people have problems such as losing their length gains when hitting a girth only routine or vice versa it's because they did not cement the new gains.