The Coming Of The Vacu-extender!!!

TomdW said:

The MaX-Vac can be used for hanging light or heavy and it's a much better design. If you look at both products it seems like a no brainer to me. Monkeybars products look cheaply made and yet the prices are still so similar.

What happens when you decide that you do want to hang heavier also?

Have you read any of the information on the forum at mynewsize?

For me this just comes down to buying the best designed, most versatile product on the market that is backed by proven excellent customer support and has also been shown to work. It's up to you but the answer seems pretty obvious to me.

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im done with heavy hanging, 2 yrs ago i did 20 lbs a day useing the bib for 7 hrs a day for 4.5 months without missing a day and gained zippo!
i ddnt measure once before the 4.5 months , so you could imagine the disbelief when i put the ruler up to my cock after all that suffering useing the bib 7 hrs a day at 20 lbs!

all of my 1.5 inch gains came back in 2006 useing the jes exstender for 12 hrs a day for 5 months. if it wasnt for the pain(from the noose) i went through using that i would have kept going, now im goin 12 to 15 hrs a day for at least 6 months at 3 or more lbs with the vacu hanger as long as it does what everyone says it will do(zero pain at 3 lbs)!

basically because of my own trial and error i feel heavy weight is useless, 3 lbs worn constantly i think based on my own exsperience and dr jes's reaearch is the best way to go!

TomdW said:

The MaX-Vac can be used for hanging light or heavy and it's a much better design. If you look at both products it seems like a no brainer to me. Monkeybars products look cheaply made and yet the prices are still so similar.

What happens when you decide that you do want to hang heavier also?

Have you read any of the information on the forum at mynewsize?

For me this just comes down to buying the best designed, most versatile product on the market that is backed by proven excellent customer support and has also been shown to work. It's up to you but the answer seems pretty obvious to me.

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the funny thing is people on the other forum were killing crash for his price and not one mention about monkeybars price wich is about the same. yet the max vac looks much more involved to make.(shows how some these forums have a agenda, especially when the main mod in monkeybar's threads is a "FREE" product tester )

the vacu hanger cost about 2 dollars in material to make. now i know where paying for monkey bar to buy the molds, equiptment ect... (im sure he made that back within the first 20-30 devices sold) and put the time into making the product,but 90 bucks for a 2 dollar product is pretty rediculous!

id bet within a yr there will be 5 or more sites selling the same thing for half the price, patents mean shit(just look at a huge company like the jes exstender theres at least ten knockoffs, just change the color and a bolt here or there),,,,,

I've placed a order over a week ago and have gotten no email responses from autoexstender.com wich is pissing me off because i have some important questions and i also wanted to change myo order.
I wish i saw this thread before i ordered so i could have bought the max-vac since im looking for a heavy hanger.


john

Give the guy a chance, I have done many buisness with him in the past and he is REAL and a GOOD GUY so give him time and also the vacu-hanger can hang heavy as I have tested it doing so, and remember heavy isnt always better like some think.

You dont need to use huge amounts of weight and small amounts like what the vacu-hanger is said to use is perfectly enough to see good gains.

Also lets not make this a Product VS Product saga, as both products are good and to me will help whoever buys them. Its to the decision of whoever is looking at either model as to what they buy and they shouldnt have their minds decided by anyone else but themselves .... slow email replies by Monkeybar isnt good but like KingD has said the guy has just moved and I'm SURE HE WILL GET BACK TO YOU as like I've said I have delt with him and he is a real good guy and not a scammer like some .... give him some more time and he'll produce the goods.

I hope in time he also gets a forums running at his site so users of his products can give feedback and lots of advice on it all.

well ill wait till tuesday and if i dont here nothing then im calling paypal and asking for a refund!

I understand and its your choice.
Hope it goes well for you and that he does get back to you as it is a good product and I do think you would like it like I have.

If you dont get anything after Tuesday than go for the product sold by BTC but please dont go dissing autoextender.com and monkeybar as we DO NOT know the exact circumstances surrounding his abscence, and it isnt nice to speculate and start gossip so please respect this ... I know you have paid via Paypal and money makes the world go round but please understand that its his buisness and mud sticks when infact it doesnt need to be thrown, if you understand what I mean.

Thanks

I have ordered from autoextender 2x's in the past and every thing was cool. Monkeybar also answered like a dozen of my emails quickly also, except for these last 2 weeks, he's obviously something came up, just give him a few, he's certainly not looking to rip anyone off.

anyone get in touch with this guy yet?

I'm really torn between the Max-Vac and the Vacu-Hanger, but I think I'm gonna have to go for the Vacu-Hanger coz that comes with that leg strap so you can wear it as an ADS during the day, then do some hanging in the evening, and also its a bit cheaper. I admit, the Max-Vac does look better built but for that reason I'm gonna have to go with the Vac-Hanger.

The main reason I'd personally go with the MaX-Vac, leaving customer service and speed of delivery out of it, is due to the ability to change the amount of vacuum in the cylinder at all times. I think this gives it more potential to hang heavier weights but also to find the most comfortable amount of presure at any weight. When I hang 5 lbs I attatch the weight and then increase and decrease the pressure in the cylinder until it is most comfortable. Then as time goes by I alter the presure depending again on comfort.

So it seems to me that what I have just explained is the main benefit of the MaX-Vac although you can not use a pump at all and it would work exactly the same as the Vacu-hanger does. The main benefit of the Vacu-hanger is the fact that it comes with a leg strap.

cypher79 said:

I'm really torn between the Max-Vac and the Vacu-Hanger, but I think I'm gonna have to go for the Vacu-Hanger coz that comes with that leg strap so you can wear it as an ADS during the day, then do some hanging in the evening

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So buy that leg strap and then you have the best of both worlds. Hang heavy and ADS with the MaX-Vac.

I keep saying it. The ability to change the amount of pressure in the cylinder at all times is a massive benefit.

cypher79 said:

I'm really torn between the Max-Vac and the Vacu-Hanger, but I think I'm gonna have to go for the Vacu-Hanger coz that comes with that leg strap so you can wear it as an ADS during the day, then do some hanging in the evening, and also its a bit cheaper. I admit, the Max-Vac does look better built but for that reason I'm gonna have to go with the Vac-Hanger.

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well if you do the math the vac hanger comes to about 133 bucks with tax afte you ordrer 3 exstra sleeeves( pretty much needed since they rip according to what ive read on another forum) and the constriction sleeve(needed to prevent blisters) the leg strap and waist strap i made yrs ago for about 2 dollars with string and a ring from lowes!

so since thier the same price, id base my purchase on what your gonna use it for , wether or not you will recieve the product in a timely manner and if you could reach customer support if you want to return, need help using it or have other questions..

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So why dont you start selling these in with the Max-Vac, as part of a package deal? It would occur to me that a lot guys would be more interested if this was the case.

cypher79 said:

So why dont you start selling these in with the Max-Vac, as part of a package deal? It would occur to me that a lot guys would be more interested if this was the case.

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Because anyone can pick this up around their local neighborhood. You may have a different preference than what MyNewSize chose to offer, and things that are this cheap are a useless show of trinkets and gadgets. However, MyNewSize will begin to offer weight plate stack holders. Something that is not "ready-made" and readily available across the street. I think this is an important enhancement to hangers because it centers gravity, and eases weight change.

I have mentioned advice to connect the M\/ upwards, down the leg, BTC (ADS), OTL, connected to a bed headboard and swinging 30 pounds off your cock. If you want string and velcro....

The main reason I'd personally go with the MaX-Vac, leaving customer service and speed of delivery out of it, is due to the ability to change the amount of vacuum in the cylinder at all times. I think this gives it more potential to hang heavier weights but also to find the most comfortable amount of presure at any weight. When I hang 5 lbs I attatch the weight and then increase and decrease the pressure in the cylinder until it is most comfortable. Then as time goes by I alter the presure depending again on comfort.

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So by this, I take it your talking about the hand pump? I say this because I probably will only hang about 10-15 pounds max and I'm not sure if I want the added hassle and expense of a pump.

well its tuesday and still no response on a item i PAID MONEY for!
this is pathetic!

cypher79 said:

So by this, I take it your talking about the hand pump? I say this because I probably will only hang about 10-15 pounds max and I'm not sure if I want the added hassle and expense of a pump.

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The hand-pump is not required. I think there's some pictures around here with me hanging 30 pounds without added vacuum, but the (hand-pump)option is available with the MV. I'm sure the Vacu-hanger is a decent product so don't let us bust your balls. I noticed I was referred to as crashhex. At MOS members are free to talk about the Max-Vac. Unfortunately, there is some partisan influence at other boards and topics are carefully watched, scrutinized, discouraged and moved to a single un-related thread.. Some people in life actually enjoy being an ass and it always shows.

As a consumer, I would pay attention to members' personal reflections, images and routine progress. Not VS. from one board to another. Obviously, MOS seems pro MV, and the other pro VH. Personally, I haven't come across too many members' experiences with the VH at either board, but I'm sure there's several opinions (even from those that don't own either).



~BTC

wed. still no response!
buyer beware...

john5 said:

wed. still no response!
buyer beware...

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John, send me a PM and I'll refund your purchase. Its already shipped, but you could ship it back and I'll provide a full refund including shipping.

I've been away for a 2 weeks due to a personal reason and I do apology for that. I believe I have a pretty good customer service, but personal life takes precedent.

As for the discussion between MV vs Vacu-hanger - I've talked to crash while back and he's a good guy. There's no need to trash or one up the other product. We all know what each device does and they are both good products (in my eye). If you like the look of a device and thats determining factor, then it is the product for you - you still can't go wrong with neither product.

As you know, I don't just sell Vacu-Hanger. I have many products, both on the website and on the pipeline. I test my product for long long time before its ever introduced. My product will never look good as Crash's hanger as it is not injection molded by a professional molding shop. Everything I make is done by me, at my shop. Its just different philosophy as I've discussed this with Crash. I tend to change my design quite often as I keep finding better way to re-design the devices. This makes outsourcing very difficult (very costly), which in turns will keep me boutique producer at best. Crash, for example, could probably produce 10,000 units per month if he wished - for me, at max - I could make about couple of hundered units.

As for the pricing, yes it doesn't cost lot of money in terms of material. But for me, the development cost (without saying how much, you could buy nice a nice BathmateW) and time associated has to be recouped. If someone is saying I could recoup after 20-30 press doesn't know how much it take to bring things to market. Yes, you could make fairly cheap home version, but to have a small production environment is quite a another story.

Again, I apology for any delay and you are welcome to PM me for any refund or returns.

Note: If you emailed me, please bear with me as I'm having amazing spamming issues. I'm getting 1 letigimate email for every 200 messages.

cheers.