TomdW said:
The MaX-Vac can be used for hanging light or heavy and it's a much better design. If you look at both products it seems like a no brainer to me. Monkeybars products look cheaply made and yet the prices are still so similar.
What happens when you decide that you do want to hang heavier also?
Have you read any of the information on the forum at mynewsize?
For me this just comes down to buying the best designed, most versatile product on the market that is backed by proven excellent customer support and has also been shown to work. It's up to you but the answer seems pretty obvious to me.
I wasn't going to go this route, but have to respond (with several users prodding me as they thought this was over the line) I'm writing this with the knowledge that you are representing Crash's interest - which I believe you were going to sell his product on Ebay.
Crash, hopefully this type of things doesn't happen as I had a nice conversation with you and I mentioned your product positively in both board. If user don't like either of product, its one thing, but to have someone represent you and say something that not substantiated is uncall for. I could have many people start talking negatively about your product, but I don't as we both seem to have a genuine concern toward our hobby. You don't need to drum up business this way as my impression of you was better than that. If I mispoke about TomW's role I do apology.
TomW - how is it better design? Is it just a personal preference? or did you scientifically measured the effects. It seems like a blank and unsubstantiated statement to me. Have you beta tested my product for 3 months by veteran users before even thinking about selling? Is it because its better looking or shinier? Please explain.
I've been in the Penis Enlargement arena for long time and making stuff out of frustration. I'm not here to compete with you or Crash, the user will make their own mind. I don't really care if users buy my product, and in many (and many) cases, I steer them off my products as I don't think they have the determination to stick with the program. It will be sili and waste of money for them. I certainly could take their money, but I sometimes don't - I'm happy with what I designed and majority of people seem to agree with me. If they don't, then they get their money back. Period. I'm not saying I don't want to sell the product as lots of money went into making the product, but if something works for them already, they don't need to buy my product.
So before making some statement without substantiated facts, you need to explain your experience with both product. I could mention many veterans who have gained (a real result, not a hearsay, which seems to be common on these threads) quite a bit using less than 5lbs (used consistantly and for longer duration), so your higher weight capability is pretty much a moot point. As mentioned in my website, we only support up to 10lb. Can it do more - yes, I personally tested double the weight - but setup as a business with real liability insurance premium to pay, I do not support more than that for risk adversion. I also stick to time is more important than weight camp - and I truly belive that. So I do put 10lb as a weight limit, but I wished people would use a lower weight and do it for longer duration.
Typically, most users drop out of Penis Enlargement due to misconception, thinking that higher weight will result in quicker gain. It may be true for few people, but for the majority of users, it simply will not happen. Thats why I do preach what I preach - to keep these users involved so that they will see the gain - not give up after a month. If I simply wanted to make money, I could put up - "you could gain 3 inches in 3 months" like some website. But I don't and thats that.
You mention pricing - I remember Crash talking about his pricing. You should know that since you are involved. Its no way near the price we do charge. I'm not sure if Crash has told you (if he got his patents), but my patents process cost $12,000 alone and I have a several patents. If you wanted to know, some of the things you mentioned are already infringing on my patent (which my lawyer wanted to persue). But I dont' want to go that route as its not what I want to do - hopefully you get this message.
Lastly, I'm sorry if I mis-understood your comment and correct me if I did. In the future, I would stick with how to better use the device you are interested in and try to help people so that they don't become another short time Penis Enlargement'er.
cheers.