I don't understand why there isn't a successful penis surgery

I dont understand why doctors haven't come up with a new successful way of making a man's penis bigger. They know how to put men on the moon, cure diseases, give you new body parts and give you hard ons and bigger muscles but not a bigger dick?

Can't they just chop a big dick off a dead guy and give it to one of us?

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put you in a hospital, pump your dick up so huge that it's like 3 inches bigger in length and girth and pump you full of anestheia and viagara everyday for like a week solid, then give you a few weeks to recover then do it again once a month for a year and then boom, you got super mega penis?

There are some improvements but they're slow. I'd expect progress to speed up soon since male cosmetic surgery is becoming much more popular. In the meantime it makes sense to Penis Enlargement instead of waiting aimlessly.

yeah the do that in Thailand for about 50 US bucks, even give you a nice 12 year old along with that

I think the idea is that most doctors think that if it isn't fucked up, then leave it alone. Yes, if it's tiny then you have a problem, but if it works fine then you're not eligble for any kind of treatment unless you have the bucks. Wankers.

As long as there's money to be made, it IS going to get done eventually. The only question is how long from now. 5 years? Even in our lifetimes? Doing Penis Enlargement right now is the only reasonable solution. No sense waiting since there's nothing we know about in the pipeline.

mine works but too small for intercourse

cant be too small for intercourse dude.. how big is it non bone pressed?

i agree with psychotic. developing surgeries and ideas for cosmetic purposes especially penis enlargement is at the bottom of the "to do" pile. i personally understand why someone might want to make his penis larger, but doctors will see only the risk involved, plus if its functional already - why make it bigger just for someones ego? but i agree there should be research into it, since alot of guys have insecurities regarding penis size (mostly due to bitch women abusing the fact that men cant change that aspect of themselves). but at the same time, im quite happy working hard my mine, knowing that 99.99% of guys out there wouldnt be arsed to do a decent Penis Enlargement routine and therefore never gain. would you want every guy to have an 8x6?

The Draven said:

put you in a hospital, pump your dick up so huge that it's like 3 inches bigger in length and girth and pump you full of anestheia and viagara everyday for like a week solid, then give you a few weeks to recover then do it again once a month for a year and then boom, you got super mega penis?

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That's the most practical advance I see them making in the near future. This could be very effective and interesting, mass forced IV inflation of the penis like an internal penis pump. It would be painful so some sort of anesthetic would be needed like you said, and the vasodilators should help with reovery like you said as well, but this could be very effective over repeated visits. But, one thing is you'd have to think about how you would force the penis to expand internally, extremely overinflating the corpa cavernosa, without causing a disruption in the rest of the blood flow to the body.

I say you call up the biggest names in the surgical community or even attend one of their yearly meetings and suggest it.

Another problem I see with this, though, is that this would support the theory ( actually, proven method) of a lot of the manual Penis Enlargement exercises that force blood to expand the penis and the surgical community still prefers to downplay or ignore these methods entirely either because they are not educated about it or because they feel it threatens their business. Which brings me to the point that you'd have to remind them of a practical business model. They should be able to make plenty of money off the procedure and meds though.

A less practical method would be simply figuring out how to duplicate the corpa cavernosa and corpus spongiosum and add it to the tip of your shaft and reattach the head like a lid. I've seen some cell duplication stuff and some experimentation with grafting skin from a cadaver but it doesn't seem to be advanced enough for the type of lengthening I'm talking about. Even still, with the length many would still want width and today that is either done with skin graft or fat and both are not firm and some subside or even cause problems. So, for girth as well the doc would have to be able to physically replace the corpa cavernosa with real and larger replacements that are larger in both length and girth, like they do with the inflatable impants but they'd have to be able to do it with real tissue. I imagine a good way to start their research would be to explore what they can do with freshly removed corpa cavernosa from a patient who was having ED problems or from a recently deceased person.

PenilePersist said:

That's the most practical advance I see them making in the near future. This could be very effective and interesting, mass forced IV inflation of the penis like an internal penis pump. It would be painful so some sort of anesthetic would be needed like you said, and the vasodilators should help with reovery like you said as well, but this could be very effective over repeated visits.

I say you call up the biggest names in the surgical community or even attend one of their yearly meetings and suggest it.

Another problem I see with this, though, is that this would support the theory of a lot of the manual Penis Enlargement exercises that force blood to expand the penis and the surgical community still prefers to downplay or ignore these methods entirely either because they are not educated about it or because they feel it threatens their business.

A less practical method would be simply figuring out how to duplicate the corpa cavernosa and corpus spongiosum and add it to the tip of your shaft and reattach the head like a lid. I've seen some cell duplication stuff and some experimentation with grafting skin from a cadaver but it doesn't seem to be advanced enough for the type of lengthening I'm talking about. Even still, with the length many would still want width and today that is either done with skin graft or fat and both are not firm and some subside or even cause problems. So, for girth as well the doc would have to be able to physically replace the corpa cavernosa with real and larger replacements that are larger in both length and girth, like they do with the inflatable impants but they'd have to be able to do it with real tissue. I imagine a good way to start their research would be to explore what they can do with freshly removed corpa cavernosa from a patient who was having ED problems or from a recently deceased person.

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There was some gruesome procedure posted on here like that, where they added 2 inches. It didn't strike me as safe or ingenious, though, and I support surgery on the whole. I think the main issue here is that surgical Penis Enlargement isn't easy. Can you think of a good surgical procedure that isn't offered? If you can then you should market it, if you can't then you have no business expecting others to have thought of something.

spinner2 said:

There was some gruesome procedure posted on here like that, where they added 2 inches.

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Very interesting. Thanks for posting. Like what? I'm not sure which "like that" you are referring to. Link? Explanation?

It didn't strike me as safe or ingenious, though, and I support surgery on the whole.

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Not surprised. Surgery ain't pretty. Even typical surgeries don't seem safe and ingenious. I know because I've been in the operating room for various surgeries when I interned.

I think the main issue here is that surgical Penis Enlargement isn't easy.

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I totally agree. That's what I meant to imply. The concepts are simple, the application needs to work with so many dynamics that it is extremely challenging and since it is done by humans then each time it is like a new challenge all over again.

Can you think of a good surgical procedure that isn't offered? If you can then you should market it,

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I may have just thought of one and or expanded on what others have thought but I'm not sure. I'm sure part of the penile surgical community is very risk averse and thus they don't even like to think about some new techniques let alone experiment with them. I mean, it is somebody else's manhood itself that you are putting at risk.

if you can't then you have no business expecting others to have thought of something.

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I hope this wasn't meant to chastise. I didn't expect others to have thought of something, the opening poster did. And, thinking about it more, I think it is always reasonable to expect improvements or the world would be much less evolved or improved than it is. I don't think it is reasonable to chastise anybody either way in circumstances like this because it is right for people to want the service and it is right that it is challenging to the medical community and not just some simple and proven plan that they are neglecting. Though the genuine manual internal penis pump/dilation/overinflation of the corpa cavernosa idea could be argued to be the latter because the concept is proven in the manual-non-surgical Penis Enlargement community and it would be the best CHANCE at practical and safe surgical improvement in my opinion.

ALSO, it is upsetting to observe people in the surgical community who reject the works of people like DLD as fraudsters and deny the real world results and I have seen that seem to be the current general consensus of the surgical community, and seen multiples of individual surgeons and physicians of various sorts denounce the concept even though some are "warming up to it" ... possibly because it does steal their business or they simply don't look into it enough. HOWEVER, they COULD realize that the real world results are consistant and try to implement the proven concept surgically and bring business to them as I have already theorized with the opening poster by decreasing the time and effort needed to force-grow the corpa cavernosa by over-inflating the existing corpa cavernosa with some sort of IV-like procedure pumping blood or some sort of healthy fluid into the "CC chambers".

pyro said:

I think the problem with the penis is.. when is enough enough? will every man be 8 inches? doesnt seem fair. Seems ridiculous.

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I thought about this for a while. Sure, every one of us wants to kinda keep real penis enlargment techniques to ourselves when they find them. Some of us decide we want to share to select people, some of us don't want to share it with anyone, few of us decide they want to tell everyone.

1) Some dicks are too big to please some women and I'm not just talkinga bout 10+ inch long and 8+ inch around dicks. I know plenty of girls who say that even 7.5 inches long and 5.5 inches around and they say if it were thinner or shorter then they would get off faster and have less pain and they know from using their dildos or whatever. Not all chicks are the same. Psychologically, they love looking at a big dick, but whether they link it to bad feelings or good feelings is the difference.

2) If every guy had a big dick, then it would actually probably still workout even better because it will give women more choices in a satisfying partner and give men a more even playing field as well so more choices for them as well. Relationships will be built on more of what they should be built on: mind, heart and soul. Flings will be better for everyone. Chicks will stop leaving "the perfect guy" for the bigger dick and cheating for the bigger dick and screwing up marriages. Guys will stop losing chicks due to lack of confidence in their penis size etc. More guys will realize that they have to have more than a great body and more women will realize that they can choose more than a great body. So, overall, it would probably be much better if all guys were the size they and their partners wanted them to be even if that meant that some no longer had this "unfair advantage".
By the way, it would still come down to being able to afford it and putting in the effort, though I'm sure many guys would do what they needed to do.

I want to add that penis surgeons already support hanging and possibly even stretchers (traction in general) when it fits into their surgical business model. This is evident because after they snip the suspending ligament they still tell the patient to hang weights on their penis for some extended period of time. They say it is to make sure that the penis does not revert into the pubic bone/body now that it is not held in place, but if the thing is permanently detchaced then it seems like it could eventually do it even if you hang for year and when you add this theory with the fact that these people should be intelligent and aware enough by now to see real world results from traction on the penis then it is logical that they realize that hanging can actually stretch the skin and corpa cavernosa so they use it for added benefit in addition to the ligament snip for that reason.

By the way, if anyone reads this and has had their suspending ligement snipped ... please tell us about how it actually feels in the real world. People talk about instability or downward point erections, but I've never conversed with a person who actually had it done and can talk about what it is like on a daily basis and during sex in comparison to normal ligaments.

to the guys bitching about ego's, when your dick is too small to feel anything when fucking a petite virgin, then you come talk to me about ego.

The Draven said:

to the guys bitching about ego's, when your dick is too small to feel anything when fucking a petite virgin, then you come talk to me about ego.

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I don't mean to preach, but Draven has a point and I'll stick up for him.

The man has tried to explain that his dick is too small for intercourse and some of you may think you are helping but are in fact just being insensitive assholes. "Can't be"?... BULL SHIT. Evere heard of Micro Penis?
"MICRO Penis EnlargementNIS" - Google Search
Or how about Hidden Penis?
Examples
More info and pics:
Photos of Surgical Penis Enlargement, Penis Lengthening, Glanular Enhancement and Penis Widening Surgery by Phalloplasty Surgeon E. Douglas Whitehead, M.D.

Some guys get a random deal of genetically fucked up cards and have to suffer through that shit. In reality, these are probably some of the most mentally manly men, because they have to endure through that shit. Then there are plenty of people like me on this forum whining that our 7 inch cocks aren't big enough and even worse plenty of women making men feel that you ain't got a needle in your pants if it ain't at least 8 inches long. Then the same bitches cry about how men and society want them to be skinny.
The reality is that there are some shitty sides to life and when you tell people that their situation can't possibly be as bad as they tell you it is, whether you mean to encourage them to overcome it or not, you have to realize that you may be being one of the biggest assholes these people have ever had to deal with.

If you had a micro dick, hidden penis or something small enough to be able to insist that your dick is actually too small for intercourse and you don't feel much when penetrating a vagina ... then you'd be more concerned with surgery than wanking on your man meat for a year to get a chance at gaining and inch too. And then consider that some men actually have to work long hours to get money to stay alive and not everybody on this forum is living off of somebody else money ... you might realize that the time, money and energy some of these people lack could also justify surgery.

To each his own. Not everybody is in the same physical, mental or situational situation and life can really be short so stop acting like none of that is true.

With that said, maybe Draven just wanted a conversation without having to dislcose his size so be mindful of that. Best to you Draven. Do whatever makes you happy. Surgery is not ideal but if you feel you have to do it then go for it.

my penis is really small and I would like magic surgery to make it bigger.

The problem is, if there is magic surgery to make it bigger, then there will be magic surgery to make other guys bigger.

Like sure, I could make my 4.9 incher up to 7 inches to compete with normal guys, but then those normal guys could make theirs 10 inches and then blow me away.

so no... if there is eever any magic bullet to penis enlargement, I think it should be used to make small guys bigger, and not make bigger guys bigger. Like it should be free to ppl with small penises, but charge $$$,$$$ to people that already have big ones

misterious said:

so no... if there is eever any magic bullet to penis enlargement, I think it should be used to make small guys bigger, and not make bigger guys bigger. Like it should be free to ppl with small penises, but charge $$$,$$$ to people that already have big ones

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I disagree with this. I think this is too selfish for your health. I understand your insecurity though. I wrote my thoughts on this, above:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forumn...isnt-successful-penis-surgery.html#post257007 .

I do think people with smaller dicks should be primary candidates, but anybody should be able to do it if they want and there is a point where some chicks prefer "smaller" dicks.

The idea of pumping it up 3 inches all at once might be a bad idea, though. There's a ton of nerve endings in the tunica, and I've heard that too much expansion too quickly will completely kill your nerves and give you ED. On the other hand some have seen enlargement from priapism and still retain function. Perhaps the ones retaining function are those who had many cases of priapism and enlarged over time. It might be interesting to find out, if anyone has puBathmateed access.

spinner2 said:

The idea of pumping it up 3 inches all at once might be a bad idea, though. There's a ton of nerve endings in the tunica, and I've heard that too much expansion too quickly will completely kill your nerves and give you ED. On the other hand some have seen enlargement from priapism and still retain function. Perhaps the ones retaining function are those who had many cases of priapism and enlarged over time. It might be interesting to find out, if anyone has puBathmateed access.

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Yeah, I agree. 3 inches may be TOO MUCH to overinflate each time, but 1-2 inches of forced growth from INSIDE in all directions is more reasonable and the efficiency of the expansion could make for GREAT gains, especially if included with a good mastery of the DHT, IGF, PGE etc stuff that people are getting good results with.

But, what about that other "gruesome procedure where they added 2 inches" that you were talking about? I'm interested to know more of what that was about just to learn and se if it was really anything new.

The Draven said:

I dont understand why doctors haven't come up with a new successful way of making a man's penis bigger. They know how to put men on the moon, cure diseases, give you new body parts and give you hard ons and bigger muscles but not a bigger dick?

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There are already several different surguries that on can get to lengthen and/or thicken the penis. These surguries are becoming very common here in the Los Angeles area where doctors actually specialize in the procedures.

Can't they just chop a big dick off a dead guy and give it to one of us?

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They can do this but like any other organ replacement, it's major surgury. The problem with any major surgury is the risk of the body rejecting the organ... if that happened with penis replacement, you would end up with no dick at all... i'd would personally have a small dick than no dick.

Also, personally i don't really want someone else's dick on my body... regardless of how big it is.

put you in a hospital, pump your dick up so huge that it's like 3 inches bigger in length and girth and pump you full of anestheia and viagara everyday for like a week solid, then give you a few weeks to recover then do it again once a month for a year and then boom, you got super mega penis?

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There are doctors that now beginning to offer a a chemical Penis Enlargement method based on the Penis Enlargement patent. Unfortunately, you have to go to Canada to get on the program.

You can't just pump the penis up and make it bigger as you run the risk of damaging tissues so while your dick may be big, it's not going to work.

The way i see it... if this shit was easy, every guy would have a big dick. I like things just the way they are... I like the fact that through dedication and hard work my dick is bigger than most guys.