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Sounds easy right most people can say they believe,But do we really believe?
Something I've been asking myself was how all those civilizations before they knew about God were damned, punished,forgiven, if Jesus had not come to this planet, specifically People like the nordics in europe,or any other tribes such as the celts etc the same question for the amerindian tribes aztecs, mayans,or any other tribes that inhabited in America
They didn't know about Christianity the way is known in America until the conquerors arrived,the same Whit the European tribes they were colonized by the Roman empire n they accepted catholicism as their main religion right?
How was life before Christianity for them they have their own "concepts" cosmogony about hell heaven and sin. and it's now a mixture of their beliefs and Christianity.
How things worked for them before they know about Christianity and all the things involved around Christianity
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It wasn't.
Believing in a belief, is not the same as believing in knowledge. Today we are expected or asked to believe in a belief. Before, specially when Jesus was still walking on earth, humans were expected to believe in the factual knowledge that was true, unchanged, fresh, detailed, non manipulated.
You wonder how was in the past, before christianity. Well, christianity as we know it today is rather new. It was invented by the Roman Empire under Emperor Constantine, 5th Century AD. Christianity existed already before, born during the life of Jesus, but it was considered more like a sect. A pagan belief. When this movement started growing, the empire tried to kill them, prosecute them, but they never succeeded. Eventually Constantine came up with the idea of confiscating all the documents, books, and modify this religion for the convenience of the Empire, making the Emperor the representative of God on Earth, and christianity the official religion of the state. All those who did not believe or question it, would be prosecuted by the sword. And that is how you had it deep embedded in all the rest to follow after.
Now, what about before. Well, before this Roman invention, it was never a belief. It was never a belief of a God. Rather, it was pure 100% knowledge of The Gods. All ancient civilizations, all around the world, no matter where you go, had the same knowledge of a Pantheon of ruling Gods who came to earth in antiquity and created us. In their image after their likeness to work for them. For hundreds of thousands of years they ruled the earth, until eventually the kingdom was passed from the heavens to earth, to mortal humans. At which point the slowly left, promising to some day return in glory and majesty. They left in presence, but they have always been monitoring the progression of the creation.
The story begun around 450,000 years ago. An ancient race in the galaxy called the Anunnaki, was look for gold. Massive amounts of gold. After coming across the Solar system and sending probes to earth, they discovered this planet was full of gold. They sent the first expeditions under the command of 2 beings. Enlil and Enki. Brothers, sons of the almighty Anu. Enlil was given the rule over the waters, while Enki was given the earth. But this 2 brothers were much different and were constantly fighting with each other for power.
This is a story of hundreds of thousands of years. It is difficult to focus yourself into perspective because of the massive amount of time, time that for us is inconceivable and hard to understand due to our lifespan which is at most around 120 years. These beings are immortal.
Many Anunnaki were brought here to work the mines digging gold. The atmospheric conditions such as levels of oxygen, air pressure, gravity, was killing them. They revolted, and that is when Enki came up with the idea of creating a worker. He took the primitive species of homo erectus, and mixed their DNA with it. 30% Anunnaki, 70% primate. And he created the homo sapiens, us. In their image, after their likeness. Multiple creations took place. The first one took place in southern Africa. This people were known to later civilizations as the black heads, because they were created black. Hundreds of thousands of years went by, with multiple kings (Gods) ruling the earth for thousands of years each, until the great flood. Only after the great flood, The Gods came down once again and passed the kingdom to humans for the first time, and that is when the first human civilizations were born such as the Sumerian, Babylonians, Egyptians, Akkadians, Hindus, Mayans, Aztecs, etc.
That is just a short version of the full story. How do we know all this? Well, the oldest known civilization known on earth was the Sumerian, where today is Southern Iraq. Ancient Mesopotamia. About 250 years ago a team of archeologists discovered in that area thousands of Sumerian clay tables in Sumerian cuneiform language. Nobody could translate them so they sat at the British museum for some 150 years. Until Sumerian was finally deciphered. From those clay tablets, perfectly preserved, written during the time when the Gods were still on earth walking along humans, is that we know all they knowledge they had in the past.
These clay tablets were not written by some fanatic inventing science fiction, they were written in a span of thousands of years by what it was know in antiquity as the scribe. The scribe was appointed by the God ruling the city, eventually the human king, specifically to write the daily experiences in the city, daily knowledge, daily news, or, depending of the instructions of the king, writing origins and history of the civilization.
For more information read on google "Sumerian king list", "Enuma Elish", "Atrahasis", and other books.
Complete translations were made by bible scholar Zecharia Sitchin, one of the first Sumerian translators, in his book series "The earth chronicles"
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Life before Christianity was Judaism. Jesus Christ coming was the fulfillment of scripture which would put an end to Jewish law and All would be saved by the name of Jesus Christ who believe. Religion confuses all of this, it is very simple believe in Jesus Christ and that he died for you I was brought back to life for you and you will have eternal life. There are no other laws or rules you need to fulfill as Jesus has already done that for you. You only need to say yes to Jesus and you are saved once and for all. Prior to Judaism was Adam and Eve
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Judaism began with Moses.
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Now everything is clearing up ok according to history the amerindian civilizations crossed the bering strait are they part of the tribe of moses too then ?
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Family lists and genealogies are a prominent part of 1 and 2 Chronicles and other Old Testament books. These genealogies were obviously important to Israel, and the Jews kept meticulous records.
One reason family history was important to Israel is that it proved one’s identity as a Jew, a partaker of the blessings of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and part of the people chosen by God. If a person was not a Jew, he or she could not truly be a Jewish citizen and participate in all of the aspects of Jewish life and culture.
Family history was also important due to where one lived. Each of the Jewish tribes had received a land inheritance in Israel. For a person to inherit land in a particular tribal area required evidence that he was descended from that particular tribe.
Genealogies were essential to proving whether a Jewish male could serve in the Levitical priesthood. Priests could only be from the tribe of Levi and descendants of Aaron, the brother of Moses. If a man could not prove this connection, he was unable to serve as a priest.
A family’s history could also show an affiliation with people of significance. Today, people delight in finding proof that their ancestors are famous people, such as John Adams or Wyatt Earp. In the same way, a Jew descended from someone like Moses or Gideon was considered to possess a significant blessing.
Genealogies emphasized the importance of the family unit in Jewish culture. Traditional Jewish culture emphasized marriage between a man and a woman who were responsible for raising children and continuing the legacy of their family with the next generation. The Jews took seriously their responsibility to continue the line that would bring honor to the family name.
Finally, the genealogies of the Jews were important in tracing the line of the Messiah. The Old Testament made it clear that the Messiah would be the Son of David (see Matthew 22:42), so records of family history were vital. Matthew and Luke both include genealogies of Jesus in their Gospels to show Jesus’ connection to David. Matthew’s Gospel, written for Jews, traces Jesus’ genealogy to Abraham. Luke’s Gospel, written for Gentiles, traces Jesus’ genealogy all the way back to Adam.
One reason family history was important to Israel is that it proved one’s identity as a Jew, a partaker of the blessings of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and part of the people chosen by God. If a person was not a Jew, he or she could not truly be a Jewish citizen and participate in all of the aspects of Jewish life and culture.
Family history was also important due to where one lived. Each of the Jewish tribes had received a land inheritance in Israel. For a person to inherit land in a particular tribal area required evidence that he was descended from that particular tribe.
Genealogies were essential to proving whether a Jewish male could serve in the Levitical priesthood. Priests could only be from the tribe of Levi and descendants of Aaron, the brother of Moses. If a man could not prove this connection, he was unable to serve as a priest.
A family’s history could also show an affiliation with people of significance. Today, people delight in finding proof that their ancestors are famous people, such as John Adams or Wyatt Earp. In the same way, a Jew descended from someone like Moses or Gideon was considered to possess a significant blessing.
Genealogies emphasized the importance of the family unit in Jewish culture. Traditional Jewish culture emphasized marriage between a man and a woman who were responsible for raising children and continuing the legacy of their family with the next generation. The Jews took seriously their responsibility to continue the line that would bring honor to the family name.
Finally, the genealogies of the Jews were important in tracing the line of the Messiah. The Old Testament made it clear that the Messiah would be the Son of David (see Matthew 22:42), so records of family history were vital. Matthew and Luke both include genealogies of Jesus in their Gospels to show Jesus’ connection to David. Matthew’s Gospel, written for Jews, traces Jesus’ genealogy to Abraham. Luke’s Gospel, written for Gentiles, traces Jesus’ genealogy all the way back to Adam.
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That means that Gods seed was spreaded already throughout the world way before jesus came to earth
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“Abrahams faith was counted as righteousness” Abraham was not a Jew, he pre-dated Moses. So yes God seed was spread through Abraham.
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Very interesting part of history That means we all are 0,0001% Jewish LOL LOL
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We all came from the same two parents Adam and Eve. Where religion started would be with Abraham as he is the patriarch of Christianity, his wife Sarah is the matriarch of Judaism and their bastard son Ishmael is the patriarch of the Muslim faith.
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Was she chosen by God to be mother of judaism?But judaism doesn't believe that jesus came to earth 2000 years ago n they are still waiting for jesus..?
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In the beginning Jesus actually did not come to the earth to save us, he came to save the Jews. It was only after the Holy Father Gave us, the Gentiles, to Jesus. “ I give you a people that were not your people that you have made your people“ The Jews rejected Jesus and the Gentiles accepted him and this is where the new covenant began.
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Christians are children of the new covenant. The old covenant belongs to the Jews and that covenant contain 613 laws they had to live by. The new covenant has only to love God above all things and love each other as God has loved you
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My uncle told me a story I don't how true or if he was imagining things God knows..
But he told me that his great grandfather might be jewish...God knows where he had that info from LOL
But he told me that his great grandfather might be jewish...God knows where he had that info from LOL
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God will not destroy humankind anytime soon,as we have learned to destroy ourselves, God will not come anytime soon either..we will die and he will judge us,but we'll be punished for the pain we cause to others here on Earth,I don't think no one will get away clean if they have evil n deceitful intentions..
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You have already been judged! You are a saint and you’re only waiting for the redemption of your body.
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