Creatine vs. Whey Protein

yea why would you combine casein and whey? Whey is a fast dissovling protein while casein is slow. Try caseins and ANPB (all natural peanut butter)
 
O snap i forgot add OATS!! good insoluble fiber (so you feel full), and good carbs and protein.
 
Your body will use up the whey pretty quickly, so some believe the casein/whey combo gets your muscles a constant supply of protein, since the casein is not absorbed as quickly.
I have used creatine, and I didn't notice very much of a difference. But some people I know got great results with it. Depends on you, since we're all different. I may try it again soon, just to see if I get better results. I don't carry much water weight, so maybe that made a difference.
 
TheExecutioner said:
I dont think we should vs Creatine to protein. Protein is Essential to Body building else your muscles cannot rebuild, efficiently. I think if we were to get the best benefits from these supplements would be to use both. Not one or the other!!
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I agree. Dr. David Williams also recommends taking some creatine every day. It's good for you, whether or not you work out. As for creatine causing joint problems, it doesn't. Some guys just injure their joints and blame it on the creatine. As far as drinking lots and lots of water-- well, that depends on each individual, how much creatine they are taking, etc. And usually when creatine is taken, so also are other powders, like whey and all the stuff they add to that.

I've been taking creatrine for some time, now, and feel fine. Have also lost 1" around the waist and gained it elsewhere, but I don't really get a serious workout. I just have a bowflex, and might take 30 minutes, about 3 times/week.
 
prince Albert said:
Why do you think its worth paying the extra for a protien supplement there all pretty much the same regardless of hype,if youv'e got extra cash to spend buy real solid food.
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Haven't we been through this one before?

I don't always have time to sit down and have a solid meal. Some protein powder and flax seeds provides a good alternative when, for example, I have 6 hours of class straight. I can't exactly bring chicken and a salad. Also, protein powder is cheaper per gram of protein than solid food so it's an easy way to get the extra amount I need.

Pretty much the same? I don't think so. But like many things, we can disagree with each other here too.
 
It takes 30 sec to drink a shake after a gym workout, but give fast digesting protein so your body can use it right away, were it needs it.

Whey is just a great helper. If you allready can afford to eat well (I think about anyone with an internet connection can manage to do this) and is wealthy enough to buy whey, they should IMO. Sure if you arnt training at all, you'll get some fat huh, plz don't be stupid there :p.
 
if your gonna have a MRP shake you should use casein instead of whey. Digest slower.
 
9cyclops9 said:
Haven't we been through this one before?

I don't always have time to sit down and have a solid meal. Some protein powder and flax seeds provides a good alternative when, for example, I have 6 hours of class straight. I can't exactly bring chicken and a salad. Also, protein powder is cheaper per gram of protein than solid food so it's an easy way to get the extra amount I need.

Pretty much the same? I don't think so. But like many things, we can disagree with each other here too.
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I wasn't asking why use a protien shake i get through 4 a day myself,i was asking why you think its worth paying the extra for that particular brand as you said its a little pricey but worth it IMO,how much higher quality is it?
 
prince Albert said:
I wasn't asking why use a protien shake i get through 4 a day myself,i was asking why you think its worth paying the extra for that particular brand as you said its a little pricey but worth it IMO,how much higher quality is it?
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Oh. I must have been thinking about someone else. My bad.

For me, it's worth the price because of the taste and because it has a lot micellar casein. Micellar casein is slower than calcium caseinate or other slow proteins so I feel full longer.

If more of my meals were shakes, I'd probably use something else due to the price, however. But most of my meals are solid food unless I've got something getting in the way, like long hours at class or in the lab, so I really don't use a whole lot.
 
Formysweetie said:
I agree. Dr. David Williams also recommends taking some creatine every day. It's good for you, whether or not you work out. As for creatine causing joint problems, it doesn't. Some guys just injure their joints and blame it on the creatine. As far as drinking lots and lots of water-- well, that depends on each individual, how much creatine they are taking, etc. And usually when creatine is taken, so also are other powders, like whey and all the stuff they add to that.

I've been taking creatrine for some time, now, and feel fine. Have also lost 1" around the waist and gained it elsewhere, but I don't really get a serious workout. I just have a bowflex, and might take 30 minutes, about 3 times/week.
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Its wrong to say its from the creatine if nething creatine monohydrate causes water retention...if u were taking CEE maybe but it wasnt from the creatine is was from the bowflex and better eating habbits

as for the original question these are 2 different things none of them "build" bulky muscle they only aid in building muscle IMO buy the whey drop the creatine I took up to 20-30grams a day straight for 1.5 months and noticed nothing I took atp,creatine atp and mono with all the things like taurine ,dextrose, ALA etc... the one thing I might give a try is Creatine ethyl ester (CEE) this is supposed to work for people like me who havent seen results from regular creatine

if u can only buy 1 go for the whey it has many benefits
 
DWTS00 said:
the one thing I might give a try is Creatine ethyl ester (CEE) this is supposed to work for people like me who havent seen results from regular creatine

if u can only buy 1 go for the whey it has many benefits
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OK, good point! There are different kinds of creatine, and different kinds work differently for different body types.
 
I'm thinking about trying the CEE myself, since monohydrate didn't do anything for me. But I don't know. I'm doing well right now just eating lots o' good food. If I flatten out, I'll probly go for it.
 
AlreadyPackin' said:
I'm thinking about trying the CEE myself, since monohydrate didn't do anything for me. But I don't know. I'm doing well right now just eating lots o' good food. If I flatten out, I'll probly go for it.
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Lots of people swear by CEE even people like us who havent seen any improvement from taking regular creatine and in my case for 1.5 months approx taking 20-30grams with Dex.

If your cutting I wouldnt suggest you take it, but after ur done cutting or if ur bulking now adding CEE should help a bit according to them

also Add some vasidolaters(sp?) and NOX2 people swear by those for increased pump and feeling like you can lift anything in the gym you know that pumped up feeling where everything seems lighter???
 
9cyclops9 said:
Oh. I must have been thinking about someone else. My bad.

For me, it's worth the price because of the taste and because it has a lot micellar casein. Micellar casein is slower than calcium caseinate or other slow proteins so I feel full longer.

If more of my meals were shakes, I'd probably use something else due to the price, however. But most of my meals are solid food unless I've got something getting in the way, like long hours at class or in the lab, so I really don't use a whole lot.
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Ok i see.
 
DWTS00 said:
also Add some vasidolaters(sp?) and NOX2 people swear by those for increased pump and feeling like you can lift anything in the gym you know that pumped up feeling where everything seems lighter???
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The best feedback I have ever seen was using the BSN stack. Using all 3 is okay, but I have heard from others who have experience with the stack mention that you only need the Cell-Mass and NO-Xplode, whereas the Nitrix is not necessary.
 
Can't edit my post, sorry...

Forgot to say that most that I have heard from say the stack only works well while your on it and some dudes have noticeable changes, but once you stop taking it your back to the norm.
 
But while ur taking it, you are training harder, which means bigger results at the end. What your friend meant is that since you stop those supplements, their effect will stop.
 
I'm not an expert on protein, but it tastes great, mixes easy and delivers 20 grams of protein per serving.
 
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