What is rest worth?

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There alot of guys who Penis Enlargement daily. Some have days off alot. Some take breaks for weeks or a full month and have had gains with this. I have a long history of weight training so I fully understand the "grow when you rest" stuff. I dont want to throw myself in a ditch by taking days off if I dont need to or doing it daily when my hammer needs rest. So can someone explian a few things:

1) What type of routine do you follow right now(1on/1off,daily,etc.)
2)How does the penis grow from Penis Enlargement....FACTS PLEASE!
3)if you tried more than 1 routine schedule what do you think works best?
4) My flaccid size is not that big and i dont get sore from Penis Enlargement so I cant tell if my unit is overtrained it or not. What are signs that rest is needed?
 
4) signs of rest - lack of 'morning wood'
- weaker erections
- pain, numbness, bruising etc

I'm still waiting to see gains and have been into Penis Enlargement for a while now. I'm afraid nobody really knows the scientific answers to a lot of Penis Enlargement as it's still early days in the art, it's believed that the penis grows from cell division and growth in the smooth muscle tissue and from the ligaments. What we could do with is a Penis Enlargement version of Mentzer
 
I personally tend to train my dick 4-5 days a week ie 5 on, 2 off, or 2on 1 off 2on 2off. As your dick becomes more accustomed to the training and you don't get any signs of overtraining you can train more days a week with less rest. Check out Aaron Kemmers book on amazon, all the advice I've been able to give so far can be found in his book
 
yeah, sometimes i do 6 days on with 1 day off. I'm under the impression that as long as you don't get any negative feedback and still have good erections the you probably don't need a break. Here's a bit more on the possitive and negative signals from Penis Enlargement that I'd posted on another forum
I'd read this previously on the pegym forum, anyway reading Kemmers book reminded me of these great points to help you make gains. If you're doing a manual Penis Enlargement routine then take this into account:

Possitive feedback - helpful for gains

-stronger erections
-more frequent erections throughout the night
-waking up in morning with a boner
-good flacid elasticity
-fatigue along the penis
-temporary increase in size after a workout
-increase in growth

negative feedback - unhealthy for gains

-weaker erections
-Less frequent erections at night
-abscense of morning with an erection
-smaller flacid size
-less flacid elasticity
-lack of sensation, or/and numbness
-bruising
-pain
-decrease in size

If for example you experience only possitive feedback and experience little to no growth, then chances are that you need to increase the intensity or/and frequency of your workouts. By changing to more advanced techniques, increasing the duration, or increasing the number of days per week that you exercise your penis you will be back on track to making gains.

If you were to experience negative feedback, such as waking up in the morning with temporary erectile-dysfuction, or generally not being able to achieve the same rock hard erections then you are clearly overtraining your unit. You would need to take some time off and then resume traing with less reps/duration, fewer days per week or/and decreased intensity of the workouts.

The secret should be to try and aim for a level of intensity whereby you experience possitive feedback signals and growth, too little or too much isn't the idea, rather a balance between the two. You need to increase the intensity as you progress, just keep those negative feedback signals in check.
 
ALOT of the things you listed under negative are things I had before I even started to Penis Enlargement and I thought my cock was unhealthy or weak so thats what got my into Penis Enlargement. I currently dont get morning wood EVER and almost every sign of overtraining are things I had before ever doing exercises. My EQ is up and down all the time so I cant judge anything from that. I never get sore from Penis Enlargement. I would like to Penis Enlargement daily but I dont want to risk hurting my gains in the long run
 
Mdoc, glad to see a fan of Mentzer he was a great guy in bodybuilding and spoke such truth that many arseholes will never understand him or wont want to understand. I use similer ways he trained in my Penis Enlargement as you may know reading my stuff I do my Penis Enlargement the HIT way if you will and not the typical HVT manner of doing things around here and on most other forums. Rest is VITAL and all the body needs is the right amount of stimulation to get it to grow and that is not much. How many times I have written this, I've lost count due do so many ignorant jerks but I gained from 8 - 8.3 inches in erect length in 8 weeks. I did 19 sessions in that time which averages just ... JUST TWO eachweek and the most they lasted was 45 minutes with many going for 20 - 30 minutes. SMART LOGICAL training is what its all about but like bodybuilding it doesnt catch on because more is always seen as better like with more power on a car, bigger dicks like mandingos, more exercises in bodybuilding, doing longer sessions, doing more sessions in the week ... it all amounts to a load of old shit to me. Train with your brain guys ... if you have one.
 
If rest was that important why are there not more guys who use a (1on,1off/1on,2off) programs. If rest was so important I would think alot of guys wouldnt even do 2 days in a row if they value rest so highly. Im just throwing a few things out there because I believe both sides of the table could be right on this one and would hope more people would jump in on the discussion.
 
Listen to your dick. If your EQ is still 100% when ordered to solute then your good. If your dick starts to go on strike when you order it to solute then you need to incorporate rest days accordenly. Some people need rest and some don't.

Look at DLD. He Penis Enlargement's everyday and look at where he's at.
On the other side of the spectrum look at REDZULU2003. He has rest days and look at where he's at.
It all depends on your dick.
 
Frequency varies from man to man. I never took a day off, shit I barely took an hour off and it really benefitted me. I love doing Penis Enlargement so it was never a chore but as some have said, time off works for others. Find your perfect vibration and go with it. In my opinion, the penis does not really need rest but that is just me.
 
Girth Hammer;344084 said:
If rest was that important why are there not more guys who use a (1on,1off/1on,2off) programs. If rest was so important I would think alot of guys wouldnt even do 2 days in a row if they value rest so highly. Im just throwing a few things out there because I believe both sides of the table could be right on this one and would hope more people would jump in on the discussion.
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You class yourself as a fitness guru so you should know how important rest is ;) I myself know allot of about the methods used in weightlifting.

The penis needs rest, its part of the body and when its stressed which Penis Enlargement does to it, that stress overtime will do it no good. Someguys can take longer than others but why do most train like they do you ask if rest is so important? because like in bodybuilding its the in thing and seen as the best way to go because everyone does it :s its like with anything in life if we see most other people doing the same, we follow ... called being steady Eddy rofl British term of someone who doesnt take a risk and go agaist the grain to whats being done or sitting on the fence getting splinters in your arse.

Ignorance plays a part aswell but hey I dont give a toss anymore rofl as I'm going to focus more on ME ... I'm gaining well with my methods that are proven, look through all my routines my freind going back years. Newbies can gain on anything for a set amount of time so those doing 5 on or 7 on will do fine as the penis has never had stimulation but as you get more experienced it becomes harder to gain and you are more easily succome to injury.

I train how I train not to cause ripples in the Penis Enlargement world, because to be honest I now dont give a shit what otherguys do anymore from my advice as most either give up or dont do it anyway, so be it with them. I do what I do because I have used the more is best approach and sure it worked at first but than it doesnt. Logical thinking is what is needed and start to train with our brains and not our ego or insecurities that we must train otherwise we will lose it rofl

Lots of these guys in the gym who go through the motions with the same bullshit routine year after year hardly gain anything as they advance. They spend loads of cash on gym membership and hardly have anything to show for it. This is a large reason why guys hit the juice. Those on juice can gain from mostly any routine they do so they are not incl in this. Speaking about the normal guy here who doesnt use steroids. Eventually he gets bored and quiets when he needn't be if he trained SMART and stopped buying those shit magazines aswell which are full of bullshit to sell the damn thing.

Listen or buy Arthur Jones aduio semenar, he speaks the truth as it is ... many wont like him because he blows out the water what you have implanted in your head with regards to fitness but he knew his stuff. I'm the Arthur Jones of Penis Enlargement ;)
 
RED,quick question do you hot wrap on off days? part of me thinks hot wraps help WAY more important than others. I spend about 10 minutes pre/15 minutes post and get great results from changing my hot wrap time longer. Also I will do a 2on/1off to test out his rest stuff. I use to exercise about a hour each day now since i will be resting more can I add another 15 minutes to the 2 day I do train?
 
Girth Hammer;344484 said:
What do you guys do when you get to the PONR to calm yourself down? I will breathe deep and stop the edging but after getting to the PONR 3-4 times sometimes my cock will just pump the nut out on its own even if Im not touching it.
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you have to do what I call, "plateauing the pleasure" and that is basically coasting and just floating at the PONR and keeping a steady stimulation that allows your pc muscle to not spazz and blow a nut, or you can do something like doing a stroke every 3 seconds, whatever is necessary to keep you from blowing but keep you at the PONR.


also wear a hairtie behind the balls for a cockring.. it will go do wonders.
 
It isnt just the penis your resting. When you hit the gym and blitz the muscles than rest afterwards it isnt just the muscles that are resting, but your entire biological systems that are working overtime to manage the massive energy surge placed on it.

The human body is GREAT at keeping its reserved energy, it does not want to part with it and is why you need to literally force growth at the gym and lift that heavy iron, digging deep into your hidden reserves of energy.

Your organs are also resting such as the pancreas, liver, kidneys, heart etc as lots of stress are placed on them when you do gym work. Now as you say Penis Enlargement is different to gym work and one obvious difference is we arent breathing heavy or useing most of the body like in the gym, so not as much whole body stress ... however and I have NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF here, just my opinion, when the penis has been exercised it too has dug into some of the bodies reserve energy and this can be higher with the more intensity you use in the session.

I THINK that it places more stress on the circulation, nerve and hormonal systems. You need the good circulation for the erection and indeed good nerve impulse for the erection, the horomones are self explanatory. I dont know how deep Penis Enlargement workouts would dig into the bodies system but they will dig in, it has to for the body to ADAPT to the STRESS and change to it, by this change you get new growth ... all that new penis growth was caused from STRESS placed on the body that it had to adapt to and when it was adapting to this, it was digging into the bodies reserves of energy ... if someone did Penis Enlargement for too long than this could cause problems such as overtraining, weak erections, poor sex drive, more injuries, lack of interest in doing the routines, loss of gains etc etc.

So the penis is treated like a muscle by guys like me not because of misconceptions about it being the same muscle type we work in the gym, but because its adaptation and recovery is the same as everything else in the human body ... it NEEDS chance to adapt to the stimulation placed upon it, to heal and recover from that than to grow after the healing has taken place.

Guys who exercise with low intensity wont need to take as many breaks imo because they arent digging too deep in the reserves to really warrant long periods of rest and sleep will aid them but in the longrun if someone does train day in and day out with no rest, they WILL hit a brickwall and if they dont and never hit a plateu than they are one off miracles to god, because it just wont happen ... the body will eventually need to stop it on its own, and hence the plateu kicks in for the body to tell you to back the fuck off.
 
GOOD POINTS RED, I stress this to my buddies all the time. just because your not training the same muscle in the gym each time you go there your body and CNS is taking a beating(these 2 things control if you heal or not). One thing ALL guys need to realize when it comes to muscles and your penis is that your body has to heal EVERYTHING in your body. So let it rest from everything so it can do its job. (Ex. we all know a overworked mom who cooks,works,cleans,watches kids,etc. Even if you help with a few things she still needs a breaks from all these things to get her mind right). and remember if you break anything down it needs time to heal so if your training that while it is trying to heal your digging yourself a grave of no results(overtraining).
 
Great to know someone actually knows his stuff on fitness! I would like to hear your stories, tips and equipment you use in the health section. I got some stickies where some can go.

Yes the CNS does play a massive part on healing which many will say it doesnt blah blah blah but hey if your juiced to the gills than the system will show gains and I LOVE IT when these kids who take the smarties comeback to the gym a month later when they stop and are skinny bastards like they were when they started ... its because they know fuck all about fitness, physiology, kinesiology, biology and they lack a sense of logical thinking ... in a nutshell most are monkeys lol
 
yes your penis grow when you rest. your cells were stretched and now have to get stronger my growing and giving you more inches if you were pumping or stretching.
 
REDZULU2003;344564 said:
It isnt just the penis your resting. When you hit the gym and blitz the muscles than rest afterwards it isnt just the muscles that are resting, but your entire biological systems that are working overtime to manage the massive energy surge placed on it.

The human body is GREAT at keeping its reserved energy, it does not want to part with it and is why you need to literally force growth at the gym and lift that heavy iron, digging deep into your hidden reserves of energy.

Your organs are also resting such as the pancreas, liver, kidneys, heart etc as lots of stress are placed on them when you do gym work. Now as you say Penis Enlargement is different to gym work and one obvious difference is we arent breathing heavy or useing most of the body like in the gym, so not as much whole body stress ... however and I have NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF here, just my opinion, when the penis has been exercised it too has dug into some of the bodies reserve energy and this can be higher with the more intensity you use in the session.

I THINK that it places more stress on the circulation, nerve and hormonal systems. You need the good circulation for the erection and indeed good nerve impulse for the erection, the horomones are self explanatory. I dont know how deep Penis Enlargement workouts would dig into the bodies system but they will dig in, it has to for the body to ADAPT to the STRESS and change to it, by this change you get new growth ... all that new penis growth was caused from STRESS placed on the body that it had to adapt to and when it was adapting to this, it was digging into the bodies reserves of energy ... if someone did Penis Enlargement for too long than this could cause problems such as overtraining, weak erections, poor sex drive, more injuries, lack of interest in doing the routines, loss of gains etc etc.

So the penis is treated like a muscle by guys like me not because of misconceptions about it being the same muscle type we work in the gym, but because its adaptation and recovery is the same as everything else in the human body ... it NEEDS chance to adapt to the stimulation placed upon it, to heal and recover from that than to grow after the healing has taken place.

Guys who exercise with low intensity wont need to take as many breaks imo because they arent digging too deep in the reserves to really warrant long periods of rest and sleep will aid them but in the longrun if someone does train day in and day out with no rest, they WILL hit a brickwall and if they dont and never hit a plateu than they are one off miracles to god, because it just wont happen ... the body will eventually need to stop it on its own, and hence the plateu kicks in for the body to tell you to back the fuck off.
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I like your theory about the penis needing rest. I work my penis 5-6 days a week (with the thinking that my penis was a seperate issue to my muscles and CNS) and haven't gained anything as of yet. If you could give me a heads up on how your Penis Enlargement workouts and rest days have been routined i'd appreciate it? Thanks ;)
 
Red, maybe you are one of the lucky few that only has one tunica. That thread of few years back about the autopsies of the 28 dead guys showed something like two of them had one tunica, most had two, and the rest had three. If in fact you are one of the lucky ones, fewer sessions would in most likelihood give you progress. But for the extremely unlucky 3 bangers, that might not work so well (or even for the normal guys with two). Of course none of us know how many tunicas our dicks have, or even if in fact the theory that more tunica equals harder gains. On the other hand, who is to say that all tunicas are created equal? Maybe someone with the normal two has thicker, stronger ones than some guy with three. Or maybe someone with one tunica has one hell of a strong kick ass tunica that is tougher than someone with two. Maybe how many tunicas your dick has isn't the only factor in ability to gain, but rather how tough they are.

I have read many times where you refer to guys that don't rest as ignorant or following the crowd. Some are, but maybe some have no choice if they want to see gains in this lifetime.
 
If they have stronger tunicae than just step the intensity up and gains will be seen, the body has no option but to adapt to the stress placed on it if the stimulation is sufficient.

I think your post is shrewd in how its been thought out and typed in that your suggesting I could be 'special' having one tunicae while most men could have 2 or even 3 which hints that what I preach regarding rest being very important in Penis Enlargement, possibly being overhyped.

This boils down to INTENSITY as I also have written about many times. Those who find it hard to gain need to use more intensity but they cant go balls to the wall on a daily basis, day in day out because they will hit a brick wall eventually and thats where the rest days come in.
 
Red, I certainly wasn't ripping you, only asking that you be a little careful when using words like ignorant or "following the crowd".

I started with three on and one off, then two on one off, and now I am switching to one on and one off. My EQ is not what is was or should be. I lift also, and I know and appreciate rest days. As I get older the rest days keep increasing!!!
 
Its okay I didnt take it as you ripping into me, just saying you worded and thought it out rather well.

Do you have a link to the study? I would like to do more research on this tuincae thing.
 
I actually had plans to make a fitness schedule like monday full body at gym, tuesday Penis Enlargement, wednesday full body at gym, thursday Penis Enlargement - you get the picture. Would that be stupid according to your theory? I'm planning on doing both at somewhere near max intensity. Though if Penis Enlargement burdens the CNS system, there is no time to rest.

Since I'm sensing your into bodybuilding too, can I ask what you're doing to prevent this kind of overload? Do you do Penis Enlargement and your regular gym visits on the same day?
 
REDZULU2003;346635 said:
Could be an idea to do it all on the oneday. I do my fitness stuff 2-3 times eachweek and no more.
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If we start to introduce some of the other theories from traditional bodybuilding it adds a whole new approach.

Now forgive me if I'm wrong here, but it has been six months since I had my last workouts. But when bodybuilders end their routine they take a week off, before they start again because it makes the muscles forget what kind of intensity it received under its last workout. Now this allows the body to respond on lower intensity once again and the muscles grows though you're not even lifting your max.

Now I'm not saying that it would be smart to go all the way back to basic stretching, when you've been doing Penis Enlargement for years, but a week off once in a while might make the penis more responding to a workout, once you pick up the training again.

So I get that the penis isn't a muscle and we're streching to cause cell division. Now I haven't been able to figure out how long mitosis actually takes, but there gotta be someone in here who's majored in biologi? It's a pretty important question to ask, because it could be the answer to how long our precious needs to rest.

Also this person could possibly answer if a protein rich diet causes to speed along the mitosis as well as it does to muscle regeneration.
 
ronron234, The week rest is for joints and other stuff. Muscles do not decondition in a week or even a month for that matter. It take a pretty long time for them to decondition.
 
Girth Hammer;346651 said:
ronron234, The week rest is for joints and other stuff. Muscles do not decondition in a week or even a month for that matter. It take a pretty long time for them to decondition.
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Well as you're working out too, it's pretty essential for you also, right? :) If the muscle doesn't decondition at all, than why would you start lower than what is actually your max, once you start again? I'm quite certain that I read that the muscles forget faster than the CNS system, thats why you should take a week off once in a while, when you're stuck at a certain weight. I'm not english, so I really can't say if deconditioning is the word I'm actually talking about.
 
I don't mean any disrespect and I'm not following up on this for the arguments sake, but I did do some intensive reading back in my bodybuilding time, but as I said it's been six months, and if you're quite certain on what you're saying I will rest my case..
 
Girth Hammer;346675 said:
And I read tons of info when it comes to health and muscle building and tons of people say stuff for the hell of it or they follow what the crowd is saying instead of what science says.

here something that explains why it is needed though: READ #4
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html
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Well the strategic deconditioning I believe is what I was talking about. Shouldn't it be possible to include that in pe?

I know this is all hypothetical since this replies to muscle activity, but it does have some similarities. Taken from your link on progressive load:

Over time, the tissue adapts and becomes resistant to the damaging effects of mechanical load

What do you think?
 
I completely understand what your saying but it is alot easier when it comes to weight if your gain strength or not. With Penis Enlargement its hard to tell when gains are coming or slowing down since its takes time. When it comes to weights people do that because they are no longer progressing.

And something I figured I should add is no one fully understands how the penis grows from Penis Enlargement. It would make sense to follow some guidelines of weight training with it but not everything.
 
I have yet to find what type of routine will work for me. Has anyone gained from using rest days,decon,IPR,etc. I have such a hard time taking days cause I dont know what works for me yet.
 
Thats because you dont give it enough time to allow anything to work.
You should have a routine or plan and stick to it. Like dld said in a thread this isnt complicated so dont make it so, which is what you try and do if I'm honest about it.

Why dont you just stick to basic stretches and wet jelqs, you will see gains with those and they are simples or do something you can actually stick with and not keep messing about on.

Plenty of routines in our routine section from members than dld has one in the newbie section and I have three in that section aswell, so you have plenty to go at.
 
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