Woah.

I think everyone should see this... a sure deterrent and a clear message as to how badly it can go wrong before amputation is necessary...
 
Even after that thread by BTC, the main moderator of Mynewsize, displaying the horror he went through, guys are inquiring about P.E. surgery and even discussing new doctors, etc. I can't help but call those guys idiots because surgery success should never be taken for granted. Especially when there is nothing wrong.

To put yourself at such a high risk, from the chance of poor cosmetic results to (clearly) the horror of infections for an inch or two (if even that!), not to mention the thousands in spending costs, is just absolutely ridiculous. What seems to be lost in all this is the importance of common sense.
 
i agree its the most ludarcis thing that i have ever heard. I think surgery is just for the lazy. I mean how pathetic is it, when you have thousands of people who have clearly gained from normal Penis Enlargement and then the small few that opt for surgery because they either get frustrated with Penis Enlargement, or do not beleive. Put in 2 years hard work and you will get all the result you would from surgery.

Just blows my mind people would still do surgery.
 
Cheese and bisciuts that's horrible!
Why would you do that? I've been serious about Penis Enlargement for only about a month and I've gained a quarter inch in length and and eigth in width, so it's not like that much of a challenge to make it work. You just have to be dedicated to it. Surgery is just stupid and dangerous, especailly on something that is proven to not be effective.
 
lili9zero;322534 said:
This is a post from BTC from Mynewsize who really suffered big time from a failed P.E. surgery.

It boggles my mind that anyone would really consider Penis Enlargement surgery when surgery isn't a necessity. The possible damage is so scary.

Open at your own risk....

http://www.mynewsize.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5920

I'm one of those idiots that posted after seeing those pics. Next time your in Hawaii, I challenge u to say it to my face.

There are always 2 sides to a story. Are u surethis was the Dr's fault or was post care neglected? I don't know, neither do u.

I have seen many great results, and heard of horror stories. It is definately not for everyone, and even though I enquire about it, it doesnt mean I will have it.

I am definately not lazy when it comes to Pe. I've made over 1.5" in erect length and at least.5" gain in girth with little effort, I had been concentrating on length.

Anyways don't be so judgemental of the people who are exploring this option.
 
tripod808;323463 said:
I'm one of those idiots that posted after seeing those pics. Next time your in Hawaii, I challenge u to say it to my face.

Easy there buddy. Where did he say anything about idiots??? He said it boggled his mind. Hell cell phones boggle my mind. How do I hold a little plastic box and talk to my family across the country on another plastic box??? It boggles my mind.

Oh wait maybe people that talk on cell phones are idiots. Stupid me, I never made the connection.
 
lili9zero;322784 said:
Even after that thread by BTC, the main moderator of Mynewsize, displaying the horror he went through, guys are inquiring about P.E. surgery and even discussing new doctors, etc. I can't help but call those guys idiots because surgery success should never be taken for granted. Especially when there is nothing wrong.

To put yourself at such a high risk, from the chance of poor cosmetic results to (clearly) the horror of infections for an inch or two (if even that!), not to mention the thousands in spending costs, is just absolutely ridiculous. What seems to be lost in all this is the importance of common sense.
 
that is terrible...there is a risk with any surgery starting with anesthia to the actual surgery to post op...i wouldn't risk my manhood for a couple of inches...but if someone wants to put themselves through that risk...it's on them...i'm sure there are plenty of successful stories..but the horror stories are enough for me not to even consider it...but that is just my opinion.
 
SMH! That should be posted around the web to stop guys from hanging and doing outrageous things like this to make their dicks' bigger just use your hands dude.

Horrific he'll probably never have sex again.
 
Tripod,
I may be judgmental about this, but I think I have a lot of agreement by members when I say that it is absolutely idiotic for someone to have P.E. surgery after seeing pictures and horror stories such as what I described. There are numerous of other posts that described their disappointing results, from a lumpy penis to actually losing significant length after the surgery. What BTC is going through is very extreme.

BTC (the poor guy in the link) is the main moderator of mynewsize and creator of the MV2 system. From what I gathered, he is a registered nurse and works in a hospital so I doubt it was poor post-op care.

My point is that it would be crazy if YOU, who claim to have gained 1.5" length and .5" girth from manual and natural Penis Enlargement, to have surgery after all the risks that comes with it. You may not go through with it, but some will. I personally think it's odd that you would ask about financing for surgery when you've made significant natural gains.

I can understand if you're really considering surgery if you've been Penis Enlargementing for years and haven't seen any gains, but you have so that's the issue.

Surgery is a scary thing and shouldn't be considered unless it is necessary.
 
P.E. Surgery is not worth the risk. Seriously, if you have the power to do stretches for a few years to set yourself for life how could you consider P.E Surgery after looking at those pictures? It's just so desperate and risky.
 
lili9zero;323666 said:
Tripod,
I may be judgmental about this, but I think I have a lot of agreement by members when I say that it is absolutely idiotic for someone to have P.E. surgery after seeing pictures and horror stories such as what I described. There are numerous of other posts that described their disappointing results, from a lumpy penis to actually losing significant length after the surgery. What BTC is going through is very extreme.

BTC (the poor guy in the link) is the main moderator of mynewsize and creator of the MV2 system. From what I gathered, he is a registered nurse and works in a hospital so I doubt it was poor post-op care.

My point is that it would be crazy if YOU, who claim to have gained 1.5" length and .5" girth from manual and natural Penis Enlargement, to have surgery after all the risks that comes with it. You may not go through with it, but some will. I personally think it's odd that you would ask about financing for surgery when you've made significant natural gains.

I can understand if you're really considering surgery if you've been Penis Enlargementing for years and haven't seen any gains, but you have so that's the issue.

Surgery is a scary thing and shouldn't be considered unless it is necessary.

lili9zero,
First of all, thanks for responding to my post maturely. I also regret writing the threats i said. I think internet forum tough talk is stupid, and yet i was guilty of it. I was just mad at the time that i read your post and i'm a little hot blooded sometimes. Sorry, moving on now...

I happened to have done alot of research on the surgeries available, and the last thing i would want is for that to happen to me.

The lumpy results you speak of are from free fat transfer, or FFT. They basicly inject your own fat in your dick. I would never consider this and dont think anyone else should. The loss of length is usually associated with a a dermal graft or alloderm that wasn't put in properly, and sometimes a suspensory ligament that wasn't severed enough, so it builds up scar tissue.

I agree that BTC is going through something extreme, and yes his job, credentials, company would lead anyone with common sense to beleive that he followed post op care correctly and that he is credible.

A detail that should be mentioned is that BTC was on his 2nd dermal surgery, meaning, he put a second dermal over his first succesful one. I think this was a factor in his condition.

During BTC's first dermal surgery, i beleive he had sex with his gf 4 weeks out. His Dr. that did his work recommends you wait 6 weeks before any type of exercise, he even prescribes meds to control erections before the 6 week point. My point is, he didn't follow post op care the first time, i wouldn't doubt if he did it again the second time.

Do you own an MV2? I do, it's a great product. I love it, but it does cause me to have fluid buildup. I'm no doctor, but my uncle is. He has done numerous skin grafts to burn victims. I am very open with him and asked him what effects fluid buildup would have on a skin graft. Long answer short, fluid buildup is not good for a new graft of any sort.

I also know more details about the story that you don't know, which i am not at liberty to say. I'll leave it at that.

The claims of the gains i have made are not only true, but on the conservative side. I have gained length relatively easy, but may be close to maxing out. I stopped doing girth consistently because i wanted to focus on length first. I will post pics to back up my gains, but have no before pics.

Yes, i might be a little crazy to consider the surgery, but i have ambitious goals and probably size dysmorphia with my penis, which i think is common on Penis Enlargement forums. I don't deny that, just don't judge me. I want a FUCKIN HUGE COCK. Have u read all the stories on this internet about the guys who have heard their gf had a gigantic cock?, well i wanna be that guy. I hope to be 9" nbp x with at least 6.5" girth. That's my peroggative. Only time will tell what route i take....

Tripod
 
Tripod,

It takes a real man to say what you did and I appreciate that. We are all here to be "that guy" the one with the huge schlong that completely surprises the girls we are with. I just hope more people are honest about with themselves and use common sense.

To answer your question, yes I have used the MV2. The idea is good, but I developed a water blister and that was enough for me. Maybe it was my own carelessness in not monitoring it while I stretched. Regardless, that was enough for me. In case you are wondering how to care for blisters, try Bio-oil from the local CVS or so. Those work great in bringing coloration back and color blending.

What I use now is, in my opinion, the best method EVER, yet it is the simpliest! The irony, the irony. It is the swim cap technique. The link that follows breaks it down step by step:

http://penis-enlargement-manual.thundersplace.org/tom-hubbard/classic/swimcappenis.html

Really, once you get the idea, it works amazing and no poor circulation, no blisters, no fluid buildup, no broken vessels, nothing! You can search for my posts in the Hanging section for some explanations/clarifications. The only thing that sucks a bit is you will get sensitivity on your glans after about 20 minutes, but it goes away seconds after you remove the swim cap and jelq a few times. I comfortably hang 15lbs (tied via shoelace to the end of the double-layered swim cap). You will feel the difference once you get it to work for you.

Best of luck for anyone willing to try it.

-monet

Actually, I'll just cut/paste my other posts from the swim cap thread:

The swim cap technique is completely underrated! I am finding it to be the best method for hanging or simply stretching underneath the clothes. It's the simplest, cheapest, and most convenient in terms of how you can stretch at any time--no embarrassing tubes, or equipment. Just a swim cap and a rope, for example, to tie to your thigh. Circumcised or uncircumcised it works for both.

I have been doing Penis Enlargement for years and wish I discovered or gave this method more thought earlier.

I am still testing this out before I fully vouch for it, but from the weeks of stretching it is absolutely phenomenal! The only downside to this method is your glans and skin gets very sensitive after about 20 minutes, but it only takes a few minutes for this sensitivity to go away once you remove the swim cap between sessions. No blisters, no broken vessels, no blood spots, no poor circulation, no pulling of excess skin. The pull is felt on the whole shaft and ligaments because the swim cap grips your glans and a bit of surface area beyond it.


To be continued...(you may write to me directly if you are interested).

As you play around with it, you will find methods that work for you. I use a yellow hi-lighter to roll the swim cap into a condom-like tube then roll it on over my glans (if you are tightly circumcised, there is more area for the latex swim cap to grip). The latex material adheres to the skin very well and the pull is excellent. You can test it out on your thumb first to test it out too. I like to use a little scotch tape to hold the swim cap together so it doesn't unroll itself.

This swim cap may not be ideal for heavy weights but the idea is a consistent stretch (length over time--be patient! Over exerting yourself with heavy weights can be damaging). The way I see it: if tribal women in Thailand can stretch their necks to abnormal length with rings over years then natural penile enlargement shouldn't even be a question.

I doubled up on the swim cap (one over the other) and was able to hang 10lbs easily but not for too long as the grip was not able to sustain the the heavy weight. I'm sure I can figure this out--maybe use a Theraband sports wrap before applying the swim cap.

Again, this is a fantastic method because you can basically stretch anytime, anywhere (a 2 minute trip to the bathroom to remove it, but I don't recommend stretching anywhere outside of the convenience of the home). Again, the glans gets sensitive after a 20-30min session, but this goes away within minutes. You can return to stretching moments later once you feel the sensitivity subsiding. With lots of free time, you can log hours and hours per day.


As with every technique, use common sense and start slow. I find using a simple sneaker shoelace and tying it to my knee (alternating each side to evenly distribute the tension) gives a comfortable and concealed stretch--the bonus here also is you can add more tension by simply stretching your knees (opening your legs to the side to increase the tension) while you sit down doing whatever you like.

You will find that it hurts a bit as you roll the condom-like tube (the smaller the tighter the grip--I use a yellow hi-lighter, for example) over the glans. Once you roll the tube over your glans, however, it will be comfortable. After about 30-60 minutes of stretching, you will feel heightened sensitivity and it will be wise to remove the swim cap. This part will be the real pain because of the heightened sensitivity. The latex material will adhere to the glans and skin so you will have to SLOWLY unwrap the swim cap and even more slowly peel the swim cap off of your glans. This sensitivity only lasts a few minutes--easily cured by massaging the area. The beauty of this technique is you don't have to worry about any blisters (grrrr!), poor circulation, blood spots, or whatever.

If you are uncircumcised, I would recommend using a Theraband sports wrap and do a light wrap where your foreskin is pull back.

As a side note, foreskin is very annoying. I know because I was uncircumcised for 26 years and just recently got circumcised. The sex is much better and cosmetically it is much better looking. I can understand why some may want foreskin restoration, but speaking from someone who knows both sides of the coin--a circumcised penis is much better. I would highly recommend it for those considering it, regardless of age.

It is not recommended to stretch continuously for over an hour per session because you will want to remove the swim cap to massage it and get blood flowing to your glans. You will feel the need to remove it anyway since it'll get very sensitive.

It only takes a few minutes max to put the swim cap on and a few minutes to take it off SLOWLY, and you should massage your penis and the sensitive areas. Your glans won't be as sensitive after a few minutes, say 15 minutes and you're ready to stretch again. It's at your discretion and you will know when you are ready to stretch again. Like I said before you can log in hours and hours each day doing this while sitting down (tied to the knee) and won't need to lock yourself in a room because hanging weights kinda requires a bit of privacy. LoL

~Monet
 
lili9zero;324281 said:
Tripod,

It takes a real man to say what you did and I appreciate that. We are all here to be "that guy" the one with the huge schlong that completely surprises the girls we are with. I just hope more people are honest about with themselves and use common sense.

To answer your question, yes I have used the MV2. The idea is good, but I developed a water blister and that was enough for me. Maybe it was my own carelessness in not monitoring it while I stretched. Regardless, that was enough for me. In case you are wondering how to care for blisters, try Bio-oil from the local CVS or so. Those work great in bringing coloration back and color blending.

What I use now is, in my opinion, the best method EVER, yet it is the simpliest! The irony, the irony. It is the swim cap technique. The link that follows breaks it down step by step:

http://penis-enlargement-manual.thundersplace.org/tom-hubbard/classic/swimcappenis.html

Really, once you get the idea, it works amazing and no poor circulation, no blisters, no fluid buildup, no broken vessels, nothing! You can search for my posts in the Hanging section for some explanations/clarifications. The only thing that sucks a bit is you will get sensitivity on your glans after about 20 minutes, but it goes away seconds after you remove the swim cap and jelq a few times. I comfortably hang 15lbs (tied via shoelace to the end of the double-layered swim cap). You will feel the difference once you get it to work for you.

Best of luck for anyone willing to try it.

-monet

Actually, I'll just cut/paste my other posts from the swim cap thread:

The swim cap technique is completely underrated! I am finding it to be the best method for hanging or simply stretching underneath the clothes. It's the simplest, cheapest, and most convenient in terms of how you can stretch at any time--no embarrassing tubes, or equipment. Just a swim cap and a rope, for example, to tie to your thigh. Circumcised or uncircumcised it works for both.

I have been doing Penis Enlargement for years and wish I discovered or gave this method more thought earlier.

I am still testing this out before I fully vouch for it, but from the weeks of stretching it is absolutely phenomenal! The only downside to this method is your glans and skin gets very sensitive after about 20 minutes, but it only takes a few minutes for this sensitivity to go away once you remove the swim cap between sessions. No blisters, no broken vessels, no blood spots, no poor circulation, no pulling of excess skin. The pull is felt on the whole shaft and ligaments because the swim cap grips your glans and a bit of surface area beyond it.


To be continued...(you may write to me directly if you are interested).

As you play around with it, you will find methods that work for you. I use a yellow hi-lighter to roll the swim cap into a condom-like tube then roll it on over my glans (if you are tightly circumcised, there is more area for the latex swim cap to grip). The latex material adheres to the skin very well and the pull is excellent. You can test it out on your thumb first to test it out too. I like to use a little scotch tape to hold the swim cap together so it doesn't unroll itself.

This swim cap may not be ideal for heavy weights but the idea is a consistent stretch (length over time--be patient! Over exerting yourself with heavy weights can be damaging). The way I see it: if tribal women in Thailand can stretch their necks to abnormal length with rings over years then natural penile enlargement shouldn't even be a question.

I doubled up on the swim cap (one over the other) and was able to hang 10lbs easily but not for too long as the grip was not able to sustain the the heavy weight. I'm sure I can figure this out--maybe use a Theraband sports wrap before applying the swim cap.

Again, this is a fantastic method because you can basically stretch anytime, anywhere (a 2 minute trip to the bathroom to remove it, but I don't recommend stretching anywhere outside of the convenience of the home). Again, the glans gets sensitive after a 20-30min session, but this goes away within minutes. You can return to stretching moments later once you feel the sensitivity subsiding. With lots of free time, you can log hours and hours per day.


As with every technique, use common sense and start slow. I find using a simple sneaker shoelace and tying it to my knee (alternating each side to evenly distribute the tension) gives a comfortable and concealed stretch--the bonus here also is you can add more tension by simply stretching your knees (opening your legs to the side to increase the tension) while you sit down doing whatever you like.

You will find that it hurts a bit as you roll the condom-like tube (the smaller the tighter the grip--I use a yellow hi-lighter, for example) over the glans. Once you roll the tube over your glans, however, it will be comfortable. After about 30-60 minutes of stretching, you will feel heightened sensitivity and it will be wise to remove the swim cap. This part will be the real pain because of the heightened sensitivity. The latex material will adhere to the glans and skin so you will have to SLOWLY unwrap the swim cap and even more slowly peel the swim cap off of your glans. This sensitivity only lasts a few minutes--easily cured by massaging the area. The beauty of this technique is you don't have to worry about any blisters (grrrr!), poor circulation, blood spots, or whatever.

If you are uncircumcised, I would recommend using a Theraband sports wrap and do a light wrap where your foreskin is pull back.

As a side note, foreskin is very annoying. I know because I was uncircumcised for 26 years and just recently got circumcised. The sex is much better and cosmetically it is much better looking. I can understand why some may want foreskin restoration, but speaking from someone who knows both sides of the coin--a circumcised penis is much better. I would highly recommend it for those considering it, regardless of age.

It is not recommended to stretch continuously for over an hour per session because you will want to remove the swim cap to massage it and get blood flowing to your glans. You will feel the need to remove it anyway since it'll get very sensitive.

It only takes a few minutes max to put the swim cap on and a few minutes to take it off SLOWLY, and you should massage your penis and the sensitive areas. Your glans won't be as sensitive after a few minutes, say 15 minutes and you're ready to stretch again. It's at your discretion and you will know when you are ready to stretch again. Like I said before you can log in hours and hours each day doing this while sitting down (tied to the knee) and won't need to lock yourself in a room because hanging weights kinda requires a bit of privacy. LoL

~Monet

I have two questions for you:

1. Is hanging the best and most expeditious way to gain BPenis EnlargementL?

2. You say you've been hanging for years? What have your gains (BPenis EnlargementL primarily) been?

THANKS
 
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