r kegel's bad...please read...

[DMXVSDMC]

http://www.herballove.com/article.asp?Art=432

please read this artical i came across......sorry if its a repost..

 

[TimBo755]

Are kegels bad, over excess of kegels are bad...just like over excess of anything can be bad...It's just a matter of moderation, same with everything else.. Kegels work for me, I do them in moderation though, not overworking the muscle but giving it just enough to make it stronger and have good effects on my pe quest. So kegels can be bad but if you do them in moderation, no.

 

[Super]

They are bad man thats why I dont do them

 

[BeBobBox]

Kegels are good but dont do too much

 

[Godsize]

Riiiight. Kegels are bad, but this garbage they are SELLING will help your problem. Sure it will....

 

[9cyclops9]

Ok I'll admit it! I thought it too!

Now, off to do some kegels.

 

[Super]

No guys they are right, I used to have the worst pre-ejac, from kegels, thats were it all started, dont do them.

 

[Tezta]

serious? so now what will become of the Penis Enlargement exercises that require you to kegel during the workout?

 

[oopapercutoo]

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to blow the bullshit whistle on this...Kegels themselves are not bad. I really don't even see how it could be possible to do too many kegels, but if it is indeed possible then that could be bad for you. However kegels help to reaffirm blood flow to our favorite extremity, how is that bad? Kegels keep your pecker supplied with fresh, oxygenated blood to help hasten the recovery rate from the stress we apply to it when we perform our exercises, how is that bad? Kegels are designed to help stave off premature ejaculation, how is that bad? Kegels are the key that allow men to have multiple orgasms, how is that bad?

In closing, kegels are not bad...I refuse to believe it.

 

[dopefish]

And to follow on from papercut here, i have been doing them for ages and haven't experienced any problems... yet...

 

[Super]

You guys are lucky

 

[Zurik]

Completely agree with Supra.I mean if anyone is having problems with bloodflow to their member, then sure, otherwise Kegels=pre-ejac. Reverse Kegels=pornstardom.

 

[oopapercutoo]

Zurik, I agree that constantly kegelling during sex will cause you to ejaculate more quickly, and that reverse kegels should be exercised while having sex...but without a consistent kegel strengthening routine you're not going to be able to last as long as you would if you had been doing kegels.

I'll try to equate this to bench pressing...if you have a strong pectorals (the primary muscle group worked with bench press) then you're going to fair pretty well doing bench press. However if you have the same pectorals with the addition of strong triceps (secondary muscle group worked during bench press) then you're going to be able to bench press more weight... If reverse kegelling is your pectorals, and kegels are your triceps, don't you think it would make sense to exercise both to receive the most benefit?

 

[Super]

Completely agree with Supra.I mean if anyone is having problems with bloodflow to their member, then sure, otherwise Kegels=pre-ejac. Reverse Kegels=pornstardom.

Word man

 

[VladtheImpaler]

I have been wondering this also....I sure dont think kegeling while erect is bad for you obviously....but when I am completely flaccid and I try to kegel it is harder to do and feels very strange (probably because it has no blood to push)...and sometimes I feel little ticks, like a little shock, in my pc when I try to kegel flaccid...(anyone else have that)??? ?

I have not been training it for that reason only

I thought kegels were supposed to make you have rockhard erections...just as the article said, "some men use their PC constantly during sex to pump up their penis because it isnt hard enough" THAT IS DEFINITELY ME...I am 18....what the hell am I gonna do in a few years....

as for reverse kegels....can you strengthen that up....because every time I try to edge and do a reverse kegel to stop ejaculation it makes me cum....and not a good one...I think I get a bit of urine in there too....it makes sense though...cuz thats what you flex to make yourself piss....

Please tell me Im not the only one to have that happen :biggun:

 

[DLD]

Kegels and Reverse Kegels are paramount to making Penis Enlargement gains in a number of areas. Kegels in of themselves strengthen the muscles we use to hold blood in our penis when we have an erection. If the pelvic floor muscle are weak full erection potential may suffer. I also advocate kegels to strengthen the p.c. muscles for future size. As your penis becomes larger the p.c. muscles will need to follow suit in order to maintain good erections and good erection angle. Strong p.c. muscles are also something that will benefit us in the future when our bladder begins to fail with old age a strong p.c. muscle will prevent accidents.

Reverse kegels for some men are the only way for them to make length gains. The PC muscle in many guys acts as a protective buffer between the penis and the ligaments. When we stretch the penis a normal reaction for the p.c. muscle is to flex to protect the penis from injury. When this happens during a stretch the ligs are getting very little of the stretch tension as the p.c. muscles are absorbing and protecting them from injury. Many guys do not even realize this is happening and some go on for months or even years without making length gains. The reverse kegel allows us to totally unflex the p.c. muscle and so that the ligs can absorb most of the stretch hence length gains become possible.

Overworking any muscle group is not good practice, everything does, however, have its place in moderation.

 

[Zurik]

"constantly kegelling during sex will cause you to ejaculate more quickly".

Maybe that's just me,but after i started doing kegels i noticed that when having sex, i start unintentionaly kegeling. And you know what that leads to. Obviously holding a reverse kegel, prolongs the sessions quite a bit(many times acctually), however, if i do just one kegel during that session, it's VERY hard to go back to the reverse kegel. So what's the point of training something that contradicts the purpose of what most of us do Penis Enlargement for-a better sex life. Being a minute-man doesn't help with having great sex.

 

[Super]

Kegels and Reverse Kegels are paramount to making Penis Enlargement gains in a number of areas. Kegels in of themselves strengthen the muscles we use to hold blood in our penis when we have an erection. If the pelvic floor muscle are weak full erection potential may suffer. I also advocate kegels to strengthen the p.c. muscles for future size. As your penis becomes larger the p.c. muscles will need to follow suit in order to maintain good erections and good erection angle. Strong p.c. muscles are also something that will benefit us in the future when our bladder begins to fail with old age a strong p.c. muscle will prevent accidents.

Reverse kegels for some men are the only way for them to make length gains. The PC muscle in many guys acts as a protective buffer between the penis and the ligaments. When we stretch the penis a normal reaction for the p.c. muscle is to flex to protect the penis from injury. When this happens during a stretch the ligs are getting very little of the stretch tension as the p.c. muscles are absorbing and protecting them from injury. Many guys do not even realize this is happening and some go on for months or even years without making length gains. The reverse kegel allows us to totally unflex the p.c. muscle and so that the ligs can absorb most of the stretch hence length gains become possible.

Overworking any muscle group is not good practice, everything does, however, have its place in moderation.

I agree with ou on reverse kegels, but the regular ones, no way

 

[ICM]

I'm with DLD on the kegel issue. Obvioiusly they're not for everyone but if you're making your unit bigger you need to improve the blood flow and reduce the outflow.

Kegels are great, as they can enlarge your PC/BC which constricts outflow and gives you rock hard erections.

Reverse kegels are very useful for stretching IMO.

I do kegels (long clamps, not too many) and I can last hours with very good control. I don't put that down to kegels though, I put it down to determination.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Nothing wrong with kegels if done in MODERATION.
What tends to happen is daft cunts do 1000's and 1000's of them eachday and THINK they will get stronger erections and cannon like cum shots, but it doesnt happen.
The Kegels target the P'C' muscle, and we all SHOULD know that a muscle gets TIRED and WORN-OUT, this is what happens when silly men do LOTS of kegels, they just tire the thing out.
What can happen is, if the person keeps wearing at it than the muscle will SHRINK like any muscle if it keeps getting abused like that, this is where all this negativity has arisen.
If you do them normally, say 100-400 eachday or 1 on 1 off basis, than they should work well like they have done for 1000's and 1000's of years in Asia.
But if you do TONS and TONS of them, than YES they are bad.
Common sense is needed.

 

[bluenun]

Kegels and Reverse Kegels are paramount to making Penis Enlargement gains in a number of areas. Kegels in of themselves strengthen the muscles we use to hold blood in our penis when we have an erection. If the pelvic floor muscle are weak full erection potential may suffer. I also advocate kegels to strengthen the p.c. muscles for future size. As your penis becomes larger the p.c. muscles will need to follow suit in order to maintain good erections and good erection angle. Strong p.c. muscles are also something that will benefit us in the future when our bladder begins to fail with old age a strong p.c. muscle will prevent accidents.

Reverse kegels for some men are the only way for them to make length gains. The PC muscle in many guys acts as a protective buffer between the penis and the ligaments. When we stretch the penis a normal reaction for the p.c. muscle is to flex to protect the penis from injury. When this happens during a stretch the ligs are getting very little of the stretch tension as the p.c. muscles are absorbing and protecting them from injury. Many guys do not even realize this is happening and some go on for months or even years without making length gains. The reverse kegel allows us to totally unflex the p.c. muscle and so that the ligs can absorb most of the stretch hence length gains become possible.

Overworking any muscle group is not good practice, everything does, however, have its place in moderation.

DLD would it be beneficial to try and hold a reverse kegel for an entire hanging set many times a day? Or is that over doing it?

 

[Jason1]

I find myself doing kegels when I'm spankin but I have to agree with Supra and Zurik. I remember that I made really good gains but had weak erections cause I was gaining so much. That was when I started doing kegels. It worked to get my erections harder. I started doing more and more and my boners then started getting weaker. I did not know what it was. Then I started to realize the less kegels I did the harder I got. I don't do any now except when I am spankin and that is just cause it feels good.

 

[Super]

Kegels suck and I really dont think anyone actually does them and is faithfull, lucky there is the ROP!

 

[Blade]

That site is owned by Dr Lin, if I'm not mistaken - who is a complete fraud, and not even a doctor. He holds a PhD in bridge engineering.

 

[longTom]

Kegels suck and I really dont think anyone actually does them and is faithfull, lucky there is the ROP!

Just how long did you do kegles for anyway? ? :O
Because I think there is a period when you are starting out that there is a negitive effect, but after you get past that point then they are a great help.

 

[REDZULU2003]

All these peeps posting about negative feedback about kegels, I ask one question.
Be HONEST, how many do you do? frequency? intensity? this will be where your going wrong, I myself have done fine with them and also DLD has explained why/how they are so important.
No device can do to the PC muscles, what kegels can ... unless you got one of those electro pads and shoved it in ya ass lol

 

[Zurik]

500 Kegels and 5, 20 second holds, for the last 1.5 years, daily.

 

[longTom]

All these peeps posting about negative feedback about kegels, I ask one question.
Be HONEST, how many do you do? frequency? intensity? this will be where your going wrong, I myself have done fine with them and also DLD has explained why/how they are so important.
No device can do to the PC muscles, what kegels can ... unless you got one of those electro pads and shoved it in ya ass lol

Hum... thanks for saying what I said in a differnt way.
PS. 500 to 1000 3 sec squeese and relase, plus ladders 3 to 6 times a week. and a pc tremble once a week.

 

[REDZULU2003]

For the ones who keep getting bad results ffrom these such as Zurik, cut the amount you do by HALF, and proceed to a 1 on 1 off basis ... see if that helps any.
I wonna now see if this helps.

 

[Zurik]

Man, thanks for the advice but it's really hard to keep motivated when doing something that does not seem to yield positive results. Kegels are just one of those exercises that you can't see the affect happening(except ejaculating quickly when you want to(or not)).Stretch exercises yield an increase in length,jelqing increase in girth and etc., kegels don't show anything. The supposed increase in hardness of the erections;well I never suffered from the lack of those in the first place. Besides the feeling of increased hardness might also be purly psychological. You know it's like someone gives you a tablet and says that's LSD, you'll acctually start hallucinating. I might reconsider my words when i'm 70ish and have problems with blood circulation but till then I'd rather not take any chances.

 

[creolecock]

i'm confused... if reverse kegels are using the muscles to force cum/piss out of your dick, and kegels are to stop liquid getting out... how are kegels bad and reverse kegels good.

2 or 3 years ago, when i used to do kegels ALL THE IME, i had ridiculously strong erections and 100% ejaculation control. i've recently had some premature ejaculation problems, so i was gonna go back to my constant kegeling to deal with it. this is the 1st i've heard about kegeling unnecessary or bad. i've read many article in magazines and online and even a book called the multi orgasmic man, that recommended kegels as an important part of penile and sexual health.

by the way, that website is selling herbal remedies to make you last longer, of course they're gonna say that kegels dont help!!

 

[dyablo]

Im kind of confused, doesnt the DLD newbie routien recomend a kegel daily routine? So how are kegels bad if most men get the major gains from that routine?
Thanx

 

[PR69]

One thing you should try to avoid is doing extreme kegels to get blood in while clamping. I did this for the longest time and it really weakend my erections. Lucky for me ive been slowly getting it back. AVOID CONSTRICTED KEGELS!

 

[TheNextBIGThing]

I have had mixed results with kegals on the good side sometimes I would get the hardest erections ever in my life (even harder than when I was a teenager) it was so damn stiff at times I could barely move it. As other have said over it on the kegals and prepare for possibly crap erection quality for the rest of the day, this is what I experienced a few times as well. Kegals did at times give me even more intense orgasms and I shot like a pornstar cumshot was higher and more forceful.

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Guess I'm one o' the lucky ones. I do a combination of Kegels and the ol' wet towel on the cock curls, no real set amount, no real consistent frequency and my ejac control is pretty damn good. As long as I saty in practice I can come when I want to, if I want to and only then.
And the curls give me the ability to make my cock just about get up and dance.

They both come in handy when I'm feelin' kinda lazy, or my back's actin' up on me; I can make the Ol' Lady come just by doin' the good old "pump 'n' throb" !

 

[ithiel]

people underrate kegeling......

 

[goinfor11x7]

Kegels are DYLNOOOOOMITE!!! That doctor is full of shit!!! Many doctors recommend them for women after childbirth. My daughter does them.

The principle is the same. You're trying strengthen that muscle. You won't regret it and when you get older, you won't have to wear a diaperl!!!

 

[huge-girth]

Are kegels bad, over excess of kegels are bad...just like over excess of anything can be bad...It's just a matter of moderation, same with everything else.. Kegels work for me, I do them in moderation though, not overworking the muscle but giving it just enough to make it stronger and have good effects on my pe quest. So kegels can be bad but if you do them in moderation, no.

There should be a balance of Kegel and reverse kegel. Do both kegel and reverse kegel daily. If you are doing 50 kegels daily, do 10 reverse kegel too.

 

[Tyrel77]

I’ve just started to do kegels when I’m driving somewhere or in bed in the morning or eating lunch, and do reverse kegels when I’m doing my stretches.
Just normal kegels hasn’t been a part of my daily routine really, but I seem to keep building my routine. I have had some previous problems with eq but I’m interested to see what difference this will make in a few weeks or months

 

[oldandlively]

I’ve just started to do kegels when I’m driving somewhere or in bed in the morning or eating lunch, and do reverse kegels when I’m doing my stretches.
Just normal kegels hasn’t been a part of my daily routine really, but I seem to keep building my routine. I have had some previous problems with eq but I’m interested to see what difference this will make in a few weeks or months

Try to follow the baseline kegel first. Anywhere between 100 to 200 kegel-reverse kegels of 1 second hold, and around 50 to 75 sets for the 5 seconds hold. Don't go more than that. You are attempting to fix an EQ issue, not pelvic floor lockup for a healthy man.

 

[Tyrel77]

Try to follow the baseline kegel first. Anywhere between 100 to 200 kegel-reverse kegels of 1 second hold, and around 50 to 75 sets for the 5 seconds hold. Don't go more than that. You are attempting to fix an EQ issue, not pelvic floor lockup for a healthy man.

Thanks for the advice Oldandlively! I will try that!

Thought I’d share a thread from here I found while doing some searching it’s named:

Kegels, Reverse Kegels, pelvic floor, anatomy of the penis muscles and some clarification​

By the member named F26

Appears to be a ton of great info there

 

[DLD]

Thanks for the advice Oldandlively! I will try that!

Thought I’d share a thread from here I found while doing some searching it’s named:

Kegels, Reverse Kegels, pelvic floor, anatomy of the penis muscles and some clarification​

By the member named F26

Appears to be a ton of great info there

Do you have a link?

 

[Tyrel77]

Only reason I didn’t post the link is cause earlier in that thread it was mentioned about people stealing information from our forum so I just left the keywords that anybody would be able to search and find it.
Since I’ve looked back at it, that was actually about six years ago, so maybe things have changed,

anyway
here’s the link

F

Thread 'Kegels, Reverse Kegels, pelvic floor, anatomy of the penis muscles and some clarification'

Oct 5, 2019

Kegels, Reverse Kegels, anatomy of the penis muscles, pelvic floor and some clarification,
it's not only about one muscle:

Shortened names:
PC (Pubococcygeus) muscle, BC (Bulbocavernosus) muscle and IC (Ischiocavernosus) muscle
Bulbocavernosus (BC) was named "bulbospongiosus (BS)" before.
EQ (erection quality) and ED (erectile dysfunction)

Abstract:
1) Introduction
2) Functions & Usage of the different muscles
3) Locating and identifying the muscles
4) Kegels & Reverse Kegels...

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• Replies: 17
• Forum: Penis Enlargement Forum

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