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^ Be carefull with clamping as its intensity could hurt your EQ as well
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I think this sounds pretty safe in my opinion. Five minutes of clamping is not enough time to cause discoloration or thrombosis. I look forward to future information on how well this is working for you. Thank for answering me.
If your like me and wake once in a while, yes. If not it's your choice. I wouldn't unless it's a loose ring due to constant erections at night and the lack of blood flow in and out. It all depends on how you and your body get accustomed to it. Do it during the day, if it's uncomfortable during the day, it more than likely will be at night until you can acclimate your penis to this new routine. The real answer is only you can figure it out through trying.
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It depends on how much you are restricted. I would not go too tight, just tight enough to keep the pump. Also, remember, during sleep you will have erections so it may fall off as you go back into flaccid state. Maybe just not worth the time.
I have them but don't use them since I won't do girth until I get my length gain. I'm 5.25" in girth now. I lost .25" when I stopped. I'm gonna start getting in jelqs again to help overall though.
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Seem to be getting more and more expansion every session now the past few days. Forgot the bundled stretches today and still got good expansion.
That's good. Get them bundles in man. Better to do it and believe they help than to not do them and believed they would've helped. That's my thinking. Since I'm only working on length, I include them as many times as I can throughout the day and right before I hang. It's proven the tunica is the hardest to grow, so keep trying man.
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Still going strong with the routine. My post girth is 5" or a bit over every time now. Before I was getting 4.85 at best. When I measure before I'm also at 4.9" girth. It's really satisfying to see the numbers go up
Good work man. Keep pulling.
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Just keep working bro, those gains are gonna keep coming too.
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Started to notice several days in a row of the clamping + [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s worked for a while and then plateau's and my penis starts to feel stiff. Spent the weekend with just bundled stretches + regular jelqs and my penis started to feel thicker again. I think I'm going to start alternating the 5x5x3 and jelqs each day. Just like weight training, high intensity every day doesn't mean better results.
Vinc17;663856 said:
Remember Vinc that Bundled Stretches are what will eliminate these dealings on gains. If you penis is feeling tight, hard and as if it can no longer expand it is high time to stretch the Tunica. As the Tunica becomes stretched and enlarged the penis will naturally grow much faster.
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Vinc17;663856 said:
Jelqs are such a good exercise because they grant you better eq for one. Second they leave your cock more full flaccid, and erect. Always do jelqs brother because honestly your cock likes them, they enhance any other exercise.
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I've noticed since the clamping my penis feels a lot tougher than it did before even with bundled stretches before each session. Going to stop clamping for a while and go back to jelqs + slow squash jelqs and see if it helps.
That toughness definitely is your tunica man. Just gotta find out what makes it give in and stretch.
runningignus;664344 said:
The Tunica is largely the culprit of any guys slowness in gains. It is very smart to read through the entire first post of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to get a much better idea of how to approach this issue. It is highly recommend that 5-10 minutes of Bundled Stretches are done before both length and girth to pre-expand the Tunica to accept larger gains.
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doublelongdaddy;664365 said:
I'm doing bundled stretches before each session for 10 minutes. I will try twist more to make them more intense.
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Routine is going well still. My length seems to be increasing fast despite not doing much length work at all. I measured in just under 6.5" BPEL and I'm always 6.4". So that's 0.2" increase which I'm happy about and it's noticeably longer I think.
Unfortunately the girth is taking longer to come. I feel like I've cemented a small portion and I'm usually 0.05-0.1" over my starting girth. Hopefully the gains keep coming.
Unfortunately the girth is taking longer to come. I feel like I've cemented a small portion and I'm usually 0.05-0.1" over my starting girth. Hopefully the gains keep coming.
Vinc17;665550 said:
That is not uncommon with gaining length from girth work. A good article to read that explains this phenomenon is The Penis is a Balloon not a Rope
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Hey. Not posted on here in a while. I've been fairly consistent with PE and have spent my time experimenting with different exercises to see what works.
I unfortunately got two dark bruises on the underside of my penis from girth exercises a while ago which don't seem to be going away. I've cut out girth work now as I believe the extra pressure to be contributing to it not healing and I am now focusing on stretching which I've previously not done much of.
My current length routine is the newbie stretches followed by 5 minutes of bundled stretches. I do 10 minutes of light jelqing a few times a week and I wear a loose ish cockring throughout the day just to help keep my girth up. I was around 5" girth before stopping and am back down to 4.875" girth now - still nearly 0.2" over my starting starts.
Any advice on the bruising would be great as well as progressing from here.
I unfortunately got two dark bruises on the underside of my penis from girth exercises a while ago which don't seem to be going away. I've cut out girth work now as I believe the extra pressure to be contributing to it not healing and I am now focusing on stretching which I've previously not done much of.
My current length routine is the newbie stretches followed by 5 minutes of bundled stretches. I do 10 minutes of light jelqing a few times a week and I wear a loose ish cockring throughout the day just to help keep my girth up. I was around 5" girth before stopping and am back down to 4.875" girth now - still nearly 0.2" over my starting starts.
Any advice on the bruising would be great as well as progressing from here.
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How long have these bruises been around? Sometimes bruising can be permanent, I have a permanent bruise on the upper side of my penis. The reason these bruises become permanent is because when they happen many guys will work through them and end up causing permanent bruising. If you stopped soon enough these bruises should go away on there own. You can speed the recovery using deep tissue massage and heat (a heating pad is great as a heat source). You can also take 1 baby aspirin a day until the bruising dissipates, this will help thin the blood.
As far as your routine goes, I think it is great as temporary routine until your injury heals. The only changes I would make is to do the Bundled Stretches before the others, this will help stretch internal structures to accept greater gains and stop all erect work, including light jelqing until the bruising is gone. Please let me know how this happened, when it happened and how quickly you stopped girth work after noticing.
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doublelongdaddy;690328 said:
Probably a 4 to 6 weeks at most. I stopped a couple of weeks after noticing them. I have been doing some firegoat rolls and it was starting to fade until I jelqed at a bit too high intensity again. I'm hoping it isn't permanent.
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The bruising seems to be fading slowly but it is hard to tell. I will continue another few weeks focusing on length. At what point should I consider the bruising permanent? I have enough extra money to get the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] now so I want to get started on that when I can. No point wasting too much time if it's permanent.
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If it is fading it is not permanent. I would be very vigilant in warm ups, warm downs and if you go with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] go with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] 5x5x3 workout to avoid discoloration.
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doublelongdaddy;691063 said:
I am not sure yet whether it's fading. It's quite hard to tell. I have gained another 0.1" in length though so I can't complain.
Should I wait til it's faded(if it isn't permanent) before pumping?
Also, I found a similar product to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words], what's your opinion on this? I figured they were effectively the same but the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] is more expensive.
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Unfortunately I don't believe the bruising is fading anymore. It seems like I'm stuck with it. I'll give it another week or so of just length work. I'm also using a heat pad throughout the day. Hope i get some progress. If not I will start back into jelqing and order the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
On that note is there any pre conditioning I can do to prepare for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or will it be fine?
On that note is there any pre conditioning I can do to prepare for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or will it be fine?
Vinc17;691533 said:
You should always precondition any routine by starting with Bundled Stretches as explained in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. This will prime the penis to take on much more expansion of elongation as when we do Bundled Stretches we are stretching the very dense Tunica. I also suggest that you also follow the direction on [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] use in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread. This will teach you how to avoid many of the pitfalls men find when they do not do proper research. As far as the discoloration goes, there is a cure and you can find it here: Discoloration Treatment
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Thanks for the link to the treatment. I tried it and it's hard to tell whether there is any difference. I tried some girth work, 5x5x3 on jelqs & SSJs. Great expansion and no effect on the bruising. I suspect it is either permanent or will take a long time to fade, Fortunately it on the underside which won't really be seen all that much either way.
I have ordered the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words]. I am excited to start using it. I will be using 5x5x3 on it with SSJs, as well as doing length work in the morning if possible(morning wood tends to make this difficult).
Really looking forward to making girth gains. In terms of length, I am just around 6.5" BPEL which is .3" over my starting stats after very little length work which is great. I hope to get over 7" BPEL, but I want to make my girth goals first.
As for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I do have a question. Does the temporary expansion happen every single time? So if I were to use it everyday, I am likely to be temporarily expanded all the time?
I have ordered the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words]. I am excited to start using it. I will be using 5x5x3 on it with SSJs, as well as doing length work in the morning if possible(morning wood tends to make this difficult).
Really looking forward to making girth gains. In terms of length, I am just around 6.5" BPEL which is .3" over my starting stats after very little length work which is great. I hope to get over 7" BPEL, but I want to make my girth goals first.
As for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I do have a question. Does the temporary expansion happen every single time? So if I were to use it everyday, I am likely to be temporarily expanded all the time?
Vinc17;692018 said:
Looks like a good plan. Gaining girth with the 5x5x3 routine in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] will always bring a temporary gain and this is exactly what we want to see. As these temporary gains become cemented, or made permanent, new temporary gains will come and the process repeats. On the bruising, I can relate, but you know what? I will take a bruised big cock over a perfect average cock.
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The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] arrived today and I got my first session in.
Bit of fiddling about at first as I couldn't get it to make a seal in the shower and then I decided to take a bath instead.
I did 5x5x3 with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s
Unfortunately I got minimal expansion. Great flaccid changes, but when erect I got 0.2" temporary expansion at most. Minimal fluid retention.
I will wait til tomorrow to try again and see if I can get better expansion with it. Any advice would be great.
Bit of fiddling about at first as I couldn't get it to make a seal in the shower and then I decided to take a bath instead.
I did 5x5x3 with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s
Unfortunately I got minimal expansion. Great flaccid changes, but when erect I got 0.2" temporary expansion at most. Minimal fluid retention.
I will wait til tomorrow to try again and see if I can get better expansion with it. Any advice would be great.
Did you use a cock-ring after your girth session?
Did you repump every 30-60min to keep the expansion?
Have you tried using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]shower strap[/words] of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], this coudl give you a better seal while taking a shower?
Did you repump every 30-60min to keep the expansion?
Have you tried using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]shower strap[/words] of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], this coudl give you a better seal while taking a shower?
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Munto;692186 said:
Hey, I repumped every min or so to keep expansion during the 5 min sets. I noticed that the length I got in the tube was about the same as my length anyway, but it did look much thicker. When I pulled it off to do SSJs, my penis looked normal.
An hour later now(wore a cockring until now), the expansion has gone - some soreness in my penis also but no red dots or bruising which is great - in fact the bruising I do have looks faded slightly.
I believe this may be due to pumping to max expansion too quickly. I pressed it down once or twice and i was at max expansion straight away. I went in semi-erect. I will use half pumps to slowly get up to max expansion next time.
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Once you're dick has become accustomed to the 'stock' [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], my suggestion would be to add the VacuVin mod. What this does to your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] is the equivalent of adding nitrous and a turbo to your engine...night and day difference, (but be careful, start slowly and listen to your body).
Just my $0.02
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doublelongdaddy;692223 said:
I would like to do this, but I think it'll be a while before my penis is used to it. I get a lot of strong sensations in it already during use I can definitely feel the tissues being stretched quite intensely.
I tried the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] again today, this time for a full 15 minutes (will be doing 5x5x3 later). Again, no expansion. Not quite sure what I'm doing wrong.
Edit: Upon further use I realised I may have been using too much pressure in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I had previously been pushing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] down all the way repeatedly until it could not compress further and did not retract after. This was very intense, and I reached in the tube just over my BPEL. It was also very painful on some of the surrounding flesh. I released some pressure and still got that stretching feeling in my penis - and visibly the same amount of expansion however I did not get as far in the tube. I will stick to using this lower pressure for now. I got a bit of expansion after doing this, around 0.1-0.2" at most. I am hoping to see some progress in the coming weeks. My length has improved from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] use as well it seems, I reach over 6.5" BPEL after the pump had long gone. I will continue stretching, I seem to gain length relatively easy, 7" BPEL would be great.
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PE progression =GAINS
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PE is such an incremental exercise that you can't actually see any marked changes until you've had a chance to look-back 6 months...a year...two years. I wish I had documented from the beginning so I could have imperial evidence because there are times when my mind doesn't accept what the gauge on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] is saying...I'm just thankful that [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] put that flimsy sticker on the tube in the first place, lol. Maybe swill this around in your brain: a .01" gain every week would equate to .04 per month and .48 per year and .96 over two years...I'd say that'd be well worth the effort
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Starting to get the hang of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] now.
I am trying to cut out adult entertainment and masturbating as much as I do, so I'm avoiding [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s as I need the adult entertainment to perform them, which leads to me usually masturbating after my girth sessions.
I am doing 5x5x3 now with dry jelqing instead. I got the best expansion I've had so far using this. Although as a lot of people report, they start to get less expansion after using it many days in a row, so I decided I will take Sundays off and just focus this day on kegels and recovery, using a hot wrap several times.
I'm having trouble fitting in length work, if I don't masturbate I can't get flaccid so can't do any length work. I may look into something more passive, such as all day stretching or hanging.
After doing more research I'm going to try be more aggressive on dealing with the bruising. I found it may be hemoseridin staining which is unfortunate if true. I am first going to try some high strength arnica cream, as well as using the apple cider vinegar more often. I read about placing effervescent vitamin c in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and using low pressure pumping as well to deal with the staining, it apparently helps absorb the iron, so I will give that a try too.
I am trying to cut out adult entertainment and masturbating as much as I do, so I'm avoiding [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s as I need the adult entertainment to perform them, which leads to me usually masturbating after my girth sessions.
I am doing 5x5x3 now with dry jelqing instead. I got the best expansion I've had so far using this. Although as a lot of people report, they start to get less expansion after using it many days in a row, so I decided I will take Sundays off and just focus this day on kegels and recovery, using a hot wrap several times.
I'm having trouble fitting in length work, if I don't masturbate I can't get flaccid so can't do any length work. I may look into something more passive, such as all day stretching or hanging.
After doing more research I'm going to try be more aggressive on dealing with the bruising. I found it may be hemoseridin staining which is unfortunate if true. I am first going to try some high strength arnica cream, as well as using the apple cider vinegar more often. I read about placing effervescent vitamin c in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and using low pressure pumping as well to deal with the staining, it apparently helps absorb the iron, so I will give that a try too.
I am glad you are using the 5x5x3, this is the best possible way to bring girth. Your length issues can be dealt with also in a few different ways. You can opt for erect stretching and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] Hardcore Stretches, both are formidable length exercises. You can also train length during fatigued periods or periods of refraction (post orgasm state) where the PC muscles are too weak to hold back the stretch. You could also opt for a device like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] to supplement your length work under your clothes. Finally, you could opt for a girth only routine and tackle length later on. The choices are all yours and I hope I helped.
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Hey guys. Another week down on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I have decided to just get to length later. I haven't measured yet - I'm trying to avoid it. But I feel a bit thicker and longer most of the time. I will measure at the end of the May. Hopefully I will have gotten over 5" girth by then. My goal is 5.5".
My routine has remained the same 5x5x3 with one handed dry jelqs.
Interestingly, my bruising has reduced in diameter and may have begun to fade which is great. However, I get lots of red and purple dots every session. Am I pumping too hard?
Looking forward to gains!
My routine has remained the same 5x5x3 with one handed dry jelqs.
Interestingly, my bruising has reduced in diameter and may have begun to fade which is great. However, I get lots of red and purple dots every session. Am I pumping too hard?
Looking forward to gains!
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Hey. Another week down. Definitely noticing some differences in my hand and my gf noticing too now. I know there's not much change but I hope to break 5" girth. I've been pumping with slightly lower intensity and seem get similar expansion without as much discolouration or red spots.
As for the order of the exercises, i tend to pump first and then jelq and repeat. Would it be better to pump second instead?
I use dry jelqs because it seems to be the general consensus that they improve girth better than wet jelqs and it forces me to do some kegels during to keep the blood trapped which helps EQ. Lube also tends to irritate the skin on my penis and I get a spot somewhere usually which is not too pleasant. I would prefer to use squash jelqs but I need higher erection levels to perform them and I want to avoid lots of adult entertainment. I'm thinking about trying to use the fast squash jelq instead. What do you guys think?
As for the order of the exercises, i tend to pump first and then jelq and repeat. Would it be better to pump second instead?
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I use dry jelqs because it seems to be the general consensus that they improve girth better than wet jelqs and it forces me to do some kegels during to keep the blood trapped which helps EQ. Lube also tends to irritate the skin on my penis and I get a spot somewhere usually which is not too pleasant. I would prefer to use squash jelqs but I need higher erection levels to perform them and I want to avoid lots of adult entertainment. I'm thinking about trying to use the fast squash jelq instead. What do you guys think?